Bro, just a friendly reminder, be really careful when you say such things. Unless you have concrete proof, i would advise you from making such statement.

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Added on October 11, 2008, 3:39 pmOh really, that's weird. I personally know some people who got really good grades in A level and SAM but got rejected. Your friend has cable ar? Mind to tell me your friend's name?

And last time when i applied for IMU-PMS (2004 1st intake), no one below SAM 93 and A level AAB has been accepted.

This post has been edited by hypermax: Oct 11 2008, 03:43 PM

wonder anyone heard of lincoln college b4..i did my foundations there..regretted quitting my SAM

that may or may not be true.....but the mere fact such allegations can be made just goes to show how f**** up the whole med school selection process is.......

btw, expletives is not so much a reflection on the quality of education, nor calibre of a person, but a measure of the exasperation of a human being......

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Added on October 11, 2008, 5:03 pmnever heard of it, but a google drew up their website....a few comments......

they list a few unheard of 'partner universities' in various places, but i can't find how these places are 'partnering' with the college....

diploma courses only offered.....

very low intake requirements.......eg for dip pharmacy, only 3 credits in spm, and only passes wanted in english!!!!!

i wouldn't have touched it with a 10 foot pole........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 11 2008, 05:03 PM

yea..but now since i'm here already..i made a deal with my parents..i'm going to try for a month..i won't go back without trying..by then they shud understand me if i cannot make it..1month..time flies..it'd be fast..thx for all ur help!

I am not sure if my friend has any cable. His father is a kasturba mc graduate 30 years ago. He applied for Gajah Mada Uni and also MMMC he got both the offer but he chose MMMC.

Another friend went to RPMC after all the trouble of getting a place in AIMST.

Anyway IMU student enrollment is getting lesser and lesser with so many other universities popping up (msu, and forgot wats the others) so don't be surprised if they relax the intake requirement. Go check out this year's batch or maybe you could check out next year's batch. When my friend applied for IMU, they told him if you do not have straight As your chance of acceptance is very low, but eventually he applied and got the offer which came too late and he ended up in UCSI.

IMU ME108 I found some with 90% on Ausmat result and there are some even lower. Even all Bs from A levels.

i was wondering..is it worth it if i do quit and go back and restart??the money and the time..Before this, i never thought really properly before going to russia and pursue my studies..heck..i even quit SAM just to do this..but right now i'm having 2nd thoughts already..Is it good to go back??or just sulk it up and finish it here..I'm not sure whether i can make it here..neither back home..But i just cannot cope with the education system here..I'm well aware if i leave russia now i'll never go overseas anymore..i might be fine with tat..Can anybody giv me some ideas?? Rite now my mind's confused..heck my university is still accepting new batch of ppl even it's 2weeks after the intake..what should i do now!!i just want to find an answer whether do i have the passion to do this

har, izzit the same person here?

hmmm well if u ask me that depends alot on what Russian uni ur in now....their top few med skools, are pretty renowned and are quite good but there are a whole lot of crap med skools over there as well....if ur from the top skools, i think its better to learn now to cope coz coming back to ipts would be sorta like a downgrade....

anywya i usually try my best not to judge people but from the sound of ur posts....i sorta feel like ur not committed enough when u 1st decided to follow the path to russia.....and are u gonna be just as sure that ur gonna do fine when u got back to msia and restart the whole thing again?? and from the sound of it.....u said u sorta wanna try to give 1 more month of trial at russia, see if u can cope or not but sounds like uve pretty much made up ur mind, u cant cope....mayb even not try to cope and just get it on with that 1 more month so that u can tick the box, saying that uve tried ur best and still cant cope and now u HAVE to return to msia.....

im not too sure but as ive said before the whole medical profession thingie need HUGE commitments and im not too sure even if u can cope with the demands of clinical years and ur internship years if u already find it so difficult to cope in the 1st year of med in a foreign land...my take in ur situation is....u gotta decide...stick to ur decision and cut the whinging....

ok thanks..appreciate it..yea i admit it..i can't cope and i'm not really commited to do it yet..that's y i wanna know for myself..i'm going back to malaysia...and see whether do i have what it takes to do medicine course..thx!

This post has been edited by diegoadriadona: Oct 11 2008, 10:26 PM

Lincoln college, i've heard of it. I've a friend whom has done his AIMST foundation but could not obtain the minimum requirement to enter the medical programme here in AIMST. Then, he went for this "speedy" foundation in Lincoln who offers a top-up to his foundation marks. 3 months later, he's already in Russia doing his MD programme. Does a college offering a "top-up" to your pre-u programme sounds reliable? I feel it's really ridiculous to offer such pathway, especially for those who're gonna read medicine.

