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amirudin920927
post Jun 30 2016, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jun 29 2016, 10:54 PM)
Cant wait tomorrow, ordered from Lazada already. Now hopes shopback ( 4% ) works, registered my 3rd acc ( both Lazada & shopback )  tongue.gif

Gemfive ( with coupon ) and ipmart are cheaper, but both dont have the free headset.
Actually I like Z35's base/feet design. Too bad the 1080P's dpi are even lower than my current 23" which I almost cant stand the pixel dpi anymore ( spoiled by those high dpi smartphone display )

Cant wait for another half year, and I'm expecting much higher price for X34P for it's improved display panel and minor improvement on design. TBH those new addition are nice but not essential for me.
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I think X34P price same like X34 launched RM4599.. That's why X34 currently drop price + free gift.. LOL! If u don't mind about the features like more curved, swivel stand where u can change to aftermarket stand, joystick menu coz currently the button confused me so many times, n confirmed 100hz refrash rate,,, then u can buy X34 + free headphone.. thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jun 29 2016, 11:07 PM)
Certainly hope so, as far as I read in reddit/forum, almost all X34 owner are praising it.
One downside for getting X34 is that it will be brutal on my 970  sweat.gif
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Yep bro, no regret no returning back not even 4K! hahaha cool2.gif

QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 29 2016, 11:16 PM)
Regarding the X34...
Standard Refresh Rate  60 Hz
Tearing Prevention Technology  G-sync

How G-sync works with 60Hz ?
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Standard refresh rate 60hz but all user so far got no problem OC it to 100hz.. Only some of the 1st batch that got unstable 100hz, but they can return to Acer.. Mine 2nd batch, working like charm thumbup.gif
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post Jun 30 2016, 07:48 AM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jun 29 2016, 11:07 PM)
Certainly hope so, as far as I read in reddit/forum, almost all X34 owner are praising it.
One downside for getting X34 is that it will be brutal on my 970  sweat.gif
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You need a minimum 980ti or 1070/80 to get the best out from x34.

As for 1440p 27in 16:9 or 34in 21:9 are the best to view like 2-3 feets away between the eye and the screen.

Same like 24in 16:9 1080p 2-3 feets too.

For 2160p better to get 32in 16:9 else it has no difference like 1440p 27in at the same viewing distance of 2-3feets. Our eyes cant diffentiate it, unless you want to sit like 1 feet between your eye and the screen, then yes 4k monitor is good for that at 28in. smile.gif thats why maybe acer 4k predator is much cheaper here. Its is build with wrong size and wrong resolution.

Correct me if im wrong

This post has been edited by Vannus: Jun 30 2016, 07:56 AM
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post Jun 30 2016, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 29 2016, 11:16 PM)
Regarding the X34...
Standard Refresh Rate  60 Hz
Tearing Prevention Technology  G-sync

How G-sync works with 60Hz ?
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Forgot the exact technical terms, but basically G-sync technology will sync ( duh tongue.gif ) your GPU output and monitor's refresh rate. Tearing are caused by out-of-sync ( either GPU send frames too fast or too slow to monitor )

QUOTE(amirudin920927 @ Jun 30 2016, 02:00 AM)
I think X34P price same like X34 launched RM4599.. That's why X34 currently drop price + free gift.. LOL! If u don't mind about the features like more curved, swivel stand where u can change to aftermarket stand, joystick menu coz currently the button confused me so many times, n confirmed 100hz refrash rate,,, then u can buy X34 + free headphone..  thumbup.gif
Yep bro, no regret no returning back not even 4K! hahaha  cool2.gif
Standard refresh rate 60hz but all user so far got no problem OC it to 100hz.. Only some of the 1st batch that got unstable 100hz, but they can return to Acer.. Mine 2nd batch, working like charm  thumbup.gif
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For now I think I could be happy just to elevated over to 75Hz, 100Hz sounds too delicious for me biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Vannus @ Jun 30 2016, 07:48 AM)
You need a minimum 980ti or 1070/80 to get the best out from x34.

As for 1440p 27in 16:9 or 34in 21:9 are the best to view like 2-3 feets away between the eye and the screen.

