BND not MYR
over here it is a common price.
but most of the models using 4g63.
but 4k convert to MYR is only 12k.
settle shipping/tax/etc under 15k to WM.
and a VRG transplant is only 5k MYR

sell for 40k = profit

Quite surprising that X-gear depreciated so much....but however the car design is not my liking. Too bad, Nissan design is quite bold actually.....

for your budget you won't be able to get any decent toyota's younger than 2010

Malaysian spoil market Government charge duty tax also high

Does other Japanese car maker fit into my criteria? or luckily conti if I choose even older car which is not more than 8 years old? Max YR2009/10 registered car....

when trying to keep maintanance low... try not exactly the best idea to go for those conti's

you have inspiras (basically mitsulah) but maintanance isnt the cheapest around
you have the sylphy (even uglier than the xross x)
you have the city, the common everyday seen car...
vios need not be mentioned, everyone knows it

if u dare touch conti's
theres the lovely 308 turbo, nce to look at nice to drive but.... i myself x berani nak beli. turbo go, tranny go... money fly fly fly
theres the fiesta, which can cost abit to maintain. tranny issue jugak
theres the polo which if goes wrong will make you want to shoot yourself.
(heck if any of these 3 goes wrong you would shoot yourself)

Have you guys ever heard of Haval? Chinese brand if i'm not mistaken, any opinions on it? has anyone ever test drove it before?

This post has been edited by dark90: Jul 21 2016, 03:41 PM

theres also the h2....

m4 seen it and thats about it, never test drove it or anything.....

point though, the m4 really is like a perodua... engine layout is almost exactly the same. *at least as far as i noticed*
they are sold at a pretty decent price plus 7 years unlimited mileage warranty, good deal..... BUT 3 things!!!!
1 - designed by chinamen, made in china... these 2 for a car, isnt really inspiring confidence, god knows where they skimped and if it will hold up (look at those dirt cheap cherry's they are like crap now and are worth nothing)
2 - amt transmission... ohhohoho would not touch.....
3 - parts/skills... do they stock em? kalau ko.. ade skills and parts to save it or not? xde then how...

quite headache when selecting used car...

btw, my current ride is Honda IDSI yr2003 and mileage clock in approaching to 250k . No major accident, no major repairs...just recently this year spent quite a fortune to fix the front absorber, radiator, aircon compressor. Quite ...

Not sure whether to remain the current ride or change to affordable car within 50k budget. I expecting another 30k value lost in the next 5 years if I change to new ride. dilemma

Back to used car selection, how about mazda 2/3 (previous generation) ??

Kimchi car, I don't think I will go for it as parent had bad experience with the car repair & poor resales value.

I know that feel... Cooling coil, labour etc etc.

haha... But if I were you, I won't opt for used car. Might as well maintained the current ride. Because you wil never know the history of the car....

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : Around 60k-70k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Preferably new. If used, it would be good within warranty period
4. Specs : Any
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : Any
7. Type :4 seater
8. Remarks : Segment B / C

Occasionally highway drive, most of time city drive only. Currently owns a 13 years proton waja, quite enjoy driving especially on highway, but the wear and tear started to giving me headache.
Hence looking for a new car that provide me similar or better features .
Have gone thru most of pages of this thread, not a fan of Vios, City and Almera.

Kinda attract to Ford Fiesta Titanium, as the SC cover 3 years service and 5 years warranty. But those comments on Ford Malaysia FB have got my concerns.

Sifus please advise. Thankss

what are the negatives for buying an old/classic car (manufactured 1970s or earlier)? some of the questions i have are...
- is there any additional road tax etc that have to pay for owning old car?
- will insurance company provide comprehensive cover?
- are spare parts still available for brands like toyota, datsun, mazda etc? are they expensive?

