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post Feb 23 2008, 05:01 AM

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THe seanlimys posting was me.

Please refer here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/435069/+160

It is stated (not only here but some other place which I cannot currently recall) that if you failed to enter that university, you cannot backdoor through IMU.

I am starting semester 1 this monday too. I may not be able to log in for the next few weeks as there could be no internet connection in the condo.
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post Mar 13 2008, 10:47 PM

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QUOTE(PetroToxin @ Mar 13 2008, 07:34 PM)
Hello, I am currently in Form 5 Pure Science Stream. Aspiring to be a Doctor or a Surgeon one day.

My question is what is the recommended path to take?

1) STPM > Local University
2) A-Levels or equivalent > IMU
3) Foundation > University
STPM seems to be the most versatile as it can be used to enter both local or private institutes.
While foundation can only be used at the same university only.

The most expensive path must be number 2. But is it worth it?
Please enlighten me further about the pros and cons.
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Never get into STPM if you don't have the confidence to get straight As. It is very hard. SAM is very easy. In IMU, there are quite a number of SAM students which can got over 95%. The only disadvantage in SAM is they learn lesser in depth and cover less topics than STPM, you will face difficulties during semester 1. But at least you have a chance to enter the uni, failing afterwards is a different story. Many stpm students find it hard to get in because they always miss by a little bit. A levels is a little bit easier than stpm (just found out) as they don't need as much memorising as stpm. There is no disadvantage for A levels as it is recognised everywhere where stpm is recognised except IPTA. And the grades to enter IMU for A levels is BBC.
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post Mar 14 2008, 04:16 PM

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1)Only UM and UKM is recognised worldwide.
2) You need to take the local examination of that country
3) Definitely, many specialist are USM, UKM etc graduates

Neuro, you need to really study hard and long. Roughly takes 20 years from the day you start your MBBS course. Malaysia is in need of Oncologist, there are only 6 in Malaysia, and Singapore is in need of Internal Medicine, so they pay extra if you specialise in that field.
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post Mar 21 2008, 12:17 AM

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Indonesia Unis only care about money not results. My friend who passed up a blank paper for all his stpm subjects also got into Indonesia for Medicine (University Sriwijaya) and his spm was also just as bad.
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post Apr 17 2008, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(sanesaint @ Apr 16 2008, 10:31 PM)
hey there, just wanted to ask, does anyone know the when's the intake for medical students at monash malaysia and nus? and are there any imu students here whu got into imu thru MUFY? and among this 3 unis, wic 1 is the best? i noe all 3 are good, but the quality of lecturers and the atmosphere differ from place to place. moreover, i heard tht imu students study all the time and have tests every two weeks, wic is totally effed up. and is there any difference between studying at monash malaysia and monash oz other than the fees and cost of living?

and apart from imu and monash, what other good local medical unis are there?
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IMU facilities are quite lousy if compared to the rest. Unless you are going for twinning no use going to IMU. So far in Sem1 there is no such test every 2 weeks. Maybe you meant PBL. IMU students study all the times because the lecturers don't really teach, you are left to fend for yourself. Certain batches of IMU students are a joke, they come from the weirdest qualifications and have a hard time catching up even in Sem 1 itself. BTW IMU preference is A-levels > STPM > other qualification > SAM. Means A levels you just need BBC you can enter, while SAM even though the requirement is low, the cut off is not really at 85% unless you are a JPA/MARA scholar. Anyway some of the IMU students here would know that, for one of the batch, around 100 people who got the offer declined it, and IMU ended up calling up all those who did not pass the interview / did not get selected in the first round to give them an offer. This is just to give you an overall view of IMU. Not badmouthing them, its just the truth.
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post Apr 17 2008, 08:30 PM

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To enter NUS it depends more on your interview just like any other top universities in the world. So far I heard from my uncle, cambridge interview for medical student, they use their law professors to interview them.
If you want any local medical school, I would suggest you take a look at AIMST, UCSI and CUCMS as the fees are cheaper than IMU and the facilities are definitely better, IMU is just overhyped, their local programme is nothing.
From what I heard CUCMS has top lecturers in the country even though their clinical schools are a bit bad (army hospitals) because they just started out.
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post Apr 23 2008, 11:07 AM

