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 Plan to buy a NEW/USED car?(V3),, ASK HERE for recommendations

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post Oct 7 2016, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 7 2016, 12:53 PM)
dif variants, diferent conditions, and diferent sellers... sold by shop, they need a cut, some owners feel that their cars are worth alot..... hence a much higher pricetag but down the road they cant sell it and only readjust much further but by then the car has further devalued. (< i smell a grammatical error there)
*my own car was one of them, previous owner offered it at xxxxx but called me up again after a few months offering it to my for 1/2 the initial offer (no you read correctly, half!!!!!)
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wow...at half pricee blink.gif I guess i better try this tactic too...Usually if used car dealer, they give waranty or not for car that they sold?...scared later buy, drive until home only to found out got major problem..maybe leaking etc..
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post Oct 7 2016, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(wokies @ Oct 7 2016, 01:00 PM)
wow...at half pricee blink.gif  I guess i better try this tactic too...Usually if used car dealer, they give waranty or not for car that they sold?...scared later buy, drive until home only to found out got major problem..maybe leaking etc..
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well... in my case... he did try sell the car way way above market value.... it did come with some pretty rare stuff, not a common car not really a good example.

in your case, it wont be as badly hiked up since its a common model.
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post Oct 7 2016, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 7 2016, 12:57 PM)
that little bit is not true...... myvi 1.0 bs myvi 1.5, the 1.5 uses less fuel in most scenarios. bigger cc but you have the torque and power to push the car with less revs. Its very complicated....

the new potongs seem to offer good milage... especially good if you drive with a feather foot. Its also seems relatively decent long distance BUT its not as stable or as spacious as the previous persona... (old persona is much larger and in my opinion nicer to hammer corners with, stability wise)

one note tho, given the mialge you clock... u might wana find a car that offers unlimited mileage warranty.
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Such as? Got such thing? I dont know about this. Who to look for in this case?
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post Oct 7 2016, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Oct 7 2016, 01:28 PM)
Such as? Got such thing? I dont know about this. Who to look for in this case?
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not sure what you're reffering to?
Such as? Got such thing? > what are you referring to?
Who to look for in this case? > what case?
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post Oct 7 2016, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Oct 6 2016, 09:47 AM)
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2011 Ford Focus 2.0 TDCI - a diesel car would be something better for you because of your high mileage, of course you can choose a pickup but those use bigger and more expensive tires, this is a sedan so relatively cheaper to maintain. It's other components like doors, under carriage, glass, etc. are shared with the regular Focus the only difference is the engine and gearbox. If I remember correctly it uses a Getrag DCT which is pretty bullet proof as long as it is maintained properly. Engine side it uses a TDCI engine which is similar to the ones on their pickup trucks. For petrol cars spark plugs are a consumable which needed to be replaced in time, for Diesel cars they don't have spark plugs but you'll need to change the injectors when they get too clogged up or dirty due to the lower quality of diesel in Malaysia. The two major cost would be the injectors which at a rough estimation about rm150 and DCT gearbox fluids. The service interval for these things are either by condition or mileage, if by mileage it would typically be above 25,000km which at your mileage it would be roughly 3 months.

QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 6 2016, 10:27 AM)
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If you wanna buy Perodua cash let me know, I can do it for you.

Neo is "performance orientated car thats why it is not frugal", LOL! keep telling yourself that lie fanboi, it is not frugal coz Proton's engine isn't good enough. Fact.

It isn't my favourite, it fits most people's criteria of
1. not so old
2. cheap to buy
3. cheap to maintain

If they can afford an extra 10k can think of older Civic FD1's brows.gif

QUOTE(wokies @ Oct 7 2016, 12:01 AM)
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Well, it is a small car which is easy to drive and park.
Won't easily reach speeds where you can lose control of the car.
However, when it comes to safety features for me it is a zero.
Under 10k I'd recommend you look into stuff from the Proton stable.
A Wira or Satria would be a better choice.

QUOTE(backislan @ Oct 7 2016, 07:08 AM)
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To be honest a used car which is 2013 or higher for under 30k ain't going to be any better than 40-50k new.
It is going to be mostly the local crap like Axia, Myvi, Saga, Persona, etc.

2013 Chery Eastar 2.0 - if you don't care for safety features and want a comfortable MPV like Toyota Wish for that budget then you can consider this car, but you'd be afraid to buy one when you search youtube for it's crash test videos.

