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post Oct 17 2016, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(albertpcl @ Oct 17 2016, 04:25 PM)
Tq @Veejay, mileage is close to 80,000km, my fren told me his aorcond got problem & may need change the compressor.
used car only offer him Rm59k
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im not buying the bit about the used car dealer offered him 59k but... generally, price is alright if its in good condition (no accidents, no funny stuff). If i were you, find out how much it costs to get that ac fixed.... then make a decision. I believe the ac is something mandatory for most malaysians (me excluded, i keep that ac off! saps precious power! unless it gets too hot whistling.gif )
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QUOTE(Adjansi @ Oct 12 2016, 10:23 PM)
Don't forget the amazing  Proton Preve CFE/turbo it can do 0-100 in 9.6 seconds.
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I thought he didn't want Proton.

QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 12 2016, 11:14 PM)
well..... his definition of acceptable acceleration = under 7..... apparently he needs to 'outaccelerate' most pipu at the lights  rolleyes.gif
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That's like VW Golf GTI territory laugh.gif
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QUOTE(smiling_leopard @ Oct 13 2016, 07:53 AM)
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2006 Skoda Octavia 1.8T - at your kind of budget you either need to learn how to take care of a car to enjoy it the way you want it to or settle for something cheap to run but isn't fun at all. Let's discuss about the former, here we have a nice 1800cc turbo car from Skoda, it is within your budget because Skoda is a dead brand in Malaysia thus although technically a dead brand if you bring your Skoda to Bermaz in Glenmarie they will still support your car for service and parts, no issue to get parts from them because they still have connections with the principal however don't expect prices to be cheap and parts always available some parts need to be air-flown thus although faster but won't be cheap. So this is where learning how to take care of a car and finding out what is compatible and what is common parts can help you reduce cost of upkeep significantly. A Skoda Octavia is basically the same as an Audi A4 B6 or VW Golf/Jetta MK5. You can use parts from them, and stockist do keep parts for these two brands because they're more common. Or if that part isn't critical you can always get a cheap compatible part from China. Certain parts like brake pads and absorbers don't need to be specific for that car, they're like light bulbs or battery, as long as it is the correct spec it will work. Skoda would be cheaper to buy but maintenance of same effort is put into other conti's like Pug, Merc, BMW would be about the same but you won't be able to get those brands as cheap.

2006 Honda Civic FD1 - so let's say you're a lazy person to do the above but want something decently powerful but maybe not a turbo and cheaper to run than a turbo then maybe you can consider something like this, the Civic FD is still a very popular car until now. The 1800cc although not as powerful as the 2000cc variant still can bring you to 200kmh without much issues. Maintenance wise it isn't going to be cheap like a Kancil except per visit bills above RM200.

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2006 BMW 120i - wanna tekan buy BMW don't play play cool2.gif

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apasal my recommended cars macam x best ranting.gif
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QUOTE(albertpcl @ Oct 17 2016, 04:25 PM)
Tq @Veejay, mileage is close to 80,000km, my fren told me his aorcond got problem & may need change the compressor.
used car only offer him Rm59k
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thats the average mileage, and I presume used car offered RM49k and not 59k, since he is selling it to you for 55k.

AC compressor is not too bad, its one time deal costing probably around 1-2k. Sonata sound proofing is alittle bad, hence you will hear the engine noise, you could get it done at accessories shop. Other than that its a nice comfortable ride, but dont except any surge of power...i would say, just nice for a family drive, top speed could easily hit 180-200kmh
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post Oct 17 2016, 04:51 PM

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apasal my recommended cars macam x best  ranting.gif
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ehh nu... alfas are good stuff!! me likes them just takut to own one haha...
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QUOTE(smiling_leopard @ Oct 13 2016, 08:03 PM)
How about preve turbo, Suzuki swift, Mazda 2 and Kia forte? Any comments
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Preve Turbo? Sounds fast but isn't and fuel consumption ain't great too, LOL. Like meeting a blind date from the internet with rumours she is wild in bed but when you meet her she is a prude......with halitosis. laugh.gif
Kia Forte are quite decent cars and normal maintenance isn't too expensive unless parts need to be changed.
Swift/Mazda2 cheaper to buy than a City/Vios but not as cheap to maintain but certainly fair by B-segment standards. Swift FC ain't that great. Mazda without Skyactiv ain't worth the spare parts price.