1) no & infact you can apply for Classic Car status to have a cheaper roadtax

2) yes, but can only opt for third party fire & theft and not comprehensive coverage

3) there are lots of made in japan & taiwan & balakong parts for sale nowadays & price depends on brands like a tiga lima brand [ jepun ori ] ball joint for a 1972 toyota can fetch > rm300 almost same price of a aftermarket of a e46 front lower arm ball joint set which cost abt rm450 [ i just asked my mech ]

So you own perdana v6. Yes its gearbox is well known to be huge issue.But Wira has a better gearbox than perdana v6 because i have ever test drive/ride on Wira before.

can you just please keep your waja Ok?If 60k-70k,forget about mazda 2. If you are aiming for these prices which is around 60k to 70k for new cars and since you do not like vios,city and almera, It will be between Iriz 1.6 premium and Proton Suprima S Standard.LSM1991, please help me to guide him which car should he pick since he does not want vios,city and almera. (http://www.proton-edar.com.my/en/Promotions/Proton%20Suprima%20S%20Promo.aspx#promo-details)

This post has been edited by andrewyu2005: Jul 22 2016, 09:20 AM

oh nono... most earlier proton gearboxes suffer from issues after a while.... iswara gearbox, wira gearbox, all same... not on par with what mitsu's were using on their cars (prettymuch proton was given the short straw)... the manuals, now those are bulletproof

edit: ohh yeah no i dont own a perdana

1) negatives? not really, classic car status = fun BUT there are many criterias to fulfill.... car must basically be in the stock standard factory condition other than the electrical and braking systems, rims steering , all stock, must have 2 other cars under your name, all that stuff. (tbh not worth ur trouble applying for this status if its a smaller cc car)

2) comprehensive? heck only i own a 21 yo car, and they already hate me.... imagine if you owned one that was 40.... they would instantly disappear from sight when you are around (i guess you could get comp insurance but prepare to pay a huge premium cause i heave heard of several e30 owners still on comp insurance)

3) depends on what car this is... if its a common car, yes no problem.... if its a very rare car, you might need to import parts from elsewhere (mini parts are available on ebay uk, us, aus and a few other countries cause they are sort of popular there) like digilife said, china does produce spare parts for cars which have followings. (from what i have heard, some of these china manufactured parts are actually of very good quality, but ofc those are exp)
-best if you join the relevant car clubs to find out more (that's what i did, some of the owners of these older cars are experts at sourcing, solving known issues)
-note that usually its not really these mechanical parts which are the problem.... usually its the trim which you cannot find anymore.

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Jul 22 2016, 09:55 AM

trouble as in scared it leaves you stranded or cost wise? if the later, dnt think its a great idea to touch that ford..... not exactly the epitome of reliability on our roads. A cousin of mine owned one, manyak issue starting from the 1st week... mau jual pun wah, significant loss.... not saying that all of them are like that, but yea...... reconsider....

now i have no idea about your needs/wants and frankly speaking i dont know much about the cars in this segment~ but if you are willingly looking at that fiesta, i would also look at:
peugeot 208 (used)
-cause just as unreliable but damn its pretty!
golf (used)
-just as bad as the ford/peugeot
crz (used)
-cause i really like how it looks and all in all, its a brilliant car (assuming you dont mind being a white rat in event the electrical stuff fails cause all in all, hybrids are still pretty new tech)
swift sport (used)
-actually pretty decent but its not the best bang for buck if you are looking for a basic practical car
(all completely useless info i know hehe )


andrew is going to recommend proton to everyone on earth, so let him preach to you...~ (tahan ya, stay strong )

Emm.... valid point also.

If like that, I got to spend around 2k to beautify the car ....the top layer of paint starting to peel off.

any suggestion of cheap paint workshop in Klang Valley?

Yes. A relative of mine bought it.
It does have a few fancy features.

1. AMT gearbox, I find automatic mode to be terrible and driving it in manual mode all the time is quite tedious.
2. Rear view Mirror which doubles up as a TNG smart tag, this is very smart I wonder why Proton/Perodua never do this.
3. It did have leaking issues, the rubber for the windows have been changed and seems to be okay now.
4. The engine looks familiar but they deny it is from Toyota, I suspect it is the same engine as the Vios.
5. Space wise it isn't the best, almost no boot, i would say the body is A/B segment at best.

dunno why i have a feeling they lifted the body from a Toyota Vitz


Since the car is fixed now just keep it a while longer then save up for something better.
Honestly as far as the used car market goes 60-80k is the sweet spot for nice C/D-segment cars and sports cars aged between 3-7 years old.
50k the pickings are slim mostly from not so great RV Japanese makes like Nissan, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Suzuki, etc.

