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kanikani
post Nov 23 2017, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(XXXhelios @ Nov 23 2017, 02:41 PM)
PwC offered me the permanent job position instead of the 4 month one. If they offered me the 4 month contract I will choose EY directly, haha, I don’t like to take the risk.

I choose PwC because I have good internship experience there and PwC have the Industry Xplorer program for fresh graduate, which give me a chance to try different industry. However both EY and PwC are good tho, PWC just my own preference
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just a bit curious
but is it true that the minimum cgpa for pwc is 3.5?
cause i heard from a senior and some friends that other than pwc the other firms only require around 3.0 to 3.2

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post Nov 23 2017, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(kanikani @ Nov 23 2017, 03:47 PM)
just a bit curious
but is it true that the minimum cgpa for pwc is 3.5?
cause i hear from a senior and some friends that other than pwc the other firms only require around 3.0 to 3.2
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Nop, cause my cgpa just 3.3, I think PwC Requirement is 3.0 , if not mistaken
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post Nov 23 2017, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(XXXhelios @ Nov 23 2017, 02:41 PM)
PwC offered me the permanent job position instead of the 4 month one. If they offered me the 4 month contract I will choose EY directly, haha, I don’t like to take the risk.

I choose PwC because I have good internship experience there and PwC have the Industry Xplorer program for fresh graduate, which give me a chance to try different industry. However both EY and PwC are good tho, PWC just my own preference
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Wow, that's good for you because you got the permanent one. But I am gonna make do with the opportunities presented to me, in this case, the 4 months contract.

May I know how long does the interview last? Are there any questions that you did not expect being asked but were asked by the interviewers?
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post Nov 23 2017, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(kanikani @ Nov 23 2017, 03:47 PM)
just a bit curious
but is it true that the minimum cgpa for pwc is 3.5?
cause i heard from a senior and some friends that other than pwc the other firms only require around 3.0 to 3.2
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I think as long as your CGPA is 3.0 above, you will be alright.

Mine is only 3.2 and I haven't completed ACCA yet but they invited me to their assessment session.

Passed it and awaiting the interview day to come. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 23 2017, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(doublej2 @ Nov 23 2017, 07:33 PM)
Wow, that's good for you because you got the permanent one. But I am gonna make do with the opportunities presented to me, in this case, the 4 months contract.

May I know how long does the interview last? Are there any questions that you did not expect being asked but were asked by the interviewers?
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They didn’t give technical question at all, all behavioral question. The interviewer will have a evaluation form and they will ask the question and give mark on it

The interview is quite serious, not like chit chatting. You can’t answer the question too general, you have to give them example, like the question do you have experience working with people that have different culture? You can’t just answer yes I do, you have to give her the whole story. They do ask me about why you result drop in certain sem, I have to tell the truth and tell them what I learn from it and what the changes I made. The most difficult question I have is do I apply accounting standard on any event, I just tell them I just start working and till now ... no

In short, you have to be yourself, those answer is all about your past experience and is difficult to faked a story that moment
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post Nov 23 2017, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(XXXhelios @ Nov 23 2017, 07:51 PM)
They didn’t give technical question at all, all behavioral question. The interviewer will have a evaluation form and they will ask the question and give mark on it

The interview is quite serious, not like chit chatting. You can’t answer the question too general, you have to give them example, like the question do you have experience working with people that have different culture? You can’t just answer yes I do, you have to give her the whole story. They do ask me about why you result drop in certain sem, I have to tell the truth and tell them what I learn from it and what the changes I made. The most difficult question I have is do I apply accounting standard on any event, I just tell them I just start working and till now ... no

In short, you have to be yourself, those answer is all about your past experience and is difficult to faked a story that moment
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Hmm, thank you so much for your feedback! Gotta prepare for the interview then! So many strong candidates, not sure if I'm cut out for the job. mega_shok.gif

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post Nov 24 2017, 12:05 PM

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Went to pwc interview, the interview lasted about 15 or 20 min, all the questions i know how to answer because i was fully prepared this time, but i noticed:

1. I was expecting more questions from him, such as why pwc, current firm experience, strength weaknesses, why audit, work with different culture or not, what's the length of bus/airplane etc. But he didn't ask, good sign or bad?

