someone butthurt is it? i got lipoted
In terms of maintenance they both use the
VQ20DE engine, the newer one would of course be abit more expensive and refined (think of it as the facelift version) basically they're both the same car underneath.
2000 Toyota Camry - it would seem to be abit more "expensive" if you compare with the Cefiro because for the same amount of money usually you get a younger car as T&H cars legendary RV creates this problem. 17 years old car, is it worth it? Seriously, depends on what you think. Until now I have zero idea what you going to do with the car. Like I said if it is just an extra car that's going to be non-moving most of the time get a newer Myvi/Persona the maintenance won't bite. If it is being used only on weekends and you need the extra space for family then maybe a D-segment or MPV would be something you should be thinking about.
2010 Kia Rio Wagon - if you're looking for something with a bigger boot capacity maybe you should consider a wagon/combi. The Rio might be a decent choice, it isn't too old plus it has a low & flat tailgate for luggage. Space-wise it is somewhere between B-segment and C-segment, older C-segments do feel like B-segments nowadays. Engine maintenance isn't too terrible, it has got a pretty unspectacular 1600cc lump, parts accessibility and pricing isn't too expensive similar to the rest of the Korean ilk. However, don't expect too much performance or good FC from it, it is just good enough.
2013 Nissan Latio 1.6 - very hard to find? I linked it in my previous post. See it for my thoughts.
I wouldn't say it is a terrible car but realistically:
1. don't expect too much from the turbo, eventhough it is a 1600cc turbo it isn't in the same league as the "problematic" 1400cc TSI from VW.
2. since maybe performance sucks it should have good fuel consumption, right? Engine's are always a balance between power/fuel consumption. Well, wrong for CFE. Although performance lose to TSI, fuel consumption also lose to it.
But for around 28-38k range your choices for turbo, loads of accessories, not very old and good safety rating the only other car that would match it up are the 308/408's from Peugeot but then those are even more expensive to maintain than a Preve.
I think it has been discussed before, look back a few pages.
2013 Nissan Sylphy 2.0 - perhaps it is time to get a modern C-segment and upgrade to a 2000cc engine? The Sylphy is cheaper to buy and younger if compared to Civic/Altis, but it has a two flaws. The CVT on this pre-facelift model is known to overheat so a gearbox oil cooler is the first thing you need to invest in when you buy this car,
here is a guide. Secondly, it lacks some of the more premium features of a modern C-segment like rear disc brakes and stability control/traction control (even the Lancer/Inspira lack this). It depends on your requirements and driving style, if you're an aggressive driver and clock alot of miles, perhaps you should look elsewhere, if not it is a very value buy car. Maintenance can be said to be dirt cheap because unlike Civic/Altis it lacks many complicated electronics and performance bits so lower grade of semi-syn oil would do for this 2000cc engine (unless you're an aggressive driver of course).
2013 Honda Jazz Hybrid 1.4 - I suppose from the advert this used to be a demo car before it got sold to the used car dealer, probably in better condition than it would have been by a private owner and the mileage if unedited is quite low. The benefits of this model is it uses the very fuel saving combo of a 3-stage vtec engine and CVT, addon the IMA (hybrid) bits and this car becomes a very fuel saving car indeed. Quality wise it is better than the regular Jazz because all hybrids are made in Japan CBU's so the quality is definitely better just feel the interior materials like soft touch plastics. Being a Hybrid and got CVT the typical malaysian mentality makes it a lousy second hand buy so that means it is cheaper than it actually should be, the fuel guzzling non-hybrid 5AT gearbox version is always slightly more expensive at used car dealer lots but I wonder why. The Hybrid has so much more extra besides the better quality it has better parts like ISOFIX seats, special hook childseat, 6 airbags, etc.
2013 Toyota Altis 1.8 - if you're thinking long term like another 7-10 years then consider the Altis. Low maintenance, this particular design still looks pretty handsome especially with bodykits, engine performance is decent, more features than Sylphy.
2012 Proton Satria Neo @ RM18kLet's use the car above as an example.
1. Yes it is relatively cheap and young.
2. This is usually the point when people aim for cheap and young car, cause it should be less troublesome to upkeep. So what kind of mod's you planning cause the stuff in that blog are pretty drastic stuff.
3. So that's 18k+5k? When you say you have more money meaning lump sum cash to mod or few hundred extra every month for modding cheapo stuff?
4. So you're looking for a project car? Just to show off or something to join a club for?
1999 Honda Civic 1.6 - this model instantly has more power than the Neo without any mods. If the advertisement is true then it is a very nicely taken care of low mileage car. Still has tons of mods for this car in the market but if you're going to just mainly do aesthetics also can, anything 1600cc and below on the roads now without turbo isn't a match for it and it can stand up to 1700cc and even 1800cc powered cars. Maintenance? Cheap for the power you get.
thank you sifu! another question that i would like to ask, should i look out for those car that still comes with warranty from etc, toyata, honda, nissan? as in to avoid mileage etc being tampered with?