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lsm1991
post Jun 30 2016, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 30 2016, 12:36 PM)
do you think iriz 1.6  exec mt beat vios,almera,myvi and axia and honda city and jazz and mazda 2 and kia rio and kia picanto  and hyundai  i10.in terms of performance,handling,suspension,nvh and others
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omaigod.... x habis habis....
1)it is not for us to decide for you, we have already told you what we feel about it.....
2)lol compared up against these 3? they are in a completely different price range/category from the honda city, jazz and mazda 2... this is again like paultan comparing the axia with the iris.... heck why not compare the iris with a bmw since our ministers say, and i quote "Proton is on par with other premium vehicle brands like BMW"
3)if u want 100% (or 99%) positive feedback go ask paul tan (he has an account here in lyf pls go pm him)

now... u keep asking which is best... i have said once and for all i would pick the suprima given that you dont take price into consideration....
the only cons of the suprima compared to the iris i can think of are:
+ price - u never mentioned a price range so scratch this, not a con for you
+ larger size - useless drivers would have issues navigating the larger car into parking lots
+ maintanance costs - technically has a turbo, turbos needs to be serviced sometime later on. Also more exp tyres

now about performance... The satria neo which in my opinion is already not a fast car, just decent performer is faster than the iris... so in my honest opinion the iris has a lackluster engine (not that the fc is really that great)
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post Jun 30 2016, 01:27 PM

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lel. andrew you should really go for a test drive and see for yourself hows the handling and everything. See for yourself hows the handling in Iriz kia, or Vios.
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post Jun 30 2016, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 30 2016, 02:24 PM)
omaigod.... x habis habis....
1)it is not for us to decide for you, we have already told you what we feel about it.....
2)lol compared up against these 3? they are in a completely different price range/category from the honda city, jazz and mazda 2... this is again like paultan comparing the axia with the iris.... heck why not compare the iris with a bmw since our ministers say, and i quote "Proton is on par with other premium vehicle brands like BMW"
3)if u want 100% (or 99%) positive feedback go ask paul tan (he has an account here in lyf pls go pm him)

now... u keep asking which is best... i have said once and for all i would pick the suprima given that you dont take price into consideration....
the only cons of the suprima compared to the iris i can think of are:
+ price - u never mentioned a price range so scratch this, not a con for you
+ larger size - useless drivers would have issues navigating the larger car into parking lots
+ maintanance costs - technically has a turbo, turbos needs to be serviced sometime later on. Also more exp tyres

now about performance... The satria neo which in my opinion is already not a fast car, just decent performer is faster than the iris... so in my honest opinion the iris has a lackluster engine (not that the fc is really that great)
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since you say like that,.Lets hope that proton preve cfe,exora cfe,Iriz vvt and Suprima S can change the people's perspective about proton. Syed Zainal Abidin is a great man and look at proton right now.They have fixed the oil cooler which is the biggest problem in the history of proton from rubber to metal which is the most important things to the people of Malaysia.I would have picked Suprima S CFE but i have to see other people's perspective about proton iriz,exora cfe,suprima s cfe and Preve CFE. Thanks Lsm1991.

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post Jun 30 2016, 02:36 PM

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1. Brand : Any Brand
2. Budget : 50-60K
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : 2.0
5. Transmission : AT
6. NA or FI : NA
7. Type : SUV
8. Remarks : The spec shd b reliable and less issue as using by old folk only for outstation driving.

I'm looking for a SUV type of used car. That car will be utilized by old folk which main usage is for long distance journeys. Their mileage of using is about 8K per year.

Hope our forumers able to provide some advise for which brand are worth to choose. Currently been survey for Honda CRV 2007-2009 & Hyundai Tucson 2011-2012 which cost 60K ++.

My dilemma is to choose between them. But if got other choices will consider it as well. So far, I've been heard Honda CRV for year 2007-2009 are quite good condition and seldom got any issue except it hydraulic pump which need to change after 80-100K mileage of using. For Hyundai Tuscon 2011-2012, I do not have any feedback yet but due to it is a CBU unit so afraid the repairing cost will quite high due to their spare parts hardly to find.

I'd appreciate any feedback from fellow forumers who able to provide me some precious advise about any SUV worth to own and with regards to ride, handling, comfort, reliability, maintenance fees, fuel consumption, etc for the Honda CRV 2007-2009 and Hyundai Tuscon 2011-2012. Most importantly, which car brand is the cheapest to maintain?

Thanks.