As for linkeong, yup AIMST do have a long waiting list of external students to be enrolled into medicine. However, this means that they will only be taken in for the next intake which will make them wait for a year. Priority is given to mostly their own foundation students. As for the current intake, there are 130 of them. 60 consisting of external students. There's no such thing as buying a place from a doctor in taiping? Please do not make your statement without any relevant proof. I was wondering, what has this doctor in taiping gonna do with AIMST? Our lecturer? Or registrar?

As you have said it yourself, it was, a mere allegation, without any concrete proof. So how does it show how "f***" up the med school selection process is?

Also, Expletive is not appropriate in a forum meant for intelligent discussion, and i guess you are well aware of that. You dun have to be vulgar just because things dun go your way. I believe attitude is one of the criteria for med school selection. Thus, it reflects that there's a failure in the selection of students in UM, thus the drop in quality.

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Added on October 12, 2008, 1:32 amWell, from my personal experience, Russian and Ukrainian grads are being looked down and treated badly in gov hospitals. Most of the consultants think that these grads are not competent and safe. A consultant in Melaka GH even told the elective students off just because they are from Ukraine.

Although there are many reputable Unis in Russia, many forummers said that the strict marking scheme and the high standard is only applicable to Russian students, not foreign students, as these foreigners will not be practicing in Russia most of the time.

Therefore, if money and time are not the concerns for you, i would recommend you to enroll in established private med schools in Msia. However, the decision is still in your hand.

This post has been edited by hypermax: Oct 12 2008, 01:36 AM

ever heard of such allegations in say, the uk?......

don't have to get personal, which tends to be the trait of some emotional forumers here........

This post has been edited by limeuu: Oct 12 2008, 08:35 AM

Just because you haven't heard of it, doesn't mean that there's no such allegations.

In reality, you are the one getting worked up here. Screwing Russian grads, belittling local med schools, using foul language, ridiculed others when you are being challenge. I dun see any trait of an experience doctor from UM from you.

And who's being more emo right now? Using word like "f***" up and all that....

I dare say this: this thread is not peaceful because we have people like you. Most of the time we spent arguing with each other instead of exchanging useful information regarding exams and clinical knowledge. I dun see why you are so particular about where a doctor is from. As long as a doctor is capable, he/she will be a competent and safe doctor even if he/she is from the worst med school on earth.

Since you are an experience doctor, why not shed some light on some clinical skills or bedside knowledge which we need to focus on? All you have done is condemning here and there, without giving any useful advice.

I rest my case

This post has been edited by hypermax: Oct 12 2008, 10:45 AM

qed....

Yes, in deed....

haiya hes from UM wat the BEST med skool in msia! cant blame him if others seemed inferior to him

anyway how come u know hes a doctor?!?! u guys coursemates?? anyway i oso wanna kamcheng with him lar....later can write some good stuff on my CV!!!

He claimed so in either another thread or this thread not so long ago.

Yalar, i must admit all non-bumi doctors from UM are of a different level, but he's the most cocky one i have seen. (that's if he's really one)

This post has been edited by hypermax: Oct 12 2008, 07:57 PM

erm what do u mean by different level?? i got quite a few frens in UM doing med....i mean nth too different wat....they are all 4 flat students too....just like those med students in unimas, ukm etc...... i srsly think UM students are overrated....crap medskools produce good doctors too and not every doctor gradding from a fine medskool is good....it all boils down to the person itself....

well cocky quite ok wat....ppl might dun like him but at least patients wont! coz patients would prefer cocky / high confidence in oneself doctors..... right?

btw hypermax u a doctor / medstudent too?? which uni? which year?

long time didnt sneak in here.. looks like this issues havent solved yet? funny

kinda agree to hypermax.. why dont we discuss something more meaningful especially for us students here (majority ithink) instead of quarreling which uni is the best, or the selection thingy.. which honestly i think more like kedai kopi talk..

UM overrated? hmm, maybe, yeah
try go and ask those abang, uncles and makciks at the local hosp.. majority of them prefer to be treated by UM grads,

dont care la .. as long as we come out as a competent, confident, good heart doctor, any uni also the same..
everywhere also got the bad apples right? as long we are not in that group of ppl, ok edi wat
the point is we should always look out each other whenever there is a need, no matter who they are.. we cant simply look down on our colleague just because they are graduated from u-name-it-wat-uni

so peace ppl.. stop saying something not nice bout other ppl's uni

oh really?