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post Apr 20 2025, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Apr 19 2025, 09:48 AM)
May I ask, are you working in Spore but staying in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(dwRK @ Apr 20 2025, 03:39 PM)
if work oversea... filed cp21... no need to file local tax anymore... but looks like you didn't...

also is tax relief... you are not getting 5k back...
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I started working in Singapore in September 2024, so I would have stayed more than 180 days in Malaysia in 2024. Does that mean I’m considered a tax resident in Malaysia instead of Singapore?

As for tax reliefs, whether I fill them in or not doesn’t affect the tax amount since I’ll be paying RM 0 for 2024 anyway. But I’m still considering whether to submit the pelepasan (relief claims) or not.
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post Apr 20 2025, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(jiaen0509 @ Apr 20 2025, 07:17 PM)
I started working in Singapore in September 2024, so I would have stayed more than 180 days in Malaysia in 2024. Does that mean I’m considered a tax resident in Malaysia instead of Singapore?

As for tax reliefs, whether I fill them in or not doesn’t affect the tax amount since I’ll be paying RM 0 for 2024 anyway. But I’m still considering whether to submit the pelepasan (relief claims) or not.
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jan - aug... tax residency Malaysia... but why income zero for 2024?

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post Apr 20 2025, 07:52 PM

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hello does anyone know if i can claim a phone bill that's not under my name under tax relief if:
- i pay for it and i have proof of payment
- my own number is on it

appreciate any advice!
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post Apr 20 2025, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(jiaen0509 @ Apr 20 2025, 07:17 PM)
I started working in Singapore in September 2024, so I would have stayed more than 180 days in Malaysia in 2024. Does that mean I’m considered a tax resident in Malaysia instead of Singapore?
if you hv an open tax file you are required to make ITR for earning made in Malaysia from Jan till Aug 2024.
You are also required to make ITR declaration annually even when you does not hv any income earned or derived in Malaysia as long as you still hv an open tax file with lhdn.

You are also required to make ITR to IRS for your Spore income earned from Sept to Dec 2024 eventhough you hv not stayed more than 183 days in Spore in 2024.

"Foreigners issued with a work pass that is valid for at least 1 year will also be treated as a tax resident.

However, your tax residency status will be reviewed at the point of tax clearance when you cease your employment based on the tax residency rules. If your stay in Singapore is less than 183 days, you will be regarded as a non-resident."

Working out my tax residency

https://www.iras.gov.sg/taxes/individual-in...y-tax-residency


As for tax reliefs, whether I fill them in or not doesn’t affect the tax amount since I’ll be paying RM 0 for 2024 anyway. But I’m still considering whether to submit the pelepasan (relief claims) or not.
If you have an open tax file, you will still need to submit the annual ITR declaration to lhdn eventhough you does not hv any taxable income or income earned or derived in Malaysia.
So you are advised to continue to submit it annually.

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This post has been edited by MUM: Apr 20 2025, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(miraclecrush @ Apr 20 2025, 07:52 PM)
hello does anyone know if i can claim a phone bill that's not under my name under tax relief if:
- i pay for it and i have proof of payment
- my own number is on it

appreciate any advice!
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the phone bill is not under your name,
You got proof that you paid for it...

Can the named phone bill owner ask you to pay for him (online with documented account transaction proof that you did pay for it) and he paid you back after that through cash?

With this doubt and possibility, thus i think it is better not claim tax relief on it.
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post Apr 21 2025, 01:48 PM

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dont you think malaysia donation tax deductible is never attractive and nearly nobody does that.

in Singapore, cash donation is given at 2.5 times deductables
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post Apr 21 2025, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Apr 21 2025, 01:48 PM)
dont you think malaysia donation tax deductible is never attractive and nearly nobody does that.

in Singapore, cash donation is given at 2.5 times deductables
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Those who donated normally do it for a cause that they believed it will help and have the means to do it.
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QUOTE(jiaen0509 @ Apr 20 2025, 07:17 PM)
I started working in Singapore in September 2024, so I would have stayed more than 180 days in Malaysia in 2024. Does that mean I’m considered a tax resident in Malaysia instead of Singapore?