Same like 24in 16:9 1080p 2-3 feets too.

For 2160p better to get 32in 16:9 else it has no difference like 1440p 27in at the same viewing distance of 2-3feets. Our eyes cant diffentiate it, unless you want to sit like 1 feet between your eye and the screen, then yes 4k monitor is good for that at 28in. smile.gif thats why maybe acer 4k predator is much cheaper here. Its is build with wrong size and wrong resolution.

Correct me if im wrong
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I certainly hopes ultrawide will kick off 16:9 4K in future and become the standard for high end market, currently seems like only popular among enthusiast, even some of #PCMasterRace friend recommend me to 28" ( 16:9 ) 1440P monitor.
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post Jun 30 2016, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jun 30 2016, 08:32 AM)
Forgot the exact technical terms, but basically G-sync technology will sync ( duh  tongue.gif  ) your GPU output and monitor's refresh rate. Tearing are caused by out-of-sync ( either GPU send frames too fast or too slow to monitor )
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I thought G-sync only benefit at >60Hz
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post Jun 30 2016, 10:22 AM

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Any framerate within the G-sync window you get the G-sync benefit, outside of that window your system switches either to V-sync or no V-sync.

So if your G-sync monitor is rated up to 100Hz, get your frame rate from 35-100fps, any framerate higher than 100fps, your system switches to V-sync. V-sync introduced input lag, and halves the visible framerate. No V-sync? Hello tearing!

With all that in mind, you want to run your games with a lower fps than the panel refresh maximum, to stay within the G-sync window for it to take effect. If you have G-sync 60Hz panel, then run it below 60Hz, no point lowering resolution or image quality to get it screaming at 80 90 100 fps because you then lose the benefit of G-Sync. Same goes to whatever refresh rate other G-sync monitor uses: 60/75/100/144/165Hz, etc.
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post Jun 30 2016, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jun 30 2016, 09:36 AM)
I thought G-sync only benefit at >60Hz
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I used to thought G-sync monitor are above 60Hz, but these day's research then only know apparently there's 60Hz 4K g-sync monitor.

QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 30 2016, 10:22 AM)
Any framerate within the G-sync window you get the G-sync benefit, outside of that window your system switches either to V-sync or no V-sync.

So if your G-sync monitor is rated up to 100Hz, get your frame rate from 35-100fps, any framerate higher than 100fps, your system switches to V-sync. V-sync introduced input lag, and halves the visible framerate. No V-sync? Hello tearing!

With all that in mind, you want to run your games with a lower fps than the panel refresh maximum, to stay within the G-sync window for it to take effect. If you have G-sync 60Hz panel, then run it below 60Hz, no point lowering resolution or image quality to get it screaming at 80 90 100 fps because you then lose the benefit of G-Sync. Same goes to whatever refresh rate other G-sync monitor uses: 60/75/100/144/165Hz, etc.
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Are you saying that even with G-sync enabled, if framerate goes beyond G-sync monitor's max frequency, it will drop G-sync ? Then potentially tearing will reoccur eventhough we might not capable of seeing it with our eyes at such high framerate.
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post Jun 30 2016, 10:55 AM

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Enabling GSync make ur fps will be capped at the highest refresh rate of ur monitor. If 100hz, then fps will be 100fps top, it will not go beyond it but if lower then there is no problem, GSync will follow the rate.. GSync used to synchronize monitor with gc, and this is great coz its will wipe out the tearing n stuttering, and its not like VSync that will make ur movement delayed which is annoying.
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post Jun 30 2016, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jun 30 2016, 10:38 AM)
I used to thought G-sync monitor are above 60Hz, but these day's research then only know apparently there's 60Hz 4K g-sync monitor.
Are you saying that even with G-sync enabled, if framerate goes beyond G-sync monitor's max frequency, it will drop G-sync ? Then potentially tearing will reoccur eventhough we might not capable of seeing it with our eyes at such high framerate.
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The monitor caps it, but the effects are not as noticeable, because the refresh rate is so high. Personally, I strive to get as close as possible to the monitor's refresh rate, but even if I'm not willing to drop settings to get 100fps on my monitor, G-Sync still works even at, let's say, 35-40fps (because you enabled all Max settings, and your framerate tanks). The misconception is that, "of that fps is so low, sure will not be smooth", when I posted fps data, but people who have never tried G-sync has that misconception anyway because in reality, on their own non-G-Sync monitors, that is what happens, stuttery laggy mess at 35-40fps. Not with G-sync.
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post Jul 1 2016, 11:02 AM

