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Health [MEDICAL SCAM] Pusat Rawatan Keraton (Updated), Miracle Surgery Scam!! UPDATED 25/10/15

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post Jun 21 2009, 03:41 AM, updated 6y ago

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LATEST UPDATE LIST

* Major Update (25/10/2015): JOHARI MANSOR THROWN IN PRISON FOR SIX YEARS FOR CHEATING

Refer here: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3754747


* Latest updates can be found at the last pages of this thread.

* Minor Update - Quick Links added to News articles about JOHARI MANSOR for all to see:

- NEWS COMPILATION 1 (CLICK)
- NEWS COMPILATION 2 (CLICK)


*03/1/2011 - - Article and claim from victims taken from Harian Metro and other sources, added. See Here for this update - PENGAKUAN PESAKIT YANG DITIPU (CLICK HERE)

*22/1/2011 - JOHARI MANSOR have been arrested by the police again, he has been sent to prison in Johor. See here - (CLICK HERE)

*29/11/2010 - Updated with another victim's case (SWEETALIA) - Go to the Last page to read or click here: (CLICK HERE)

Introduction


What is Quackery - ? Click here to find out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quackery


[MEDICAL SCAM] Pusat Rawatan Keraton


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I dont know weather I'm a "slowpoke" or not but this fake and misleading "Professor Dato' Dr Raden Johari Mansor" has to be exposed fast for the sake of Malaysians.

This guy performs his miraculous "surgeries" and "diagnosis" that appears to be real to many people but those who are in the modern medical profession knows that this is an obvious scam.



Please review the followings carefully and comment:


His background information



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(Picture of him and his wife parading as SULTAN/ROYALTIES)
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Name: Raden Johari Mansor Al-Haj

- He claims to receive his MBBS from Universitas Islam Sumatera Utara, and is practicing "medicine" and "surgery" in Malaysia.
http://www.uisu.ac.id/fk/index.php (unrecognized by Malaysian Medical Council, MMC)

- He also claims to have received his PhDs (yes.. PhDs in plurals) from several Indonesian Universities, eg: PhD in Sains Politik, PhD in Teori farmacognosi terapi, but neither a Masters in Surgery nor MD in surgery whatsoever and yet he can do all kinds of "surgery" and even do "miraculous Neurosurgery". - See the video clips below~

- Also claims to be a Professor and a Dato'... ???
The following videos are among some of his promotional videos that claims to show "miraculous surgery by divine intervention from God":


Introduction and Biodata of JOHARI MANSOR









His "Brain surgery":




compare it a REAL brain surgery (below):



- things to ponder while watching these videos: anatomy, anesthesia, aseptic technique, respiratory support, sterile condition, surgical equipments, etc~

- In this introduction video, The biodata mentioned that this person has VAST EXPERIENCE in MODERN MEDICAL PRACTICE.


I quote from the biodata:

"Prof. Dato' Dr.Johari Mansor Al-Haj berpengalaman luas di-bidang perubatan moden dan alternatif serta juga pensyarah di-institusi Pengajian Tinggi Republik Indonesia dalam bidang Tauhid Ma'rifatullah"

- if he really has a medical doctor qualification, he FAILS even the basics miserably. A medical doctor MUST NOT allow any risk of contamination into the surgical site, he doesn't even wear a face mask, he even BLEW AIR (along with all the microbes in his mouth) into the operated organ. If he had studied medical microbiology, he wouldn't have done that.

- Look at the surgical equipments, a shaving razor and a pair of paper scissors...


His "surgeries" vol.2:




















- No pain and not even a scar????
- How did he managed to take out a heart without even opening the thorax?? and how the hell did he maintain the blood circulation in the patient with the heart outside of her body?

Blood circulation must be maintained with a heart-lung machine:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heart-lung_machine

- Notice how SMALL the heart is ??

This guy hides behind religion and claims to be able to perform miracles... and those blinded by faith alone without even bothering to study the scientific basis of this fell prey to this scammer...