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It also depends on the intake. Certain intakes, not enough students so they will accept you even though you fail your interview. Happened to ME108 batch at IMU (around 100 people rejected their offer). Remember if you did not get accepted, always call them up again, if many people reject their offer, you can get a place even though you screwed your interview. I also know some JPA students whose result only scrape through TER 88-90 and they had their interview 1 week before the registration day, this tuesday interview, next monday registration.
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post Apr 24 2008, 01:49 AM

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I heard m107 50 students failed. A few of them retaking sem1 again in ME108, they just love to skip classes, telling other people to sign for them during compulsory classes and comes in late for PBL. The rest got kicked out. Also I think some of the SAM students are a joke, they cant even do basic maths or chemistry. BTW I am not in IMU.


Added on April 24, 2008, 1:50 amLOL and btw, do you happen to know shi hoay, barath,whei ying.sin ying, keet jean (donno about this spelling) and lay queen? If yes tell them I wish them good luck for the exams.

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post Apr 25 2008, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(chika138 @ Apr 24 2008, 12:07 PM)
u from taylors is it? u in monash now?
ya i noe some of them, not really close though
ur name is lin keong is it? ok la i'll pass them the wish
n ya some of the m107 students are just a joke
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I was in IMU with conditional offer, did not meet i so got kicked out lol, sad story.
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post Apr 30 2008, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(tinsze @ Apr 29 2008, 10:57 AM)
thx ... so means really oni cost 10000 or arou d that oni lar..? whoa.. i think i'm goin to f6... siao.. AIMST cost aorund 210K.... compare to 10 K... rclxub.gif
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If you want to go to AIMST, don't ever go to form 6. Go for their foundation, it is easier than stpm, lower entry requirement and given preference to enter their Medical program. STPM is way harder than any exams you can ever see. I am one of those that miss their requirement with 1 A and 3 Bs given they want 3 B+ but only 2.5CGPA for their foundation. My friends who met the requirement were told by the admissions that their chances to enter is extremely slim because there are over 100 people in the waiting list from their foundation.

QUOTE(guanteck @ Apr 29 2008, 03:33 PM)
Hi, its been 1 week since my interview with IMU and i still haven't receive any letter from IMU.  cry.gif I have frens who had received their letters just 1 week after their interviews.  In fact there are 3 of them. So, I called up and asked. They said that there isn't any decision made regarding my application yet. Is this normal? I've this weird feeling that i am not getting the offer from IMU.  cry.gif

I think i must have done pretty badly in my interview because my results are quite good. Are the interviewers the one who decide whether a person to be accepted in IMU?

Anyone here that had their interview on 22nd of April receive the letter?

What should i do now?  cry.gif
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As long as the closing date still not here, don't worry, I know people who got in 2 weeks late for ME108 batch.

For those who don't have any bio basic, expect to spend 4-5 hours daily trying to catch up, and it really depends on people (example, memorising the krebs cycle,12 cranial nerves is not easy, some people take days, some take minutes, I took 10 minutes or so as it was just a revision of STPM bio), I was in IMU, during lectures I could remember every single word the lecturer said even when I was explaining some stuff to another friend, while my friend who told everyone not to talk to him during lectures (paying 100% concentration), couldn't remember a thing after the lecture. Maybe STPM really gave me some good training in listening and memorising skills. I find singaporean students better to mix with as they could also understand the lectures easily compared to those others who I would classify kiasu like hell (skipping all activities just to study at the library for 5 hours) and coming out with virtually nothing. Another thing is, it is very easy to ace the IMU interview, when they ask you why you want to become a doctor, give them the saddest story you can ever make up, most of the ME108 students I ask gave this type of answers. This is not boasting its a fact.
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post Apr 30 2008, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(wgy589 @ Apr 30 2008, 01:12 PM)
har, we learnt 12 cranial nerves in STPM meh? damn scary leh, i never learn that b4.


Added on April 30, 2008, 1:14 pmand i'm sure no 1 can understand 12 cranial nerves without doing head and neck anatomy b4 lor
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The stpm I commenting on krebs cycle. Cranial nerves memorising is quite easy because in STPM you are already trained to memorise, so any memorising stuff, you can do it just by looking through a few times
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post Apr 30 2008, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(guanteck @ Apr 30 2008, 04:50 PM)
Yea, my fren told me that his is a conditional offer and the minimum requirement is BBC. But, they will refund u? I thought they won't? I heard from my friend that u even have to meet a lawyer to make a vow that u will not attempt to ask for the refund if u've failed to make the grades.  shocking.gif

Wow June? That's really late. Actually, frankly, i do not have any back up plan if i din get the offer from IMU. So, i guess i've to start thinking of one now, just in case i dun get the offer? What would u guys recommend? It seems that there are quite little option to pick up a twinning medicine course here, in Malaysia.