QUOTE(smiling_leopard @ Oct 14 2016, 06:41 AM)
Haha. About mod, maybe later. I just pick this car in the price range of my budget, base on mudah. For now, I dont really have any commitment, just spend money to eat, petrol and give some to my mom. Forgot to tell u, Min years I choosed is 2011 and 2012, I did find latio but also find other cars. Hehe. But I want car that have good handling, low or moderate fc and  low or moderate maintenance cost with no major breakdown.
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2011/2012 under 40k
good fc
cheap to maintain
fast on highways

doesn't exist.

QUOTE(NoNaM3z @ Oct 14 2016, 11:39 AM)
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Depends on how you look at it.
I think Honda Hybrid is superior because if the hybrid system fails then you can still drive it like a normal car.
Toyota Hybrid is superior in FC because it runs in battery mode and only requires the petrol engine for extra power when overtaking or as a range extender, but if you wanna make a pure electric car then Toyota Hybrid is better.

But since Malaysia isn't electric car friendly, I'm leaning more towards Honda Hybrids.

2014 Toyota Hilux 2.5TD - if fuel consumption is a priority then you should consider diesel engines, 800-1000km per tank of fuel is quite ordinary for these cars, of course if you buy a nice sedan car like BMW 320d, Ford Focus TDCI or Pug 508D they'll be more expensive to maintain because they lack critical mass, so think outside the box, buy a pickup, seating space is as good as a sedan for pickups nowadays and you get better vision sitting higher up the road, oh and a side side effect, nowadays all diesel engines come with a turbo charger so you get the great low end power of the diesel and the high end power from the turbo.

QUOTE(rickk @ Oct 14 2016, 01:50 PM)
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are you considering hybrids purely because they tend to have worst RV even good brands like Toyota/Honda or because of perceived better FC?
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post Oct 17 2016, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Oct 17 2016, 04:44 PM)
thats the average mileage, and I presume used car offered RM49k and not 59k, since he is selling it to you for 55k.

AC compressor is not too bad, its one time deal costing probably around 1-2k. Sonata sound proofing is alittle bad, hence you will hear the engine noise, you could get it done at accessories shop. Other than that its a nice comfortable ride, but dont except any surge of power...i would say, just nice for a family drive, top speed could easily hit 180-200kmh
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@VeeJay Thanks again
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QUOTE(MrSnorlax @ Oct 15 2016, 11:59 AM)
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2006 Proton Gen2 1.3 - usually in this price range you cannot get any decent cars, I usually don't suggest Proton but this criteria is an exception. Most cars within this price range are older cars like Proton Wira, Satria, Waja which lack safety features but they're bigger so should be better at absorbing impact -- i also understand why you don't like the Kancil because it is small and unsafe. Although not as safe as current Proton cars the Gen2 is a big leap from most cars within this price range except for conti's which have terrible RV but those would cost you alot of repair if anything happens while the Gen2 is relatively cheap to repair, fuel consumption is fair and it looks pretty decent for it's age.

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Choose Latio
Don't ask why
Just buy

QUOTE(shauyan @ Oct 15 2016, 09:02 PM)
Hi all, now stuck with 2012 livina x-gear and 2011-2012 vios.. any comment? Already owned a city, want to buy one more family car for wife
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Estima?
Wish?
Vellfire?

ladies usually drive those.

QUOTE(limkopi @ Oct 16 2016, 05:49 PM)
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2001 Proton Satria GTI - brows.gif

QUOTE(albertpcl @ Oct 17 2016, 12:13 PM)
Hi all, currently driving 96yr old corolla seg 1.6.
Plan to buy over my freind's 2012yr sonata yf , he offer me Rm55k, is it worth to buy ?
Thank you.
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tbh if it is that good you should advise him to keep the car laugh.gif

2011 Honda Accord 2.0 - Sonata might have more gadgets and accessories but they're also pretty expensive to maintain and even at higher maintenance price the engine is still pretty weak, might as well consider a Honda. This particular advert shows a 2011 car which is just a year older but we all know the Honda Accord looks better, performs better and also is cheaper to maintain. Plus with Proton Perdana being a rebadge version of this car you don't have to worry about running out of spare parts anytime soon.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 17 2016, 05:32 PM)
wow.....

