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post Jun 27 2014, 02:32 PM, updated 12y ago

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post Jun 27 2014, 02:34 PM

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any chance sanchez coming?
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post Jun 27 2014, 02:35 PM

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Man Utd just signed 2 players in 24 hours. So gooding!
Sanchez and Shaqiri deal apa jadi???
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post Jun 27 2014, 02:36 PM

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lipoting in.

All of sudden scums trollers started their season of infestation to over club tered and tell us how to handle our players and club? A mid table team so bored without Europa games.

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Gutted to see Suarez's unforgivable actions hurting Liverpool. I don't disagree with this punishment, he brought it upon himself. I hope he wallow in guilt during his suspension. Don't understand why he would repeat this again and again. Thought he had changed for the better last season, high football IQ but still low EQ.
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post Jun 27 2014, 02:46 PM

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post Jun 27 2014, 02:49 PM

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you mau official or unofficial?
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post Jun 27 2014, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jun 27 2014, 02:36 PM)
lipoting in.

All of sudden scums trollers started their season of infestation to over club tered and tell us how to handle our players and club? A mid table team so bored without Europa games.
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As long as they are not here to troll is fine by me...

so what is the official and non-official signing you are talking about? List it I dare you whistling.gif
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QUOTE(melt @ Jun 27 2014, 02:59 PM)
As long as they are not here to troll is fine by me...

so what is the official and non-official signing you are talking about? List it I dare you  whistling.gif
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unofficially
basically all the players doing well in WC are misterious linked to us all of sudden. Names that i never heard before. like Origi, Ochoa, Rojo, Shancez, Aluire(sp), and etc. Strong rumors that Shacez and Shaqiri are knocking on our front door.

Player might gone is Suso( already looking for suitor), Aspas dunno what to do with him, Renia(burn his own bridge), Widsom. Ilori also will get loaned out to gain expereince.
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post Jun 27 2014, 03:10 PM

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look like shaqiri and sanchez coming in.. i wonder how are we playing
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Suarez has announced he is stepping down

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QUOTE(hifzil @ Jun 27 2014, 04:39 PM)
Suarez has announced he is stepping down

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Misleading to the max.... I stopped right after reading Honduras coach.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jun 27 2014, 03:05 PM)
unofficially
basically all the players doing well in WC are misterious linked to us all of sudden. Names that i never heard before. like Origi, Ochoa, Rojo, Shancez, Aluire(sp), and etc. Strong rumors that Shacez and Shaqiri are knocking on our front door.

Player might gone is Suso( already looking for suitor), Aspas dunno what to do with him, Renia(burn his own bridge), Widsom. Ilori also will get loaned out to gain expereince.
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Speaking of Reina, funny how things turned out for him. Was rated 20m just few seasons back when we rejected Arsenal's offer. Now, even Barca doesn't want him. Apparently, they signed a 2nd goalie to "share duty" with Marc ter gen but still, they dont want to take Reina. Would rather take other option. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 27 2014, 05:29 PM)
Speaking of Reina, funny how things turned out for him. Was rated 20m just few seasons back when we rejected Arsenal's offer. Now, even Barca doesn't want him. Apparently, they signed a 2nd goalie to "share duty" with Marc ter gen but still, they dont want to take Reina. Would rather take other option.  sweat.gif
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I feel like Napoli is trying to low balling here.
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So you guys don't wanna keep your Reina? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jun 27 2014, 05:33 PM)
So you guys don't wanna keep your Reina?  hmm.gif
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you willing to pay 100k per week for backup keeper who badmouth you and burnt bridge everywhere?
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jun 27 2014, 05:34 PM)
you willing to pay 100k per week for backup keeper who badmouth you and burnt bridge everywhere?
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What..100k per week his gaji.. Out la.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jun 27 2014, 06:37 PM)
What..100k per week his gaji.. Out la.. laugh.gif
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Sadly, all he's worth is 5mil now. When a keeper is not wanted, he's worth 5mil at most. 100k is shit. Ship him out quick.
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Jun 27 2014, 04:10 PM)
look like shaqiri and sanchez coming in.. i wonder how are we playing
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I want both of them. I like pedro too. Fast on the wings. Saw how he supported Messi often and he shows great talent for his age. I'd really like to see a 3-1-3-3 formation.

