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 Plan to buy a NEW/USED car?(V3),, ASK HERE for recommendations

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post Oct 12 2016, 03:47 PM

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Yup, older 2006-2008's are above 40k while the 2005 and older are below 40k -- can be a good buy if you want a decent maintenance costing d-segment.

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post Oct 12 2016, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 10 2016, 12:41 AM)
erm.... 1st or second version of what..... toyota has a gazilion models and trims to select from...
there is no way to answer this... depends on the condition of the car i guess.... if its basically brand new with less than 10km, yeah go ahead, if its been in 20 accidents and had no roof, i think its a bad idea......

anyway, the newer generation of 08 (iirc it was upddated in 08) can be found for around 40k+? otr.... the last of its batch models are easily available for lower than that
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Sorry it is 1st version of vios.
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post Oct 12 2016, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(wenzhenzhen @ Oct 12 2016, 03:54 PM)
Sorry it is 1st version of vios.
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few notes,
1)vios 1/2 gen basically the same thing, just wearing a diferent dress. Assuming conditions are the same, its basically down to aesthetics.
2)older car = 'usually' more wear and tear

i guess you know of the general consciences of buying an older car now. So yeah, to me its the same thing, no real obvious option here. its down to what condition said car is in, price of said car and which you prefer.


edit: oh yeah.... why vios... why everyone wants a piece of vios?? this confuses me to no end........

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post Oct 12 2016, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 12 2016, 04:11 PM)
few notes,
1)vios 1/2 gen basically the same thing, just wearing a diferent dress. Assuming conditions are the same, its basically down to aesthetics.
2)older car = 'usually' more wear and tear

i guess you know of the general consciences of buying an older car now. So yeah, to me its the same thing, no real obvious option here. its down to what condition said car is in, price of said car and which you prefer.
edit: oh yeah.... why vios... why everyone wants a piece of vios?? this confuses me to no end........
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Bcos vios is design is suitable for lady driver haha. Actually I didnt drive for quite long edy due to other commitments. Currently wanna refresh myself into driving. Thinking wanna buy used car as an investment to horne my driving skills haha
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post Oct 12 2016, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 12 2016, 01:06 PM)
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sounds like a Mazda3 MPS to me.

QUOTE(shinrei @ Oct 12 2016, 03:47 PM)
thanks man! rclxms.gif
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low maintenance d-segs would be either accord or camry.
largely they're the same but the honda might cost you more on the suspension bits.

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can say mechanically almost the same.
there are some differences.
the gearbox although largely the same do not have the same ratio's.
the engine although largely the same have certain differences, iinm one timing chain instead of two.
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post Oct 12 2016, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 12 2016, 04:59 PM)
sounds like a Mazda3 MPS to me.

the engine although largely the same have certain differences, iinm one timing chain instead of two.
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haha he mau 'new' car mah..... mps is the 2.3l model kan... that car scares me alittle...

did not know the timing belt was dif... all i knew was they kept on making minor mechanical tweaks on it, little subtle bits here and there along the way.
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post Oct 12 2016, 06:17 PM

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low maintenance d-segs would be either accord or camry.
largely they're the same but the honda might cost you more on the suspension bits.

Looking at accord or camry as well

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post Oct 12 2016, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 12 2016, 05:07 PM)
haha he mau 'new' car mah..... mps is the 2.3l model kan... that car scares me alittle...
did not know the timing belt was dif... all i knew was they kept on making minor mechanical tweaks on it, little subtle bits here and there along the way.
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why does it scare you? devil.gif

QUOTE(shinrei @ Oct 12 2016, 06:17 PM)
Looking at accord or camry as well
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post Oct 12 2016, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 12 2016, 12:38 PM)
tamau intro latio liao.....people here rich.....must intro conti!

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2010 Renault Clio 1.6 - if her mileage is low and she wants something fun and cute she can consider this car. Renault parts would be around the same price bracket as the Insight because the Insight is a Japan CBU thus parts are mostly from there.
hahaha....to put things into perspective....a Toyota Camry 3.0 V6 is only capable of 0-100kmh in 9secs and that's a car almost double the "under 100k" budget.
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Don't forget the amazing Proton Preve CFE/turbo it can do 0-100 in 9.6 seconds.
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post Oct 12 2016, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Corsair0418 @ Oct 10 2016, 11:38 PM)
1. Brand. Any car brand will do
2. Budget budget 80k + - OTR with insurance
3. New/Used/Unreg. New unit
4. Transmission.  Auto
5. Type. sedan or hatchback
6. Remarks. 6 speakers with goodie sound, comfortable for long ride , quiet in the cabin , fast acceleration with good eco.