if i were him, i would inspect that gti very closely..... usually not so cheap...... if it truely is good... its actually worth its asking price. from the pics it generally looks good, nice even....

though got to see why the rear seal is looks like its been taken off
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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 17 2016, 05:44 PM)
2006 BMW 120i - wanna tekan buy BMW don't play play  cool2.gif
6Cyl 2.0, wah this one must be flying!! rclxm9.gif
But too bad money will also fly for maintainance sad.gif

QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 17 2016, 06:32 PM)
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Choose Latio
Don't ask why
Just buy
LOL biggrin.gif
Nissan Latio hatchback, put a set of adjstables, new set of tyres aaand the handling he is looking for will come!! rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(keretaburuk @ Oct 17 2016, 12:40 PM)
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You bought it new or second hand.
If safety and fuel consumption are the main concerns then you made a good choice.
Although you could've saved some money with similar features in the Bezza or Persona if you bought new.
But all-in-all a decent car, just that it isn't as cheap to maintain as other A-segments but for your wife's usage should be just every 5000km change oil and filters only so cheap -- it only gets expensive if you use the car alot with high mileage and going places with bad roads so you'd need to change absorbers, bearings, etc.

Frankly, I've no idea what kind of collaboration Proton-Suzuki is working on and what are the output vehicles.

QUOTE(Archmage Warlic @ Oct 17 2016, 02:32 PM)
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I think the full spec Bezza is a great car for your requirements and budget.
I think of it as a mini Vios, smaller than Vios but has similar amount of safety and performance features.
If you want the car fast and willing to pay cash, do PM me.

QUOTE(Kieff @ Oct 17 2016, 04:10 PM)
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The real season is Skyactiv.
It is such a game changer for Mazda.
Because before Skyactiv any Mazda car rely on its good looks, good handling, good build quality with excellent fit and finish since Zoom Zoom years.
After Skyactiv any Mazda car still have the above qualities but with an engine with hybrid and near diesel like fuel efficiency.
Thus, older Mazda6 although are nice if buyers have a choice they'd wanna get one with Skyactiv if it is available on the market.
You can try to squeeze some extra discounts from the seller if you don't mind to not have Skyactiv.

2006 Merc E500 with 5.0 v8 engine - since you're okay with a wagon why not go top end with this crazy monster? If I'm not mistaken the meter shows above 300kmh brows.gif devil.gif

2011 Suzuki Kizashi 2.4 - on a similar level of performance, looks, premium interior and maintenance upkeep costing is this car. The interior although it from Suzuki known for supermini's is very matured and high quality, if I blind folded you and put you into the car and removed the blind fold (and cover the logo on the steering) you'd probably be thinking you're in some kinda conti like Alfa Romeo or Volvo.

QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 17 2016, 04:43 PM)
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more likely the dealer told him 59k market rate before seeing the car then offered him 49k after accessing the condition.
do remember used car dealer offer prices for himself to earn, fix any damage, and buffer for depreciation.
that's why sellers usually can get a better price dealing direct.

why you off the a/c?
your car not underpowered also brows.gif

i'd like the 156 but damn it is a nightmare.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 17 2016, 05:05 PM)
2011/2012 under 40k
good fc
cheap to maintain
fast on highways

doesn't exist.
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Hahaha u are right, thanks for all the suggestions. I will look to every car u suggested and learn about them
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 17 2016, 05:40 PM)
wow.....

if i were him, i would inspect that gti very closely..... usually not so cheap...... if it truely is good... its actually worth its asking price. from the pics it generally looks good, nice even....

though got to see why the rear seal is looks like its been taken off
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a few theories:

1. banjir car then when they put in the new carpeting the rear wasn't done up nicely.
2. rear end accident, repaired now he wanna get rid of it.
3. nothing wrong but many maintenance stuff catching up and one shot need to do might be expensive so they just sell easier.

generally true SGTI's are 15k and above but under 25k.