As for tax reliefs, whether I fill them in or not doesn’t affect the tax amount since I’ll be paying RM 0 for 2024 anyway. But I’m still considering whether to submit the pelepasan (relief claims) or not.
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theoretically, you could be qualified as tax residents of both Malaysia and Singapore because the 183 days can be overlapped if travel in and out within the same day
basic rule, as long as you are in Malaysia for at least 182 days - PR11/2017

you could but the question is why
once a relief is claimed, the documents shall be kept for at least 7 years
otherwise, failure to furnish may result in incorrect return which may subject to penalty despite without chargeable income

QUOTE(miraclecrush @ Apr 20 2025, 07:52 PM)
hello does anyone know if i can claim a phone bill that's not under my name under tax relief if:
- i pay for it and i have proof of payment
- my own number is on it
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interestingly the public ruling PR4/2024 mentioned about the bill registered under the name of
unless u r going to challenge the public ruling for a maximum of RM 750 tax savings
could always seek clarification via maklumbalas enquiry --> individual taxation

QUOTE(mini orchard @ Apr 21 2025, 06:58 PM)
Those who donated normally do it for a cause that they believed it will help and have the means to do it.
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what if I only donate to those who could provide tax-exempt receipt lol.gif
the government share a percentage of that donation, depending on your tax rate
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post Apr 22 2025, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(ccschua @ Apr 21 2025, 01:48 PM)
dont you think malaysia donation tax deductible is never attractive and nearly nobody does that.

in Singapore, cash donation is given at 2.5 times deductables
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donating 2-5k per year, not all tax deductable... asian tsunami 50k...

do as you can... 2.5x like sg would be nice...

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post Apr 22 2025, 01:32 PM

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Just noticed that Lifestyle deduction for 2024 includes:

- Skill improvement / personal development course fee

Does this include both online courses from udemy, coursera, etc and in person courses from non gov approved providers?
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QUOTE(poooky @ Apr 22 2025, 01:32 PM)
Just noticed that Lifestyle deduction for 2024 includes:

- Skill improvement / personal development course fee

Does this include both online courses from udemy, coursera, etc and in person courses from non gov approved providers?
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looks like everything except skills relating to your jobs lol.gif
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post Apr 22 2025, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(1mr3tard3d @ Apr 22 2025, 07:29 PM)
looks like everything except skills relating to your jobs :lol2:
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Thanks this is good news. I suppose not relating to job can be open to interpretation and depend on we can spin it.

Only thing is that they come out with the relief way too late in the year making it difficult to plan ahead.
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post Apr 23 2025, 04:35 PM

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this year e-filling for BE form is due on 30 April? no extension?
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post Apr 24 2025, 11:05 PM

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I didn't fulfill 2 years of retention period on my previous company and I had repay back 2 months of retention bonus received.
Since this repayment is not through salary deduction(not deducted in EA form), is there anything that I can do to avoid the taxation of it?
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QUOTE(fbat @ Apr 24 2025, 11:05 PM)
I didn't fulfill 2 years of retention period on my previous company and I had repay back 2 months of retention bonus received.
Since this repayment is not through salary deduction(not deducted in EA form), is there anything that I can do to avoid the taxation of it?
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Not sure if this can works.

Get the receipt of paying that from your ex employer and then deduct it from EA form manually when doing the ITR declaration?
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QUOTE(mamamia @ Apr 23 2025, 04:35 PM)
this year e-filling for BE form is due on 30 April? no extension?
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the 15-day grace period for e-filing has been granted since I first declared income
filing programme 2025
do not complain if late submission due to mytax or fpx down, we have been given 76 days to submit

QUOTE(fbat @ Apr 24 2025, 11:05 PM)
I didn't fulfill 2 years of retention period on my previous company and I had repay back 2 months of retention bonus received.
Since this repayment is not through salary deduction(not deducted in EA form), is there anything that I can do to avoid the taxation of it?
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i doubt that u could deduct straight away
instead submit an application for relief/amendment of prior YA submission
should seek advice from LHDN directly
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post Apr 28 2025, 08:06 PM

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if anybody knows if LHDN counter now accepts e-wallet payment ?

if yes is there any surcharge imposed ?
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post Apr 28 2025, 08:58 PM

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Guys,

wish to ask,,
Life insurance and EPF

Civil servants’ pension schemes, non-civil servants pension schemes and self-employed category:

Mandatory contributions to approved schemes or voluntary contributions to EPF (excluding private retirement schemes) or contributions under any written law (Restricted to RM4,000)
Life insurance premium payments or family takaful contributions or additional voluntary contributions to EPF (Restricted to RM3,000)
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Question : any additional voluntary contribution, can claim upto RM3k limit under item no (ii). thanks
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post Apr 28 2025, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(Micky78 @ Apr 28 2025, 08:58 PM)
Guys,

wish to ask,,
Life insurance and EPF

Civil servants’ pension schemes, non-civil servants pension schemes and self-employed category:

Mandatory contributions to approved schemes or voluntary contributions to EPF (excluding private retirement schemes) or contributions under any written law (Restricted to RM4,000)
Life insurance premium payments or family takaful contributions or additional voluntary contributions to EPF (Restricted to RM3,000)
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Question  : any additional voluntary contribution, can claim upto RM3k limit under item no (ii). thanks
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While waiting for responses, perhaps you can try this for some info while you wait for responses.

Try page 25 & 26 for some examples

BE 2024 Explanatory Notes
https://www.hasil.gov.my/media/vvglk3ad/exp...es_be2024_2.pdf



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