the hrv isnt exactly very roomy ya know.. afterall its largely based on the jazz....... am also not sure how its resale value will hold up againsts the m3... recent mazdas have been holding a respectable amount of their resale value. If there was something to complain about the mazda is its rear passenger space.

the subaru xv suggested by 5p3ak is loosely based on the imprezza platform, so yeah will be more spacious

top end bezza's major dif is that it has that extra safety feature which brings its crash ratings up.... whether its important or not is really up to you.

If you want I can pass you some contacts, pm me.

Cold car

Many different prices depending on the salesman.
What matters is it a good deal for you?

First things first. "Balik kampung" is how far?
I'm frequently travelling up and down from KL to Singapore.
Although a 1500cc City is able to do the job.
It is a tiring drive plus you really need to be on your game when you wanna push it anything above 120kmh.
I'm considering at least 1800cc c-segment now.

Would you like a turbo diesel?
I've been told Triton Adventure (full spec) clearing stock around your budget

C200 would be the way to go.
Just to share with you.
If something happens to the aircon and you need to replace the whole thing it would cost rm4000 for either a c-class or 3-series.
You know what other car has parts this pricey? Mazda.
Yep, that 2010/2011 Mazda6 which is floating in the used car market around 55k-65k really has some expensive parts.
If parts pricing is on average the same, I suppose one would rather cry in a Merc/BMW than a Mazda, ya?

Basically the low spec Bezza is worst off than Myvi.
The top spec Bezza is only better because of the additional safety features so you're in a 5 star ANCAP car.
Which is the first and only one from Perodua iinm.
So yes Bezza top spec is very updated but the lower spec ones are nothing better than Axia.

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Hello all sifus and pros, i am not really good in cars so I would need suggestions from all sifus here.
Been working for few years now and would like to upgrade my car from a Myvi, would like to state that im aiming for a C Segment car as dont rly like cars like vios etc
after much survey and research done, these are the cars im considering 50k+- would be my budget and it will be a used car, it will be mainly city driving with occasional long distance drives, Of
Course FC is important as well. These are the few cars and their avg prices i found.

1) Honda Civic FD1 2009-2011 avg price about 55k
2) Proton Inspira 2012-2013 avg price abt 45k
3) Mazda 3 HB/Sedan 2010-2011 avg price abt 50k
4) Fairly new Proton Preve 2014 avg price abt 40k

These are four cars which im considering, Im leaning abit on the honda civic and the proton inspira coz ive always liked the design of both these cars, Of course, i dont really mind being called a
fake lancer as I only care what im driving. Thank you for ur help

so basically, either the highest end of bezza or just get a myvi? 2nd highest end of bezza no point?

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of this list, personally like the inspira (try get top end) better.... BUT of the 4, this also has the poorest fc. Its alright and noone will call it a fake lancer UNLESS you put in effort into actually changing the badges or dumping on evo conversion parts. At that point even I will call you a lalabeng. Do note that the maintenance of this s also one of the higher ones of this bunch as well so basically this will be the most costly to run.

civic 1.8's are something i just cannot look at... i just cannot look at them the same way. In my mind, civics should be slightly performance oriented... but the 1.8... no go.

mazda 3, pretty much a small car with a sporty design/interior/seating pos

preve - well imo nothing special now, the campro models are crap (my 2 sen) the cfe models are alright but nothing much special other than its loaded with safety features....

not to say 'no point' but you are pretty much missing out on what it has to offer in that aspect. At the end of the day it can still get you from point A to point B, but as you it is missing stability control there is an increased chance you dont. Then again i always say that if you drive responsibly the chances of this happening is greatly reduced (but not removed alltogether)

2013 Preve Turbo, is within your budget, a very nice car with excellent handling, give it a try.

okla, i change the order to 1.3 bezza advance. 4 years repayment instead. actually long run will let my other half drive this car, i rather get another 2nd hand manual car, aiming for GT86 or maybe a CRZ after paying this off.

thanks for the advice, wanted a myvi 1.5 because of engine, but, no point if city drive, kill me faster only if use powerful and small car in highway.

haha 86 is a very nice car but manyak mahal....
crz alrightlah more looks than go but right now 70k can net you a decent car. Otherwise if u berani and can afford to pay cash, save up and get a older car....

if use powerful and small car in highway. bolehlah, need to control urself only.... to be honest not much dif between the 1.5 myvi and 1.3 bezza...
go try the persona 1st before you make your decision.... you might like that better??

my other half ban proton, sot thats why. CS not great, currently using a proton and a bike sometimes for daily work. Petrol not a problem, company sponsor. so need to save up next 4 years i guess. house otw so draining my cash flow by 1/3. if i get monthly repayment of 1k above, cannot save for holiday etc.

