I got a question here.

Let's say I'm doing my local MBBS in imu.

Would it be possible that when I want to do my post-graduate, i can go to oversea Unis to do it? For example UK or Aus or Sg?

tough question.
Ideally, if you are really good, sg might take u (on a case by case basis).
If u pass ur plab and uk accepted ur application, u can, but it sounds quite impossible with the uk employment issues.
For aus, pass amc examinations, got accepted and u can work there!, but with the increasing number of local grads chances are quite slim, unless u are opting for rural contract...

If I'm really good? You mean after i become a doctor and good performance + good recommendations + good resume?

Yea.Its make sense.Anyway,as long as one is accepted into a medical school which suit their needs then it will be good.haha!

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Added on August 15, 2009, 9:02 amI heard some solid bad news from a senior who had graduated from Moscow,Russia.I am not going to further discuss the bad news as some may feel discourage.I will PM you my reason later.busy with my assignment.

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Added on August 15, 2009, 9:31 amActually,CUCMS medical programme is designated as a "block system". Block system mean every course will become a block for four weeks.Like general anotomy-contain 4 academic weeks.every week we have a weekly assessment (test) for the topic we taught in that week.We will take our final exam at the end of every block or every four weeks but not in the normal semester system will take their final only at the end of semester.

All the students all will be divided into smaller group with maximum ten members or minimum 6 members guided by a mentor.This group named as SCTL group or student centered team learning group.We will not attend lecture for whole weeks.1 weeks will only contain 2 lectures and the rest of the topics will be prepared by SCTL group itself before we present it in class.Here,we have a concept of obtaining the knowledge on your own lectures note will only as a guide to lead you well and achieve the objective.

Beside that,we have a online asses learning system(LMS) or learning management system.The lecturers will upload the note or assignment in this web page then student will go and download for practical class preparation sheet,lecture notes ,timetable,SCTL assignment and etc.ALL the senior here are very helpful and friendly.

In CUCMS you will not only study for no rest but you "must" enjoy your life with some extracurricular activities.As it run a block system,so student will not over relax for their studies.If you do so,you may repeat or worse will be expelled.One of my group member is from the senior batch and repeat his first year now.We also have some clinical exposure in pre-clinical year that will lead us to have a correct thinking and concept of being a medical professional later on.

In the beginning few block we will taught in separated subjects like anatomy,physiology,microbiology,biochemistry and etc.When it come to second sem onward all all block will run in system like cardiovascular sytem,musculoskeletal system and etc.Its good to teach separated subjects before enter system as this make strengthen our basic knowledge toward basic medical sciences.

Our faculty currently got 14 cadaver for our practical purposes.So,quite good to study here la................

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Added on August 15, 2009, 10:59 amCan anyone here tell me more about:
-What is meningomyelocoele?

-Describe the defect in this condition

This post has been edited by MBBS siang: Aug 15 2009, 10:59 AM

yeah. from what i've heard the imu local trend was to finish 5 years here, study like mad for your uslme papers and get accepted in the states to do your resident training followed by your specialization over there. its tough work, cause uslme ain't easy and its tough competition, apparently the best specialization areas are usually reserved for the local crew, but no one can discriminate talent and skill. all the best. you're planning on joining imu in 2010?

USLME for the states. What about other countries? Singapore? Australia?


I'm joining imu in one week time

Singapore according to them they wont take imu students in. they gave a talk over at imu last year. they only want those whom have twinned off overseas.

australia there is an exam, alot of doctors from india take it. forgot the name though.

my bad its supposed to be USMLE united states medical licensing exam

and you'll come to know more bout usmle cause its an exam needed by students whom further their education to thomas jefferson uni in the states.

oh nice to meet you. my batch will be orientating your batch, but i'm not very involved in all the orientation nonsense. i think its boring.

anyhow, 5 years is a long time alot of post grad options will change. you're from a-levels? how were your results.

ooh..hello senior. hahaha. Are you going to do PMS or local then?

Yeap. A-levels. I got straight 4A's. So u mean it's almost impossible for me to do my post-grad in other countries without going through certain exams which prove my qualification?