From midfield

--------------------Gerrard-------------------

--Sterling-------Henderson-------Coutinho--

Pedro------------------------------------Shaqiri

---------------Sturridge/Sanchez-----------



Hahaha sincerely pack the midfield and push up field all d time. Shqairi-Coutinho + Sterling-Pedro on the wings. Henderson supporting Gerrard and going up as needed. Most imptly, let the defenders do their job and defend, and stop going up.

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QUOTE(whitesabre @ Jun 27 2014, 05:57 PM)
I want both of them. I like pedro too. Fast on the wings. Saw how he supported Messi often and he shows great talent for his age. I'd really like to see a 3-1-3-3 formation.

From midfield

--------------------Gerrard-------------------

--Sterling-------Henderson-------Coutinho--

Pedro------------------------------------Shaqiri

---------------Sturridge/Sanchez-----------
Hahaha sincerely pack the midfield and push up field all d time. Shqairi-Coutinho + Sterling-Pedro on the wings. Henderson supporting Gerrard and going up as needed.
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Mana defenders?? later masuk 5 goals but boros 15 goals... kelong liao
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jun 27 2014, 06:58 PM)
Mana defenders?? later masuk 5 goals but boros 15 goals... kelong liao
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Paise I lazy quote GK and DF.

Ok ok

-----------------Mignolet----------------

-------Skrtel----Agger----Sakho-------

----------------Gerrard------------------

--Sterling----Henderson----Coutinho--


Pedro----------------------------Shaqiri

-----------Sanchez/Sturridge-----------



Coutinho, Sterling and Henderson support defence and attack as needed. Henderson don't go too high to support defense. Gerrard stay near mid line, defenders sit back and tight for any reverse counters from enemies. Pedro+Sterling and Coutinho+Shaqiri interswap attacking duties.
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it seems like lallana is joining us for 25mil...
BBC reported that lallana is heading to liverpool for a medical checkup

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28061711
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pity southampton, whole team being torn apart.
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jun 27 2014, 09:14 PM)
it seems like lallana is joining us for 25mil...
BBC reported that lallana is heading to liverpool for a medical checkup

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/28061711
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Here we go again. 25 mil for a Brit, who had an uninspired performance at the WC finals.


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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jun 27 2014, 09:47 PM)
Here we go again. 25 mil for a Brit, who had an uninspired performance at the WC finals.
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He is literally non-existence at the WC finals, even R.Barkley out-shine him even though getting lesser game time.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jun 27 2014, 09:47 PM)
Here we go again. 25 mil for a Brit, who had an uninspired performance at the WC finals.
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what can we say, he is only specialized for EPL game tongue.gif biggrin.gif
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Well, to be honest, jury to Lallana's WC performance still out there. We can only judge him IF he has Roonney or Welbeck's minutes. right?

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Looks like the Alexis Sanchez dream ain't happening...
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 27 2014, 10:33 PM)
Looks like the Alexis Sanchez dream ain't happening...
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can get shaqiri consider bonus. Sanchez can wait if we decided to sell HIM to braca


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Lallaboy poised for a medical. Well, judging from England's woeful WC, he's certainly not worth £25m. Hope he'll prove me wrong.

Moreno's deal collapsed. Sanchez....., well Barca might use him as part player exchange for Suarez. If it's up to me, I'll do biz if Barca pays £70m+Sanchez.

Or maybe we can sell Suarez to German club, Borrusia Munchonacentreback. wink.gif
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Luis Suarez's ban is too harsh... I feel sorry for him, says bite victim Giorgio Chiellini

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What a man. I like him already.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 27 2014, 11:08 PM)
Luis Suarez's ban is too harsh... I feel sorry for him, says bite victim Giorgio Chiellini

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What a man. I like him already.
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Well, I think he felt sorry for the harsh punishment....

