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post Jun 29 2016, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 29 2016, 06:45 PM)

1. First of all, is your Seller still owing the bank any money? If so, he needs to do a settlement with the bank first. You probably need to make an agreement with him that you write a cheque and get him to settle the bank loan first. Within a week, the car will be ready for transfer.

2. Seller to proceed to Puspakom to have his car checked. He need to provide you with the B5 (for JPJ transfer). This will cost him RM30. Or he can get a runner to do it, add about RM100 (he will bear it all).

3. You need to purchase the insurance for the car. You can use iMoney to get more information on this and compare before going to the insurance agent/office.

4. Bring your Puspakom documents and Insurance cover note and proceed to JPJ to complete the transfer.
a) Both Seller and Buyer must be present. If not, you need to get a commissioner of oaths to verify the absent parties on a Borang Akuan (JPJ-SAB01 and JPJ-SAB02). Write a simple authorization letter for a representative along with photocopies of his identification card.

b) Fill up Borang TM-1 and two copies of JPJ-K3.

c) Transfer costs is borne by the Buyer (i.e. you) and should cost RM100. If you do not have the time, you can hire a runner to do it (add about RM200).

5. Once done, you pay the Seller the rest of the money owed and Seller will hand over the car and keys to you. This can also happen in step 1, depending on your arrangement with your Seller.

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post Jun 29 2016, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(alexhee @ Jun 29 2016, 03:03 PM)
I currently own a manual myvi and I do not have a deep understanding about cars, just the basic concept. What I really have in mind now is IS250(06-07), MK6, Civic 2.0(06-10), Mark X. I am ready to set 5k on maintenance and issues that might arise per year on top of my instalment. I am open to any car that looks a bit sporty and luxury with good handling, fun to drive and reliability(as long I fixed the major issue, it wont come back in short term).

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just wana add a few things,
decide upon what type of car you want first..... do you want a track/ready kind of car or are you looking for a sporty luxury car?
a track ready car would be like the type r, scooby, evo powerful and raw but nothing much going in the comfort/luxury/gizmo department... these cars tend to be less refined (noisy, bumpy suspension, sometimes more difficult to drive). the mark x and the IS250 are more luxury oriented with a powerful heart. they have the performance and can definitely shift if needed but they might seem less..... hectic, less rushed.....

other cars you can look at are;
-euro accord (cl9) (loved the cl7 back then , cl9 with the k series engine seems like more win)
-kizashi (not sure if it is really a sporty powerful car but poped to mind so yeah~)
-something else popped in and ran away.... cannot remember now zzzzzzzz

my opinion is you need to decide on which type of car you want to live with first
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post Jun 29 2016, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 29 2016, 06:28 PM)
Iriz is not a bad car but well you have your own opinion and i have my own opinion.Well we call this democracy car industry.
(http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Suprima+S+1+6+A+Under+Warranty+Must+View-46997240.htm) ok or not. This car is recommend by LSM1991 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkUImsyQcEY
Proton Suprima S. It has a big boot at the back of the car. the Master(Zenix) ask you to get mazda 2 and suzuki swift. Go ahead and get it
(http://www.mudah.my/Suzuki+Swift+1+5+A+KEYLESS+FACELIFT+TIPTOP-46998770.htm)
(http://www.mudah.my/2012+Suzuki+Swift+1+5+A+Keyless+Entry+High+spec+-46487780.htm)
(http://www.mudah.my/2011+Mazda+2+1+5+DOHC+A+SpecialEdition+HatchBack-46640208.htm)
(http://www.mudah.my/2011+Mazda+2+1+5+A+Hatchback+Sport+Full+Service-46241073.htm)
Now is Suzuki Swift vs Mazda 2 vs Proton Suprima S. Which car do you want to choose? it is up to you but of course i really and seriously hope that you will choose suprima s because many people of malaysia look down on suprima s including zenix,digilife and Lsm1991.And i am not joking.
A.Proton Suprima S
B.Mazda 2 hatchback
c)Suzuki Swift
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considering but the price higher than other hmm.gif hmm.gif

QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 29 2016, 06:45 PM)
usually the sales man will always prefer certain banks and certain insurance brands because they get kickbacks/benefits from them.
of course if u ask they'll give u all sorts of bullshit reasons.
Polo Sedan/Hatch iinm stock clearance price would be around RM50k - RM65K.
Both would have ISOFIX seats.
The hatch doesn't have as big a boot for shouldn't be an issue putting a stroller inside, infact putting stuff like stroller in hatches is easier because of the lower tailgate for sedans you've gotta lift it high then drop it in (kills your back), and unless you've got twins and using a twinstroller the hatch would be spacious enough.
Safety wise it is pretty good with 4 airbags, brake assist, ABS, and stability control.
They're both decent cars.
Any reason why these two in particular?
A. These are just additional fancy stuff. I don't think they are critical so it is up to your taste.
B. For me HID is better and brighter. You wanna go aftermarket route a HID kit can cost anywhere from RM250 to RM800.
C. Not really critical I guess, up to your taste.
D. Not really critical I guess, up to your taste.
E. Just my dua sen, I've installed aftermarket ones before and the price can be very cheap. The rear camera price starts from RM50 onwards and a basic player that can play video/mp3/and use the rear camera starts off at RM300 for china brands. So it isn't really that expensive but the quality and installation isn't as good as OEM. The OEM installed camera you can fully 100% trust the guidelines and alignments, for aftermarket installation I guess 70% for cheapo ones and about 95% for real good ones and installer does a good job.
F. I guess basically the important bits are the HID lights and player, so you can think is it better to pay the extra 20k for everything OEM or you wanna do aftermarket route?
G. Not really, for me I don't find any problems with any color. My usual regiment is bringing it to the RM10 car wash once a week. RM50-80 Wax and polish once in 2-3 months. Never had any paint issues.
1. First of all, is your Seller still owing the bank any money? If so, he needs to do a settlement with the bank first. You probably need to make an agreement with him that you write a cheque and get him to settle the bank loan first. Within a week, the car will be ready for transfer.

2. Seller to proceed to Puspakom to have his car checked. He need to provide you with the B5 (for JPJ transfer). This will cost him RM30. Or he can get a runner to do it, add about RM100 (he will bear it all).

3. You need to purchase the insurance for the car. You can use iMoney to get more information on this and compare before going to the insurance agent/office.

4. Bring your Puspakom documents and Insurance cover note and proceed to JPJ to complete the transfer.
a) Both Seller and Buyer must be present. If not, you need to get a commissioner of oaths to verify the absent parties on a Borang Akuan (JPJ-SAB01 and JPJ-SAB02). Write a simple authorization letter for a representative along with photocopies of his identification card.

b) Fill up Borang TM-1 and two copies of JPJ-K3.

c) Transfer costs is borne by the Buyer (i.e. you) and should cost RM100. If you do not have the time, you can hire a runner to do it (add about RM200).

5. Once done, you pay the Seller the rest of the money owed and Seller will hand over the car and keys to you. This can also happen in step 1, depending on your arrangement with your Seller.

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getting my 1st car just start searching so far found this 2 feel ok, now i saw ford fiesta and suprima s the design also quite nice. Any recommend ?
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post Jun 29 2016, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(rainning @ Jun 29 2016, 09:25 PM)
considering but the price higher than other hmm.gif  hmm.gif
getting my 1st car just start searching so far found this 2 feel ok, now i saw ford fiesta and suprima s the design also quite nice. Any recommend ?
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since you say suprima s is nice,Then go ahead and get suprima s because proton suprima s is a great car in terms of handling,suspension,nvh,performance,engine wise and others except fc and build quality and if you can stand with cvt gearbox,then go and get it.Suprima s is a car that you want. Go ahead and take a look at it. Trust me if you get suprima s,you will not get iriz because of its turbo engine and spaciousness.But i am different from you, Because the best proton car ever is iriz because i am more into build quality.you can negotiate suprima s to Rm50000.00 so it is just suitable for your budget. Zenix,please just let him give proton a chance.Because it is the only national car that able to make it on its own.cfe engine car was solved by changing the oil cooler from rubber to metal.Suprima s is no longer a milo tin car but 5 star rating safety car.