thanks shifusss for quoting a good carrrr, can i get all these requirement with the price range ? thank you shifusss
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I would recommend Proton Preve if you don't mind 10l /100km city driving.
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post Oct 12 2016, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(Adjansi @ Oct 12 2016, 10:23 PM)
Don't forget the amazing  Proton Preve CFE/turbo it can do 0-100 in 9.6 seconds.
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QUOTE(Adjansi @ Oct 12 2016, 10:37 PM)
I would recommend Proton Preve if you don't mind 10l /100km city driving.
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well..... his definition of acceptable acceleration = under 7..... apparently he needs to 'outaccelerate' most pipu at the lights rolleyes.gif



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post Oct 13 2016, 07:53 AM

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1. Brand = Any
2. Budget = <35k-40k otr
3. New/Used/Unreg = used
4. Specs = powerful car to balik kampung and go outstation
5. Transmission = auto
6. NA or FI ? = I dont know what is this haha
7. Type = sedan or hb
8. Remarks = fresh grad with 2500 basic need first car to go balik kampung and sometimes want to tekan (young blood) haha. Trying to get mothly below 500 haha. Want to to learn to take care of a car. Hehe. If can get handsome car ill be happy. Low maintenance cost ( dont want to spend my time at workshop) Huhu. No major prob. ( I already read about Peugeot 308 turbo and Ford fiesta) haha. More keras and safe ( I do care about safety but I also understand that old car dont have lot of safety features)

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post Oct 13 2016, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(smiling_leopard @ Oct 13 2016, 08:53 AM)
1. Brand = Any
2. Budget = <35k-40k otr
3. New/Used/Unreg = used
4. Specs = powerful car to balik kampung and go outstation
5. Transmission = auto
6. NA or FI ? = I dont know what is this haha
7. Type = sedan or hb
8. Remarks = fresh grad with 2500 basic need first car to go balik kampung and sometimes want to tekan (young blood) haha. Trying to get mothly below 500 haha. Want to to learn to take care of a car. Hehe. If can get handsome car ill be happy. Low maintenance cost ( dont want to spend my time at workshop) Huhu. No major prob. ( I already read about Peugeot 308 turbo and Ford fiesta) haha. More keras and safe ( I do care about safety but I also understand that old car dont have lot of safety features)
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Nissan Latio maybe?
Like normally Zenix will suggest.

Suit your budget well, got option for sedan and hb, low maintenance, and the hb looks is not bad too.
the only thing is if you want to tekan, maybe this one not that good in that area. laugh.gif
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post Oct 13 2016, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(smiling_leopard @ Oct 13 2016, 07:53 AM)
1. Brand = Any
2. Budget = <35k-40k otr
3. New/Used/Unreg = used
4. Specs = powerful car to balik kampung and go outstation
5. Transmission = auto
6. NA or FI ? = I dont know what is this haha
7. Type = sedan or hb
8. Remarks = fresh grad with 2500 basic need first car to go balik kampung and sometimes want to tekan (young blood) haha. Trying to get mothly below 500 haha. Want to to learn to take care of a car. Hehe. If can get handsome car ill be happy. Low maintenance cost ( dont want to spend my time at workshop) Huhu. No major prob. ( I already read about Peugeot 308 turbo and Ford fiesta) haha. More keras and safe ( I do care about safety but I also understand that old car dont have lot of safety features)
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ehh... my comment hilang......... alamak lazy to tulis lama again
basically if you want to buy used, calculate the amount of interest you will be paying correctly. dont wana end up paying more than what is worth.


suggest you consider a newer local frugal car and not any of those conti's you have mentioned. (unless you are willing to live for the car)
+ iriz 1-2 yo used units are alright (and cheap)
+ axia

or an older used car (have some extra for maintanance)
+ latio (zenix's fav) + leaves lots of spare $
+ colt (mivec + turbo goodness)
+ satria neo (brows.gif the fake sports car, all looks no go)
- inspira (yeah running costs abit high, bad idea)

if you have big kahunas and are prepared to suddenly eat rumput one day (no bread even)
-- alfa 147 (also zenixes recommended conti innocent.gif)
-- 308 (facelift is alittle better according to owners)
-- fiesta
-- beetle
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post Oct 13 2016, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 13 2016, 04:12 PM)
ehh... my comment hilang......... alamak lazy to tulis lama again
basically if you want to buy used, calculate the amount of interest you will be paying correctly. dont wana end up paying more than what is worth.
suggest you consider a newer local frugal car and not any of those conti's you have mentioned. (unless you are willing to live for the car)
+ iriz 1-2 yo used units are alright (and cheap)
+ axia