Congrats on ur A-levels results =)
You are quite right, except sg.
U take AMC for aussie, NZREX for new zealand, PLAB for UK, USMLE for US. And IMO the best chance that you can get is the USMLE and NZREX.
Sg may accept u on a case by case basis, but officially they do not take in the local imu grads.
and welcome to imu xD lol

This post has been edited by cygoh9: Aug 15 2009, 03:42 PM

I'm asking for my colleagues in some local medskols on what do you mean by "case by case basis"
Thanks

this is what i gathered from hearsay from seniors, as well as the SINGHEALTH ppl when they came to UoA to tarik ppl to sg.
If you are from a medschool that's not recognized by SG officially, you can still apply for a job in sg, with very good referrals, cv, etc etc, but of course you cannot do housemanship over there. They may or may not accept you, depending on a case by case basis.

And apparently sg has no discrimination once they sign you in, and they hardly terminate any contract.

I think you know it better. (coz i think ur more senior lol)

This post has been edited by cygoh9: Aug 15 2009, 04:31 PM

i'm in pms though. congrats i take it you did cambridge board cause the london board results is only coming out later next week!!

well hope your stay in imu is a good one. and will see you next next monday. we have exam later that friday. but knowing how enthusiastic my batch is about orientation they'll have a good time orientating you people in.

yheap. you need an external exam some how. i suggest you apply for some scholarships, or nus or something like that if you're not interested in working in malaysia. cause only a handful of students make it from seremban to america. its not easy, and of course after studying for 5 years, you'd wanna come out and work but instead you're studying just to pass another set of exams again just to work overseas.

dont know if monash malaysia allows you to work in aust. haven't read bout that lately.

being from nus, i'm not sure how the system works for un recognised foreign graduates.

Btw, thx for ur info as I think it might help my friends in local medskols.

How many of them made it? it can be really motivating if it's a handful of them!

where are u opting for pms btw?

dont know the real number. but from what i heard there are 2 or 3 of them in mayo clinic!!

Yeap. I took the cambridge board. Actually im worried about post-grad in later years after i got my degree. Because I'd heard that post-grad in govern Unis are not easy to get in because of the quotas. Some more, i would one day to have an oversea Uni qualification, so im thinking about doing my post-grad in oversea Uni in the future.

I heard about MRCP as a qualification in UK to do their specialist programme. Is it another exam to enroll in their post-grad?

Looks like you're enjoying your course... good on you.

Meningomyelocoele aka spina bifida cystica... congenital malformation of the vertebrae and spinal cord due to defective neural tube folding, resulting in a protrusion of spinal cord and its surrounding meninges from the patient's back. Depending on the level of the defect, the MMcoele can cause focal neurological defects (eg loss of sensation, paralysis) to the levels below, which commonly are the lower limbs and/or bladder, bowel control. The exposed cord is also at risk of trauma and ulcerations.

Wiki and google have more specific details, and so does your text books... particularly paediatric surgery books.

Not to pour cold water over your achievements, but the truth is that most of the people who manage to enter med school will be around your level, if not better. Almost everyone else in your batch would be straight As students as well. My regrets if it sounds discouraging but it's the truth. Straight As don't mean anything except a passport to enter uni.

It's definitely a good thing if your results are good enough to enter med school, but it's a freaking long journey just to get a basic MBBS and anything could happen in between. Once you get your MBBS it's another matter as work performance and references will speak louder than your CGPA in uni.

If you wish to pursue any post-grad training in overseas, under your circumstances it would be best to take the PMS route and stay there after graduation to get a higher chance. It's still possible to go overseas with a local degree by undertaking qualification exams, but the competition would be much tougher plus there might be limited positions available as well. Not forgetting the different working culture and healthcare system that you will have to adapt to.

Good luck.... and seriously, enjoy your pre-med years

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Aug 15 2009, 08:36 PM

it would be something like what happened to um/ukm grads before official recognition by smc recently....for more than 20 years, um/ukm graduates have been taken into spore on a case by case basis.............

Anyone know hows the path like to be a paeds neuro after med school? Qualification, where to study, years of study and cost of study?

I think i know u =), my long-lost primary mate lol.

What i would guess is u become a paeds registrar after the housemanship, pass all ur exit exams, then become a fellow in paeds neuro for 6months/1 year. I dont think there's any cost for training at all, and the location depends on where u are posted to when u are working.

i'm just guessing, correct me i'm wrong.