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jhleo1
post Feb 18 2025, 05:51 PM

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Dunno about Hisense. For Midea all easy pro got active clean/ self clean. Kind of manual press but good enough.

QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 17 2025, 08:18 PM)
Can I check if the Hisense TUGS model has self cleaning? It is NOT mentioned in the website but only in this article:
https://www.businesstoday.com.my/2021/02/01...r-conditioners/
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post Feb 18 2025, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 18 2025, 04:12 PM)
I saw the TCL FreshIN model as well, but the price jump from the Hisense TUGS is just too high for me. I got my 1HP TUGS for RM958, whereas the cheapest TCL FreshIN is RM1.8K—enough to buy two 1HP TUGS! laugh.gif
No, it's not a high-pitched sound. It's just that you’re definitely aware of it when the room is quiet.
The outdoor unit is installed just outside each room, and I can hear it when the room is quiet, such as when I'm about to sleep. However, it's not noticeable while watching TV.

It's not loud enough to be annoying, but you can definitely hear it. In contrast, I haven't experienced this issue with GREE, York, or Toshiba air conditioners.

Interestingly, my 15-year-old Toshiba unit is still running smoothly with no noise at all.
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i used to have a hitachi aircon, about 6-10 years ago. it emitted a high pitch sound also, but it sounded indoors, fan motor maybe. but i cant say for sure if this is a fact. because of this very sound, i changed the aircon, to where it is at now -- the samsung. sadly, its just swapping problems.

but back to hitachi, its the only aircon thats quiet and cold across the years, with the only and only and only problem being the high pitch. the mitsubishi that preceded that was quiet also but after some time it too starting making 'ticktickticktick' sound.. (i know where / what the issue is)

from my reading, hitachi and hisense share the same manufacturer. its likely related. anyway, if i sleep and hear high pitch i get upset. so maybe i dodged a bullet by not buying hisense. if it ever bothers you too much, maybe u can talk to hisense and see if they are aware of it and have a solution..... coz if its fixed i'd be so keen.

i'd like to ask you if your TUGS have 'silent' function. and if the silent function makes indoor unit completely inaudible. inaudible means u cant even tell its on/blowing 2 meters direct distance from it.

very quiet for me is hitachi (ignoring high pitch /mitsubishi 16-19db models) on silent mode.

but ya, worst of them all is samsung, then LG i had in the old past

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QUOTE(jhleo1 @ Feb 18 2025, 05:51 PM)
Dunno about Hisense. For Midea all easy pro got active clean/ self clean. Kind of manual press but good enough.
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i see this 'active clean/self clean' ... i feel its all marketing stuff, has it been proven /shown to be effective? and if effective, how much less effective than thorough cleaning.
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post Feb 18 2025, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(biatche @ Feb 18 2025, 09:44 PM)
maybe u can talk to hisense and see if they are aware of it and have a solution..... coz if its fixed i'd be so keen.
This is a known issue with the TUGS series. Hisense is aware of it but considers it "normal."

I’m too lazy to argue with them. As I mentioned, I can only hear the noise when I’m sleeping. But since it’s outside, it doesn’t really bother me—I’m just aware of it, that’s all.
QUOTE(biatche @ Feb 18 2025, 09:44 PM)
i'd like to ask you if your TUGS have 'silent' function. and if the silent function makes indoor unit completely inaudible. inaudible means u cant even tell its on/blowing 2 meters direct distance from it.
Yes, it does, but Hisense refers to it as "Quiet" rather than "Silent."

In this mode, it's incredibly quiet—I can't hear anything at all.

It's definitely the quietest among all the brands I've used before, though that might be because none of the others had a silent mode.

That said, if you ask me, I'd still choose GREE. The only reason I didn't go with them is that none of their inverter units use R32. But if my Hisense ever breaks and GREE Malaysia brings in a 5-star R32 inverter unit, I'd definitely switch back.
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Feb 18 2025, 01:52 PM)
i was unfortunate to have a lemon/defective Midea inverter 1.5hp MSXE-13CRDN8.
i installed 2units of the same model together. 1 was functioning well till today

it was running fine for 2yr+ , bought in late 2021 ..after bought 2.5yrs, in wasnt cold
Asked 1st service guy to come..and he just topped up the gas (dumb) ,
and after 1month it was hot again,. so there was some kind of minor/small leaked somehow
asked another diff guy to check thoroughly, disassembled everything, did soaked test etc..refilled and was cold only for 1month

after that spending of aorund rm550, i gave up and changed to hisense inverter
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Sorry to hear...yeah its a hassle if the technician cant find the fault!

