hahahahah i am back, The biggest fan of Proton cars is here.

This post has been edited by andrewyu2005: Jul 18 2016, 03:38 PM

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : 55k Max
3. New/Used/Unreg : New/Used
4. Car type: Any
5. Engine: Any
6. Specs: Any
7. Capacity: Any
8. Transmission: Preferably manual, auto is fine
9. Remark: Hi all sifus, looking for a car that can last 10 years without too much maintenance, mainly city drive, with occasional outstation trips. Currently looking at the below options and not sure which one to go for. Not really a car person, don't know A segment from B segment cars, so interested to know how the driving experience is and what standout features for each. Open to other suggestions as well, if they are better value instead of the below.

Honda Jazz 2013 1.3A Hybrid (http://www.carlist.my/used-cars/2964944/2013-honda-jazz-hybrid-1-4-a-full-service-record.html)
Price at RM 53,800

Proton Inspira 2012 1.8M (http://www.mudah.my/2012+Proton+Inspira+1+8+M+-47141018.htm)
Price at RM 39,800

Perodua Bezza Advance 1.3A
Price at RM 50,800

Appreciate your time and effort to educate noobs like me

Thanks for the input. The skoda superb is a nice car but a bit too uncle for me. Would love a vw, would i be able to afford a used vw golf tsi if i can spend 3k on manitenance per year.

3 completely diferent cars @_@...... not even sure if the bezza is a good long distance vehicle if you carry passangers

just curious... when one says 'maintanance' does that include tax/insurance?

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Jul 19 2016, 09:53 AM

Nope purely technical for me. Would expect at keast rm300 aside monthly for repairs.

Saga 3 coming soon, happy mou?

Honda Jazz is a B-segment. Even though usually I've a preference for Japanese makes because they usually have a good balance between performance, fuel economy and upkeep. I think you might want to skip this particular model. The most excellent model of Jazz is of course the Hybrid with all the accessories, safety features, etc. It is a good car and isn't too expensive in the used car market. However, we don't know whats the long term upkeep of hybrids would be like so for that reason the hybrid is out as you want to keep it for a long time. The current model isn't going to be with that price range yet but don't worry I wouldn't say it would be good for you as it uses a CVT, and long term CVT gearbox upkeep and reliability is still quite sketchy. So to be on the safe side you can look for 2010 Honda Jazz 1.5 which is the model one generation behind the current one which uses a 5 speed conventional automatic gearbox. Looks aside the current one doesn't look like a big upgrade so most people can't tell anyway. There are some issues with this model, although reliability of the engine and gearbox is very good. The 5AT gearbox ratio's isn't quite well mated to the engine thus this generation of Jazz (and City) isn't known for fantastic fuel economy. Outstation trips I would say it is okay if it just you and a partner but it isn't something I'd wanna use to carry 4 adults and luggage to balik kampung further than 100km.

Proton Inspira is a C-segment. I think it's a good compromise in terms of looks, space, economy and functionality. Fuel economy is pretty good. It is relatively cheap to maintain for it's segment. But on reliability side it would be in the same situation as the Jazz as it uses a CVT gearbox, but there is a manual option and manuals are bullet proof would last over 10 years so that's the one you should get.

Perodua Bezza is an A-segment. Basically it is a sedan version of the Axia. Similar cars to it would be like the Mitsubishi Mirage and Attrage. I'm just guessing the Bezza is going to be a long queue so you might want to consider buying a new Mitsubishi Attrage it is also within your RM55k budget since they're running promotions and rebates. We're still getting more information on the Bezza but from what I can see so far the Attrage and Bezza are quite similarly spec'ed except for the Bezza Advance which has ESC (stability control; I think a first in this segment for Malaysia) but that model is above 60k iinm. I wouldn't say it is a good or bad car, I guess for the budget and you want a new car Bezza/Attrage would be it, quite updated in terms of safety technologies too eventhough the Attrage and Bezza (except Advance) lack ESC. It does have an eco certified engine and friends that have been using Mirage say it is a peppy engine and doesn't feel too underpowered except on full load (and to be honest any car on full load feels like crap) but I can't really take it seriously as an outstation car with that small engine. A-segments are best as in-city only cars best not to use on outstation trips.

Sorry, I forgot.
What is your budget range again?

That's good but if my math is correct it should be 3600 per year in that case.
I would say that is C/D-segment money for maintenance there.
But outside workshop, not service center.

Yea. I am the one who PM you regarding repairing parts. that's just tip of the iceberg. LOL so many parts incoming, that already way beyond my threshold.

About the civic, when my parent ask me to buy new car, the new civic ad come out around 1 month la... If I know they offer me change car, early early I go ask for 2.0S lo...

Sob sob. Now city rebate 4k only... aishhh

saga 3 and new Persona are coming to replace Saga flx and Persona

This post has been edited by andrewyu2005: Jul 19 2016, 05:34 PM

my question may not be directly related to this topic. I was thinking to buy a used car (second car) and looking for C or D segment like camry or accord. Perhaps year 2006 and 2008. At the same time I have an option to bring my 16 years old camry from overseas (have AP but obviously need to pay tax, shipping, insurance etc). I just wondering whether it worth to bring this 16 year old car back (no major issues with the car) or simply buy used car in Malaysia.

How much would all the taxes + shipping + insurance + puspakom + JPJ add up to ?

