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naqib0307
post May 11 2019, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(OhNooy @ May 11 2019, 11:15 PM)
My budget hopefully around 2k without wiring coz wiring will be done by wireman during reno, conceal under plaster ceiling.
I worry analog will be phasing out in few years, and need multiple cables for 1 cam.
How many cameras?
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27 cameras + 3 AP
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QUOTE(OhNooy @ May 11 2019, 11:15 PM)
My budget hopefully around 2k without wiring coz wiring will be done by wireman during reno, conceal under plaster ceiling.
I worry analog will be phasing out in few years, and need multiple cables for 1 cam.
How many cameras?
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Analog will still be around, now they already have 4K but if pixel to pixel for comparison IP still is a little better but will have a bit of latency depending on how you connect them to your NVR.
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post May 12 2019, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(OhNooy @ May 11 2019, 11:15 PM)
My budget hopefully around 2k without wiring coz wiring will be done by wireman during reno, conceal under plaster ceiling.
I worry analog will be phasing out in few years, and need multiple cables for 1 cam.
How many cameras?
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Wiring u can ask ur reno contractor, how much per point pull cable. I got around RM80-90 per point, cable i provide. My contractor told me if without cable he charge rm200+ per point. 1 box cable (305m) range from RM3xx-5xx. alang alang already pull the cable, add some more point for each room / tv point. then later all can put in one rack. Modem, nvr, switch, router, NAS.

Depends on how many cam u want to install. If you plan to install many camera, u can save alot if install it yourself, just make sure u know what you are doing biggrin.gif

Survey where you can get the best deal for camera and nvr. For me, I saved about RM1k for camera after comparing a few places.

Previously, I went to one of cctv installer in putra heights, price for camera with installation quoted about RM2.4k for 4 x 2MP cameras system.

With almost the same price, i bought somewhere else and install it myself, got myself 8 x 4MP cameras.
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QUOTE(naqib0307 @ May 12 2019, 10:55 AM)
Wiring u can ask ur reno contractor, how much per point pull cable. I got around RM80-90 per point, cable i provide. My contractor told me if without cable he charge rm200+ per point. 1 box cable (305m) range from RM3xx-5xx. alang alang already pull the cable, add some more point for each room / tv point. then later all can put in one rack. Modem, nvr, switch, router, NAS.

Depends on how many cam u want to install. If you plan to install many camera, u can save alot if install it yourself, just make sure u know what you are doing  biggrin.gif

Survey where you can get the best deal for camera and nvr.  For me, I saved about RM1k for camera after comparing a few places.

Previously, I went to one of cctv installer in putra heights, price for camera with installation quoted about RM2.4k for  4 x 2MP cameras system.

With almost the same price, i bought somewhere else and install it myself, got myself 8 x 4MP cameras.
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But if the guy install for you within 1 year he will need to come and service if any camera spoilt, NVR problem etc. But your way you will need to take out the camera yourself & sent in for warranty.
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post May 13 2019, 12:44 AM

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Compare the HIK 5Mp with mine. 4Mp can just forget it. Btw, fps for HIK 5Mp only 12.5 & not 15.

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QUOTE(adamw @ May 13 2019, 12:44 AM)
Compare the HIK 5Mp with mine. 4Mp can just forget it. Btw, fps for HIK 5Mp only 12.5 & not 15.
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This 5MP is coaxial type? what model?
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QUOTE(adamw @ May 12 2019, 10:06 AM)
Analog will still be around, now they already have 4K but if pixel to pixel for comparison IP still is a little better but will have a bit of latency depending on how you connect them to your NVR.
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QUOTE(naqib0307 @ May 12 2019, 10:55 AM)
Wiring u can ask ur reno contractor, how much per point pull cable. I got around RM80-90 per point, cable i provide. My contractor told me if without cable he charge rm200+ per point. 1 box cable (305m) range from RM3xx-5xx. alang alang already pull the cable, add some more point for each room / tv point. then later all can put in one rack. Modem, nvr, switch, router, NAS.

Depends on how many cam u want to install. If you plan to install many camera, u can save alot if install it yourself, just make sure u know what you are doing  biggrin.gif

Survey where you can get the best deal for camera and nvr.  For me, I saved about RM1k for camera after comparing a few places.

Previously, I went to one of cctv installer in putra heights, price for camera with installation quoted about RM2.4k for  4 x 2MP cameras system.

With almost the same price, i bought somewhere else and install it myself, got myself 8 x 4MP cameras.
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Any specific IP camera to recommend? These are not wireless type right? Some people said wireless IP camera tend to be hacked, true?
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ May 13 2019, 06:03 AM)
This 5MP is coaxial type? what model?
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5Mp IP Camera, 2nd is my own oem & 3rd is HIK ds-2cd1053g0-i
QUOTE(OhNooy @ May 13 2019, 06:42 AM)
Any specific IP camera to recommend? These are not wireless type right? Some people said wireless IP camera tend to be hacked, true?
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Both wireless & wired also can be hacked but there are more run of the mill type for wireless from smaller company so more likely to be hacked.

