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post Jul 24 2016, 10:35 PM

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VW Vento supose also to give free 7" Blaupunkt....

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post Jul 24 2016, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(MrAkA @ Jul 24 2016, 09:03 PM)
Tried Highline and Comfortline. It's subjective regarding engine power, for 1.6MPI it takes 6-7 sec to reach 100km/h with almost full throttle, hardly test for further speed due to route.
The difference between Comfort and Trend is just number of airbags and some interior design.

For 1.2 TSI, no doubt about the pick up speed and some safety features.

Yeah, either you take free installment until next year with down payment or cash rebate up to 10k. Depends on your SA.
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nonono not 6-7 secs.... not saying that its slow but its nowhere near that fast. Even the 1.2tsi would be slower than that haha..... i remember it (the mpi) being something like 10-11 secs or more..... (remember time with a stopwatch, mental counters always lie) tongue.gif
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post Jul 25 2016, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 23 2016, 03:48 PM)
Not me la. haha.
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Okay.

QUOTE(ilnerodiablo @ Jul 24 2016, 01:46 AM)
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Don't bother to fix up the car when giving it to the used car dealer.
No matter what they'd offer you a terrible price for it anyway.

Maybe you can also consider the Civic Hybrid, it is around the same price but much bigger and comfortable.

QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 24 2016, 07:10 AM)
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I'd pick the 6AT from Aisan than risk it with the DSG anytime.
I might write about the DCT gearbox soon to explain more about the industry and why they're still supporting it.

QUOTE(MrAkA @ Jul 24 2016, 03:17 PM)
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Well....here is the thing.

Unless they've vastly improved things since a few years back the TSI engines and DSG gearboxes are quite temperamental.
If you've tried the 1.2 first the only to the 1.6 then of course anyone would be biased towards the 1.2 because when working that twincharger makes you feel like you're driving a Ferrari.
However, that is the issue. Unless there have been improvements you might get frustrated as many VW owners have been regarding either one failing, the problem was exacerbated by VAG impotence, avoiding game or trying to pin the blame on owners.
The new Golf MK7 with a 1.2 and 1.4 TSI engine and DSG gearbox so far so good but would you really want to be a lab rat?

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post Jul 25 2016, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(MrAkA @ Jul 24 2016, 05:09 PM)
I agree with what you mentioned. Take back what I said biggrin.gif Not quite sure is the route issue or the way drove is wrong. Probably I need to hit until 4000 rpm to test the power. But the 1.2 TSI is really tempting.
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make sure your service center is well equipped, got free food and comfortable.
you'll be spending alot of time there.

QUOTE(stasio @ Jul 24 2016, 10:35 PM)
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yes, VAG is trying very hard to woo back customers after the TSI/DSG-gate.

QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 24 2016, 10:49 PM)
nonono not 6-7 secs.... not  saying that its slow but its nowhere near that fast. Even the 1.2tsi would be slower than that haha..... i remember it (the mpi) being something like 10-11 secs or more..... (remember time with a stopwatch, mental counters always lie) tongue.gif
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6-7secs that's Golf GTI territory laugh.gif
even then it takes the Golf GTI 6.8 seconds
even performance sedans need at least 10 seconds laugh.gif

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post Jul 25 2016, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jul 25 2016, 03:04 PM)
Okay.
Don't bother to fix up the car when giving it to the used car dealer.
No matter what they'd offer you a terrible price for it anyway.

Maybe you can also consider the Civic Hybrid, it is around the same price but much bigger and comfortable.
I'd pick the 6AT from Aisan than risk it with the DSG anytime.
I might write about the DCT gearbox soon to explain more about the industry and why they're still supporting it.
Well....here is the thing.
Please tag me for this, I'd like to know more about DSG, DCT's, or other gearbox for that matter.



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post Jul 25 2016, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(dark90 @ Jul 25 2016, 02:25 PM)
Please tag me for this, I'd like to know more about DSG, DCT's, or other gearbox for that matter.
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i'll get TS to sticky it at the front.
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post Jul 25 2016, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jul 25 2016, 03:26 PM)
i'll get TS to sticky it at the front.
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That's great man, Thanks! i'm really impressed with your knowledge regarding cars.. do you work in the automotive businesses?