Sometimes sentimental mean everything you knoe

hi guys, Actually i never like proton more than toyota before. Even though i like proton, i was looking down on Most of The current proton cars before . But iriz is the only car that change my feeling towards proton cars.

1. Brand : Any brand except proton, perodua
2. Budget : 40 to 50k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : any
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : Any
7. Type : 4 seater.
8. Remarks : Segment B or C, not more than 6 yrs old, reliable with lower maintenance cost. Good resales value is bonus.

This post has been edited by eric84cool: Jul 20 2016, 08:01 PM

I think Proton iriz is just a good car for you to drive.Proton Iriz 1.3 exec or the new bezza 1.3 litre.Then if you do not want a local car, then get mazda 2(http://www.mudah.my/2012+Mazda+2+15cc+A+-47354780.htm) or honda city (http://www.mudah.my/2011+Honda+City+1+5+A+E+paddle+shif+Modulo+Grill-46625568.htm) or Toyota Vios(http://www.mudah.my/Toyota+Vios+1+5+A+TRD+2011-47336003.htm Sam loo's car)

This post has been edited by andrewyu2005: Jul 20 2016, 09:50 PM

I THINK IT is better for you to buy proton perdana v6(http://www.mudah.my/07+08+Proton+Perdana+2+0+V6+ENHANCE+LAST+BATCH+-46371334.htm).Because Proton Perdana V6 is a very good and cheap and reliable car.Trust me when you get, You do not need camry or accord

hmmm i think its best if you filter it a little more.... many cars will still fit your listed criteria. provide more info, do you like a large car? smaller car? tall car, hatch, sedan, suv? or maybe mention what are your needs e.g. aesthetics, reliability, low running costs, performance, space, safety

note that, good resales value means that you as the buyer is also paying alot more for the car... imo this is only a good thing to have if you buy the car new (or want to own the car short term)

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i almost puked blood reading the replies

oh my god.... the idea of this thread is for asking or recommending cars of a certain criteria..... where is this case ts very clearly mentioned no p1 no p2 AND mentioned NO old cars (the perdana wait what??? that car is so old now)

also... these are D segments... ts mentioned B/C
andrew.. u really need to own the car or at least know the car really well before suddenly commending it
-good car? yes very nice car to sit in at its time
-cheap car? dude... please its not cheap to maintain... infact it is the most expensive proton to maintain of that era (infact it probably costs more to maintain then most current protons).... the v6 is classy and smooth but many cylinders is never nice to the wallet..... i own a 6a12 (sort of) and i can tell you... its expensive to look after
-reliable? the gearbox is well known to be a huge issue (owners install an extra cooler do sort of deal with the issue), engine is like most old japs generally reliable

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Jul 20 2016, 10:37 PM

Thx dude

Prefer sedan , secondly on suv.

Normal usage for daily transport to work. Doesn't need to be very good performances and space good to fit in 4 adults. Priority reliable as I intend to use it for at least 5 years with affordable maintenance cost

shipping, insurance and tax is all cash terms.
do abit of research on this before you commit to set a budget aside.
you can get an idea of the container charges here.
if they didn't take care to ship it over, the car might not be in very good condition when it arrives.

2011 Nissan Latio Sedan 1.6 - you should consider the Nissan Latio over City/Vios because those are high RV cars so you've to pay more for younger cars or to keep it within budget you've to settle for older ones, this particular advert is for a 2011 car (5 years on is still quite okay). In terms of technology it is quite basic like the Vios the engine and gearbox are standard types with nothing fancy to go wrong so it is easier and cheaper to maintain. It should be slightly cheaper to maintain than City because regular gear oil is cheaper than CVT oil. As for space the Latio is a C-segment (or jumbo B-segment if you will) so it gives you more space than Vios/City driving around will be more comfortable for you and passengers.

2013 Nissan X-Gear 1.6 - although it is not a sedan I thought I show you this as it is a very underappreciated car from Nissan thus even for a quite new car it depreciate like a rock but it is actually a pretty good car. It uses the same engine and gearbox as Latio/Livina. Space wise it is bigger than Latio, it is a full size C-segment crossover/wagon. I think for your budget this is a good deal seeing that it is younger too. Tall roof line for tall people or people with long legs/torso.

Luckily my EA2A is using 4G63 and not 6A12
One thing to add, older engines more reliable but fuel economy can't compare with cars today.
280-380 is the normal return for a full tank of gas for my car.

haha in my head was the X gear as well.... was actually pretty impressed when you posted it the last time

you have a EA2A?? wahh very rare car....one of those i really like my car long distance can achieve better than 10kl/L, daily driving in jams, more like 6-7km/L

X-Gear is a good car.
Cheap to maintain like a Toyota with basic drivetrain yet fuel economical and reliable.
Only bad thing is the RV drops like a rock.
Which is good for used car buyers.

Mitsubishi Galant EA2A
Bought it for $4000
Did a few things to it:
1. Lower arms & rack ends = $300
2. Touch screen player with USB and component system for doors = $300
3. New alarm = RM140
and a few other things, well but going to sell it off soon.
Will take some pictures before selling it.

4k!? (not rm??)

i saw the vrg in kl last time wah fantastic, one of the few 4 door cars i actually like.... really really nicely done up... had a 6a13tt but the asking price was abit gila, about 40k....