Compare it with a REAL cardiothoracic and abdominal surgery:








PUSAT RAWATAN KERATON'S WEBSITE: http://pusatrawatankeraton.com/ (for some unexplained reason - this website has been taken down)


Address:

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Pusat Rawatan Keraton
No 34,Jalan Padi Emas 2,Bandar Baru Uda ,
81200 Tampoi, Johor, Malaysia.
Tel : 07-2380214 / 07-2380171


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Pusat Rawatan Keraton
No 20-2, Jalan 14/48A,Sentul raya,
Boulevard Bussiness Centre Kuala Lumpur D1-1,
Plaza bussiness centre,Kuala Lumpur.
Tel: 03-40421328


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Pusat Rawatan dan Kecantikan Keraton,
D1-1,Plaza Tanjung Ara,Kota Kinabalu,Sabah.
Tel: 08-81442016


I Quote from one of his fanatic supporter's blog:

"I received a comment from a Doctor Ahmad Farouk Musa, from the School of Health and Medical Sciences, Monash University lambasting me as one who has a Stone Age mentality for believing in modern day miracles and libeling me as wanting to drag you my readers back to the so called Dark Ages by sharing with you here about these amazing miracle healings being carried out by unconventional Islamic Spiritual Healings of Professor Dato Dr.Raden Johari Mansur of the Pusat Rawatan Keraton, based at Sentul Raya Boulevard, Kuala Lumpur!" - Mahaguru58


"He (the "Prof") says that the charges for operations at the Pusat Rawatan Keraton is RM3000+ for above navel areas of the body and RM2000+ for areas below it."




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Mahaguru58's blog entry was removed by him as of October 2010, but thanks to GOOGLE CACHE, a copy of it is still available online - I guess he now knows that he was wrong but too proud to admit it (click the link below):

Source: http://www.mediafire.com/?mm7bq1ocd595ad1
He disgusts me and he is an insult to modern medical sciences~!






Added on 21/6/2012 - Also - the following are the warnings given by the MINISTRY OF HEALTH (in Malay):


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Additional info, JOHARI MANSOR is also the founder of SENI SILAT GERAK KILAT:






To EVERYONE in MALAYSIA, PLEASE DONT FALL PREY TO THIS CHEAT - GO REPORT HIM TO MMC AND THE POLICE~!! Get this SwiNDLER OUT oF MaLAYSIA~!!

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post Jun 21 2009, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE
- He also claims to have received his PhDs (yes.. PhDs in plurals) from several Indonesian Universities, eg: PhD in Sains Politik, PhD in Teori farmacognosi terapi, but neither a Masters in Surgery nor MD in surgery whatsoever and yet he can do all kinds of "surgery" and even do "miraculous Neurosurgery". - See the video clips below~


Im pretty sure you can skip your masters if youre a first class honours.

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post Jun 21 2009, 10:24 AM

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The microbes he blew into the patients body are divine microbes mah, which is the miracle that help the patient to heal biggrin.gif .
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shaving razors and papper scissors? he practically brings in a pencil case everytime he's going to operate on someone! so what did he use to stitch up the open abdomen? UHU glue? stapler?
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QUOTE(Ilianas_Toy @ Jun 21 2009, 10:22 AM)
Im pretty sure you can skip your masters if youre a first class honours.
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It doesn't work that way for a medical graduate. Masters in Surgery is a professional qualification.


Added on June 21, 2009, 5:08 pm
QUOTE(Ngto @ Jun 21 2009, 10:24 AM)
The microbes he blew into the patients body are divine microbes mah, which is the miracle  that help the patient to heal  biggrin.gif .
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the patients will divinely be dead then~ laugh.gif

anyhow, seriously this fraudster needs to be sent to jail for cheating the sick and dying out of their hard-earned money. Just imagine if it was you who were "treated/swindled" by him... how would you feel?

please spread this news to other ppl. lets hope they wont fall prey to this parasite.


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anyway, i know his methods are ridiculous... but what about the outcomes? if there's a lot of success with no mortality, then it's hard to convince people that he's just a fraud...
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He "successfully" interviewed those patients immediately after his "surgery" for promotional factor. What did they say? No pain? No Scar? Feels a lot better? (ever heard of Placebo effect?)

I am eager to see any of his "treated" cancer patient come forth and be examined by an oncologist and I want the specimens (tumour, fibroids, tissues) that he "apparently" taken out of such patient to be examined by a pathologist to determine if those are even of human origin.

Putting up an elaborate show to impress the common people into believing he actually did a "surgery" on the patient is what a fraudster like him does.

Painless surgery? of course its painless if this fraudster didn't even cut the patient open.

I believe this fraudster cut opened an animal or parts of an animal (goat, cow, etc) that was put on top of the patient during his "surgery" and removed whatever organ that he thinks is "diseased". (ever wonder why he didn't expose a larger area of the incision site to the camera?)