I went with Midea just bcoz of its easy for DIY cleaning, super easy! Really good design for the all easy pro model.
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post Feb 18 2025, 11:53 PM

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No idea I seldom use this feature. I still manually clean filter myself. I like this model easy to clean up internal part.

QUOTE(biatche @ Feb 18 2025, 09:46 PM)
i see this 'active clean/self clean' ... i feel its all marketing stuff, has it  been proven /shown to be effective? and if effective, how much less effective than thorough cleaning.
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post Feb 19 2025, 03:14 AM

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Anyone know how to solve Panasonic aircond flap noise? It makes ticking sound when it’s swinging up and down. The noise gone when I fix the flap in certain height.

Any situ able to help? Thanks in advanced
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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Feb 19 2025, 03:14 AM)
Anyone know how to solve Panasonic aircond flap noise? It makes ticking sound when it’s swinging up and down. The noise gone when I fix the flap in certain height.

Any situ able to help? Thanks in advanced
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My experience with noise issue is, if you can't fix it with money, you can always fix it with more money.

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QUOTE(PowerGadget @ Feb 19 2025, 03:14 AM)
Anyone know how to solve Panasonic aircond flap noise? It makes ticking sound when it’s swinging up and down. The noise gone when I fix the flap in certain height.

Any situ able to help? Thanks in advanced
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if u can diy, maybe the flap pivots need some lubrication.. or izzit from 1st day it makes sound?
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QUOTE(swing123 @ Feb 18 2025, 05:00 PM)
Not answering if Daikin is the choice selection butbi was advised by the aircond shop no point to get inverter aircond for living room in a double storey house as it is open space and wont reap the full benefits of inverter aircond.

There were other comments from forum members here on thos topic, you can look back earlier posts a couple of pages back .
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Oh okay, think i have came across such information as well. Because the inverter aircond needs the space to be at a set temperature, but living room is wide open space and the temperature won't be constant right?
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post Feb 19 2025, 10:37 AM

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I decided to get the TCL Gentle cool 1.5hp inverter over the Hisense Tugs (due to noisy compressor as mentioned by others here) and over the Midea All easy Pro

+ It is the cheapest airconditioner featuring "windless" blade design
+ Compatible with Google home
+ Self clean, Ionizer
+ easy to maintain/ install design like the Midea All easy Pro
+ 3 years general warranty + 10 years for compressor

- 4 stars energy rating
- Small player in the market


There are some interesting models such as the Hisense VAGSF and TCL FreshIn which has a air tube (?) to pull fresh air from outside the room (?) or window (?). Nice feature but it costs around RM2.3k for 1.5HP inverter

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QUOTE(ItsJustheOne @ Feb 19 2025, 09:59 AM)
Oh okay, think i have came across such information as well. Because the inverter aircond needs the space to be at a set temperature, but living room is wide open space and the temperature won't be constant right?
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That is correct. Think of it this way; minimum speed limit is 160 km/h, but you drive an Axia. You're going to always be pedal-to-the-metal full throttle to keep up to that speed, but a bigger cc car would have reached that speed, and be feathering the throttle to keep to the speed.

Similarly, if the cold air keeps leaking out from the area, or the area is too large, or the temperature is set too low, or you keep putting hot air back into the area, then the a/cond is going to be at full power all the time to reach the set temperature. So no benefit for having the inverter.
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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Feb 19 2025, 10:41 AM)
That is correct. Think of it this way; minimum speed limit is 160 km/h, but you drive an Axia. You're going to always be pedal-to-the-metal full throttle to keep up to that speed, but a bigger cc car would have reached that speed, and be feathering the throttle to keep to the speed.

Similarly, if the cold air keeps leaking out from the area, or the area is too large, or the temperature is set too low, or you keep putting hot air back into the area, then the a/cond is going to be at full power all the time to reach the set temperature. So no benefit for having the inverter.
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Ah I see, good to know. Btw most of these aircons comes with some ionizer or something? I thought I read before that these kind of ionizer things are not good for health, or maybe I could be remembering wrongly
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QUOTE(ItsJustheOne @ Feb 19 2025, 10:26 PM)
Ah I see, good to know. Btw most of these aircons comes with some ionizer or something? I thought I read before that these kind of ionizer things are not good for health, or maybe I could be remembering wrongly
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I think it is own preference. Most household electrical or electronic products nowadays are trending toward 2in1,3in1, 4in1 and so on which is inevitable for space savings as property size is shrinking especially in the dominant high rise residential properties market.

