E. So if would like to get accurate reverse guidelines, need to get OEM reverse camera and install in Toyota? Does it need the OEM player also?
G. A good suggestion. Btw do you have any comment for coating? Does it help? Especially for used car.

WTF man , i did not realise before that the second hand prices for THESE CARS are AFFORDABLE. GEEZ its cheaper than a NEW VENTO. God damn, need to do research again. lets say 65-75k how much monthly do you reckon for a 7/9 years installment?

Don't bother it is a scam 
No harm in paying for it if you like it but i wouldn't bother.
Save the money and repaint the car better 

E. Any player that accepts video input will do.

Cheapo reverse camera, need to adjust the angles manually, over time the thing gets loose and angles all kaput.
Also during installation they gotta drill some holes and sometimes the installation can be poor quality and ugly.


Factory fitted ones have no moving parts and are perfect fit and aligned for your car model.


G. Don't bother it is a scam 
No harm in paying for it if you like it but i wouldn't bother.
Save the money and repaint the car better 

WTF man , i did not realise before that the second hand prices for THESE CARS are AFFORDABLE. GEEZ its cheaper than a NEW VENTO. God damn, need to do research again. lets say 65-75k how much monthly do you reckon for a 7/9 years installment?

well, keep in mind, at the end of the day its a used car....... so well there will be some scratches, some wear and tear, that kind of thing.... you also dont get warranty anymore. Peace of mind is one of the most attractive things about buying a car new (also theres always that new car smell ) *also keep in mind that generally cars that cost more to run/maintain will sell for less on the 2nd hand market*

well, keep in mind, at the end of the day its a used car....... so well there will be some scratches, some wear and tear, that kind of thing.... you also dont get warranty anymore. Peace of mind is one of the most attractive things about buying a car new (also theres always that new car smell ) *also keep in mind that generally cars that cost more to run/maintain will sell for less on the 2nd hand market*
ahh well... than my current plan is good enough.... every 3 years repaint if nessasary~

Well.. that logic works too, but if i'm not mistaken the interest rate for used car is much much higher, no?

yes definitely is..... someone else somehow was able to get a loan for a 20 yr old car similar to mine... i dont know what kind of loan, all i know is the interest rate was over 5%.... which from what i understand is alooottt    (i dont know much about loans, cant brain them)

coating cost start from RM500 onwards and if you get bamboozled it can be RM1500 
can pay for a repaint oredi 

yes definitely is..... someone else somehow was able to get a loan for a 20 yr old car similar to mine... i dont know what kind of loan, all i know is the interest rate was over 5%.... which from what i understand is alooottt    (i dont know much about loans, cant brain them)

Well.. that logic works too, but if i'm not mistaken the interest rate for used car is much much higher, no?

yes definitely is..... someone else somehow was able to get a loan for a 20 yr old car similar to mine... i dont know what kind of loan, all i know is the interest rate was over 5%.... which from what i understand is alooottt    (i dont know much about loans, cant brain them)

ehh 1.5k can kaotim?? hmm mine maybe ade banyak door dings to deal with, and fiber work, been quoted around 3.6k luar shj so im budgeting 5k to get it done nicely 1 shot....

E. no there is no need for the oem player. Any headunit with the appropriate resolution would do (cheapo cameras are really cheapo, the usual advertised 170 degree viewing angle is all lies~~)
G. oh wai i also wana know.... todei i found 2 more scratches (or more like chips) on my front bumper   
what in the world are you replying to... omaigod......

E. Any player that accepts video input will do.

Cheapo reverse camera, need to adjust the angles manually, over time the thing gets loose and angles all kaput.
Also during installation they gotta drill some holes and sometimes the installation can be poor quality and ugly.


Factory fitted ones have no moving parts and are perfect fit and aligned for your car model.


G. Don't bother it is a scam 
No harm in paying for it if you like it but i wouldn't bother.
Save the money and repaint the car better 

I was approached by a toyota sales man. they say toyota got their own bank can loan from them.. not sure how or what the process is, just want to confirm is this true? zenix

E. Any advise where could I get more reliable reverse camera? Prefer those no need drill one...
I am worry after drill if change next camera will it be a problem.

G. Yes, I found if running on highway frequently, even new car will get lots of stone chip easily...
Thinking how to prevent in this case    
Thanks bro. In this case will prefer factory fitted one... Because previous car is exactly like what you mentioned, after drill the work is not nice and need worry for future camera replacement.
Actually i am thinking to get a reliable camera with guideline, my previous guideline totally doesn't work.
So guideline is actually produce in camera not player, right?

Erm... so your usually repaint every few years? After repaint any impact?

I share what i know first.
UMW toyota malaysia got Toyota Captial for financial service.
http://www.toyotacapital.com.my/

So suppose is true.

There are plenty of older and good conti MPV's however it really depends on your mindset.
Some people don't mind buying conti knowing that it is cheap because RV sucks but the parts are still expensive.
Some people mind because they think doing replacement for parts like bushings and mounting already 1/3 the price paid for the used car.
However, if you find one in good condition and don't mind parts being more expensive than Japanese cars I can show you a few good options.
since it is not launched yet how do you know?
paul tan told you?

I modified abit from his post, looks like he was an insurance runner 
Okay, looking for a first car I know your mind is going wild trying to get the best deal possible.
Let me share with you something from experience.
Get a new/used car which is popular and cheap to maintain, e.g. Perodua Axia/Myvi (new) or Nissan Latio/X-Gear (used).
This is because it will help ease you unto car ownership.
It is not just about paying to the month that 5/7/9 years loan you took.
There is also schedule maintenance, fuel cost, regular upkeep, consumable parts replacement, roadtax/insurance, etc.
All this will catch you unawares if you stretch yourself too much for the monthly repayment just to get something which you may like.
Try holding out for something you like when you're abit more experience with cars.

Thanks zenix , thanks for you advise.

I am going to get proton iriz 1.6 exec manual transmission because it defeat nissan almera,honda jazz,city and toyota vios and myvi and axia.Is it ok or not?

Sure bro just go ahead, since you already make your decision  .
i still thinking ,try to get win win car - fair price and low maintenance