FIFA erred in my opinion. Judge, Jury and Executioner all rolled into one. Punish Suarez by all means but why must LFC suffer? mad.gif
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Walawei so inflated prices for Shaw & Lallana. As if England had a brilliant WC loll
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Quite happy if the deal goes through to be honest. Though overprice, but I can see him perform better under BR. I remember him playing very well during england's last match
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walawei..... one season performer and we are in??
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Sammy Lee took up No2 at Brighton with Sami
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jun 27 2014, 10:47 PM)
Here we go again. 25 mil for a Brit, who had an uninspired performance at the WC finals.
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Replacement for the old gerrard I guess.

Might as well get the captains of other clubs sweat.gif
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El hadji diouf was good in WC..looks where it turns out
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pity southampton, whole team being torn apart.
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25m for Lallana and 30m for Shaw. If they spend the money wisely they might be even stronger sweat.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 27 2014, 11:48 PM)
Sammy Lee took up No2 at Brighton with Sami
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Quite relax atmostphere in this thread after news bout lallana coming..much difference on another thread where lallana team mate joining them..like they will surely win the league next season..haha
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QUOTE(leftist @ Jun 28 2014, 12:59 AM)
Quite relax atmostphere in this thread after news bout lallana coming..much difference on another thread where lallana team mate joining them..like they will surely win the league next season..haha
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shhhhhhhhhhhhh........... dun provoke them and draw them here to trolls. They still on overly sensitive butthurt period.
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They now have the most expensive teenager. Must be some kind of fetish with young boys. biggrin.gif

Last time was Rooney, now Shaw. Jokes aside, I think they bought well. Shaw can be world class, like Rooney in his prime.
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Origi & Markovic joining soon as well?
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Origi & Markovic joining soon as well?
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QUOTE(w_lun @ Jun 28 2014, 12:40 AM)
25m for Lallana and 30m for Shaw. If they spend the money wisely they might be even stronger  sweat.gif
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They got 5m from Lambert's sale and let's not forget Dejan Lovren submitted transfer request... Seems like a major cleanup in Soto with potential transfer income up to 70m!
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looks like lallana is on his way. glad that it is at 25mil and not more. i think he is worth it. maybe slightly overpriced but hes english and we all know how english players are so overvalued. also because he has a clause where his former club gets 25% of the fee thats y soton playing hardball with their valuation.

i like lallana, hes like hendo where he covers ALOT of ground. certainly good now that gerrard is basically just sitting in front of the back four. he is good as proven last season. but im not sure if he's good enough to bring us to the next level, to the tile for exp. or compete further in the champs league, but hes a good addition imo. i hope to be proven right.

origi looks good too i've watched him from a couple of highlights from lille games and his games for belgium, fast pacey youngster with an eye for the goal. still v young, only 19. lots of potential. worth it to get him and loan him back according to reports. i am surprised we are not looking to add a solid defender after our shortcomings last season. we conceded way too many goals.

on a plus side, im surprised that sakho is first choice for france. but i am not gonna complain as he is getting valuable game time at the highest international level. considering he was our "marquee" signing last season, i hope he will come good in years to come as he has yet to convinced me.

i think this coming season will be even more open, as i expect manutd to be challenging with van gaal and no europe like us last season. so expect a crazy season again, i just pray that if we dont go one better, we dont fall out of top4. champs league money and glamour too crucial for every "big" club.

on the suarez ban, i think glen hoddle's opinion on itv pretty much was the best, someone needs to tell suarez that this is his last chance, else he should be forever banned from football, nobody likes to see that happening on the pitch or rather that SHOULD NEVER occur... to me it is slightly worse than elbowing and kungfu-kicking someone else but still REALLY BAD. and latest reports saying we might just take the chance to cash in on him with barca the fav to land him. if the money is about how much real paid ronaldo n bale, i think it is fair valuation. if he goes, i blv in br to use the money wisely and nt end up like spurs.

p.s. i think suarez and this biting fetish prolly occured when he was young and playing on the streets..he really plays like a warrior utilising ALL PARTS of his body to gain an advantage on the field! well played suarez. i think its time u get professional help(dr steve peters should recommend someone), and prolly have yr wife do some s&m stuffs to "cure" you thumbup.gif
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Won't be surprised to see news of Suarez's sale popping up at any moment. Rumours are heating up big time with Barca as favourites. Between Sanchez and Pedro or Benzema and Di Maria, I would much rather take the Real Madrid pair or Benzema at least and go back to Barca with 30m for Sanchez.