I am a firm believer of more functions in electronic products with mechanical parts, higher chance of malfunctioning with higher repair/replacement costs. If space is not of a concern like a landed property, just get plain vanilla electrical and electronic items for their own function even though it means take up more space. Nothing wrong to have aircond in a room with a separate air purifier, or a washing machine and a separate dryer.
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QUOTE(ItsJustheOne @ Feb 19 2025, 10:26 PM)
Ah I see, good to know. Btw most of these aircons comes with some ionizer or something? I thought I read before that these kind of ionizer things are not good for health, or maybe I could be remembering wrongly
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When I was shopping for aircond, was looking at Daikin 5 star inverter, narrow down to FTKP and FTKU with minimal price difference between the two. FTKP came with plasma ionizer but the catch is, it has higher power consumption than FTKU so I went for FTKU and get myself a separate air purifier since Daikin is not renowned for that.
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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 19 2025, 10:37 AM)
I decided to get the TCL Gentle cool 1.5hp inverter over the Hisense Tugs (due to noisy compressor as mentioned by others here) and over the Midea All easy Pro

+ It is the cheapest airconditioner featuring "windless" blade design
+ Compatible with Google home
+ Self clean, Ionizer
+ easy to maintain/ install design like the Midea All easy Pro
+ 3 years general warranty + 10 years for compressor

- 4 stars energy rating
- Small player in the market
There are some interesting models such as the Hisense VAGSF and TCL FreshIn which has a air tube (?) to pull fresh air from outside the room (?) or window (?). Nice feature but it costs around RM2.3k for 1.5HP inverter
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omg, if i had seen this model i would have been interested.

has 'mute' fan speed which is exactly what i want.
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post Feb 20 2025, 11:18 AM

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Hi all, how much HP aircond should i install for this area? volume of the space will be 3m(l) x 3m(w) x3m(h) + 3m(l) x 3m(w) x 6m(h), with 6m full height window towards the end.
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QUOTE(swing123 @ Feb 19 2025, 11:20 PM)
When I was shopping for aircond, was looking at Daikin 5 star inverter, narrow down to FTKP and FTKU with minimal price difference between the two. FTKP came with plasma ionizer but the catch is, it has higher power consumption than FTKU so I went for FTKU and get myself a separate air purifier since Daikin is not renowned for that.
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Yeah true this sounds not bad. Btw the FTKU and FTKP is just the model name difference, is it? Or they are acronyms for something?
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QUOTE(Agent 45 @ Feb 20 2025, 11:18 AM)
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Hi all, how much HP aircond should i install for this area? volume of the space will be 3m(l) x 3m(w) x3m(h) + 3m(l) x 3m(w) x 6m(h), with 6m full height window towards the end.
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2 units of 1hp each, one like the one shown in the picture, the other one at the sofa
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Feb 18 2025, 09:56 PM)
This is a known issue with the TUGS series. Hisense is aware of it but considers it "normal."

I’m too lazy to argue with them. As I mentioned, I can only hear the noise when I’m sleeping. But since it’s outside, it doesn’t really bother me—I’m just aware of it, that’s all.
Yes, it does, but Hisense refers to it as "Quiet" rather than "Silent."

In this mode, it's incredibly quiet—I can't hear anything at all.

It's definitely the quietest among all the brands I've used before, though that might be because none of the others had a silent mode.

That said, if you ask me, I'd still choose GREE. The only reason I didn't go with them is that none of their inverter units use R32. But if my Hisense ever breaks and GREE Malaysia brings in a 5-star R32 inverter unit, I'd definitely switch back.
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GREE is king of AC in China. Own manufacturing and top sales. However in Malaysia I won’t touch it, because it seems they never push much sales, market too small?

Because problem down the line will be spare parts concern.

Haier, Midea is top tier like GREE with good presence in Malaysia.

QUOTE(-kytz- @ Feb 19 2025, 10:37 AM)
I decided to get the TCL Gentle cool 1.5hp inverter over the Hisense Tugs (due to noisy compressor as mentioned by others here) and over the Midea All easy Pro

+ It is the cheapest airconditioner featuring "windless" blade design
+ Compatible with Google home
+ Self clean, Ionizer
+ easy to maintain/ install design like the Midea All easy Pro
+ 3 years general warranty + 10 years for compressor

- 4 stars energy rating
- Small player in the market
There are some interesting models such as the Hisense VAGSF and TCL FreshIn which has a air tube (?) to pull fresh air from outside the room (?) or window (?). Nice feature but it costs around RM2.3k for 1.5HP inverter
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I just got 3 units of TCL elite 1hp. Hoping it’ll work well.

QUOTE(Agent 45 @ Feb 20 2025, 11:18 AM)
Hi all, how much HP aircond should i install for this area? volume of the space will be 3m(l) x 3m(w) x3m(h) + 3m(l) x 3m(w) x 6m(h), with 6m full height window towards the end.
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2hp

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