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 Working in Singapore V17, All about living in the Lil' Red Dot

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post Dec 22 2014, 09:50 PM

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This future co. like very kiamsap, first time I see applicants paying and making their own application for EP doh.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Dec 22 2014, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(rawrkun @ Dec 22 2014, 09:50 PM)
This future co. like very kiamsap, first time I see applicants paying and making their own application for EP  doh.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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hmm... if i remember correctly the expenses and also the medical report have to be borne by employer.
also watch out if anyone applied PR successfully, DO NOT allow employer to deduct employer contribution from your salary.
my ex company tried to do that, and i have to get them on conference call and get a direct answer from MOM that its against the employment law before they agree to pay their share.
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post Dec 22 2014, 11:31 PM

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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Dec 22 2014, 10:42 AM)
Thanks for your recommendation studyboy. I will take a look at Singtel and Starhub packages to see which one more suitable.

I am actually hoping for about $700-800 for the rental in a good area. Does not have to be too close to Tanjong Pagar, as long it is close to the east west MRT should be alright. Do you have any recommendations?

I checked my EP status online still no record too although I gave all information to HR last week already.
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You could try looking around Jurong East MRT for a start. Rents are quite affordable though the commute to Tanjong Pagar would be rather long. A friend is paying about $550 for a non-air conditioned room somewhere near Jurong East!

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post Dec 22 2014, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(babykon101 @ Dec 22 2014, 02:24 PM)
Hey all. I am thinking on an offer to work in SG from Feb next year onward.
Company is MNC and I think career progression should be good, will never know for real until I start there.

For those working in SG, do you think 4 - 4.5k enough for a 24 yrs old, single and not the type to really splurge, as I want to save some money to bring back Malaysia.

Plus, will be working in Shenton Way, where to stay ya?

Thank you!
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Of course it is! You'd be able to save up quite a bit with that salary of yours.
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post Dec 22 2014, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(rawrkun @ Dec 22 2014, 09:50 PM)
This future co. like very kiamsap, first time I see applicants paying and making their own application for EP  doh.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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I paid for mine too but the application was done by the company.
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post Dec 22 2014, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Dec 22 2014, 09:07 PM)
Just got a job offer for BI Developer role with an European Bank.

Around $5k @ 25 years old is not too bad I guess. tongue.gif

The office is at Maple Business City near Labrador Park, any 1st hand recommendation on where to stay? smile.gif
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If you want close to work, telok blangah or alexandra.
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post Dec 23 2014, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(ThanatosSwiftfire @ Dec 22 2014, 11:41 PM)
If you want close to work, telok blangah or alexandra.
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Noted.
Some friend suggested Redhill too. smile.gif

Will browse through. thumbup.gif

Anyway do LYN have a SG club or smthn? laugh.gif
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post Dec 23 2014, 04:00 PM

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hi guys, newbie here...
spamming those HR in SG now with my CV...kekeke...
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post Dec 23 2014, 05:38 PM

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Guys, what is PUB ? Is it utilities or something ? I am still finding rooms to rent .
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post Dec 23 2014, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(avengers88 @ Dec 23 2014, 05:38 PM)
Guys, what is PUB ? Is it utilities or something ? I am still finding rooms to rent .
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electricity and water in general...may include gas if pipe gas
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post Dec 23 2014, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Dec 22 2014, 10:22 PM)
hmm... if i remember correctly the expenses and also the medical report have to be borne by employer.
also watch out if anyone applied PR successfully, DO NOT allow employer to deduct employer contribution from your salary.
my ex company tried to do that, and i have to get them on conference call and get a direct answer from MOM that its against the employment law before they agree to pay their share.
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Employer not paying worker's CPF is a serious violation. By deducting the employer part of contribution thru the employees pay constituted as cheating. Any particular reason why they are doing it, increased overhead cost perhaps?
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post Dec 23 2014, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(V-Zero @ Dec 23 2014, 09:22 AM)

Anyway do LYN have a SG club or smthn?  laugh.gif
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pm deodorant with your nick, gender, name and mobile number. He's recruiting and assembling an army of trollers.
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post Dec 23 2014, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Dec 23 2014, 06:40 PM)
Employer not paying worker's CPF is a serious violation. By deducting the employer part of contribution thru the employees  pay constituted as cheating. Any particular reason why they are doing it, increased overhead cost perhaps?
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Their logic : company didn't ask you to apply pr, it's your own initiative, so you should bear the cost. LOL.

They probably know it's against the law, and any "agreement"they made staff to sign, agreeing for salary to be deducted means nothing. Problem is they've done this to all their staff who applied pr (majority from India)and I'm the first to be exempted, and somehow the earlier victims knew about it cause they came asking me which part of cpf law states that employer must pay their share. I left the company not long after that, so I don't know if the earlier victims got their share of salary back from the company or not.
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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Dec 23 2014, 08:22 PM)
Their logic : company didn't ask you to apply pr, it's your own initiative, so you should bear the cost. LOL.