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QUOTE(adamw @ May 13 2019, 07:28 AM)
5Mp IP Camera, 2nd is my own oem & 3rd is HIK ds-2cd1053g0-i
How come your 5MP IP camera only can work on 12.5 FPS?
Is that limitation on NVR side?
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QUOTE(alexander3133 @ May 13 2019, 08:11 AM)
How come your 5MP IP camera only can work on 12.5 FPS?
Is that limitation on NVR side?
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Nope, HIK IPC limitation. Like the 4Mp is 20 but 1080p is 25. This are low end consumer items. Their pro series can go full frame or even higher but then price is not cheap.
4Mp HIK compare with my 5Mp.

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Any recommendation for wireless cctv that does not require nvr? Like uploading to cloud directly. I saw Xiaomi got, but not sure really good or not.
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QUOTE(OhNooy @ May 14 2019, 10:16 AM)
Any recommendation for wireless cctv that does not require nvr? Like uploading to cloud directly. I saw Xiaomi got, but not sure really good or not.
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Indoor or outdoor? Need pan & tilt?
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QUOTE(adamw @ May 14 2019, 11:27 AM)
Indoor or outdoor? Need pan & tilt?
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Both indoor and outdoor. Pan & tilt optional.
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QUOTE(OhNooy @ May 14 2019, 05:19 PM)
Both indoor and outdoor. Pan & tilt optional.
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If different software app is ok for you, you can look for Ebitcam/Vimtag for Indoor Pan tilt & Tuya app IP camera for outdoor.
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Hi guys!

I'm building my dream house now (currently in the early stage of foundation and ground beam) and expected to start the electrical wiring within 3 months. I will use my wireman to pull cables for alarm n cctv. btw He doesn't know how to setup the alarm n cctv, so I'll setup myself.

So my question:

1. I have no experience in cctv or alarm installation, but I consider myself to be quite good in following manuals and quick learner in IT stuff haha. (btw I setup my own networking in my offices and home. with mikrotik/ubiquiti hardwares). How's the learning curve in setup the alarm and cctv?

2. Alarm: I'm considering the Paradox Magellan wireless alarm system. Is this okay? I really do not mind changing the batteries. The convenience of no wire is very appealing to me, is there any other concern with this system?

3. CCTV: I'm planning to have IP based cctv, with 8 indoor and 8 outdoor cameras. My whole house will be wired with cat6, so I think I should just go with poe-powered cctv? Any recommendation of system/brand?

Thank you! smile.gif


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QUOTE(aliex87 @ May 18 2019, 04:33 PM)
Hi guys!

I'm building my dream house now (currently in the early stage of foundation and ground beam) and expected to start the electrical wiring within 3 months. I will use my wireman to pull cables for alarm n cctv. btw He doesn't know how to setup the alarm n cctv, so I'll setup myself.

So my question:

1. I have no experience in cctv or alarm installation, but I consider myself to be quite good in following manuals and quick learner in IT stuff haha. (btw I setup my own networking in my offices and home. with mikrotik/ubiquiti hardwares). How's the learning curve in setup the alarm and cctv?

2. Alarm: I'm considering the Paradox Magellan wireless alarm system. Is this okay? I really do not mind changing the batteries. The convenience of no wire is very appealing to me, is there any other concern with this system?

3. CCTV: I'm planning to have IP based cctv, with 8 indoor and 8 outdoor cameras. My whole house will be wired with cat6, so I think I should just go with poe-powered cctv? Any recommendation of system/brand?

Thank you! smile.gif
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1.It's not that difficult to DIY.
2.Have you look into Smart Home solution with Alarm?
3. You cannot go wrong with POE IP camera. Of course I would say my IP Camera is better than Dahua/HIK consumer series. brows.gif

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QUOTE(adamw @ May 18 2019, 07:31 PM)
1.It's not that difficult to DIY.
2.Have you look into Smart Home solution with Alarm?
3. You cannot go wrong with POE IP camera. Of course I would say my IP Camera is better than Dahua/HIK consumer series. brows.gif
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Thank you so much for your reply!

1. good to know this!

2. Is "Smart Home Solution" a brand? if not, any specific model/brand that I can look into? And I forgot to mention I need everything in English only.

3. Interesting, do you sell IP Cameras?

Thank you! smile.gif
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QUOTE(aliex87 @ May 18 2019, 09:35 PM)
Thank you so much for your reply!

1. good to know this!

2. Is "Smart Home Solution" a brand? if not, any specific model/brand that I can look into? And I forgot to mention I need everything in English only.