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post Jun 29 2016, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 28 2016, 02:15 PM)
how about national car? you have not tried it yet. For your information, i think that iriz 1.3-1.6 exec and standard or premium mt is a car that you have to get because a lot of people like it including paultan praise this car highly.
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Im looking into D segment car.
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post Jun 29 2016, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(YJSEE @ Jun 29 2016, 11:57 PM)
Im looking into D segment car.
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Do not get the new perdana.As for b segment, Proton Iriz is way better than kia picanto,Overated Axia,Kia rio,hyundai i10 and Overated myvi and vios and nissan almera too .Get iriz over toyota vios.for d segment,Please go and get Nissan teana and Toyota Camry.Do not get honda accord because it is expensive.I advised you to get teana thanks.if you want cvt for b segment, then go for proton iriz cvt but it still not the most perfect gearbox because it still a little bit noisy but it is still way better than Honda Jazz and Suzuki Swift and Honda City in terms of handling,suspension,performance,ride,safety and others except the gearbox.Get Nissan teana for your budget . My favourite b segment car is Proton Iriz because it has defeated myvi,axia,jazz,vios,Almera and City. THE KING OF B SEGMENT CAR IN MALAYSIA IS PROTON IRIZ.THE KING OF C SEGMENT CAR IN MALAYSIA IS PROTON PREVE CFE.THE KING OF D SEGMENT CAR IS NISSAN TEANA. THE KING OF MPV IN MALAYSIA IS DEFINITELY PROTON EXORA.THE KING OF A SEGMENT CAR IN MALAYSIA IS KIA RIO AND HYUNDAI I10.the only 4 wheel drive that i like the most in malaysia is Toyota Fortuner.

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post Jun 30 2016, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 29 2016, 07:07 PM)
Lexus IS250 & Toyota Mark X- both use 4GR-FSE engine but the Mark X has a better use with slightly better HP & Torque, nice highway cruiser can go 160kmh at 2500rpm, is quite fuel efficient however maybe gearing on the IS250 felt abit lazy on pickup unless you floor it.
VW MK6 TSI - has TSI engine failure and DSG gearbox failure issues, better skip.
Civic - best overall in terms of performance and maintenance, but if you take the 2006 model it is REALLY old.
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Thank you for the recommendation. Seems like Mark X and IS250 are the better fit for me. However for Mark X, i cant seem to find a good price range, those are newer costs more than 120k, and cheaper one are just too old, about 60k. IS250 looks much better (http://www.mudah.my/2010+Lexus+IS+250+2+5+A+IS250+SUNROOF+CBU+HISPEC-46438295.htm). Is there anything particular that I need to take notice on IS250 when testing out the car? And maintenance + reliability are quite ok right?


QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 29 2016, 08:04 PM)
just wana add a few things,
decide upon what type of car you want first..... do you want a track/ready kind of car or are you looking for a sporty luxury car?
a track ready car would be like the type r, scooby, evo powerful and raw but nothing much going in the comfort/luxury/gizmo department... these cars tend to be less refined (noisy, bumpy suspension, sometimes more difficult to drive). the mark x and the IS250 are more luxury oriented with a powerful heart. they have the performance and can definitely shift if needed but they might seem less..... hectic, less rushed.....

other cars you can look at are;
-euro accord (cl9) (loved the cl7 back then , cl9 with the k series engine seems like more win)
-kizashi (not sure if it is really a sporty powerful car but poped to mind so yeah~)
-something else popped in and ran away.... cannot remember now zzzzzzzz

my opinion is you need to decide on which type of car you want to live with first
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Thanks for the suggestion I never come across Cl9 and kizashi before, when I look it up in mudah, kizashi looks good, but it seems pretty rare, the parts must be quite expensive i assume? IS250 probably the one that I will go for. Is there anything that I need to take note upon testing out the car?