I've thought of Monash but it seems that there's only a 5 year local course there right?

I really hope that i will get the IMU offer.  sad.gif
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They will refund you but not 100%. Don't listen to any bullshit. I got back 90% of my fees. The requirement for STPM is 3 B+. Yes there are plenty of A levels BBC students in IMU, if you don't ask them, they also won't bother to tell you. The main thing is, you could get in with BBC, but can you survive the 5 years? Entry does not guarantee a degree or pass. Some people fail in the final year some in the first year. Don't compare with Indo and Russia or whichever country that you can buy your degree, at least if you take IMU twinning the PMS won't do all these bullshit
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post Jun 5 2008, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(riverslee @ Jun 5 2008, 02:36 AM)
hey guys, this may seem to be out of the blue question , but i am a spm student this year and I'm doing well in biology chemistry physics and also general science(extra subject) but not in additional mathematics. Will this affect my future and dreams of becoming a doctor. Besides that, is additional mathematics necessary for medical course. Thank you
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It will affect your dreams because

1) Certain uni needs you to pass 5 science subject in form 5, including add maths
2) Not having foundation in add maths will make life extremely difficult in Pre-U especially STPM. Teachers will not go back to basics, they will just teach like a bullet train.
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post Jun 12 2008, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(haya @ Jun 12 2008, 09:48 AM)
jasperseng claims to be from UCSI. Excuse my ignorance, but what is the difference between a MBBS and a MD that UCSI offers?

Through it worries me that UCSI is not in the First nor Second Schedule of the Medical Act 1971, while IMU, Manipal, AIMST, even Perak College of Medicine (we have that?!) is on the list.

Note however, a listing in the Medical Act is not a indicator of the quality of the medical school. Interestingly, we'll even recognise gradutes from University of Khartoum, University of Basrah, Dhaka Medical College, amongst others!

Anyone up for applying for the MBBS of Baghdad University? shocking.gif

References: http://www.agc.gov.my/agc/oth/Akta/Vol.%201/Act%2050.pdf
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UCSI is not on the list yet because the first batch of medical students have not graduated. Ithink they will graduate somewhere in september and also the status will be upgraded to university. No difference except shorter preclinical and longer clinical years. It is the same as UKM and USM where they offer MD. THe MD is based on US curricular where 2 years is supposed to be pre-clinical and 2 years clinical. But to meet local requirements they extend it to 3 years making a total of 5. FYI most medical schools in Indonesia offer only 4 years program and 1 year doing housemanship over there.

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post Jun 12 2008, 02:24 PM

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Anyway to get a real MD from any UK medical school you need to study for 7 years.
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LOL I think the system is also the same in Singapore.
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post Aug 16 2008, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(csrulez @ Aug 16 2008, 12:42 AM)
Yup, very true saying indeed. That was what i was told by the MMC guys during their accredition tour to our university. The problem is some hospitals such as the Alor Setar General Hospital's policy does not really allowed medical students to do their procedures compared to UM, UKM and USM who has their own hospitals. That professor jokingly asked us to suggest to our Uni to build our own hospitals as they have not been such application sent to MMC before. LOL. We have a dental hospital here though, not the medical hosp.
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FYI, another university has submitted the application to build its own hospital and its already in building progress.
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post Aug 16 2008, 04:07 PM

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AFAIK UCSI is going to build (or already building) their own hospital in Spring Hill, seremban its supposed to have 500 beds capacity. Also there are other insider info that are not supposed to be leak out and only few people know.
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post Aug 20 2008, 01:42 AM

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So fun.. having notes to study, in my uni no notes are given, sad sad
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post Sep 4 2008, 02:27 PM

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Singapore has too many brilliant students. You cant expect them to accommodate all into NUS. I know a few people who are wanting to work in Singapore after graduating from OZ unis and IMU-PMS. In fact NHG is always having their forum at IMU for PMS students to ask questions etc.

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