3. Interesting, do you sell IP Cameras?

Thank you! smile.gif
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2.Smart Home
3.Yes, I do and if my IP Camera video quality loose out to Dahua/HIK consumer grade, will give you 100% refund.
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post May 19 2019, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(aliex87 @ May 18 2019, 04:33 PM)
Hi guys!

I'm building my dream house now (currently in the early stage of foundation and ground beam) and expected to start the electrical wiring within 3 months. I will use my wireman to pull cables for alarm n cctv. btw He doesn't know how to setup the alarm n cctv, so I'll setup myself.

So my question:

1. I have no experience in cctv or alarm installation, but I consider myself to be quite good in following manuals and quick learner in IT stuff haha. (btw I setup my own networking in my offices and home. with mikrotik/ubiquiti hardwares). How's the learning curve in setup the alarm and cctv?

2. Alarm: I'm considering the Paradox Magellan wireless alarm system. Is this okay? I really do not mind changing the batteries. The convenience of no wire is very appealing to me, is there any other concern with this system?

3. CCTV: I'm planning to have IP based cctv, with 8 indoor and 8 outdoor cameras. My whole house will be wired with cat6, so I think I should just go with poe-powered cctv? Any recommendation of system/brand?

Thank you! smile.gif
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I did DIY cctv installation first with 8cctv then my 2nd project 27 cameras. it is easy. Plug n play. I did it in 3 days for 27 cam project, most of the camera is up already. And everyday after work at night I continue cleaning up the rack. It was fun doing it yourself. In the meantime, you can do the patch cord first.

I used HIKvision. As a first time user, it is really easy to use. Plug n play. But for DOME camera, need to activate it + create password first using ur pc (not sure if there is other way, im informing based on my experience)

Ask your wireman how much he charge per point to pull cable. You buy your own cable cheaper. My wiremen charged RM80/point. I used DINTEK previously, for the bigger project, i used CAT6 commscope cable. For DIY i suggest this commscope cable. easier to use compared to dintek. Dintek cable is a lot stiffer than commscope. Sakit jari.

If u use POE setup, you can add on also POE Access Point, ceiling/wall mount for wifi coverage for whole house.

When setting up the system, i bring my monitor down to connect to the nvr via hdmi. After it is done, now can monitor using HIK apps or through browser if im viewing from PC.

My setup,

15U wallmount rack
24 ports Dlink cat6 patch panel x 2
16 Ports dlink gigabit switch
Dlink 8 ports gigabit POE switch x 4
Hikvision 7732 nvr (32Ch)
4MP camera DS-2CD1143G0 x 11 pcs (Dome)
4MP camera DS-2CD1043G0 x 16 pcs (Bullet)
1100VA APC UPS x 2

everything fit inside the rack except for the ups i didnt put it inside cause I feel like it will roboh soon if put 10kg ups each lol.


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QUOTE(naqib0307 @ May 19 2019, 12:48 AM)
I did DIY cctv installation first with 8cctv then my 2nd project 27 cameras. it is easy. Plug n play. I did it in 3 days for 27 cam project, most of the camera is up already. And everyday after work at night I continue cleaning up the rack. It was fun doing it yourself. In the meantime, you can do the patch cord first.

I used HIKvision. As a first time user, it is really easy to use. Plug n play. But for DOME camera, need to activate it + create password first using ur pc (not sure if there is other way, im informing based on my experience)

Ask your wireman how much he charge per point to pull cable. You buy your own cable cheaper. My wiremen charged RM80/point. I used DINTEK previously, for the bigger project, i used CAT6 commscope cable. For DIY i suggest this commscope cable. easier to use compared to dintek. Dintek cable is a lot stiffer than commscope. Sakit jari.

If u use POE setup, you can add on also POE Access Point, ceiling/wall mount for wifi coverage for whole house.

When setting up the system, i bring my monitor down to connect to the nvr via hdmi. After it is done, now can monitor using HIK apps or through browser if im viewing from PC.

My setup,

15U wallmount rack
24 ports Dlink cat6 patch panel x 2
16 Ports dlink gigabit switch
Dlink 8 ports gigabit POE switch x 4
Hikvision 7732 nvr (32Ch)
4MP camera DS-2CD1143G0 x 11 pcs (Dome)
4MP camera DS-2CD1043G0 x 16 pcs (Bullet)
1100VA APC UPS x 2

everything fit inside the rack except for the ups i didnt put it inside cause I feel like it will roboh soon if put 10kg ups each lol.
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Yes, actually HIK should have given an option to let you use the IPC on the local lan without to bother with the activation. But maybe they have learn the lesson when they got hacked 2 years ago. BTW, did you activate the P2P for all 27 IPC? Or only view via NVR?

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