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 29 2016, 06:45 PM)

Polo Sedan/Hatch iinm stock clearance price would be around RM50k - RM65K.
Both would have ISOFIX seats.
The hatch doesn't have as big a boot for shouldn't be an issue putting a stroller inside, infact putting stuff like stroller in hatches is easier because of the lower tailgate for sedans you've gotta lift it high then drop it in (kills your back), and unless you've got twins and using a twinstroller the hatch would be spacious enough.

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ok thanks but how about suzuki swift? the one with the normal auto gearbox non cvt. Are they worth it?

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QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 30 2016, 04:18 AM)
ok thanks but how about suzuki swift? the one with the normal auto gearbox non cvt. Are they worth it?
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Just get it if you want thanks.
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QUOTE(alexhee @ Jun 30 2016, 01:56 AM)
Thank you for the recommendation. Seems like Mark X and IS250 are the better fit for me. However for Mark X, i cant seem to find a good price range, those are newer costs more than 120k, and cheaper one are just too old, about 60k. IS250 looks much better (http://www.mudah.my/2010+Lexus+IS+250+2+5+A+IS250+SUNROOF+CBU+HISPEC-46438295.htm). Is there anything particular that I need to take notice on IS250 when testing out the car? And maintenance + reliability are quite ok right? 
Thanks for the suggestion I never come across Cl9 and kizashi before, when I look it up in mudah, kizashi looks good, but it seems pretty rare, the parts must be quite expensive i assume? IS250 probably the one that I will go for. Is there anything that I need to take note upon testing out the car?
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Is250 is toyota car even though it is classified as lexus car so you should not have problem with reliability.my aunt is using rx 300 and so far there is only minor problem with lexus rx300.Overall lexus is250 is a great luxurious car unless if you want a c segment car then ,get preve cfe because it beat altis.

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1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : <20k
3. New/Used/Unreg : used, not too old
4. Car type: Minivan MPV M-Segment Car
5. Engine: Petrol/Diesel,1400cc to 1700cc
6. Specs: Seats fold-able and spacious (for moving things)
7. Capacity: more than 5 seats
8. Transmission: Auto

any recommendation?

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jun 30 2016, 09:06 AM)
1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : <20k
3. New/Used/Unreg : used, not too old
4. Car type: Minivan MPV M-Segment Car
5. Engine: Petrol/Diesel,1400cc to 1700cc
6. Specs: Seats fold-able and spacious (for moving things)
7. Capacity: more than 5 seats

any recommendation?
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Nissan Vanette maybe?
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post Jun 30 2016, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Jun 29 2016, 07:10 PM)
what about Kangoo, Berlingo and similar comparison?
what would you recommend along that route of selections?
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There are plenty of older and good conti MPV's however it really depends on your mindset.
Some people don't mind buying conti knowing that it is cheap because RV sucks but the parts are still expensive.
Some people mind because they think doing replacement for parts like bushings and mounting already 1/3 the price paid for the used car.
However, if you find one in good condition and don't mind parts being more expensive than Japanese cars I can show you a few good options.

QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 29 2016, 07:13 PM)
the new persona will be classified as a b segment  car for more information which iriz is classified as.
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since it is not launched yet how do you know?
paul tan told you?

QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 29 2016, 07:16 PM)
TS, pls pin this on Post#2
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 29 2016, 07:48 PM)
rclxms.gif all the goodly info here!
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I modified abit from his post, looks like he was an insurance runner laugh.gif

QUOTE(rainning @ Jun 29 2016, 08:25 PM)
considering but the price higher than other hmm.gif  hmm.gif
getting my 1st car just start searching so far found this 2 feel ok, now i saw ford fiesta and suprima s the design also quite nice. Any recommend ?
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Okay, looking for a first car I know your mind is going wild trying to get the best deal possible.
Let me share with you something from experience.
Get a new/used car which is popular and cheap to maintain, e.g. Perodua Axia/Myvi (new) or Nissan Latio/X-Gear (used).
This is because it will help ease you unto car ownership.
It is not just about paying to the month that 5/7/9 years loan you took.
There is also schedule maintenance, fuel cost, regular upkeep, consumable parts replacement, roadtax/insurance, etc.
All this will catch you unawares if you stretch yourself too much for the monthly repayment just to get something which you may like.
Try holding out for something you like when you're abit more experience with cars.

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 30 2016, 09:20 AM)
However, if you find one in good condition and don't mind parts being more expensive than Japanese cars I can show you a few good options.
Have to open mind to conti also, cause jap mpv limited, kindly share... notworthy.gif

1. Brand : Any, prefer japs
2. Budget : <20k
3. New/Used/Unreg : used, not too old
4. Car type: Minivan MPV M-Segment Car
5. Engine: Petrol/Diesel,1400cc to 1700cc
6. Specs: Seats fold-able and spacious (for moving things)
7. Capacity: more than 5 seat
8. Transmission: Auto

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 29 2016, 06:45 PM)
A. These are just additional fancy stuff. I don't think they are critical so it is up to your taste.
B. For me HID is better and brighter. You wanna go aftermarket route a HID kit can cost anywhere from RM250 to RM800.
C. Not really critical I guess, up to your taste.
D. Not really critical I guess, up to your taste.
E. Just my dua sen, I've installed aftermarket ones before and the price can be very cheap. The rear camera price starts from RM50 onwards and a basic player that can play video/mp3/and use the rear camera starts off at RM300 for china brands. So it isn't really that expensive but the quality and installation isn't as good as OEM. The OEM installed camera you can fully 100% trust the guidelines and alignments, for aftermarket installation I guess 70% for cheapo ones and about 95% for real good ones and installer does a good job.
F. I guess basically the important bits are the HID lights and player, so you can think is it better to pay the extra 20k for everything OEM or you wanna do aftermarket route?
G. Not really, for me I don't find any problems with any color. My usual regiment is bringing it to the RM10 car wash once a week. RM50-80 Wax and polish once in 2-3 months. Never had any paint issues.
E. So if would like to get accurate reverse guidelines, need to get OEM reverse camera and install in Toyota? Does it need the OEM player also?
G. A good suggestion. Btw do you have any comment for coating? Does it help? Especially for used car.
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QUOTE(nelsonmui87 @ Jun 30 2016, 09:46 AM)
E. So if would like to get accurate reverse guidelines, need to get OEM reverse camera and install in Toyota? Does it need the OEM player also?
G. A good suggestion. Btw do you have any comment for coating? Does it help? Especially for used car.
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E. no there is no need for the oem player. Any headunit with the appropriate resolution would do (cheapo cameras are really cheapo, the usual advertised 170 degree viewing angle is all lies~~)
G. oh wai i also wana know.... todei i found 2 more scratches (or more like chips) on my front bumper bangwall.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif


QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 30 2016, 10:09 AM)
King of B segment cars in malaysia is Iriz not mazda 2
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what in the world are you replying to... omaigod...... doh.gif

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QUOTE(alexhee @ Jun 30 2016, 12:56 AM)
Thank you for the recommendation. Seems like Mark X and IS250 are the better fit for me. However for Mark X, i cant seem to find a good price range, those are newer costs more than 120k, and cheaper one are just too old, about 60k. IS250 looks much better (http://www.mudah.my/2010+Lexus+IS+250+2+5+A+IS250+SUNROOF+CBU+HISPEC-46438295.htm). Is there anything particular that I need to take notice on IS250 when testing out the car? And maintenance + reliability are quite ok right? 
Thanks for the suggestion I never come across Cl9 and kizashi before, when I look it up in mudah, kizashi looks good, but it seems pretty rare, the parts must be quite expensive i assume? IS250 probably the one that I will go for. Is there anything that I need to take note upon testing out the car?
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Actually they're pretty similar.