2016 Mazda2 - if you're talking a out cars like this, sometimes it can be a scam, what kind of guy would buy a car in 2016 then sell it in the same year unless this is a reposes unit but usually you don't get such information from the salesman they usually try to assure you it is a good car but owner upgraded or some bullshit because if he tell you it is a reposes unit then you'll immediately think it won't be maintained properly, right?

2016 VW Vento/Polo Sedan/Polo Hatch - if you want a cheap car with full warranty your best bet is a Volkswagen nowadays. First the naming conventions the Polo started out as a 1.2TSI car but DSG/TSI issues made customers worry so they introduced the Polo Sedan which is a 1.6MPI engine with a regular 6 speed gearbox (not DSG and no turbo) older technology but very reliable and you still get the refined conti interior feel (unless you really look you'll find most VW interiors quite similar in look and feel). Later they launched the Polo Hatch which is also fitted with 1.6MPI & 6AT. Now they're launching the Vento which is the Polo Sedan with a 1.2TSI engine & DSG gearbox. Supposedly the latest TSI engine and DSG gearbox have rectified the issues of the previous generation which is why the Golf MK7 with the 1.4TSI doesn't get so much negative feedback as the MK6. Anyway, back to you and what to choose. The Polo Sedan/Hatch with the 1.6MPI engiine and 6AT gearbox from Aisin would be a good upgrade for you. Although the Waja is a C-segment car the Polo Sedan is a modern B-segment which is larger than older ones so space wise it would be about the same iinm, plus you get a few nifty C-segment toys like rear passenger aircon and multi-function steering wheel. Performance wise it should be better with 6 gears and of course better fuel economy. This particular seller is even giving you free 6 months installments as a discount. This is a good compromise of conti interior but japanese-like maintenance because of a more simple engine/gearbox. So once warranty over you can bring it outside to fix at cheaper prices.

Since you've owned a car for so long you should be comfortable to buy a used car since you know where to get things fixed cheaply and what usually goes wrong. Getting one with warranty or new car only forces you to use the expensive SC/3S.

2012 Suzuki Kizashi 2.4 - superb Japanese D-segment saloon. Suzuki is not known for making D-segment cars but they really made one as good as a Mazda6 and similarly spec'ed but RV drops like a rock which is good for you as you can pick it up for only 70k from it's original price of 140k

1. Yes, you have to pay roadtax. If it has classic car status road tax is cheaper but there are two rules you must comply first before getting that.
a) Must own two other cars with normal status.
b) The car you are applying to have classic status must be in very good to near showroom condition i.e. no rust, no modifications, etc (it depends on the officer inspecting the car, some allow OEM upgrades like brake kits, some don't)

2. Comprehensive cover for older cars depends on the car condition and how much you're willing to pay for the premium. e.g. your car only worth RM10k the premium is about RM1k (like new car), i've never had a car that old before so I can't really say anything for certain, however my friends keeping older Proton Saga and condition isn't the best only can get 3rd party cover.

3) Parts shouldn't be an issue for major brands but price might be an issue, since not many keep such cars even if the stockist can get the parts it might have to be flown in from somewhere. Your first choice is always the chop shops and internet (ebay/taobao). That's why usually people just buy another similar car in good/bad condition just to keep as spare parts donation car.

Thanks for the reply.

2016 Mazda2 Scam by using the ad to attract the customer, but introduce other units when customer in their car shop? Not really get what you mean.. Pls forgive me for little knowledge about reposes unit, what's the cons of reposes unit? Is reposes unit similar to car showroom unit?

2016 VW Vento/Polo Sedan/Polo Hatch Yea, almost missed out this. Yea, 1.6MPI engine seems fit into my budget range and preference. Would go for a test drive first, do you have any SA to introduce I'm staying in PJ

2012 Suzuki Kizashi 2.4 Err, I will give a skip for this one. The insurance and roadtax would be a huge leap to me

This post has been edited by MrAkA: Jul 22 2016, 03:23 PM

zenix

Care to give some insight ?


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