It will be our loss anyhow, doesn't matter if he gets himself in trouble all the time. How often do you see a talent like him capable of winning games all by himself. It's sad it had to come to this just when we thought he had turned the corner and was prepared to stay at Anfield for good.
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25M for Lallana is slightly overprice but hope that he prove me wrong.

Hope we will next get either Shaqiri or Sanchez and then a LB, RB, GK if Reina leave and CB if Toure or Agger leave
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If Lallana completes his move to LFC, I'm happy for that coz Gerrard is losing his legs. Don't see him performing at his peak week in week out. My only complaint about Lallana is the fees. Just too much just because he's a Brit? Well, please prove me wrong Lallaboy. smile.gif

Foresee some fringe players to be sold to fund more buys. Most probably Borini, Aspas, Agger and even Lucas will go. What say you guys?
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QUOTE(w_lun @ Jun 28 2014, 12:40 AM)
25m for Lallana and 30m for Shaw. If they spend the money wisely they might be even stronger  sweat.gif
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Don't know that 25m+30m+4m can compensate for the loss of their manager, striker, AM & left back. Now it seems Lovren might also be leaving.

Anyway bad for soton is good for liverpool biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kakashi44 @ Jun 28 2014, 10:14 AM)
25M for Lallana is slightly overprice but hope that he prove me wrong.

Hope we will next get either Shaqiri or Sanchez and then a LB, RB, GK if Reina leave and CB if Toure or Agger leave
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25m for lallana is just slightly overpriced compared to paying 30m for a teenage left back. That is insane and easily double fair value.

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Lalaboy is a good acquisition !
Now we need a buy wing back x2
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Liverpool is becoming unofficial England team...
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Liverpool is becoming unofficial England team...
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And its better that England go home early cause less injury to players, esp Gerrard , Jonno , Sturridge , Sterling , Lambert and Hendo !!


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And its better that England go home early cause less injury to players, esp Gerrard , Jonno , Sturridge , Sterling , Lambert  and Hendo !!
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2001.
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No matter how much midfielder we bought, gerrard will be automatic starter unless he retired. What i afraid is BR will bench coutinho to accomodate lalaboy. Coutinho present really make our attacking line link with midfield.
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breaking from ESPN. Some world cup star quoted as saying he lost his balance on chiellini.


OK i really wanna make all the excuses in my life from now on
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breaking from ESPN. Some world cup star quoted as saying he lost his balance on chiellini.
OK i really wanna make all the excuses in my life from now on
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The uruguayans really showing true YNWA spirit with suarez.

The total ignorance they showed towards the issue was mindblowing. Their president event told the evil media to let the poor boy off.

The boy was rewarded with a heroes welcome eventhough he practically turned his country's pretty good world cup campaign thus far into disarray.

Such brotherhood.

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holy crap, why on earth would u come up with such excuses, looks like suarez's lawyer is poisoning him more than helping him. with his excuse up in the media, this makes it much worse. he should move on, get help and put his hand up and admit his mistake. it is not like chiellini provoked him like the materazzi zidane case. okay maybe he was a bit too physical defending against u, but as a striker in a contact sport, he should deal with it with a proper mindset. something is really wrong in his mind, i hope he uses this 4 months to get over it and understand his mistake instead of coming up with absurd excuses...he profess his love for his wife and kids constantly off and on the field, i hope his wife knock some sense in his brain. 3 times is way too many, hes 27 and approaching the peak of his abilities.
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Suarez has single handedly snatched away Uruguay's world cup campaign.

