i stand by what i said.......there are lots of students who excelled in school, with good understanding of what is taught......from this group, there are enough potential med students to choose from......

Actually medicine is very different..u can't comment on it unless u in it..ur school achievement is nothing and can't reflect anything once u take this course..it's just how u adapt with it..

trust me only 10% of what u learned in school is being using back..the rest are rubbish...

you are not understanding me.......i am NOT talking about the ability to remember and understand the facts you learn in school.......in the hope that it will help you in med school or future life.......

i am talking about the ability to cope, adapt, and excel in school.......

that quality you will bring with you, whether in school, med school and future working life......

therefore, anyone who says he/she had problems coping with sec school, has no business in med school....

that's true, ur ability in various aspects reflected in ur pre-U results is the main thing, and it's less on the knowledge u had in scoring well ur pre-U test.

but nowadays, as long as one has the money, he can be a doctor....so what's with this debate?

won't change a thing, useless doctors are graduating anyway...

i state my opinion, and it is an opinion shared by many countries......that fact that this country has a very messed up doctor training system does not distract from the correctness of that opinion....it just highlight how f***up we are..........

it can be changed if there is political will......there isn't......

I think the only problem is attitude of our doctors...some Dr dont even have an eye contact when treating patient...sigh

Are u sure we have very messed up doctor training system??Dont just make an assumption please...FYI local graduates is hard to pass compared to overseas one..

do you know many graduates from overseas perform badly in their housemanship year

the messed up selection process applies equally to ipta, ipts and several foreign countries with a history of taking in any student as long as you can pay..... that is what edge85 is referring to.....

I thought only 4 flat student can enter local medicine??

But overseas...2.5 pointer also can enter..even spm fail also can once i heard damn seems like money can buy anything..

haha i think the poster sorta said he/shes able to understand it back in sec school but cant get it when he/she has to relearn it in 2nd year med....

i think all these comments are unnecessary.... i mean no one understands everything in the world do they? lotsa so called 'theory' in science for example are hypotheses and its like just a probable explanation for sth rather than an exact understanding of the mechanism behind it....

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Added on October 8, 2008, 1:25 amreally?!?! which med skool is that?! but i do hear some eastern european med skool are like that...not sure...but mayb those guys got smart and work hard after SPM and did well in medskool entry exams?

This post has been edited by bhypp: Oct 8 2008, 01:25 AM

u mean IPTA?
no
not necessarily
UiTM even accept students with 3.6 from matrik

This post has been edited by chika138: Oct 8 2008, 01:27 AM

CSMU (Crimea State Med.Uni) did that... they even accepted art stream SPM students into their program.
Malaysian Medical Council got rid of that Uni from the recognized Uni list. (Source: CSMU Issue)

Good Riddance.

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Oct 8 2008, 01:52 AM

want to ask for u guys opinion..i'm currently now studying in Moscow Medical Academy(russia)...it's been only two weeks since i've been here but i've already missed a few classes which includes anatomy...worse thing is tat they are having exam for anatomy next week..i haven't been able to get used to the weather and all the travelling from hostel to the classes(1hr20min++)..now i'm having thoughts of going back to m'sia to study...it's like body is here but mind's not...what should i do??advise pls..thanks for anyone who would kindly help...i'm confused now

well i think u should get some help! do u hav any Msian friends over there? maybe getting along, hanging out with them will help...like u guys can get together discuss things talk about things besides study stuffs and how everyones coping and etc.....

and anatomy is more like u learn with books, computer software and etc....well tahts for my case lar....my uni is one of those so called neo-med skool who are moving away from the old skool anatomy stuff and we sorta teach each other in tutorials under supervision of a tutor....well for me its just another scam by the uni to save money coz teaching it old skool with dissections and cadavers and proper tutors with small groups of students is very expensive

If you have the money, time and results feel free to enroll at another UNI, I have seen a few cases of this happening in my Uni, all from russian medical schools coming in

yea..i knw that i'm not able to adapt to the life here...but i'm still trying..if can't i oso duno wad to do ad..wad kind of uni could accept me...all i have is a foundation cert wif 3.7CGPA..i really duno wad to do right now..

You should have taken a levels. There are some retaking a levels to enter to better UNIs

yea..now i've regretted that i chose this option..looks like there's nothing tat can be done..

hey dude...which foundation program did u do?? well seems like u are not interested in MED i the 1st place from the sound of it...was it forced onto u by u know the usual Asian parents crap....coz doing MED when ur not interested in it is very very tough....

long hours, lotsa commitment and etc....u can only get thru if thats what u really wanna do and interested...but if it IS ur choice...i think the learning bit shouldn't be a prob....if u can get into med skool that means u probably wont have much trouble coping academically.....but if its a situation like what some others has said b4...like poor QC in student intake in some dodgy med skool....those med skool wouldnt be taht academically demanding anyway since its a dodgy one....

problem settling in a foreign country is pretty common...alll you can do is to ind some support...find out if theres any Msian seniors who can give you some advice...or if theres any coursemates who are staying in that same hostel, so that u can sorta travel to uni together and so on....

i did foundation in science..got a 3.7CGPA...initially i wanted to go overseas to pursue my studies..i thought to myself the faster the better..but seems like now i realise i'm still not ready yet..my parents are offering me an alternative route to go back m'sia...i wanna do medicine back at home country but in order to do so i think i need to start all over again rite??