QUOTE(g9000z @ Oct 17 2016, 05:49 PM)
6Cyl 2.0, wah this one must be flying!!  rclxm9.gif
But too bad money will also fly for maintainance  sad.gif
LOL  biggrin.gif
Nissan Latio hatchback, put a set of adjstables, new set of tyres aaand the handling he is looking for will come!!  rclxms.gif
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if someone expects performance from a car that is cheap to maintain they're fools.
even for a decent car like the Civic FD1 with a 1800cc engine which is quite fuel saving and gives good power output for me can't really give the kinda performance i'm looking for if people really want to talk about performance, pickup is not bad and it can reach above 200kmh but it doesn't have high speed stability. Adding better shocks, bigger rims and grippy tires help but those add weight and grippy tires are good for traction but you'd need move fuel to make it move and usually threadwear is terrible so extra money spent on tires......but if you truely like going fast you've gotta put economy out the window.
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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 17 2016, 06:06 PM)
a few theories:

1. banjir car then when they put in the new carpeting the rear wasn't done up nicely.
2. rear end accident, repaired now he wanna get rid of it. < this would be my no1 suspect.... but if its good, this is a very good offer
3. nothing wrong but many maintenance stuff catching up and one shot need to do might be expensive so they just sell easier.

generally true SGTI's are 15k and above but under 25k.

if someone expects performance from a car that is cheap to maintain they're fools.
even for a decent car like the Civic FD1 with a 1800cc engine which is quite fuel saving and gives good power output for me can't really give the kinda performance i'm looking for if people really want to talk about performance, pickup is not bad and it can reach above 200kmh but it doesn't have high speed stability. Adding better shocks, bigger rims and grippy tires help but those add weight and grippy tires are good for traction but you'd need move fuel to make it move and usually threadwear is terrible so extra money spent on tires......but if you truely like going fast you've gotta put economy out the window.
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not so expensive to maintain adelah, but cheap? no....

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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 17 2016, 05:58 PM)

why you off the a/c?
your car not underpowered also  brows.gif

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to be honest... i dont know why... i guess cause i really felt a huge dif when i turned off the ac in my saga last time.... so yeah do the same now. There is still alittle dif, but not significant. (also mitsu/potong punya ac has no 'reasonably cool' setting, it basically just freezes me

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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 17 2016, 04:44 PM)
I thought he didn't want Proton.
That's like VW Golf GTI territory  laugh.gif
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2006 Skoda Octavia 1.8T - at your kind of budget you either need to learn how to take care of a car to enjoy it the way you want it to or settle for something cheap to run but isn't fun at all. Let's discuss about the former, here we have a nice 1800cc turbo car from Skoda, it is within your budget because Skoda is a dead brand in Malaysia thus although technically a dead brand if you bring your Skoda to Bermaz in Glenmarie they will still support your car for service and parts, no issue to get parts from them because they still have connections with the principal however don't expect prices to be cheap and parts always available some parts need to be air-flown thus although faster but won't be cheap. So this is where learning how to take care of a car and finding out what is compatible and what is common parts can help you reduce cost of upkeep significantly. A Skoda Octavia is basically the same as an Audi A4 B6 or VW Golf/Jetta MK5. You can use parts from them, and stockist do keep parts for these two brands because they're more common. Or if that part isn't critical you can always get a cheap compatible part from China. Certain parts like brake pads and absorbers don't need to be specific for that car, they're like light bulbs or battery, as long as it is the correct spec it will work. Skoda would be cheaper to buy but maintenance of same effort is put into other conti's like Pug, Merc, BMW would be about the same but you won't be able to get those brands as cheap.

2006 Honda Civic FD1 - so let's say you're a lazy person to do the above but want something decently powerful but maybe not a turbo and cheaper to run than a turbo then maybe you can consider something like this, the Civic FD is still a very popular car until now. The 1800cc although not as powerful as the 2000cc variant still can bring you to 200kmh without much issues. Maintenance wise it isn't going to be cheap like a Kancil except per visit bills above RM200.
2006 BMW 120i - wanna tekan buy BMW don't play play  cool2.gif
apasal my recommended cars macam x best  ranting.gif
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Its easy to get loan for 2006 car? How about the interest rate? I read some bank dont give loan for old car. Is that right?

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QUOTE(smiling_leopard @ Oct 17 2016, 06:00 PM)
Hahaha u are right, thanks for all the suggestions. I will look to every car u suggested and learn about them
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Think about what you really want and what you can afford then discuss again.

QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 17 2016, 06:15 PM)
not so expensive to maintain adelah, but cheap? no....
bolded bit 100%
to be honest... i dont know why... i guess cause i really felt a huge dif when i turned off the ac in my saga last time.... so yeah do the same now. There is still alittle dif, but not significant. (also mitsu/potong punya ac has no 'reasonably cool' setting, it basically just freezes me
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Want something with some muscles to overtake roadhogs going the speed limit then look for some Japanese C-segment with 1800cc and above.
Latio with 1800cc engine is a decent choice, it is quite light, should be able to overtake irritating Camry's cruising at 110kmh on the fast lane with ease if you drop a gear or two. But to do that on a lesser car like a Toyota Vios for example you'd push the engine to an inch of it's life, wait a long time for it to build up speed after initially going from 80 to 130kmh fast, and balls of steel to push and cruise B-segments above 160kmh.

If that is what they want then maintenance can still be relatively cheap within the segment/class limits.

However, if you got angry you kept getting flashed for hogging the fast lane eventhough you're pushing your economical car above 140kmh often at highways by Mazda6's, Mini Coopers, and turbo diesel pickups then of course you'd need something that is not only faster than them but can be faster than them and handle high speeds in a stable manner.

e.g. in a road without much traffic like KL-JB or KL-PG

A Vios 1500cc getting flashed to move aside by a Ford Fiesta 1600cc is more or less a stalemate as both are about there in terms of performance.
A Vios 1500cc getting flashed to move aside by a Honda Civic 1800cc of course even if the Vios driver is hot tempered and tekan his car max max it might go like 180kmh before he chicken out due to vibrations, noise and tire grip (VNT). Most likely a Vios would dare chase a Civic to like around 160-170kmh only, but the VNT is still there but for a Civic maintaining 160kmh for a long time until that pesky Vios guy chicken out is relatively easy. Then comes a VW Golf GTI flashing the Civic away, the Civic will give way because although the driver knows his car can go 200kmh it ain't going to be very stable at those speeds for longer distance especially against a car of the class of a VW Golf GTI -- which is more performance orientated -- but if it was a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry the possibility of those D-segments chickening out is there because they're also not meant as cruisers above 200kmh more like comfortable cruisers at 160-180kmh.

Civic level performance, still attainable and relatively cheap for it's segment/class. RM200 and above for normal service.
GTI level performance, is minimum RM350 because decent 0w-40 engine oil for such cars are priced at RM250 at the lowest, Petronas Syntium 7000 0w-40 prices start around RM279 at the petrol stations.

And RM350 is considered cheap for that kinda of segment/class. lol.gif

QUOTE(smiling_leopard @ Oct 17 2016, 06:16 PM)
Its easy to get loan for 2006 car? How about the interest rate? I read some bank dont give loan for old car. Is that right?
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Under 10 years still can.
So 2016 now, oldest you should find for loan is 2006 car.
Loan period and interest might not be that great though.
But lets say you took a loan for a 2006 Skoda Octavia which is worth only RM23,000.
It is a really small amount if spread to 9 years so usually they'd force you for 5years so got "meat" especially when they charge interest brows.gif
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Oct 17 2016, 04:43 PM)
im not buying the bit about the used car dealer offered him 59k but... generally, price is alright if its in good condition (no accidents, no funny stuff). If i were you, find out how much it costs to get that ac fixed.... then make a decision. I believe the ac is something mandatory for most malaysians (me excluded, i keep that ac off! saps precious power! unless it gets too hot whistling.gif )
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Hi everyone, first time car buyer looking for a brand new car <RM90k (I've checked my finances and considering total cost of ownership that's the budget I'm setting).

Qualities in terms of importance:
1. Reliable
2. Looks good
3. Decent resale value
4. Decent fuel consumption
5. Preferably sedan

(for now I'm eyeing Mazda2, Ford Fiesta & Honda City. If I could get higher valued vehicles for under 90k with rebate, let me know as well)

Could you share some model suggestions and your thoughts please? Thank you!
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QUOTE(Kieff @ Oct 17 2016, 04:10 PM)
Dear all,
I have been driving an used cefiroA33 for a decade, thinking of replacing it to a D-segment car too. Been looking at Mazda 6 2013/2014. Many reviews i read told that it is a great car, but why it is not selling? Would maintenance is an issue? Shall i go for 2.0 or 2.5? As it is not urgent indeed, shall i wait till 2017, as would the price make any different? Should i consider other makers that i should also look into at? Many thanks!