2010 Lexus IS250 @ 78k
2010 Toyota Mark X @ 68k

Infact you can see the MX is cheaper than IS by almost 10k. That 10k is for bragging rights you're driving a Lexus brows.gif
But seriously the IS still looks better than the MX although they're from the same age.
I don't know about you but the latest models from Lexus too "k-ying" the design even the new IS.

2008 Subaru Legacy - if you're going to bother with difficulty in getting parts or expensive parts when considering about the Kizashi why not consider a Legacy? My advise is to not test drive the car unless you're going to buy it because that turbo power is addictive. In terms of maintenance it would be the most expensive to upkeep if you compare against Honda Accord Euro, Suzuki Kizashi, Lexus IS250 and Toyota Mark X, etc. but of course it has that rarity factor and that superb turbo. Usually people that go for this priorities performance and handling above all else.

QUOTE(Drian @ Jun 30 2016, 03:18 AM)
ok thanks but how about suzuki swift? the one with the normal auto gearbox non cvt. Are they worth it?
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The older Swift before the current model?
That one is a pretty decent car.
They sold quite a number of those cars. Maintenance wise parts are easy to find and pretty cheap.
It isn't the most economical of cars to drive, I felt the gear ratio makes it feel slightly sluggish, thus to move faster u floor it and waste more petrol.

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Until now I'm not sure what you really want.

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : below 20k
3. New/Used/Unreg : used (please specify at what age you will not consider? older than 2000? older than 1990?)
4. Car type: Minivan MPV M-Segment Car
5. Engine: Petrol/Diesel,1400cc to 1700cc (quite rare for MPV's and cargo carriers to have low cc, this might not be realistic)
6. Specs: Seats fold-able and spacious for moving things (for work usage?)
7. Capacity: more than 5 seats (anything with 7 seats will be in the 2000cc category at least)

1998 Toyota Ipsum - also known as Toyota Picnic or Avensis is an MPV which is just slightly smaller than the Estima. At this time in Toyota's history they didn't have the Toyota Wish yet so this model was slotted more or less into this category. Later on in it's life this model split into two personalities the Toyota Caldina and Toyota Avensis both sportswagons. In terms of parts you don't need to worry since it uses the 3S-FE engine which is the same one in the 1987-1992 Toyota Camry, locally stockist still keep parts for this model. The mechanical parts usually can be sourced from other Toyota models due to Toyota always recycling their parts across their models. About the only thing to worry about getting JDM or rare Toyota's in Malaysia is the bodypanels. Although simple things like bumpers might be easy to find if the car gets into an accident and has broken doors and glass that needs to be replaced then it can get expensive as not all stockist/distributors keep stock for such big ticket items but usually in such big accident you'll either use insurance or write-off the car so I don't think it is a big issue.

1996 Nissan AD Resort - if you're looking for something with lower cc yet spacious with cargo capacity then you may consider this model however it will only have seating capacity for 5 people. Eventhough it is old this is the wagon version of the infamous genting taxi and they're still well supported until now so getting parts for it on the cheap and easily isn't an issue.

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 30 2016, 11:16 AM)
E. no there is no need for the oem player. Any headunit with the appropriate resolution would do (cheapo cameras are really cheapo, the usual advertised 170 degree viewing angle is all lies~~)
G. oh wai i also wana know.... todei i found 2 more scratches (or more like chips) on my front bumper  bangwall.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
what in the world are you replying to... omaigod...... doh.gif
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i am talking to all of you right now. the answer for malaysia to buy the best national car is Proton Iriz. It is way better than Mazda 2,Nissan Almera,Toyota Vios,Preve,Perodua Myvi, Perodua Axia, Honda Jazz, Honda CIty,Proton Saga Flx, Proton Suprima S and Kia rio and picanto and Hyundai i10.Hater Of Proton have to accept iriz beat their vios,city and other b segment car because it is the king of b segment car. rclxm9.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 30 2016, 11:23 AM)
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Actually they're pretty similar.