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Found these monitor arms on Amazon that can ship to Malaysia, in case anyone is looking:

Locktek
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FYI, an X34 without stand, weighs in at 9.9kg.
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post Jul 1 2016, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(richard912 @ Jul 1 2016, 11:02 AM)
Found these monitor arms on Amazon that can ship to Malaysia, in case anyone is looking:

Locktek
AmazonBasics

FYI, an X34 without stand, weighs in at 9.9kg.
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Loctek looks great! U want to buy it? hmm.gif brows.gif
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post Jul 1 2016, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(amirudin920927 @ Jul 1 2016, 12:51 PM)
Loctek looks great! U want to buy it?  hmm.gif  brows.gif
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When I get the X34P and if my current 70cm depth table becomes too "cluttered" from it
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post Jul 1 2016, 01:41 PM

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QUOTE(richard912 @ Jul 1 2016, 01:18 PM)
When I get the X34P and if my current 70cm depth table becomes too "cluttered" from it
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Oh, I tot u using X34 already.. hehehe. If u want to buy, I want to 'kirim'.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(amirudin920927 @ Jul 1 2016, 01:41 PM)
Oh, I tot u using X34 already.. hehehe. If u want to buy, I want to 'kirim'..  brows.gif
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Haiz.....belum lagi. Everyday, need to resist the urge to get it. Hope the X34P will arrive soon. Or at least, the X34A
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post Jul 1 2016, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(richard912 @ Jul 1 2016, 01:44 PM)
Haiz.....belum lagi. Everyday, need to resist the urge to get it. Hope the X34P will arrive soon. Or at least, the X34A
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Hahahaha.. ok2,, wait for X34P.. This monster is expensive, so better spend it at the right time.. thumbsup.gif
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post Jul 1 2016, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(richard912 @ Jul 1 2016, 11:02 AM)
Found these monitor arms on Amazon that can ship to Malaysia, in case anyone is looking:

Locktek
AmazonBasics

FYI, an X34 without stand, weighs in at 9.9kg.
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There's quite a lot more option that's cheaper and can send to Malaysia, but then Amazon's shipping cost aint cheap. I'll wait for my X34 arrival then see how.
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post Jul 1 2016, 11:24 PM

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during in-game cut-scene/cinematic, is it presented in 16:9 with pillar box or stretched to 21:9?
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post Jul 1 2016, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jul 1 2016, 11:24 PM)
during in-game cut-scene/cinematic, is it presented in 16:9 with pillar box or stretched to 21:9?
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Yes. But snaps back to 21:9 in-game.
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post Jul 2 2016, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(Someonesim @ Jun 29 2016, 10:02 PM)
Ah screw it, after calculate total cost for import Samsung/LG monitor it cost about RM3.5K ( ~130USD shipping ), add RM300 can get g-sync Z35, or add RM700+ get g-sync X34, imma just order Predator X34 tomorrow
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May I know where you get those prices?
I sell those monitors too, so I am curious where do people normally get theirs from..
Wanna see if my price is cheaper or not tongue.gif
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post Jul 2 2016, 05:37 AM

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Guys is there recommendation for 29"? 34" is price of my whole rig..


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post Jul 2 2016, 10:23 AM

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QUOTE(koonghx @ Jul 2 2016, 12:18 AM)
May I know where you get those prices?
I sell those monitors too, so I am curious where do people normally get theirs from..
Wanna see if my price is cheaper or not  tongue.gif
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Amazon and B&H. TBH many of those monitor with good price tag wasnt sold here.
I gave up after realize delivery cost too much ( monitor too heavy ).

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