2013 Pug 207 - if you have a sexy pug service center amoi/awek you wanna see more often you can choose this car.

You loosen up the year make or increase the budget you can start to see Suzuki, Mazda, Mitsubishi and Nissan.
Else it is mostly the crap above.

QUOTE(mandarinoriental @ Oct 7 2016, 10:12 AM)
Is it wise to buy a 2015 second hand polo or are they all rife with problems?
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You're thinking of which spec?
The Polo 1.6 or Polo 1.2/1.4?

QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Oct 7 2016, 12:10 PM)
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back to basics is the new code word for broke back mountain? laugh.gif
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post Oct 7 2016, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 7 2016, 01:41 PM)
Neo is "performance orientated car thats why it is not frugal", LOL! keep telling yourself that lie fanboi, it is not frugal coz Proton's engine isn't good enough. Fact.

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owai innocent.gif
being called fanboy, ouch terasa cry.gif

its supposed to be a performance (or sporty at leastlah) car.... but ohh so true. Campros are basically suckky engines... for a 'sporty car' it's most powerful cps engine of this era cannot even hold up to similar engines by mitsu and honda from the 90's sweat.gif

**but i do like the chassis itself tho.... whistling.gif transkplant in the mitsu's and wallah! problem solved

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post Oct 7 2016, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 7 2016, 01:32 PM)
not sure what you're reffering to?
Such as? Got such thing? > what are you referring to?
Who to look for in this case? > what case?
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I meant if there is a such a thing as unlimited mileage warranty. As a new persona will get you 3 years or 100k mileage (whichever earlier)
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post Oct 7 2016, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(BacktoBasics @ Oct 7 2016, 01:58 PM)
I meant if there is a such a thing as unlimited mileage warranty. As a new persona will get you 3 years or 100k mileage (whichever earlier)
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ahh, yes certain models (more like certain makes) are offered with these kinds of warranties... not those in your list however.... only cheap car i can think of with this sort of warranty right now would be haval....
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 7 2016, 02:01 PM)
ahh, yes certain models (more like certain makes) are offered with these kinds of warranties... not those in your list however.... only cheap car i can think of with this sort of warranty right now would be haval....
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Hmm.. alright bro...thanks haha.
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post Oct 7 2016, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 7 2016, 11:30 AM)
car prices are never fixed...
-taking into account only new sc part costs, proton is cheaper than perodua.... and proton isnt like they used to be back then, the newer models are actually quite reliable. The only part on the flx that can cost more to maintain on the flx would be the cvt.
well..... which model, which variant?
if its the 1.4 with the dsg, let me ask you this...
1)do like to gamble or play russian roulette?
- yes, this car is for you.
- no, resume to no2
2)are you in love with this particular model and have some savings in event things do go wrong?
- yes, well go ahead,
- no... stay the hell away.

if its the 1.6, well... reliability is alright i guess... but its nothing special in this configuration...
typical gearbox, typical engine. Nothing special, no dif from any other car out there BUT comes with the euro maintenance costs.
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well, i think i decided to get a new so that i don't have to take the gamble on maintenance costs. the latest model should be reliable, right? don't have much spare cash but am super in love with the model
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post Oct 7 2016, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 7 2016, 01:54 PM)
owai  innocent.gif
being called fanboy, ouch terasa cry.gif

its supposed to be a performance (or sporty at leastlah) car....  but ohh so true. Campros are basically suckky engines... for a 'sporty car' it's most powerful cps engine of this era cannot even hold up to similar engines by mitsu and honda from the 90's  sweat.gif

**but i do like the chassis itself tho....  whistling.gif  transkplant in the mitsu's and wallah! problem solved
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i'd put it under sporty coupes aka shampoo girl car (although nowadays they kenot afford such cars).
two door coupes that looks like sports car but aren't like the Toyota Sera, Honda CRZ, etc.

chassis was decent but nothing exceptional, good enough for it's asking price, but let's stick to stock specs no transplant and it's a fail.
even with a transplant the chassis dynamics will be off so it is still isn't a win yet.

let's see what real car manufacturers do....
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The diesel and hybrid is there for comparison sake.
Let's look at the Jazz vs Golf Gti.
A sports car vs a regular car not EEV.
The difference in range is 12miles.