2010 Lexus IS250 @ 78k
2010 Toyota Mark X @ 68k

Infact you can see the MX is cheaper than IS by almost 10k. That 10k is for bragging rights you're driving a Lexus  brows.gif
But seriously the IS still looks better than the MX although they're from the same age.
I don't know about you but the latest models from Lexus too "k-ying" the design even the new IS.

2008 Subaru Legacy - if you're going to bother with difficulty in getting parts or expensive parts when considering about the Kizashi why not consider a Legacy? My advise is to not test drive the car unless you're going to buy it because that turbo power is addictive. In terms of maintenance it would be the most expensive to upkeep if you compare against Honda Accord Euro, Suzuki Kizashi, Lexus IS250 and Toyota Mark X, etc. but of course it has that rarity factor and that superb turbo. Usually people that go for this priorities performance and handling above all else.
The older Swift before the current model?
That one is a pretty decent car.
They sold quite a number of those cars. Maintenance wise parts are easy to find and pretty cheap.
It isn't the most economical of cars to drive, I felt the gear ratio makes it feel slightly sluggish, thus to move faster u floor it and waste more petrol.
Until now I'm not sure what you really want.

1. Brand : Any
2. Budget : below 20k
3. New/Used/Unreg : used (please specify at what age you will not consider? older than 2000? older than 1990?)
4. Car type: Minivan MPV M-Segment Car
5. Engine: Petrol/Diesel,1400cc to 1700cc (quite rare for MPV's and cargo carriers to have low cc, this might not be realistic)
6. Specs: Seats fold-able and spacious for moving things (for work usage?)
7. Capacity: more than 5 seats (anything with 7 seats will be in the 2000cc category at least)

1998 Toyota Ipsum - also known as Toyota Picnic or Avensis is an MPV which is just slightly smaller than the Estima. At this time in Toyota's history they didn't have the Toyota Wish yet so this model was slotted more or less into this category. Later on in it's life this model split into two personalities the Toyota Caldina and Toyota Avensis both sportswagons. In terms of parts you don't need to worry since it uses the 3S-FE engine which is the same one in the 1987-1992 Toyota Camry, locally stockist still keep parts for this model. The mechanical parts usually can be sourced from other Toyota models due to Toyota always recycling their parts across their models. About the only thing to worry about getting JDM or rare Toyota's in Malaysia is the bodypanels. Although simple things like bumpers might be easy to find if the car gets into an accident and has broken doors and glass that needs to be replaced then it can get expensive as not all stockist/distributors keep stock for such big ticket items but usually in such big accident you'll either use insurance or write-off the car so I don't think it is a big issue.

1996 Nissan AD Resort - if you're looking for something with lower cc yet spacious with cargo capacity then you may consider this model however it will only have seating capacity for 5 people. Eventhough it is old this is the wagon version of the infamous genting taxi and they're still well supported until now so getting parts for it on the cheap and easily isn't an issue.
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WTF man , i did not realise before that the second hand prices for THESE CARS are AFFORDABLE. GEEZ its cheaper than a NEW VENTO. God damn, need to do research again. lets say 65-75k how much monthly do you reckon for a 7/9 years installment?

andrewyu2005
post Jun 30 2016, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(dark90 @ Jun 30 2016, 11:28 AM)
WTF man , i did not realise before that the second hand prices for THESE CARS are AFFORDABLE. GEEZ its cheaper than a NEW VENTO. God damn, need to do research again. lets say 65-75k how much monthly do you reckon for a 7/9 years installment?
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ok i know man,Yes Lexus Is 250 is a great car. Can you please just let he test his favourite car? thanks

This post has been edited by andrewyu2005: Jun 30 2016, 10:38 AM

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