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SUSedge85
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Jun 30 2008, 09:54 AM
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Oh, got such thread. Let's start something to argue about. It's getting boring.
Just a note, I've studied in Moscow for one year. But I quit due to some reasons, which you'll see as you read on.
My seniors back then, they're all really good students. They are really passionate & know practically everything (but how well they'll apply it when they return to Malaysia it's up to the people to judge). The teaching system is also excellent. Students are grouped into groups of 10 or so. So the teacher student ratio is very low. My anatomy lecturers, one was General Surgeon in Libya for too many years, and another was a Neurosurgeon who quit the clinical scene and decided to teach instead. Most of the other lectures are specialists too.
However, due to the recent public thinking of "if I don't get an MD I won't get a job", many people have picked Russia. Before I proceed, here's how the university intake system works. The intake into public medical universities are controlled by agents (as for Moscow, it's called Mos-Lanka; a big company whose director and shareholders from Sri Lanka). They're basically a bunch of money minded fags who don't give a fcuk about your entrance results (ie, SPM, STPM etc). And that is why some of claim the student intake as dubious. I've known some who don't even have a single A in their SPM who went over, completed their foundation, and now doing their MD.
Worse still, it IS possible to purchase a pass in most subjects. A pass would cost around US$50 to US$1000. And how is this possible you may ask. The bigger reason is that these public universities are under-funded by the Russian government. The administrators and lecturers are all underpaid. Plus, why would they want to give a damn as it's not the Russians you're gonna treat after you graduate.
Despite the conducive and beautiful environment of Moscow, which is also full of culture I must say, it is the fact that my university was polluted with under qualified students (and many are just plain stupid) which had me make up my mind to leave the place. This rat race has got to stop. I believe many are taking up this course due to parental pressure, ego, and wanting to live the lavish lifestyle as portrayed in TV series and movies.
The above is the true state of medical universities in Russia, and I hope our government will do something about it.
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SUSedge85
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Jul 13 2008, 01:34 PM
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Looks like every tom d*** and harry is chasing for an MD. Still, I'd suggest STPM/A-Levels. It'll give you more options.
Scared that you can't score enough A's in STPM? Then you don't deserve to study medicine after all.
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SUSedge85
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Jul 13 2008, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 13 2008, 03:18 PM) since when has that been a determining factor on who becomes a doctor in msia? Pardon me, I forgot about the Malaysian constitution. And moolah too. This post has been edited by edge85: Jul 13 2008, 04:10 PM
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SUSedge85
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Jul 30 2008, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(mentos09 @ Jul 26 2008, 11:08 PM) do u know where i can get used books... i studying pre med rite now i need physics text book pm me Where is your location? If you're in Penang I might know a place.
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SUSedge85
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Aug 8 2008, 07:36 AM
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QUOTE(hypermax @ Aug 8 2008, 12:40 AM) Where are you working? How often do you get night duties? Yeah was wondering if you can actually request for more on-calls. Possible?
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SUSedge85
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Aug 13 2008, 01:07 AM
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QUOTE(crusnik02 @ Aug 12 2008, 09:42 PM) Oitt..macam mana boleh lari topic sampai ke Zimbabwe pulak? Hahaha... yum cha topics tend to sway. from medicine to music and to nuclear reactors.
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SUSedge85
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Aug 22 2008, 04:38 AM
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QUOTE(csrulez @ Aug 22 2008, 12:38 AM) Being smart does not prove anything, it's just an add on point for your studies. Hardwork sounds like the more reliable virtue to hold on. Therefore, one can live in medicine without the "smart" (of course abit of basic common sense is needed) part, but not with the "hardwork" part. Most of the work that has to be done during a medical studies is only memorizing and understanding. It depends how much effort and time u put into your studies. Still, who says med students are boring? We studied hard. but at the same time some of us play hard as well. Hahaa. It truly depends on how u cope with it. My Professor for community medicine has once said that Medicine is all the while about common sense, but the "common" is not common. Nice quote. And me wanting to be a doctor? It's an interest. Just thought of knowing out own body is fun and challenging at the same time.  Translated to the common meaning, you want to walk around with your Dr title and get your head all bloated up. Some will say it's because of the money and job security too, which I disagree. =)
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SUSedge85
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Aug 31 2008, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Aug 31 2008, 09:09 AM) discouraging? perhaps... but they're probably telling the truth about the state of medical careers in our country. It's not an easy road to walk on (which course is anyway?) but to be honest, it's good to have some exposure about the real life of a medical professional before one enrolls in a course that's very hard to get out off without suffering great losses ($$ I mean). This is why I will always blame soap dramas. Everything will seem too perfect in soaps.
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SUSedge85
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Oct 7 2008, 09:01 PM
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but nowadays, as long as one has the money, he can be a doctor....so what's with this debate?
won't change a thing, useless doctors are graduating anyway...