I did made a remark on the size of the "patient's heart" previously, an adult human heart is way bigger than that and it is supposed to be beating if its freshly removed from the thoracic cavity. In order to remove a human heart, the blood circulation MUST be maintained otherwise the body will die.

Since the patient was "anesthetized" by whatever chemical he used on the patient, the patient wont be feeling anything on the surgical site or whatever that was put on the patient's body.

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i've seen a cardiothoracic surgery up-close... and his surgery is nothing like it! no cardiopulmonary bypass, no heart-lung machine, no electric saw, no anesthesia. his surgery is more similar to a butcher slicing off pieces of meat at the market.. some of the few things i noticed in video 2 is that...
1. the makcik's chest is a bit higher than the normal anatomical position... so i'm guessing he put something on top of her chest before covering it with cloth..
2. there's no way u can take out the heart from the chest without using a saw to cut through the ribs...
3. u're right about the heart size too... it is somewhat smaller than a normal human heart...

but the video seems pretty real if u've never seen an actual open heart surgery... he's pretty good, can be the next david copperfield...

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In the first place, have your reported to the authorities already, TS?
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QUOTE(lyochida @ Jun 22 2009, 03:21 AM)
In the first place, have your reported to the authorities already, TS?
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I'm in India now. You guys can go directly the police station, esp those in JB and KL (his pusat rawatans are there). Will you help?

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Ts, was this scam published in the papers?
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QUOTE(ah liew @ Jun 22 2009, 10:17 AM)
Ts, was this scam published in the papers?
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I believe the scam by this person has yet to be published by any newspaper. The Pusat perubatan Cakra Alam Scam has been exposed previously by both newspapers and TV3, this scam is yet to follow:

The Cakra Alam Scam






TV3 Exposes Cakra Alam Scam




The disappearing paper trick (Flash paper/nitrocellulose)

The cakra alam swindler used this trick too,



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this is ridiculous!!
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QUOTE(danny_sp15 @ Jun 21 2009, 09:48 PM)
i've seen a cardiothoracic surgery up-close... and his surgery is nothing like it! no cardiopulmonary bypass, no heart-lung machine, no electric saw, no anesthesia. his surgery is more similar to a butcher slicing off pieces of meat at the market.. some of the few things i noticed in video 2 is that...
1. the makcik's chest is a bit higher than the normal anatomical position... so i'm guessing he put something on top of her chest before covering it with cloth..
2. there's no way u can take out the heart from the chest without using a saw to cut through the ribs...
3. u're right about the heart size too... it is somewhat smaller than a normal human heart...

but the video seems pretty real if u've never seen an actual open heart surgery... he's pretty good, can be the next david copperfield...
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It is very unfortunate that many people were deceived by this "religious man". Any TRUE medical doctor or even a medical student can easily prove that he is a fraud with absolutely no knowledge of human anatomy and surgery.

and another thing, he claims to have received his MBBS (Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery) from Universitas Islam Sumatra, since when Indonesian universities produce MBBS degree? they DONT.

Curse him for using religion to cheat people.

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it make me LOL watching the so call operation.. cut open the patient using shaving blade, cutting away so call tumor using table scissor.. the blood didn even flow, the blood is more like cream like suggesting it is from a dead body is it? opening skull using hammer and blade? lol seeing tis.. then use the blade to dig out the tumor.. even more laughable.. the heart surgery.. so small meh the heart.. a normal human being heart is as big as his/her palm.. yet the s cal doc.. can take it out play with it.. cutting tis and tat... lol
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u can always write an email to raise this issue up to the higher authority.

email add: admin@mmc.gov.
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tis is very serius case
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F***er should be ashamed of himself! He is making the rest of the medical community look bad!
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I found some profound similarities between this scammer's "surgical" techniques to that of "psychic surgery" practitioners/scammers' techniques, with some alterations.

See for yourselves~

Google "Psychic surgery" and watch the following videos and do
a comparison:




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBvdcy_Mi34




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOq1zssejgI




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roCounjrXf8


...and here is a PARODY of psychic surgery by Jim Carrey laugh.gif laugh.gif :



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy53Un2AXpU

*in the above clip, Jim Carrey acts as person dying of cancer and resorted to psychic surgery for a cure. It is taken from the film: MAN ON THE MOON




Added on July 4, 2009, 3:38 am
QUOTE(-Katrina- @ Jun 29 2009, 07:21 PM)
tis is very serius case
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Indeed it is.

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