that depends on where you did your foundation......if it were done at a reputable uni or college like monash, swinburne etc, it is usually recognised by other ipts, and .....and for direct entry to oz unis......

if it were the 'foundation' conducted by some agencies for feeding into russian med schools, nobody recognises these........in which case, might as well come back, and do a REAL pre-u programme.......

yea..my foundations were conducted by agencies...that's why i'm finding it difficult...if i were to do a pre-u programme..say SAM..would it be better? but i would have wasted a yr..is it worthy??of course i dun really care about getting laughed by ppl for giving up here..but i juz want to know is it suitable for me to start all over again??

It's only 1st year of pre-clinicals, it's probably basic sciences anyway... so to be honest you don't lose that much compared to if you stop at say 4th or 5th year.

Whether SAM is worthy or not depends on yourself, and the path you choose to go after that... There are various alternatives for private medical institutions available in M'sia so as long as you have the desire and motivation (and sadly, money) you'll be fine.

Adjustment disorder is quite common for first year medical students particularly if you're studying overseas, as a lot of us didn't really know what's in store for years to come. Some eventually learn to love it, some become indifferent, some totally loathe it and leave; I guess you'll have to make the choice for yourself. Either stick your head in the mud and crawl through it, or make the change quickly. A swift cut is better than continue to muck around.

Cheers.

This post has been edited by StarGhazzer: Oct 9 2008, 09:19 PM

thanks alot all for helping..i guess now i'll have to make a choice that is best for me..APPRECIATE ALL UR HELP!

Medicine is a long course. extra 1 year doesnt matter much , in fact I know people who decided to take medicine at 25 years old

i think i'll be goin back to malaysia to restart the whole process again...to test myself in college lvl to really know whether i am fit for study in medicine..but not so soon i guess..thx everyone

whuts?! surgeon in the making i see!!

well if its med that ur interested in then its the coping bit that ur struggling with...but if u already made up ur mind of rebooting ur whole med skool thingie....i think its better to do A levels as it sorta gives u the widest range of med skools to choose from....those australian year12 stuff isnt that good tho its shorter, u might find difficulties further down the track when u wanna apply for non-aussie unis.....

times is not a big factor as medical training itself takes forever....everyone will only start to be doctors when they are in their 30's.....

Actually not that interested in chopping people up at the moment, but who knows what will happen in the future?

A-levels yeah... it probably can bring one to more places overseas compared to SAM yet at the end of the day it depends on one's preferred destination and also other factors like accessibility/affordability/willingness to endure the extra 1/2 a year... I guess the choices for medical education in M'sia and overseas are abundant and it's not necessarily hard to get in. To survive it (with an intact sanity ) is another matter though.

arh...my parents seems like they dun wan me to go back..they want me to continue my studies here..what can i do??when i told them i wanted to restart the whole process they say i shud forget about medicine and start thinking of other courses such as engineering..i think it's because they can't afford to send me other places..how much will be totol cost if i do study at IMU??help is needed pls..i've gotta sort this out..anyways..i've got 2months until the next intake of pre-u studies..whether do i go anot..i don't really know now

Total cost at IMU for local should be around RM360K excluding stay, pocket money food etc

honestly, with financial constraints, u shld really stay back and try to finish the course.
it's just the beginning and u r very fresh to the environment, but things might change later on, and u might enjoy staying in russia.
futhermore, u shld have expected all these when u enrolled in the foundation course offered by the agency, and be responsible for ur own decision,

well one of my batchmate in IMU is 50 yo

I actually find it funny for a doctor of the older generation of UM graduates to use the word 'f***' in a forum which is meant for intelligent discussion. I guess now i know why UM dropped out from the top 200 Unis in the world.

Anyway, are you suggesting that you have been one of the toppers throughout your secondary school years? Didn't even fumble once?

There's no doubt that medical students should be selected from a pool of toppers. However, given the lousy education system and the increasing number of incompetent teachers nowadays, it's really hard for the students to totally grasp the all subjects being taught in school well.

As long as a student do well in Pre-U, then he/she can be qualified to enter medical course. I believe pre-U result is the most important element in securing a seat in med schools.

This post has been edited by hypermax: Oct 11 2008, 11:21 AM

this is what i'm planning to do actually, but i don't know why i still feel like restarting the whole process to get into med school, it seems like i came here without too much of a hassle..that's y i want to know whether am i really suitable for this course. obviously if i go back and re-do the whole process i will disappoint my parents because i gave up. If i go back and still want to pursue medicine, my parents say they can only afford to send me locally.so right now, i don't really know what to do anymore. Can anyone kindly giv their advise??PLS!

i think if that is the case, doing you studies locally is better than doing it in russia....i would rank russia lower than the established ipts med schools like imu/aimst/mmmc/monash.......

i think it's best to ask some local medskols eg. Manipal, aimst... to know whether they accept ur foundation course. go personally to the medskols, talk to the boss there, and try to persuade them that u got the money to pay them. afterall, they r profit based.

if they do accept u, then u can skip another pre U course. save time and money, futhermore, local medicine is 5 years. so save more time. so there's no reason why u shld't quit.

but if really they dun accept u, only then u can start to consider whether to quit.

For MMMC, it's no longer that simple, as it has acquired contract with JPA. Therefore, JPA students will be given priority. Many students with A levels 3 As and SAM > 93 cannot enter. Dun believe me, just give MMMC a call or ask those who have applied for MMMC.

After a private med school is established, it tends to increase it's entry requirement in order to push the quality of its graduates, so that it can become more famous which translates into more cash flow.

As for AIMST, you need to take its own foundation course in order to do medicine. Once you have met the minimum requirement set by AIMST, you will be offered a place in Medicine. However, the waiting list is very long as many have successfully met the requirement. According to czrulez, AIMST's foundation in quite simple. You can actually give it a try if you can afford to wait.

This post has been edited by hypermax: Oct 11 2008, 03:14 PM

FYi this year september intake MMMC my friend got in with B+ B+ B- in stpm. Dont believe what they said when you ask them things, even IMu said BBC hard to enter but I got friends entering with BBC. The thing is you apply then go for the interview, accept or not is later. The people you talk to when you ask about admissions are not the ones making decisions

JPA contract is crap, IMU also has JPA contract and they just allow the JPA students to come in without proper interview(interview 3 days before intake date, tell me it was serious?) and borderline results

About AIMST waiting list also, don't believe what they tell you, all the people I know that applied for aimst this year got an offer but because the offer came too late they already enrolled off somewhere.

This post has been edited by linkeong: Oct 11 2008, 03:20 PM

even if i quit, and do pre-u courses again..i'll graduate the same time..but rite now i need to find an answer..but everytime i tell my parents about it..my mom will indirectly want me to stay and continue..like i said, if my heart is not here how can i concentrate..I know by doing this will disappoint them but wad can i do now??i dun mind being laughed by my family members because i really wnt to know what's rite for me..damn confused!!!

BTW if aimst tell you about waiting list, the person is trying to tell you to pay him some money to guarantee a place. It happens, I know a doctor here that can guarantee you a place in aimst but you need to pay him. If you are in taiping, you can ask around, you would definitely hear about this doctor