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post Jun 30 2016, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(jnhh @ Jun 30 2016, 03:36 PM)
1. Brand : Any Brand
2. Budget : 50-60K
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : 2.0
5. Transmission : AT
6. NA or FI :  NA
7. Type : SUV
8. Remarks : The spec shd b reliable and less issue as using by old folk only for outstation driving.

I'm looking for a SUV type of used car. That car will be utilized by old folk which main usage is for long distance journeys. Their mileage of using is about 8K per year.

Hope our forumers able to provide some advise for which brand are worth to choose. Currently been survey for Honda CRV 2007-2009 & Hyundai Tucson 2011-2012 which cost 60K ++.

My dilemma is to choose between them. But if got other choices will consider it as well. So far, I've been heard Honda CRV for year 2007-2009 are quite good condition and seldom got any issue except it hydraulic pump which need to change after 80-100K mileage of using. For Hyundai Tuscon 2011-2012, I do not have any feedback yet but due to it is a CBU unit so afraid the repairing cost will quite high due to their spare parts hardly to find.

I'd appreciate any feedback from fellow forumers who able to provide me some precious advise about any SUV worth to own and with regards to ride, handling, comfort, reliability, maintenance fees, fuel consumption, etc for the Honda CRV 2007-2009 and Hyundai Tuscon 2011-2012. Most importantly, which car brand is the cheapest to maintain?

Thanks.
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If you have to choose between Honda and Hyundai it should be Honda. Not sure tho, need to ask other sifus.
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post Jun 30 2016, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(jnhh @ Jun 30 2016, 03:36 PM)
1. Brand : Any Brand
2. Budget : 50-60K
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : 2.0
5. Transmission : AT
6. NA or FI :  NA
7. Type : SUV
8. Remarks : The spec shd b reliable and less issue as using by old folk only for outstation driving.

I'm looking for a SUV type of used car. That car will be utilized by old folk which main usage is for long distance journeys. Their mileage of using is about 8K per year.

Hope our forumers able to provide some advise for which brand are worth to choose. Currently been survey for Honda CRV 2007-2009 & Hyundai Tucson 2011-2012 which cost 60K ++.

My dilemma is to choose between them. But if got other choices will consider it as well. So far, I've been heard Honda CRV for year 2007-2009 are quite good condition and seldom got any issue except it hydraulic pump which need to change after 80-100K mileage of using. For Hyundai Tuscon 2011-2012, I do not have any feedback yet but due to it is a CBU unit so afraid the repairing cost will quite high due to their spare parts hardly to find.

I'd appreciate any feedback from fellow forumers who able to provide me some precious advise about any SUV worth to own and with regards to ride, handling, comfort, reliability, maintenance fees, fuel consumption, etc for the Honda CRV 2007-2009 and Hyundai Tuscon 2011-2012. Most importantly, which car brand is the cheapest to maintain?

Thanks.
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if you really want a car that is good. then pick honda crv 2009 over hyundai tucson.
(http://www.mudah.my/2009+Honda+CR+V+2+0+A+i+vtec+CRV+Facelift+4WD-46581203.htm)
(http://www.mudah.my/2009+Honda+CR+V+2+0+A+CRV+LEATHER+SEAT+LIKE+NEW-46880956.htm)

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post Jun 30 2016, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(jnhh @ Jun 30 2016, 02:36 PM)
1. Brand : Any Brand
2. Budget : 50-60K
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used
4. Specs : 2.0
5. Transmission : AT
6. NA or FI :  NA
7. Type : SUV
8. Remarks : The spec shd b reliable and less issue as using by old folk only for outstation driving.

I'm looking for a SUV type of used car. That car will be utilized by old folk which main usage is for long distance journeys. Their mileage of using is about 8K per year.

Hope our forumers able to provide some advise for which brand are worth to choose. Currently been survey for Honda CRV 2007-2009 & Hyundai Tucson 2011-2012 which cost 60K ++.

My dilemma is to choose between them. But if got other choices will consider it as well. So far, I've been heard Honda CRV for year 2007-2009 are quite good condition and seldom got any issue except it hydraulic pump which need to change after 80-100K mileage of using. For Hyundai Tuscon 2011-2012, I do not have any feedback yet but due to it is a CBU unit so afraid the repairing cost will quite high due to their spare parts hardly to find.

I'd appreciate any feedback from fellow forumers who able to provide me some precious advise about any SUV worth to own and with regards to ride, handling, comfort, reliability, maintenance fees, fuel consumption, etc for the Honda CRV 2007-2009 and Hyundai Tuscon 2011-2012. Most importantly, which car brand is the cheapest to maintain?