They will not admit it, but the Uruguayan are tasting the medicine Suarez served Ghana in the last World Cup.
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he lost his balance? srysly wtf

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Suarez is lying through his teeth. Oh wait... such irony
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25million for lalana is better spend on rodriquez from columbia.he maginificient. Now sure his price increase
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QUOTE(VoiVod @ Jun 29 2014, 11:09 AM)
Suarez is lying through his teeth. Oh wait... such irony
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jun 29 2014, 11:37 AM)
25million for lalana is better spend on rodriquez from columbia.he maginificient. Now sure his price increase
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Monaco had him for 40m, how on earthwe getting him for 25m?

If we had lalana, more likely shariqi will not coming here
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Jun 29 2014, 02:17 PM)
Monaco had him for 40m, how on earthwe getting him for 25m?

If we had lalana, more likely shariqi will not coming here
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Shaqiri still have chance to come coz we are buying 2 players for each of our 3 midlfielders.

Gerard/Emra Can
Hendo/Shaqiri
Couthino/Lalaboy

This is 4-3-3.

If we play 3-5-2

We will use both Shaqiri n Lalaboy with Hendo, Gerard/Can and Sterling.

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Dont we have news linked Lucas out of Anfield. Would love to see Medel brought in as replacement. That man was a total beast!
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jun 29 2014, 02:47 PM)
Dont we have news linked Lucas out of Anfield. Would love to see Medel brought in as replacement. That man was a total beast!
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According to Telegraph, Suarez is expected to leave and Sanchez to be included as part of the deal with Barcelona.

'The biggest move will be the expected departure of Suárez and there now appears an acceptance at Anfield that he will go despite signing a new long-term contract.

Liverpool therefore want to include Sánchez as part of the negotiations with Barcelona. It appears that Barcelona will not have to meet the buy-out clause in Suárez’s contract – estimated at between £65 million and £80  million depending on sources – if Sánchez is included.'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...mer-target.html


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Strange things happend i gip you all the chronology

1) Suarez comes back scored 2 goals and sinked England

2) The next day, all praise to the amazing come back and tip him to success in WC 2014

3) Then here comes the tricky news, all of sudden Real Madrid and Barca news come back from ashes eventho they know Suarez is signed till 2018

4) Then all speculations and the release clause appear out of nowhere

5) LFC of coz reluctant to sell

6) Match vs Italy he bit

7) Everyone comdemed Suarez like he just killed their own pets or rape their mothers/sisters or relative

8)2 days later Banhammer came down hard

9) Suddenly they suggest Suarez can leave with cut off price, and LFC have since changed their mind of not selling Suarez.

The whole thing happened fast in less than 10 days like a scripted Wayang Kuli. A lot of fishy ain't it?
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doubt so le, if he Suarez wants to leave he could have ask for transfer if there is a concrete offer. I believe its a cycle, Suarez will leave in my opinion.. Liverpool needs to build up the squad money for him would be handy, reinvest in new blood, younger talent etc..

Suarez cant play for liverpool for 50 years, just have to accept the fact footballer's career.
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Falcao close to moving to Real means Barca's the only one interested in Suarez now, no?
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According to Telegraph, Suarez is expected to leave and Sanchez to be included as part of the deal with Barcelona.

'The biggest move will be the expected departure of Suárez and there now appears an acceptance at Anfield that he will go despite signing a new long-term contract.

Liverpool therefore want to include Sánchez as part of the negotiations with Barcelona. It appears that Barcelona will not have to meet the buy-out clause in Suárez’s contract – estimated at between £65 million and £80  million depending on sources – if Sánchez is included.'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...mer-target.html
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jun 29 2014, 02:26 PM)
Shaqiri still have chance to come coz we are buying 2 players for each of our 3 midlfielders.

Gerard/Emra Can
Hendo/Shaqiri
Couthino/Lalaboy

This is 4-3-3.