They probably know it's against the law, and any "agreement"they made staff to sign, agreeing for salary to be deducted means nothing. Problem is they've done this to all their staff who applied pr (majority from India)and I'm the first to be exempted, and somehow the earlier victims knew about it cause they came asking me which part of cpf law states that employer must pay their share. I left the company not long after that, so I don't know if the earlier victims got their share of salary back from the company or not.
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Hi, I will be starting to work in January.
Refer to my offer letter, there is a sentence stated that

"During the continuance of your employment, you shall be paid a monthly salary of xxxx, subject to the deduction of such amount in respect of your contribution to the CPF (if applicable) or any amount that the company may be entitled to deduct by law."

Is this meant that if I got PR, the employee and employer contribution to the CPF, both will deduct from my salary?

Thank you.
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post Dec 23 2014, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Dec 23 2014, 08:22 PM)
Their logic : company didn't ask you to apply pr, it's your own initiative, so you should bear the cost. LOL.

They probably know it's against the law, and any "agreement"they made staff to sign, agreeing for salary to be deducted means nothing. Problem is they've done this to all their staff who applied pr (majority from India)and I'm the first to be exempted, and somehow the earlier victims knew about it cause they came asking me which part of cpf law states that employer must pay their share. I left the company not long after that, so I don't know if the earlier victims got their share of salary back from the company or not.
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If the premise is that since you have become PR, the company reduces your basic and pays CPF according to the law - the logic is sound. Assuming of course that you agree to the salary reduction. If you don't, the course of action is to renegotiate your employment contract as your residence and employment status have changed. Strictly speaking the basis of your existing employment contract has changed because the laws applicable to you and your employer are no longer the same.

This post has been edited by seantang: Dec 23 2014, 08:55 PM
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post Dec 23 2014, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(tik tok tik tok @ Dec 23 2014, 08:35 PM)
Hi, I will be starting to work in January.
Refer to my offer letter, there is a sentence stated that

"During the continuance of your employment, you shall be paid a monthly salary of xxxx, subject to the deduction of such amount in respect of your contribution to the CPF (if applicable) or any amount that the company may be entitled to deduct by law."

Is this meant that if I got PR, the employee and employer contribution to the CPF, both will deduct from my salary?

Thank you.
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you are pretty well cover i would say. no issue.
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post Dec 23 2014, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Dec 23 2014, 08:36 PM)
If the premise is that since you have become PR, the company reduces your basic and pays CPF according to the law - the logic is sound. Assuming of course that you agree to the salary reduction. If you don't, the course of action is to renegotiate your employment contract as your residence and employment status have changed. Strictly speaking the basis of your existing employment contract has changed because the laws applicable to you and your employer are no longer the same.
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but according to the CPF Act, the employer is not allowed to deduct the employer's contribution from the employee's basic salary, there's nothing to negotiate about as any reduction is against the law.

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(5)  Notwithstanding any contract to the contrary, an employer shall not be entitled to recover in any way from an employee in respect of contributions payable under this Act any sum in excess of that permitted to be recovered under subsection (2) together with any sum contributed voluntarily by the employee under subsection (4) and any employer who recovers or attempts to recover any greater sum shall be guilty of an offence.


http://statutes.agc.gov.sg/aol/search/disp...3A0;rec=0#P1II-.
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post Dec 23 2014, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(kevin613 @ Dec 23 2014, 08:22 PM)
Their logic : company didn't ask you to apply pr, it's your own initiative, so you should bear the cost. LOL.

They probably know it's against the law, and any "agreement"they made staff to sign, agreeing for salary to be deducted means nothing. Problem is they've done this to all their staff who applied pr (majority from India)and I'm the first to be exempted, and somehow the earlier victims knew about it cause they came asking me which part of cpf law states that employer must pay their share. I left the company not long after that, so I don't know if the earlier victims got their share of salary back from the company or not.
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I would just decrease your salary, based on your "non-performance" noted recently, and continue to pay you "new basic salary + cpf contribution" which is equal to your old basic salary without cpf contribution. Perfectly ok. Lu tak suka, lu keluar, the boss said. MOM can't tell me how to evaluate my own employee based on my company policy.

Or just take it as your old salary already include the cpf topup for non-residents, for a happier life, which is why they deduct it away and put it to your real cpf. Maybe the way they write their original contract is not so clear.
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post Dec 23 2014, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Fiona Chin @ Dec 23 2014, 10:58 PM)
I would just decrease your salary, based on your "non-performance" noted recently, and continue to pay you "new basic salary + cpf contribution" which is equal to your old basic salary without cpf contribution. Perfectly ok. Lu tak suka, lu keluar, the boss said. MOM can't tell me how to evaluate my own employee based on my company policy.

Or just take it as your old salary already include the cpf topup for non-residents, for a happier life, which is why they deduct it away and put it to your real cpf. Maybe the way they write their original contract is not so clear.
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Could have just lodge a complaint to mom and let them investigate. That non-performance excuse is commonly used against pregnant ladies, and is no longer valid.
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post Dec 24 2014, 12:04 AM

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just paid deposit for my room ,will be moving over to there on 3rd jan

not the cheapest around but ,walkable in 7min to reach bedok mrt, quite good for me imo.

Which fiber optic broadband to get ?

saw M1 at 39dollar , or Mrepublic at 39dollar, singtel at 49dollar.

which one to go for? based on you guys real usage experience




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