Thanks.
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Vehicles that fit the bill perfectly.
Honda CRV (from your pick)
-its found everywhere on our roads, parts are no issue all in all, a proven car.
Nissan X-Trail
-also a solid car, less common but reliable nonetheless

vehicles that kinda miss it by abit (this bunch are on the luxurious side)
Nissan Murano
-nice car, only issue? 2.5L tax~
Harrier
-also a nice car BUT the older 2.2L models are pretty old and looking abit dated now and the newer 2.5L models are nicer looking but cost quite abit more (correction, newer models are 2.4 not 2.5)

+both cars are very reliable and are basically mechanically speaking, bulletproof... luxury cars
-both cars do drink fuel rolling around in town

cars that i dont think you should consider BUT because i like to pop up with silly ideas that only appeal to me, let me throw in these 2 (jangan marah saya, i just really like these 2)
Toyota Caldina
Mitsubishi Airtrek
+both are 2.0L turbo vehicles, both very powerful, both sport oriented
+both share many parts in its others in their respective families....
-unfortunately they can cost abit to maintain cause... power and budget never go hand in hand
-yeah turbos~ u did mention na but i like power

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post Jun 30 2016, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 30 2016, 05:11 PM)
Vehicles that fit the bill perfectly.
Honda CRV (from your pick)
-its found everywhere on our roads, parts are no issue all in all, a proven car.
Nissan X-Trail
-also a solid car, less common but reliable nonetheless

vehicles that kinda miss it by abit (this bunch are on the luxurious side)
Nissan Murano
-nice car, only issue? 2.5L tax~
Harrier
-also a nice car BUT the older 2.2L models are pretty old and looking abit dated now and the newer 2.5L models are nicer looking but cost quite abit more

+both cars are very reliable and are basically mechanically speaking, bulletproof... luxury cars
-both cars do drink fuel rolling around in town

cars that i dont think you should consider BUT because i like to pop up with silly ideas that only appeal to me, let me throw in these 2 (jangan marah saya, i just really like these 2)
Toyota Caldina
Mitsubishi Airtrek
+both are 2.0L turbo vehicles, both very powerful, both sport oriented
+both share many parts in its others in their respective families....
-unfortunately they can cost abit to maintain cause... power and budget never go hand in hand
-yeah turbos~ u did mention na but i like power
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yes ask him to get honda crv. For me i still stick with Iriz Mt 1.6 exec thank you for your advice. How come iriz is similar to hyundai i10.No it is not even similar to each other.Suprima S, Exora CFE and Preve CFE are the flagship cars of Proton. And Iriz is also one of the flagship cars of proton.
1) Suprima S
2) Preve CFE
3) Exora CFE
4) Iriz VVT


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post Jun 30 2016, 10:05 PM

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1. Brand : Mazda 3 2.0 GL year 2012 or Toyota Altis 1.8 year 2011
2. Budget : 70,000k
3. New/Used/Unreg : USED
4. Specs : GL or G
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : -
7. Type : Sedan
8. Remarks :

Hi guys, Im super new to this forum. Anyways, i have been contemplating hard between these 2 modals. Im a salesman, in my line i need to travel alot. Currently driving a 1.3 wira aeroback, which is killing me softly everyday. Would love the next car to last me a good 10years (If possible). So i need an upgrade. Hence, i need your precious feedbacks =)

Option 1:
Toyota Altis 1.8 G, year 2011-12. price 65k - 75k
In my mind toyota has been building reliable cars, well at least thats what i think. Comfortable, maintenance shouldnt be an issue since its toyota, spare parts are everywhere.

Option 2:
Mazda 3 2.0 GL or GLS
Mazda are 5-10k cheaper and newer. (Guess its the brand)
Sporty looking, more powerful, not sure about the maintenance part since no frieds drive a mazda. sleep.gif

So pls comment....

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post Jun 30 2016, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(dark90 @ Jun 30 2016, 11:05 AM)
I was approached by a toyota sales man. they say toyota got their own bank can loan from them.. not sure how or what the process is, just want to confirm is this true?
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jackbanner you might wanna add this to the front page.

Private vehicle finance companies I know of in Malaysia.

Toyota - Toyota Capital
Nissan - TC Capital Resources Sdn Bhd
BMW - BMW Credit Malaysia

QUOTE(nelsonmui87 @ Jun 30 2016, 11:14 AM)
E. Any advise where could I get more reliable reverse camera? Prefer those no need drill one...
I am worry after drill if change next camera will it be a problem.