If we play 3-5-2

We will use both Shaqiri n Lalaboy with Hendo, Gerard/Can and Sterling.
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Very much unlikely for shaqiri as he's similar player as lalama.. but there is still chance for signing sanchez as sterling challenger
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Very much unlikely for shaqiri as he's similar player as lalama.. but there is still chance for signing sanchez as sterling challenger
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so suarez to barca, in exchange for sanchez+cash?


Also what's with the rumours of Real Madrid watching Sterling?
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jun 29 2014, 07:56 PM)
Shaqiri is more Sterling than Lallana.
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If rumors are to believe, than i think BR is getting it right...After E.Can, Lambert, Lallana, we are linked with Markovic, Origi (my personal fave), Shqiri, Sanchez etc...we are probably looking at 6-7 players, which i think is probably needed not only becos of CL, but to sustain the hunger of all players in the squad, kept them believing that we are in for the long haul and its a BIG project.

If there is one thing i wanted to see, its that we go for established stars ready to test themselve in the BPL. Probly players in their prime age instead of promising young players - aside from SG and Glen Johnson, we have the youngest squad afterall.... Therefore, Sanchez is one that i seriously wish to see at Anfield.

Another player which we miss out is Jeremy Menez, he can be a gamble depending on your perspective, but a sure talent, he has everything technique, skill and speed... he fits the profile BR is looking for, superb close control, can score with both feet, take on defenders..god knows why we didnt snap him up when he is available on free...
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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Jun 29 2014, 11:41 PM)
If rumors are to believe, than i think BR is getting it right...After E.Can, Lambert, Lallana, we are linked with Markovic, Origi (my personal fave), Shqiri, Sanchez etc...we are probably looking at 6-7 players, which i think is probably needed not only becos of CL, but to sustain the hunger of all players in the squad, kept them believing that we are in for the long haul and its a BIG project.

If there is one thing i wanted to see, its that we go for established stars ready to test themselve in the BPL. Probly players in their prime age instead of promising young players - aside from SG and Glen Johnson, we have the youngest squad afterall.... Therefore, Sanchez is one that i seriously wish to see at Anfield.

Another player which we miss out is Jeremy Menez, he can be a gamble depending on your perspective, but a sure talent, he has everything technique, skill and speed... he fits the profile BR is looking for, superb close control, can score with both feet, take on defenders..god knows why we didnt snap him up when he is available on free...
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Well, I would rather see we getting 4 top class players instead of gambling on up-and-coming talents (if they are). BR has said himself that this time around it's quality over quantity. We've only seen 2 players that he bought that have been excellent with the club.

But our defence is still seriously soft. Why hasn't there been any rumours linking us with a LB/CB since Moreno deal failed?
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Now, Gunners are going in for Sanchez. Real going for Sterling and Barca for Suarez.

Musical chairs, anyone? :0
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QUOTE(markblurberry @ Jun 29 2014, 11:41 PM)
If rumors are to believe, than i think BR is getting it right...After E.Can, Lambert, Lallana, we are linked with Markovic, Origi (my personal fave), Shqiri, Sanchez etc...we are probably looking at 6-7 players, which i think is probably needed not only becos of CL, but to sustain the hunger of all players in the squad, kept them believing that we are in for the long haul and its a BIG project.

If there is one thing i wanted to see, its that we go for established stars ready to test themselve in the BPL. Probly players in their prime age instead of promising young players - aside from SG and Glen Johnson, we have the youngest squad afterall.... Therefore, Sanchez is one that i seriously wish to see at Anfield.

Another player which we miss out is Jeremy Menez, he can be a gamble depending on your perspective, but a sure talent, he has everything technique, skill and speed... he fits the profile BR is looking for, superb close control, can score with both feet, take on defenders..god knows why we didnt snap him up when he is available on free...
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Sell Suarez to Spain. Brings in 6-7 players? Including a high profile South American winger/forward. Sounds familiar? biggrin.gif
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Robben's a very very dangerous winger. With dribbling skill that he has, getting penalty is just like a walk in the park. whistling.gif
Poor Mexico, they were the better side especially the first 2/3 of the game. sweat.gif
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You won't get penalty if you keep balls at your own half.
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Aspas will carry the team forward next season. #berdiritegangdibelakangaspas