Would someone happier getting a cheaper car and extra 12miles or in a GTI devil.gif

sos

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post Oct 7 2016, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 7 2016, 02:19 PM)
i'd put it under sporty coupes aka shampoo girl car (although nowadays they kenot afford such cars).
two door coupes that looks like sports car but aren't like the Toyota Sera, Honda CRZ, etc.

chassis was decent but nothing exceptional, good enough for it's asking price, but let's stick to stock specs no transplant and it's a fail.
even with a transplant the chassis dynamics will be off so it is still isn't a win yet.

let's see what real car manufacturers do....
user posted image

The diesel and hybrid is there for comparison sake.
Let's look at the Jazz vs Golf Gti.
A sports car vs a regular car not EEV.
The difference in range is 12miles.

Would someone happier getting a cheaper car and extra 12miles or in a GTI  devil.gif

sos
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haha good stuff cost alot here in malaysia.... on a budget well, susah sikit.......

that fc tho.... new tech electronic stuff really helps sips fuel.... my fc is almost double that gti..... shakehead.gif
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post Oct 7 2016, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 7 2016, 02:27 PM)
haha good stuff cost alot here in malaysia.... on a budget well, susah sikit.......
that fc tho.... new tech electronic stuff really helps sips fuel.... my fc is almost double that gti.....  shakehead.gif
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the emissions of my CTR would seem barbaric and fc like crap laugh.gif
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post Oct 7 2016, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 7 2016, 02:39 PM)
the emissions of my CTR would seem barbaric and fc like crap  laugh.gif
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ohh you drive a ctr?? naisss brows.gif
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post Oct 7 2016, 03:23 PM

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is toyota prius c a worthy car to get? 2012/2013 used car.
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post Oct 7 2016, 07:50 PM

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[quote=zenix,Oct 7 2016, 12:59 PM

From a manufacturers stand point they will only keep recycling the engine if it is economically viable after taking into consideration production cost, can keep up with current/future emissions standards, and if there are any design flaws.

Previously Honda used the K20 engine across it's range from Civic to Accord to CRV to Stream, etc.
There wasn't much design flaws and extracting power from it wasn't an issue.
However, it couldn't keep up with emission standards while at the same time being fuel efficient and powerful.
Which is why they switched to the R18 and R20 engines



Besides the engine and gearbox, how is the overall car maintenance?Any main problems with car?

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post Oct 9 2016, 06:28 PM

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1. Brand : Nissan Sentra / other reliable car?
2. Budget : below rm20k
3. New/Used/Unreg : Used unit
4. Specs : Standard, SG-L 1.6, etc if other car
5. Transmission : Auto
6. NA or FI : NA = Natural Aspirated
7. Type : Sedan
8. I work at Pahang. Every 2 weeks must go thru KL, Melaka, Penang by highway. To add some about me:

- i'm 27 but I don't mind standard car
- but i prefer interior (insulation, premium look)
- seldom pedal like crazy
- very schema one (wear seatbelt, hate loud exhaust sound)
- want cheap maintain + efficient FC
- reliable for next 5~10 years

My opinion: I found N16 Sentra 2005, 1.6 (A) with 150km mileage for RM18k. Worth it?
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post Oct 9 2016, 10:09 PM

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1. Brand: Toyota vios
2. Budget: RM30k
3. Used car
4. Specs.
5. Transmission: auto
6. Prefer natural
7. Type: Sedan

Should I get 1st version or 2nd version of car?

Thank you

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post Oct 10 2016, 12:08 AM

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is a toyota vios 2008 worth rm45k (getting from car dealer) otr ?
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post Oct 10 2016, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(wenzhenzhen @ Oct 9 2016, 10:09 PM)
1. Brand: Toyota
2. Budget: RM30k
3. Used car
4. Specs.
5. Transmission: auto
6. Prefer natural
7. Type: Sedan

Should I get 1st version or 2nd version of car?

Thank you
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erm.... 1st or second version of what..... toyota has a gazilion models and trims to select from...

QUOTE(kinglaw90 @ Oct 10 2016, 12:08 AM)
is a toyota vios 2008 worth rm45k (getting from car dealer) otr ?
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there is no way to answer this... depends on the condition of the car i guess.... if its basically brand new with less than 10km, yeah go ahead, if its been in 20 accidents and had no roof, i think its a bad idea......

anyway, the newer generation of 08 (iirc it was upddated in 08) can be found for around 40k+? otr.... the last of its batch models are easily available for lower than that

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