G. Yes, I found if running on highway frequently, even new car will get lots of stone chip easily...
Thinking how to prevent in this case hmm.gif  hmm.gif 
Thanks bro. In this case will prefer factory fitted one... Because previous car is exactly like what you mentioned, after drill the work is not nice and need worry for future camera replacement.
Actually i am thinking to get a reliable camera with guideline, my previous guideline totally doesn't work.
So guideline is actually produce in camera not player, right?

Erm... so your usually repaint every few years? After repaint any impact?
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Here are a few options....

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License plate reverse camera - they'll still need to drill a small hole to run the wires but it is pretty universal can fit into any car.

replacement number plate illuminator - you'd have to surf around for a specific model for your car model, coz basically it is a replacement for the light that's shining on your number plate, no need to drill the wires run through the lighting casing.

usually no need to repaint, normally stone chips on the front bonnet cover only.
so just get some carbon fibre sticker or car color sticker to cover your car bonnet, or whole car wrap.
same cost as a repaint but u kept your original paint if u wanna sell the car later on brows.gif

QUOTE(rainning @ Jun 30 2016, 11:37 AM)
Thanks zenix , thanks for you advise.
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QUOTE(dark90 @ Jun 30 2016, 01:27 PM)
lel. andrew you should really go for a test drive and see for yourself hows the handling and everything. See for yourself hows the handling in Iriz kia, or Vios.
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He no need test, listen to Paul Tan enough thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE(zenix)
Entry level Subaru Forester for RM119k
sos

Subaru XV for RM90k
sos

It is either they've over anticipated the orders for their cars or sales is really bad.
Two models from the same manufacturer, but why?
One thing the two have in common is a lack of turbo.
Subaru's reputation has been built on a boxer turbo and AWD.
This two models although having a similar boxer engine is tuned to run without a turbo.
Although the power is decent it kind of disappoints it's fan base.
I'm guessing Subaru did so because without a turbo it is less complicated to maintain and cheaper to maintain, so they thought they could really go mass market with this two models to fight against HRV/CX3 (for XV) and CRV/CX5 (Forester). Infact, the XV was launched before the HRV/CX3 and back then the only competition was the Toyota Rush which for me is basically an Avanza with AWD and clever styling. I think XV lost alot of sales and market share when HRV and CX3 launched, only those not willing to wait and wanted a 2000cc engine would've cancelled their orders and went ahead for an XV. I think maintenance for the XV is decent as they did sold quite a number of them before HRV/CX3 came around so there is an incentive for 3rd party parts wholesalers to keep parts for this model. Forester is a good car but it lacks turbo and maintenance isn't going to be cheap as their numbers (even the model with turbo) isn't abundant in our market.

2009 Nissan Dualis 2.0 - this is the JDM version of Nissan X-Trail. Basically, it is exactly the same as the X-trail in terms of engine/gearbox/AWD system except it looks better. Yeah, the X-Trail is a good car and has a good AWD system which you can convert from 2x4 to 4x4 at a touch of a button unlike cars like Honda CRV which is stuck at 4x4 mode all the time. Just for your information the flexibility to change from 2x4 to 4x4 is mostly to do with speed and fuel efficiency, this is because in 4x4 mode the engine needs to work for 4 tires where in 2x4 mode the engine only needs to work for 2 tires so going at higher speeds and saving fuel when 4x4 is not needed but when you need it lets say you're driving on the highway and you see dark clouds ahead and wanna go into 4x4 mode just in case you need the extra grip cause of heavy rain/flood then to go from 2x4 all you need to do is drive slower to about 40-60kmh press the 4x4 button and the car/computer does the rest. Unlike pickup trucks where you need to go to an R&R stop and do the change, the system on Nissan X-trail/Dualis can do this without a need to stop. In a nutshell the Dualis is as cheap to maintain as an X-trail and you can think of it as one but of course JDM quality build inside and outside is better, just only time parts would get expensive is during an accident but then usually it would be covered by insurance if it is an expensive fix so not much to worry.
Thanks for your advise, I've decided to opt for the XV.

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First off when we're talking about less headache maintenance and reliability plus decent maintenance cost we can throw out Koreans and Conti's.