2. One positive sign i heard is to have 1 hour interview, mine didn't last that long, is it bad?

3. His smile was bright while inviting me to room, but during the interview he's not smiling, I'm not sure whether he's just being serious, or he's getting turned off by me. Because at the beginning of introducing myself i may seem like i memorized the words beforehand, I'm not sure if this is no no. But overall i would say i presented myself very well.

Please advice, i have mixed feelings about the outcome

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post Nov 24 2017, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Nov 24 2017, 12:05 PM)
Went to pwc interview, the interview lasted about 15 or 20 min, all the questions i know how to answer because i was fully prepared this time, but i noticed:

1. I was expecting more questions from him, such as why pwc, current firm experience, strength weaknesses, why audit, work with different culture or not, what's the length of bus/airplane etc. But he didn't ask, good sign or bad?

2. One positive sign i heard is to have 1 hour interview, mine didn't last that long, is it bad?

3. His smile was bright while inviting me to room, but during the interview he's not smiling, I'm not sure whether he's just being serious, or he's getting turned off by me. Because at the beginning of introducing myself i may seem like i memorized the words beforehand, I'm not sure if this is no no. But overall i would say i presented myself very well.

Please advice, i have mixed feelings about the outcome
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1. Interview should be simple and straightforward. I think most audit managers are busy and want to get back to their job
2. Probably they have other candidate. Do you see others there? Or is it near lunch time or late evening?
3. Not relevant. You should be more careful if he smiling the whole time. They will normally eat you for breakfast.
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post Nov 24 2017, 04:32 PM

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Hey, guys. Im now pursuing Master degree of accounting and finance and currently working in a small audit firm. I m considering to join big firm on next year as I need to give 2 months notice. if I join big 4, do i still have time manage to study and do assignment?? feeling struggle.
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QUOTE(issabel @ Nov 24 2017, 04:32 PM)
Hey, guys. Im now pursuing Master degree of accounting and finance and currently working in a small audit firm. I m considering to join big firm on next year as I need to give 2 months notice. if I join big 4, do i still have time manage to study and do assignment??  feeling struggle.
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I really doubt so. I have colleague who did that, but has no time at all to even do research and write assignment, in the end gave up and quited the course.
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post Nov 24 2017, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(issabel @ Nov 24 2017, 04:32 PM)
Hey, guys. Im now pursuing Master degree of accounting and finance and currently working in a small audit firm. I m considering to join big firm on next year as I need to give 2 months notice. if I join big 4, do i still have time manage to study and do assignment??  feeling struggle.
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Why don’t study professional paper instead of master? If you really plan to going into big firm next time!
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post Nov 24 2017, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(Topace111 @ Nov 24 2017, 04:00 PM)
1. Interview should be simple and straightforward. I think most audit managers are busy and want to get back to their job
2. Probably they have other candidate. Do you see others there? Or is it near lunch time or late evening?
3. Not relevant. You should be more careful if he smiling the whole time. They will normally eat you for breakfast.
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1. If they have no time they shouldn't conduct the interview I guess, if manager didn't ask enough, he/she cannot know the applicant better, I wonder how they arrive at a hiring decision? Based on mood? Looks? I'm quite worry if what you said in point 1 is true because it would mean the hiring rate is based on luck alone. So many questions he didn't ask me, which means I will have less chance to present myself. On the other hand, I do hope he ended the interview so soon is because that he had made his mind to hire or not, hopefully positive answer...

2. I didn't see any candidate around me. Maybe I'm the last one? Morning by the way

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post Nov 24 2017, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Nov 24 2017, 12:05 PM)
Went to pwc interview, the interview lasted about 15 or 20 min, all the questions i know how to answer because i was fully prepared this time, but i noticed:

1. I was expecting more questions from him, such as why pwc, current firm experience, strength weaknesses, why audit, work with different culture or not, what's the length of bus/airplane etc. But he didn't ask, good sign or bad?