Or do you just test drive cars as a hobby? i'm really curious man..
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post Jul 25 2016, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jul 25 2016, 02:19 PM)
6-7secs that's Golf GTI territory  laugh.gif
even then it takes the Golf GTI 6.8 seconds
even performance sedans need at least 10 seconds  laugh.gif
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very jelly.... must transplant evo masuk then only can main with these fellas~~

then again ==" i realize.... i trashed my saga kao kao, really push to the limit....
with my current old junk... im quite gentle with it.... x pernah pass 110-120 pun....
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post Jul 25 2016, 02:44 PM

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Thanks for the heads up, really value your input. I'm quite aware to their DSG gearbox issues, where I'm driving a time bomb if I bought it.
Anyhow, I tried the 1.6 first then only to 1.2. Totally get your messages.
Hahaha I wish I have a budget to try Golf MK7.

Jokes aside, since my budget have stretched to 80k plus. Any other recommendation?
Went to Madza to view the Madza 2, too bad have to make appointment to test drive.
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post Jul 25 2016, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(dark90 @ Jul 25 2016, 02:28 PM)
That's great man, Thanks! i'm really impressed with your knowledge regarding cars.. do you work in the automotive businesses?
Or do you just test drive cars as a hobby? i'm really curious man..
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bang walls long enough you will know as much too.
i guess it all started out with a lemon proton wira.
was useful as an education into cars when i was younger.
but terrible as something you need as a reliable workhorse when you have a job.
that and much reading and blow water laugh.gif

if i work in the auto biz i won't be able to freely share.
i think you've notice our local publications are all "good news only" reviews.

QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 25 2016, 02:37 PM)
very jelly.... must transplant evo masuk then only can main with these fellas~~
then again ==" i realize.... i trashed my saga kao kao, really push to the limit....
with my current old junk... im quite gentle with it.... x pernah pass 110-120 pun....
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LOL!
i'm pretty brave then.
140 on a 2005 galant with 15" non low profile tires laugh.gif
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post Jul 25 2016, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jul 25 2016, 02:45 PM)
if i work in the auto biz i won't be able to freely share.
i think you've notice our local publications are all "good news only" reviews.
LOL!
i'm pretty brave then.
140 on a 2005 galant with 15" non low profile tires laugh.gif
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lol too sayanglah..... can see all the stone chips on the bumper.... i think after i repaint the car.... my max speed will drop to 80-90.....
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post Jul 25 2016, 03:01 PM

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STUFF TO STICKY at the first page

Here is the reality of DCT (dual clutch transmissions) in TLDR fashion.
Dry DCT = russian roulette but "maintenance free"
Wet DCT = bullet proof but is not cheap to maintain.

DCT like any other gearbox was designed initially for oil change. For example the Mitsubishi SST on the Evo 10 needs about 5.6L of DCT oil, which is about USD154 per can of 4L (sos for cost estimation) , that isn't cheap and would only be okay for sports cars.

However, as manufacturers wanted to put DCT into their smaller/cheaper cars (e.g. VW Polo/VW Golf) they had to figure a way to lower the cost of maintenance thus Dry DCT was born. Dry DCT isn't actually dry, it is just a sealed system with oil that doesn't require change and doesn't require to pass an oil filter. IINM it was designed to last the product lifetime, which is about 10 years (i could be wrong though). So it was designed and tested in Europe and America, however it wasn't tested on tropical climates, thus heat from the engine and tarmac just made everything worst.




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post Jul 25 2016, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(MrAkA @ Jul 25 2016, 02:44 PM)
Thanks for the heads up, really value your input. I'm quite aware to their DSG gearbox issues, where I'm driving a time bomb if I bought it.
Anyhow, I tried the 1.6 first then only to 1.2. Totally get your messages.
Hahaha I wish I have a budget to try Golf MK7.