or an older used car (have some extra for maintanance)
+ latio (zenix's fav) + leaves lots of spare $
+ colt (mivec + turbo goodness)
+ satria neo (brows.gif the fake sports car, all looks no go)
- inspira (yeah running costs abit high, bad idea)

if you have big kahunas and are prepared to suddenly eat rumput one day (no bread even)
-- alfa 147 (also zenixes recommended conti  innocent.gif)
-- 308 (facelift is alittle better according to owners)
-- fiesta
-- beetle
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How about preve turbo, Suzuki swift, Mazda 2 and Kia forte? Any comments

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post Oct 13 2016, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(smiling_leopard @ Oct 13 2016, 08:03 PM)
How about preve turbo, Suzuki swift, Mazda 2 and Kia forte? Any comments
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dont know why fresh grads like these sort of cars.... then again, dry.gif i did, sort of...

technically speaking all 3 cars are alright, swift being a car i dont understand why people like, other than its looks its basically a kosong hatch. The maintanance of all of them are not very high, just more than the price of maintaining an equivalent local car

If your gross salary is 2.5k, how much can you really spend on a car...... Aside from the loan, how much are you willing to spend on it yearly. You need to pay for insurance, road-tax, maintenance, tires, spare cash pool incase crap happens as well as mods (young guy, very likely you will modify the car alittle) Better do the math first.
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post Oct 14 2016, 06:41 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 13 2016, 11:58 PM)
dont know why fresh grads like these sort of cars.... then again,  dry.gif i did, sort of...

technically speaking all 3 cars are alright, swift being a car i dont understand why people like, other than its looks its basically a kosong hatch. The maintanance of all of them are not very high, just more than the price of maintaining an equivalent local car

If your gross salary is 2.5k, how much can you really spend on a car...... Aside from the loan, how much are you willing to spend on it yearly. You need to pay for insurance, road-tax, maintenance, tires, spare cash pool incase crap happens as well as mods (young guy, very likely you will modify the car alittle) Better do the math first.
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Haha. About mod, maybe later. I just pick this car in the price range of my budget, base on mudah. For now, I dont really have any commitment, just spend money to eat, petrol and give some to my mom. Forgot to tell u, Min years I choosed is 2011 and 2012, I did find latio but also find other cars. Hehe. But I want car that have good handling, low or moderate fc and low or moderate maintenance cost with no major breakdown.

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post Oct 14 2016, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(smiling_leopard @ Oct 14 2016, 06:41 AM)

I want car that have good handling, low or moderate fc and  low or moderate maintenance cost with no major breakdown.
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proton savvy
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post Oct 14 2016, 11:09 AM

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proton savvy
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if this section "moderate maintenance cost with no major breakdown." is a mandatory requirement, then savvy should be off the list.

just fyi.... the amt savvy is a bad idea. If the mechatronics system fails, the car will basically become garden decor. The manual ones are safe in this aspect BUT, still has way wayyyy too many sensors in the car, troubleshooting errors is apparently a huge pain in the arse cause of this (specialists already know this car's characteristics in and out now though). These sensitive sensors tend to pop or need cleaning every now and then are also very expensive to replace. personally would rather pay for petrol than these sensors.

THis was a car my dad considered getting for me back when i was studying. threw the idea out once some owners gave us some feedback. Saves fuel? yes, its very frugal. Cheap to maintain? no. Handling good? its pretty decent, tyres are basically located at the very edges of the car. Powerful? nope.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 10 2016, 10:20 AM)
worthy based on what criteria and budget?
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1. Brand: Toyota Prius/Prius C
2. Budget: 80k
3. New/Used/Unreg: Used
4. Specs: Hybrid
5. Transmission: AT
6. NA or FI: -
7. Type.: -
8. Remarks.: Good FC with Low Maintenance & No major breakdown
What I'm seeing here is
1) Prius C(2012/13/14): @Mudah: RM 50k avg, @Topmark: RM 60k above
2) Prius (2012/13/14): @Mudah: RM60k above, @Topmark: RM 75k avg
My question on "worthy" is if based on the budget, should i go for other cars or Prius models are worth getting?
Also, which is a better choice? Prius C or Prius?

Thanks alot~

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