2010 Nissan Dualis - usually Nissan X-Trail would be a good choice but let's think outside the box abit, I know it is for old folks but you don't need to get them that boxy old folks looking car, you can opt for its JDM brother the Dualis. It is a JDM model so of course the build quality and materials used are better than the ones in the X-Trail but the best part is under the skin parts like the engine, gearbox, aircon, all wheel drive system, etc. is the same so you don't need to worry about limited parts supply or buying expensive flown in from Japan parts, you can use the locally made parts for the X-trail. Of course they don't look the same so if in the future an accident occurs getting body panel parts might not be as cheap but if an accident usually can claim insurance or 3rd party so I don't think that's a problem as long as your maintenance and upkeep is cheap that matters more.

2009 Toyota Fortuner 2.7 - the only black spot about this car is the engine displace of 2700cc of which the roadtax would cost you RM1,000 per year. Other than that it is a rock solid car like any Toyota. In terms of size it is slightly bigger than the CRV but they're in the same class, I think the old folks would enjoy a bigger and more comfortable ride while they're exploring the country. It is pretty cheap to maintain and parts are cheap as the Fortuner/Hilux/Innova share many common components. The only thing is your'll need to buy extra black oil for the bigger engine.

QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 30 2016, 04:11 PM)
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mai gawd! u damn c2pit!
this is the correct answer!

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QUOTE(Jackeechong @ Jun 30 2016, 10:05 PM)
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Since you're a salesman we'll look for cars that are cheap to maintain as well since most salesman would rack up the mileage very quickly.

If you consider the Mazda3 then you may want to consider the Civic. The Civic is about the same price and performance category. But maintenance and upkeep would be lower.

2012 Honda Civic 1.8 - this car is quite understated because I guess after the success of the 8th generation people expect much from the 9th generation were pretty much bummed as the 9th generation basically is like a major facelift of the 8th generation with cost cutting measures. No more K-series engine the 9th generation all only gets the R-series engine. Which isn't too bad as it gives pretty good pickup, top end speed (i've reached over 200 on the 1.8 without noticing that's how smooth & silent it is on the highway), and fantastic fuel economy. But the 140hp and SOHC engine make owners feel they only got 2" despite the benefits. So basically it is an ego issue if you can put that aside this is a good car, reliable, powerful and cheap to maintain. Unless you don't like it and feel like you're missing out coz the superb Civic Turbo is out now just replaced this disaster of a product.

2015 Proton Inspira 2.0 - another car that will be good for your pocket but will bust your ego abit. There won't be any issues for this car to last you 10 years because not only Proton makes parts for it, Mitsubishi and it's OEM partners also make parts for it. Maintenance cost and parts availability isn't an issue. It might not be as frugal to maintain as your Wira but it sure is modern with better safety features and much much better fuel economy. It also looks pretty handsome with that Proton bodykit. One thing I heard from owners is the Lotus handling suspension are more expensive than the Mitsubishi ones, but heck if you're not into it then just replace them with Mitsubishi ones in the future. I think for cheaper, newer, more reliable, good looks, performance and upkeep cost this car has it all.

No doubt Altis would be a good choice for what you've stated, and if you're adamant you want everything and it must be a Japanese brand then Altis is it. But if you want everything but it mustn't need to be a Japanese you can consider the Inspira. Well, by name only it is actually a CKD Lancer laugh.gif






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Thanks for your advise, I've decided to opt for the XV.
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Not a bad choice, there are people making crossover kits and lowering kits for this car.
And the result is fantastic!

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 30 2016, 11:02 PM)
jackbanner you might wanna add this to the front page.

Private vehicle finance companies I know of in Malaysia.

Toyota - Toyota Capital
Nissan - TC Capital Resources Sdn Bhd
BMW - BMW Credit Malaysia
Here are a few options....

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one more thing about buying used cars is that their dp is always higher than new cars.. i dont get that.. must be 10% one.. if new can get rebate la 0% DP
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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 30 2016, 04:16 PM)
yes ask him to get honda crv. For me i still stick with Iriz Mt 1.6 exec thank you for your advice. How come iriz is similar to hyundai i10.No it is not even similar to each other.Suprima S, Exora CFE and Preve CFE are the flagship cars of Proton. And Iriz is also one of the flagship cars of proton.
1) Suprima S
2) Preve CFE
3) Exora CFE
4) Iriz VVT
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you are using the term flagship wrong...
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dualist - whoa that thing looks more like a murano than an x-trail ohmy.gif
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dualist - whoa that thing looks more like a murano than an x-trail  ohmy.gif
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here is one wearing the crossover kit

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jul 1 2016, 10:35 AM)
you are using the term flagship wrong...
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why? because there is no more inspira left so suprima s is the flagship car of proton right now. and Zenix, paul tan ask me to buy iriz mt.

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