But they will need to get an internship place. If you aren't an Australian/Aussie PR and you graduated from an overseas uni, your chances of getting an internship spot is virtually 0.

So it seems, at least for the moment, getting a medical degree from Monash Malaysia only entitles you to work in Malaysia and no where else.

1. Australia. In practice, can't get a internship so AMC recognized also no use.
2. Singapore don't recognize.
3. UK don't recognize.

Correct?

-Solution: Stop the obsession of practicing abroad, they don't want you, they've got doctors of their own already-

"Hujan Emas di negeri orang, Hujan batu di negeri sendiri, lebih baik di negeri sendiri"

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Jun 11 2009, 09:58 PM

in a nut shell.........yes......

How about applying to aussie to work after internship in Msia?

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Added on June 13, 2009, 2:33 amI do think that the grass is greener overseas. lol

This post has been edited by cygoh9: Jun 13 2009, 02:33 AM

that would be the normal pathway open then, as for anybody else who have an oz qualification and wish to migrate back to oz........

apply for either a pr, or one of the various categories of work visas/employer sponsored visas......

the process is long and expensive, and there is the issue of getting registered with amc with a housemanship done not in oz......they would normally want a cert of good standing from the country of original registration, ie mmc, and mmc will only issue cgs after one has completed the compulsory service, ie 5 years after you graduate.........

it makes a big and important difference......doing your housejob and getting full registration in the country you want to work in.........therefore doing the course in oz makes a lot of difference, as current oz immigration rules stipulates an 18 mths bridging visa for any international student who have done a full time course of at least 2 years onshore in oz.........ie you can stay back and look for jobs after you graduate, for 18 months, allowing you to complete your housemanship........

graduates from monash msia have no such right.........unless you are an oz pr to begin with of course....

Heard an pretty old OZ trained GP doctor sometime last year. He said he keeps getting offer from Aust asking him to go back to Aust and work there.

qualified GP are badly needed in regional australia (ie 'rural')........private headhunters on behalf of regional health authorities goes around looking for GPs (they prefer those with FRACGP/FRNZCGP) to recruit, not just oz qualified, but also um, nus ones........

the catch is, you are contracted to work in regional australia for between 2-3 years in the first instance.......

for young doctors wanting to get into the system, this is also an easier pathway.....look for a job in regional australia, and get contracted for a few years first, before working your way back to the capital cities and possible postgraduate training.........but many people have no patience for this......


p/s i should add that the first visa will be an employer sponsored visa, but within that period, one will usually get enough points (if younger than 45 yo) to start pr applications.........pr application on shore is faster, takes 6-12 mths, in contrast to off shore applications, which can take up to 24 mths.......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 13 2009, 09:21 AM

As i have always asked, how about houseman in NZ? Does that give me a better advantage in applying jobs in oz.

Btw i checked SA medical registration council (or something liddat), they ranked interstate and NZ international med grads at the same level.

Each state has their own priority ranking. Some deem NZ as another 'state', whereas some rank NZ lower in their priority list.

But whichever way the priority goes, remember that hospitals also rank their interns using a combination of marks, referees and of course, university.

This post has been edited by zltan: Jun 13 2009, 12:05 PM

actually, many thinks nz should give up being a separate country, and be another state/territory of australia........they even had a referendum on this some time ago, but the kiwis decided to stay sovereign........

so yes, some states/people in oz actually looks at nz as 'almost' another state of the federation of australia across the 'ditch', as they call the tasman........

i should add that nz CITIZENS (not pr) have automatic right of abode in oz, and accorded pr status automatically, and many kiwis do that........in fact there is nett migration of kiwis out and the population will shrink if nz did not crank up their intake of immigrants........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jun 13 2009, 12:40 PM

There was a tag line some times ago about the vast outflow of Kiwis to Australia.....Will the last person leaving switch off the light?

Perhaps.. but its somebody elses grazing field and the owner prefer his "cattle" over "imported cattle" to graze there...

the more you guys wanted to settle and practice there (UK, AUS, US, SG, etc), the harder they will make it for you guys to do so (PLAB, USMLE, Immigration restrictions, etc)~

so abandon all hope and serve the Malaysian community~



Alright, time for some spot diagnosis:



Identify the organ from which this tissue was obtained and the pathological condition affecting it.
Should be easy enough..~






This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Jun 14 2009, 07:59 PM

Looks like alcoholic hepatitis, but its just a guess. I would hate to be a pathologist looking under microscopes the whole day.

i guess its liver.. with some fatty vacuoles which i duno is what coz aint studying med yet (or maybe not gonna study med also), so i duno...
jus wanna try my luck at guessing (sorry if i offended any1)

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Jun 14 2009, 11:04 PM

fatty liver with minor hepatic necrosis?
i'll just send it to the path lab lol

fatty change of the liver, due to impaired/increased alcohol metabolism. and i think i see some fibrous tissues with regenerating hepatocytes. should be alcoholic liver diseases. hepatitis leads to alcoholic liver cirrhosis.

I suck at pathology slides lol... and to be honest, most medical schools "force" students to know them as they come out in exams. I'm pretty lucky that I didn't have to encounter them too many times.

Everyone is saying alcoholic steatohepatitis, but no one thought about NASH? EtOH isn't the only cause of fatty liver, don't forget that. And it could be a fat patient with steatosis superimposed with other causes of hepatitis.

No history, no specific diagnosis... keep your options open.

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Jun 15 2009, 11:28 AM

the clinical history is very important, and will make a diagnosis in about 70% of the time, without any other tests......

med students love spot diagnosis quizes but without some history, it is much guesswork.......

some background history should be given, if you look at CPC material in reputable journals, they always give a short history first........

yup, therefore we can only make out fatty liver changes. no diagnosis can be make without patient's history, physical examination and investigations.

probably the question should just be, describe the morphology of the slides.