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SUSedge85
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Oct 16 2008, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(diegoadriadona @ Oct 16 2008, 03:39 PM) yea...i duno what am i supposed to do to make them understand..1st yr already so difficult..if after 6yrs fail..the amount of money wasted will be more..that's why i insist in goin back to do all over again and then think again whether am i suitable to study medicine..rite now my mind is confused and i don't really like my university(MMA) anymore..juz can't adapt..but what the hell am i suppposed to do?? if i go back...i wonder can borrow JPA loan??to ease my parents burden..that's if only they allow me to restart MMA is supposed to be okay. Stop being a pessimist, look into the brighter areas of your life there. First year medicine can't be that hard. Even lousy students go through. Think about it, not many in your home country get to travel around europe cheap. A flight to London is just at 1GBP! You should enjoy your winter and summer holidays.
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SUSedge85
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Jan 31 2009, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(MBBS siang @ Jan 31 2009, 03:43 PM) really thanks for your advice....actually like what you say everyone have their right to choose what they want and should not be discriminated!!! yaya...you are right!!! maybe I'll still find some time for my own needs. Haha.... the thing that in my mind now is to become a good doctor who can serve my own country my people,to save a lot of life and really be a great doctor who are not always think of money....make my life different by using my hand and knowledge and love to reduce the pain and relieve the miserable of the patient.....maybe some will think i am naive but when you see someone death in front of you just because you are unable to do anything to help , you will know what I feel...thats why I hope all the medical student will become a good doctor and hope so, i can be a great doctor who can really save human's life with compassion and love!!! Thanks..Cristiano-Ronaldo-7 oi, can you break your sentences into paragraphs or not? so hard read lah!
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SUSedge85
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Feb 2 2009, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(wgy589 @ Jan 31 2009, 09:50 PM) never read oxford handbook? btw, any recommendations for internal medicine handbook? Oxford seems to be the best but the words are just too small and closely packed. reading on the monitor is different from reading a real book.
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SUSedge85
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Feb 3 2009, 03:52 AM
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a pharmacist friend of mine (hospital in perak, i wont disclose) told me something just morning.
this houseman in charge with this patient who was on nifedipine (or some drug, if i didnt hear wrongly). he was told to stop the medication if the patient vomits. but instead, he gave him some anti emitics...
This post has been edited by edge85: Feb 3 2009, 03:58 AM
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SUSedge85
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Feb 3 2009, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(MBBS siang @ Feb 3 2009, 10:23 AM) 1. We need a fair ,systematic and consistent selection of admission of medical school(no political power involve,no consideration of skin,no priority to the rich) 2. We need the medical council which is really work...!!!!De-recognize the substandard medical school!!! strictly make sure the quality of med school is good!!! 3.Stop producing rubbish but doctor!!! 4.Who want to be a doctor should know don't because your result is good so must become a doctor , don't because it is a high pay or stable job so you choose it as your career and don't think the title 'DR' means god and with higher social status then want to be 'DR'!!!! why do you want to be a doctor?
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SUSedge85
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Feb 3 2009, 09:25 PM
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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Feb 3 2009, 09:00 PM) Being over enthusiastic and setting very high hopes for things that are yet to come will lead to great disappointment you know... Think about it for awhile~ dream crusher lol!
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SUSedge85
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Feb 4 2009, 07:09 PM
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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Feb 4 2009, 06:39 PM) Lol, I think this already got into 'Real WOrld Issue' thread but if the opposition is ever going to change the university entrance is yet to be seen. But making U's more open to all races without any quota can actually increase international ranking and also more honest in accepting good student without any discrimination. unfortunately, you and me, we know that in 'the real world' such fairness do not exist... and it doesn't matter, to me at least...if our public universities incrase in their international rankings..they can have it their way, if that's what they want...if entrance were to be 'easier', ie by removing the quota wouldn't that make us complacent? ideally speaking if such fairness were to be introduced, think of all the possible consequences...the country would face economic imbalance... hence protests, racial killings etc...
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SUSedge85
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Feb 20 2009, 05:17 AM
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if doctors were to speak english like some in this forum, then i'd rather talk to them in malay.
i have to agree, let's just stick to speaking in malay when it comes to communicating in the government sector.
the last time i made a police report, i wrote it in english...n the officer in charge had a hard time translating it back into malay...
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SUSedge85
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Feb 20 2009, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(usesoap @ Feb 19 2009, 04:45 PM) i went to mmmc, i didnt do ielts.. got band 4 muet.. hehehehe feea bit expensive lah 300k for total 5 years.. imu cheaper i think.. or can go for aimst. dont go indonesia or russia.. because u r not using english there.. will hv prob when start working.. preferably do twining where u can get experience from both side.. i have a friend from a foreign university, now already working...actually no problems with switching language....only problem is getting used to the generic drugs used here, and different ways of patient management...
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SUSedge85
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Mar 8 2009, 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Mar 8 2009, 10:17 AM) why not? you will have much more hands on experience than in big hospitals in the mainland......... go talk to those who have gone there/still there.......the majority are quite happy........ is it true that if i were to apply to east msia for government service, then there's little chance for me to get back to west msia? heard it from some senior... i would really like to try out sabah...but i still want to return home a few years later...
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SUSedge85
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Mar 31 2009, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(hypermax @ Mar 31 2009, 10:33 AM) All this while patients in Malaysia have been choosing their doctors based on qualification and place of origin for the qualification (private only). In gov hospital however, patients can't choose their doctors. yes, but after 2015...they should revise a new system? that would add to the competition...
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