1. Brand : Mazda 6 (2.0/2.5)
2. Budget : 60~90k)
3. New/Used/Unreg : used
4. Specs : D-segment car
5. Transmission : auto
6. NA or FI :
7. Type : 2013/2014
8. Remarks : wagon is acceptable!
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well, I definitely want skyactive, can my budget meet it? I studied Nissan teena's price is abt in this range…
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QUOTE(zenix @ Oct 17 2016, 06:43 PM)
Want something with some muscles to overtake roadhogs going the speed limit then look for some Japanese C-segment with 1800cc and above.
Latio with 1800cc engine is a decent choice, it is quite light, should be able to overtake irritating Camry's cruising at 110kmh on the fast lane with ease if you drop a gear or two. But to do that on a lesser car like a Toyota Vios for example you'd push the engine to an inch of it's life, wait a long time for it to build up speed after initially going from 80 to 130kmh fast, and balls of steel to push and cruise B-segments above 160kmh. LOL!

If that is what they want then maintenance can still be relatively cheap within the segment/class limits.

However, if you got angry you kept getting flashed for hogging the fast lane eventhough you're pushing your economical car above 140kmh often at highways by Mazda6's, Mini Coopers, and turbo diesel pickups then of course you'd need something that is not only faster than them but can be faster than them and handle high speeds in a stable manner.

e.g. in a road without much traffic like KL-JB or KL-PG

A Vios 1500cc getting flashed to move aside by a Ford Fiesta 1600cc is more or less a stalemate as both are about there in terms of performance.
A Vios 1500cc getting flashed to move aside by a Honda Civic 1800cc of course even if the Vios driver is hot tempered and tekan his car max max it might go like 180kmh before he chicken out due to vibrations, noise and tire grip (VNT). Most likely a Vios would dare chase a Civic to like around 160-170kmh only, but the VNT is still there but for a Civic maintaining 160kmh for a long time until that pesky Vios guy chicken out is relatively easy. Then comes a VW Golf GTI flashing the Civic away, the Civic will give way because although the driver knows his car can go 200kmh it ain't going to be very stable at those speeds for longer distance especially against a car of the class of a VW Golf GTI -- which is more performance orientated -- but if it was a Honda Accord or Toyota Camry the possibility of those D-segments chickening out is there because they're also not meant as cruisers above 200kmh more like comfortable cruisers at 160-180kmh.

Civic level performance, still attainable and relatively cheap for it's segment/class. RM200 and above for normal service.
GTI level performance, is minimum RM350 because decent 0w-40 engine oil for such cars are priced at RM250 at the lowest, Petronas Syntium 7000 0w-40 prices start around RM279 at the petrol stations.

And RM350 is considered cheap for that kinda of segment/class. lol.gif
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now, im a fella very happily puttering away on the left most or centre lane. I like the car im driving now, no real need to get to my destination quickly hehe. Even have a P sticker on the back windscreen (now i think about it, not sure if thats legal, should check that). Sometimes some annoying fellas (strangely usually myvi's and civics, and an occasional vios) cucuk my buntut too close, then i tekan and larikan diri. most will give up when it comes to the bends laugh.gif

if you see the my old junk with a slightly obscured P sticker puttering away slowly on the left lane, probably me biggrin.gif

a random statement... i have something against fd1's.... just really dislike those things...


QUOTE(Kieff @ Oct 18 2016, 07:31 AM)
well, I definitely want skyactive, can my budget meet it? I studied Nissan teena's price is abt in this range…
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skyactive means you need to go for the lastest model. that would probably set you back much closer to 100k (probably 110-120k in shops)
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post Oct 18 2016, 03:15 PM

Kambing Lembu
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hello all!

Im selling off my car, so got about 20k dp. planning to get either Bezza at 45k or myvi at 50k.

any other choices for auto car about 60k? persona / saga kenot, somehow somewhere proton dowan liao

new ya! thanks!

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