either get a good car now n keep for the next 7-9 years, or get a ok ok car, and buy a 2nd hand in the future =) gonna rent a hachiroku next week in hakone anyway he he he.

hello guys , would like to ask if its worth to get a Nissan Almera for like RM43k? as i was offered by a friend. car is around 3yrs +

its a 2013 model, automatic, push start, key less entry, impulse body kits, mileage is around 70k

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normal price, i think you should negotiate alittle if you want it. (a dealership would pay your friend close to 40k or less for that car)

frankly speaking, am not a big fan of the almera..... would rather get something else e.g. forte, elantra, inspira, suprima with that kind of budget (though ofc, running costs would be higher)

That's a cosmetic issue only
Camry also tongek nobody bat an eye

I'm not going to talk much about the Preve because I'm not familiar with the upkeep for his car, however I do know among the two variants available the non-turbo doesn't really cut it due to poor fuel consumption and performance, while the turbo does have "some" performance but fuel consumption isn't any better which is kind of strange since it is not a performance orientated turbo it should give better fuel consumption.

Mazda 3 would actually be the most expensive to maintain among the group as most of their parts prices are locked by the sole distributor especially big ticket items like aircon compressor, gearbox and anything from the engine. This is an economics of scale issue because for parallel importers to bring in compatible or cheaper originals from other countries to sell cheaper locally they need some sort of volume or else it doesn't make sense, which is why smaller items and compatible items like fuel filters, absorbers, etc. can be found because higher chance for people to buy it but bigger ones can't because it doesn't make sense for them to bring it in and sell cheaper because customer base small and warehousing cost isn't cheap to wait until someone breaks a cylinder head to seek a replacement. That is why they usually refer you back to 3S or authorised dealer.

Inspira/Lancer would be similar situation as Mazda3 except because both of these cars create enough volume I have seen importers bring more than just the usual minor service items for these cars.

2010 Toyota Camry 2.0 - looking at your budget have you ever thought about something like a Camry? Upkeep wise it would be around or slightly more expensive than the Inspira or Mazda3. Of course being a D-segment the comfort is better.

Well, even Myvi doesn't have the updated safety features of the top spec Bezza.
Infact at around this price point the only other product which has is the Persona and Saga.
However, personally I feel Perodua has better customer service and maintenance for the Bezza in the long run would be cheaper.

2009 Swift Sports 1.6 - if you're into cars that are nimble and fun you should consider a car like this. A very nice sorted chassis. Powerful engine but not too powerful until driving it is difficult. Near perfect gear ratio's. A driver's car for sure, you can bring it to the track or Genting Sempah for some fun although there are more powerful cars but if based on engine capacity probably only Proton Satria GTI or Proton Satria Neo R3 might give you a run for your money else you'd be cutting corners overtaking most other 1600cc cars unless heavily modified. Always remember an original SSS only comes with a 1600cc engine and manual gearbox, everything else is just bodykit version of the standard model.

2008 VW Polo GTI 1.8 - however if you want something more powerful but not a big brute like Evo's and WRX's then maybe you can consider the Polo GTI. It uses the more stable 1800cc turbo which was in Audi A4/A6, VW Golf GTI, Skoda Octavia 1.8T, etc. It is stable hardware plus connected to a manual it is pretty much bulletproof.

2000kms per month on average.
It is on the higher side.
When looking at such mileage on used car lots you can probably think it is true as sometimes they cheat by putting a lower mileage.
But for a private sale it is on the higher side.
The price range is around 37k for the manual and 39k for the cheapest auto.
If you like it then squeeze him for more discounts since if he sell to used car dealer he won't get 43k anyway.

mazda's sounding more and more expensive to maintain that I expect. Have a friend who loooooooooves mazdas (esp the 3), should go get a parts price list and have a look through first before he actually goes full nuts and gets one,

I am selling off my Neo CPS Manual and my brother using normal suzy, so kinda know the rough idea.
planing to get another car in the future after bezza, GTI sounds nice, or alternatively, a GT86 within 5 years from now =) for now i need to find a better career path >.<

erm.....

why not just stick to the cps... im guessing most of the major depreciation period has already passed~ its a car that will get you from a-b though does drink petrol abit

like those pencuri kereta in USA, my other half cannot drive a manual. Need to "share" the car in the near future, so this is my sad story with my neo. petrol is free for me, company sponsor. i always pump RON 97 (V power kenot, shell card max 97).

so, sell off, buy new auto car, i use bike, she use car, years from now i get another manual (which she cant drive), and it is ALL MINE!!!! GT86 kinda like a dream fun car, as S660 too expensive damn jibby

s660 aww yeah my fav..... not really jibby punya pasal alone tho.... scalpers making buttloads here