Jokes aside, since my budget have stretched to 80k plus. Any other recommendation?
Went to Madza to view the Madza 2, too bad have to make appointment to test drive.
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I know the Vento is like a hate/love thing right now for u laugh.gif

As for Mazda if you don't mind to buy from a showroom in cheras, i can give you the contact of the lady boss brows.gif
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post Jul 25 2016, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jul 25 2016, 04:03 PM)
I know the Vento is like a hate/love thing right now for u  laugh.gif

As for Mazda if you don't mind to buy from a showroom in cheras, i can give you the contact of the lady boss  brows.gif
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i am back has anyone tested the all new bezza which was made by perodua?
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post Jul 25 2016, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jul 25 2016, 03:03 PM)
I know the Vento is like a hate/love thing right now for u  laugh.gif

As for Mazda if you don't mind to buy from a showroom in cheras, i can give you the contact of the lady boss  brows.gif
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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jul 25 2016, 03:20 PM)
i am back has anyone tested the all new bezza which was made by perodua?
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tried. more or less the same as myvi 1.3. but that's due to the route and egoism of perodua sa. so I just went off. Cant test on straight wide road.
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MK7 DSG gearbox resolved???
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post Jul 26 2016, 02:36 AM

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QUOTE(eric84cool @ Jul 25 2016, 10:54 PM)
MK7 DSG gearbox resolved???
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Cars are still about 3 years old at most... Not old enough to be considered proven if you ask me
I know the MK6 with the DQ200 was a problamatic box.... I think the MK7 uses the same box? (Don't quote me on this, not100% sure)

If I had that kind of money to spend on a car, I would probably avoid this (again, that's just me)
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post Jul 26 2016, 03:58 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jul 25 2016, 02:04 PM)
Okay.
Don't bother to fix up the car when giving it to the used car dealer.
No matter what they'd offer you a terrible price for it anyway.
like that ahh? hahaha... very very wtf. sweat.gif
thanks for the heads up. thinking of keeping aside the money to fix up car, but guess i wont be bothered.
ill go n trade in the car anyway. much appreciated thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 25 2016, 08:31 PM)
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tried. more or less the same as myvi 1.3. but that's due to the route and egoism of perodua sa. so I just went off. Cant test on straight wide road.
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new.

QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 26 2016, 02:36 AM)
Cars are still about 3 years old at most... Not old enough to be considered proven if you ask me
I know the MK6 with the DQ200 was a problamatic box.... I think the MK7 uses the same box? (Don't quote me on this, not100% sure)
If I had that kind of money to spend on a car, I would probably avoid this (again, that's just me)
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DSG 6-speed = DQ250
DSG 7-speed = DQ200

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Above is the job card for the european recall for DSG gearbox. And here is the quote from the owner below;

"I have done the oil change at the dealership, it was a quick 1 hour job. The car still feels the same, the gears still swap sweetly and rapidly. Good.

I asked the service manager about the post May 2013 built cars and he said yes, they are likely to be already filled with the mineral oil. This recall is a global thing issued by Volkswagen AG, hence it is not only limited to tropical climates. Hopefully the UK dealers have already started looking into it.

19 Litres of mineral oil G052512S0 was used."

QUOTE(ilnerodiablo @ Jul 26 2016, 03:58 AM)
like that ahh? hahaha... very very wtf.  sweat.gif
thanks for the heads up. thinking of keeping aside the money to fix up car, but guess i wont be bothered.
ill go n trade in the car anyway. much appreciated  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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yeah, if your car is in good condition i'm sure in their minds they're thinking "sucker".
unless you plan to sell directly to friends/family, don't really bother to fix up cosmetic issues.
however, if got major issues like the car cannot start or aircon not working you better fix it.
used car dealers won't care what ICE, rims, bodykit, and mods done.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jul 25 2016, 09:31 PM)
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tried. more or less the same as myvi 1.3. but that's due to the route and egoism of perodua sa. so I just went off. Cant test on straight wide road.
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ok.

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