2. One positive sign i heard is to have 1 hour interview, mine didn't last that long, is it bad?

3. His smile was bright while inviting me to room, but during the interview he's not smiling, I'm not sure whether he's just being serious, or he's getting turned off by me. Because at the beginning of introducing myself i may seem like i memorized the words beforehand, I'm not sure if this is no no. But overall i would say i presented myself very well.

Please advice, i have mixed feelings about the outcome
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What are the main questions that he asked you? wink.gif
Any technical questions?

That's quite weird, no str/weakness. Maybe they have already set their mind to employ you since you have ACCA qualification? brows.gif
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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Nov 24 2017, 07:45 PM)
1. If they have no time they shouldn't conduct the interview I guess, if manager didn't ask enough, he/she cannot know the applicant better, I wonder how they arrive at a hiring decision? Based on mood? Looks? I'm quite worry if what you said in point 1 is true because it would mean the hiring rate is based on luck alone. So many questions he didn't ask me, which means I will have less chance to present myself. On the other hand, I do hope he ended the interview so soon is because that he had made his mind to hire or not, hopefully positive answer...

2. I didn't see any candidate around me. Maybe I'm the last one? Morning by the way
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About the 1), I have an example related to your concern

Lets say there are 20 finalists, all of them are well-fitted for the job.
But only 10 need to be hired. So how to choose?

Then external factor will come in.
This guy is more handsome so I choose him, this person looks honest, this girl looks beautiful.
Uhmm this one looks chubby(fat) no thanks, this has a lot of pimples also no...

this is also another factor, i think personally
like of course you want someone you like to work with you
thats why first impression is important

so always try to strike every factor
because at the final stage, everyone is the same
same qualification, zero to little working experience, etc

of course this is only applies to freshie or to compete with person with the same level as you
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QUOTE(doublej2 @ Nov 24 2017, 07:58 PM)
What are the main questions that he asked you?  wink.gif
Any technical questions?

That's quite weird, no str/weakness. Maybe they have already set their mind to employ you since you have ACCA qualification?  brows.gif
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No technical at all even though I'm working as an auditor in another firm now.
Ask about your background / tell me about yourself, some stories to prove what you said is true, that's it.

ACCA affiliate everywhere lols, not special anymore
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post Nov 24 2017, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Nov 24 2017, 08:22 PM)
No technical at all even though I'm working as an auditor in another firm now.
Ask about your background / tell me about yourself, some stories to prove what you said is true, that's it.

ACCA affiliate everywhere lols, not special anymore
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You are interviewing for the 4 months contract or permanent position?

Maybe being in the 4 months one will have lesser requirements hence shorter interviews, who knows?
Think positively icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Nov 24 2017, 08:03 PM)
About the 1), I have an example related to your concern

Lets say there are 20 finalists, all of them are well-fitted for the job.
But only 10 need to be hired. So how to choose?

Then external factor will come in.
This guy is more handsome so I choose him, this person looks honest, this girl looks beautiful.
Uhmm this one looks chubby(fat) no thanks, this has a lot of pimples also no...

this is also another factor, i think personally
like of course you want someone you like to work with you
thats why first impression is important

so always try to strike every factor
because at the final stage, everyone is the same
same qualification, zero to little working experience, etc

of course this is only applies to freshie or to compete with person with the same level as you
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In my opinion I think male interviewer will prefer females? All my male interviewers rejected me, but female interviewers love me, I'm quite good looking btw.
I was praying for a female interviewer in pwc but nope, I hope things do go well.
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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Nov 24 2017, 12:05 PM)
Went to pwc interview, the interview lasted about 15 or 20 min, all the questions i know how to answer because i was fully prepared this time, but i noticed:

1. I was expecting more questions from him, such as why pwc, current firm experience, strength weaknesses, why audit, work with different culture or not, what's the length of bus/airplane etc. But he didn't ask, good sign or bad?

