Please go and get Suprima S standard because it is cheaper than preve cfe and it's interior quality is better than preve cfe. If you love vento,then stick with vento.

suprima s standard is ok right now since they have fixed the oil cooler problem which is the biggest problem in proton turbocharged car. I think suprima s is more spacious than preve cfe. if you want esc and leather seats then get suprima s executive otherwise stick with Preve CFE

The New Persona will be like Iriz. But it is downgraded to B segment.If you desperately want a car right now, then go and buy Suprima S Standard because it is cheaper than preve cfe and suprima S exec

reliable, and dry clutches are very rarely if ever used together in the same sentence....  it's a risk you have to bear if you want such a car...
omaigod why......
Suprima S/preve cfe use the EXACT same interior panels wherever it can be reused.... there is no quality/built dif between the 2
who mentioned downgrade??
b seg = smaller than c seg, thats it
a Myvi with a 7000cc turbo and supercharged engine would still be a B segment

No it will not downgraded its specs but it will downgraded its segment which makes people sad a bit.It is ok Because Overall it will be look like iriz

you have to ask LSM1991 about suprima s and preve cfe because he knows these cars more than me. And he was born in 1991 and he is older than me. I was born in 1997.

lets not think about that first.....
clutchpack itself is around 3-4k if im not mistaken...... if only they sold these cars with the conventional gb

my opinion, vw running the conventional gearboxes are actually pretty decent......

when i asked the otai's in the bmw clubs thats the reply i got haha im just relaying the info 
each person you ask has a different opinion, so up to you to kumpul the info and come up with your own conclusion.... then if you do buy the car and own it for a while, you can reformulate your conclusion based on your own conclusion hehe
hehe yelah... problem is tax tax tax!!..... otherwise my grubby fingers would probably have latched onto a 1jz e36 already ~~ then again did end up with a very pretty  car (at least to me), so no complaints
i cannot say if its important or not haha.....  its something great to have in an emergency..... it might save your life
I personally believe that, if you have good tyres and drive responsibly, its good enough....  you should not be getting yourself in a scenario where you really need vsc to save you but then again, in the back of my head i know that sometimes shit happens whether you like it or not~

me?/ i drive a junk.... old proton-ish car

Digilife and Lsm1991,why are you rejecting me right now?I am going to get Iriz 1.6 mt executive. Is it ok or not?

yes i am looking for hatchback or mpv or sedan but i want the best proton cars in terms of performance,nvh,fuel consumption,handling,suspension,engine wise and others too. thanks

Suprima S is a great car.How about Proton Preve Cfe and Exora CPS and CFE and Iriz mt 1.6 executive?. Iriz mt 1.6 executive kill myvi se off and picanto and maybe vios. What do you think about iriz exec 1.6 mt?my mother's budget is either exora bold mc2 cfe or cps or preve cfe or iriz mt or waja or saga lmst or suprima s standard cfe. wira is a good car but my mom does not want me to buy the same car as someone that she hate the most ABby phang
so wira is out. I am left with exora bold mc2 cfe or cps or preve cfe or iriz mt or waja or saga lmst or suprima s.
The price list of proton cars in miri are here
Proton Iriz Mt 1.3 standard solid-RM43660.00 after rebate 41660.00
Iriz Mt 1.3 met-RM44110.00 after rebate 42110.00
Iriz 1.3 executive mt solid-RM47900 rebate 45900
Iriz 1.3 executive mt met-$48350.00 rebate
46350.00
Iriz 1.6 Manual Executive solid-55330.00 rebate
53330.00
Iriz 1.6 Manual Executive met-55780.00 rebate
53780.00
Preve 1.6 cvt turbo sol-75730.00 70730.00
Preve 1.6 cvt turbo met-76180.00 71180.00
Suprima S turbo cfe sol standard
$72000 70000.00
Suprima St turbo cfe met-72450 70450
Exora sol cps mt-59590.00 57590.00
exora sol cps mt met-60040.00 59040.00
exora cps at sol-62850 60850
exora cps at met-63300 61300
EXORA CFE 1.6 CVT EXEC SOL-69870.00 67870
EXORA CFE 1.6 CVT EXEC MET-70320 68320

Actually they're pretty similar.

2010 Lexus IS250 @ 78k
2010 Toyota Mark X @ 68k

Infact you can see the MX is cheaper than IS by almost 10k. That 10k is for bragging rights you're driving a Lexus 
But seriously the IS still looks better than the MX although they're from the same age.
I don't know about you but the latest models from Lexus too "k-ying" the design even the new IS.

2008 Subaru Legacy - if you're going to bother with difficulty in getting parts or expensive parts when considering about the Kizashi why not consider a Legacy? My advise is to not test drive the car unless you're going to buy it because that turbo power is addictive. In terms of maintenance it would be the most expensive to upkeep if you compare against Honda Accord Euro, Suzuki Kizashi, Lexus IS250 and Toyota Mark X, etc. but of course it has that rarity factor and that superb turbo. Usually people that go for this priorities performance and handling above all else.
The older Swift before the current model?
That one is a pretty decent car.
They sold quite a number of those cars. Maintenance wise parts are easy to find and pretty cheap.
It isn't the most economical of cars to drive, I felt the gear ratio makes it feel slightly sluggish, thus to move faster u floor it and waste more petrol.
Until now I'm not sure what you really want.

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : below 20k
3. New/Used/Unreg : used (please specify at what age you will not consider? older than 2000? older than 1990?)
4. Car type: Minivan MPV M-Segment Car
5. Engine: Petrol/Diesel,1400cc to 1700cc (quite rare for MPV's and cargo carriers to have low cc, this might not be realistic)
6. Specs: Seats fold-able and spacious for moving things (for work usage?)
7. Capacity: more than 5 seats (anything with 7 seats will be in the 2000cc category at least)

1998 Toyota Ipsum - also known as Toyota Picnic or Avensis is an MPV which is just slightly smaller than the Estima. At this time in Toyota's history they didn't have the Toyota Wish yet so this model was slotted more or less into this category. Later on in it's life this model split into two personalities the Toyota Caldina and Toyota Avensis both sportswagons. In terms of parts you don't need to worry since it uses the 3S-FE engine which is the same one in the 1987-1992 Toyota Camry, locally stockist still keep parts for this model. The mechanical parts usually can be sourced from other Toyota models due to Toyota always recycling their parts across their models. About the only thing to worry about getting JDM or rare Toyota's in Malaysia is the bodypanels. Although simple things like bumpers might be easy to find if the car gets into an accident and has broken doors and glass that needs to be replaced then it can get expensive as not all stockist/distributors keep stock for such big ticket items but usually in such big accident you'll either use insurance or write-off the car so I don't think it is a big issue.

1996 Nissan AD Resort - if you're looking for something with lower cc yet spacious with cargo capacity then you may consider this model however it will only have seating capacity for 5 people. Eventhough it is old this is the wagon version of the infamous genting taxi and they're still well supported until now so getting parts for it on the cheap and easily isn't an issue.

well, keep in mind, at the end of the day its a used car....... so well there will be some scratches, some wear and tear, that kind of thing.... you also dont get warranty anymore. Peace of mind is one of the most attractive things about buying a car new (also theres always that new car smell ) *also keep in mind that generally cars that cost more to run/maintain will sell for less on the 2nd hand market*

yes definitely is..... someone else somehow was able to get a loan for a 20 yr old car similar to mine... i dont know what kind of loan, all i know is the interest rate was over 5%.... which from what i understand is alooottt    (i dont know much about loans, cant brain them)