2. One positive sign i heard is to have 1 hour interview, mine didn't last that long, is it bad?

3. His smile was bright while inviting me to room, but during the interview he's not smiling, I'm not sure whether he's just being serious, or he's getting turned off by me. Because at the beginning of introducing myself i may seem like i memorized the words beforehand, I'm not sure if this is no no. But overall i would say i presented myself very well.

Please advice, i have mixed feelings about the outcome
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from the way you wrote the above, looks like the chance is quite slim to be honest
however, anything can happen bro.. well wishes
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QUOTE(Sasuke95 @ Nov 24 2017, 08:32 PM)
In my opinion I think male interviewer will prefer females? All my male interviewers rejected me, but female interviewers love me, I'm quite good looking btw.
I was praying for a female interviewer in pwc but nope, I hope things do go well.
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Yep law of attraction bro

if you lengzhai, fit, wear nicely, talk like gentleman, then female interviewer will tend to favor you more
same goes to girls lah vice versa mah

but I think you crossed the line abit? About well-prepared and over-prepared for the interview
becuz I saw you even prepared for some question like 'whats the length of bus/airplane'
is this even related to audit meh laugh.gif

because if i were the interviewer, and you answered me an exact amount like 9.5 meter, I would just think this person is good at memorizing, nothing special
but if you improvise and answer like this(i simply make up the answer ya)
"A bus is about the length of 2.5 sedan cars. 2 of me equals to a car. And Im about 1.75m tall. So a sedan car is about 3.5m. Then a bus is maybe about 10m."

Ya know something like improvisation? I think that answer will better than giving the exact length of a bus.

Because normally our english is not that good at speaking, you can easily spot a person does he memorize a whole answer or say whatever he knows in his mind.
If I know this guy memorized everything from a script, then whats the point of interview? Because every question I ask you will just pour out the answer you had memorized.
Then how do I know more about you? I think this is also one of the factors bah hmm.gif

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QUOTE(SmallPenguin @ Nov 24 2017, 09:05 PM)
Yep law of attraction bro

if you lengzhai, fit, wear nicely, talk like gentleman, then female interviewer will tend to favor you more
same goes to girls lah vice versa mah

but I think you crossed the line abit? About well-prepared and over-prepared for the interview
becuz I saw you even prepared for some question like 'whats the length of bus/airplane'
is this even related to audit meh laugh.gif

because if i were the interviewer, and you answered me an exact amount like 9.5 meter, I would just think this person is good at memorizing, nothing special
but if you improvise and answer like this(i simply make up the answer ya)
"A bus is about the length of 2.5 sedan cars. 2 of me equals to a car. And Im about 1.75m tall. So a sedan car is about 3.5m. Then a bus is maybe about 10m."

Ya know something like improvisation? I think that answer will better than giving the exact length of a bus.

Because normally our english is not that good at speaking, you can easily spot a person does he memorize a whole answer or say whatever he knows in his mind.
If I know this guy memorized everything from a script, then whats the point of interview? Because every question I ask you will just pour out the answer you had memorized.
Then how do I know more about you? I think this is also one of the factors bah hmm.gif
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Yeah I tried to cover as many questions as possible, because I'm not the person who can promptly answer everything, even though the story really happened before I couldn't explain it properly if you ask me on the spot, I need to prepare.

The questions (bus length) clearly is not related to audit, more like how you will react to the question, I also already planned the answer, similar to what you made up, but a refined version. I wouldn't say the exact length directly, no point.

And yes that's what I mean, in the beginning I'm afraid I may looked like I already memorized the script, but along the way I acted more natural even though it is from the script as well. But do note that whatever is in my script is real, just that I need to structure the words and sequence properly so I can present it.

I'm afraid he will noticed that I have a script in mind and doesn't want to continue interviewing further, but in the positive side it could be viewed as this person is fully prepared, the interpretation is different from person to person, I hope he interpreted in the positive way.

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