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QUOTE(aiyish @ Jun 30 2014, 02:48 PM)
Aspas will carry the team forward next season. #berdiritegangdibelakangaspas
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If he can fight win over Origi
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QUOTE(DaveDSix @ Jun 30 2014, 02:51 PM)
aspas borini orgi sturo lambert suarez
six guys fighting fo two positions
while at leftback n rightback
we had enrique johno flano lelz
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bersabar.... Rojo still in action...
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jun 30 2014, 02:49 PM)
If he can fight win over Origi
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Why do we need another striker? Can anyone enlighten me?


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Why do we need another striker? Can anyone enlighten me?
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He will then loan back to Lillie after signed. When Lambert retired, he will join us
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He will then loan back to Lillie after signed. When Lambert retired, he will join us
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If he is going back for loan then it make sense but some reports saying he will join us because we can offered him CL. (rejected Tottenham and W.Ham)

Is he worth 10 mil? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(melt @ Jun 30 2014, 03:10 PM)
If he is going back for loan then it make sense but some reports saying he will join us because we can offered him CL. (rejected Tottenham and W.Ham)

Is he worth 10 mil?  hmm.gif
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He will join us if Suarez left us to braca without sanzhez.
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He will join us if Suarez left us to braca without sanzhez.
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Impossible. No way are we letting him go without Sanchez. First, it's hard to get strikers swap in opposite direction. Secondly, if they throw in Sanchez, we don't havta negotiate to bring Sanchez. It's easier than selling Suarez 1st, then buy Sanchez. If they throw him in, then we don't havta pay more.

I personally like Pedro too although almost impossible since we going for Markovic. And for Shaqiri, I doubt he will come. Sterling, Coutinho, Markovic and Lalaboy fighting for AM/Wing roles. If we do get Shaqiri, we will be overcrowded. Sanchez + Lambert + Sturridge + Borini = enough strikers. Origi will officially join us as a player after Lambert retire.
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i dont care anymore. i can't wait for the season to start.

Everyday read transfer news makes my patience gone.
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QUOTE(genjo @ Jun 30 2014, 04:05 PM)
i dont care anymore. i can't wait for the season to start.

Everyday read transfer news makes my patience gone.
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LOL, you better go hiatus for 1 month. we will ring u up when season started biggrin.gif
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LOL, you better go hiatus for 1 month. we will ring u up when season started biggrin.gif
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NO ! biggrin.gif

Cause i always follow LFC news.

Like the Moreno deal. Looks going to happen. Suddenly the deal is off.


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QUOTE(genjo @ Jun 30 2014, 04:25 PM)
NO ! biggrin.gif

Cause i always follow LFC news.

Like the Moreno deal. Looks going to happen. Suddenly the deal is off.
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it's like that one lar, how many that kind of rumors we have gone thru last year? miki, willian, salah. aiyoo heartache when brought all those up.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jun 30 2014, 04:26 PM)
it's like that one lar, how many that kind of rumors we have gone thru last year? miki, willian, salah. aiyoo heartache when brought all those up.
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Yup.

Last season is heart attack season.

Hopefully we will all go through this season without heart attack.
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I'm glad we got Rickie Lambert. I believe he will play his heart out for us and add many goals and assists. Happy that our LFC owners approved the acquisition of this 30+ years old.

Thought of this when I saw the Holland v Mexico game. Hey, our Mr Duracell is still a starter and he was no liability either. I thought he played a disciplined and steady game for the Dutch out on the left. Players like Kuyt may be over 30 but they are so dependable.
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i dont care anymore. i can't wait for the season to start.

Everyday read transfer news makes my patience gone.
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I feel you brader... cheers.gif
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QUOTE(genjo @ Jun 30 2014, 04:32 PM)
Yup.

Last season is heart attack season.

Hopefully we will all go through this season without heart attack.
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QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Jun 30 2014, 04:39 PM)
I'm glad we got Rickie Lambert. I believe he will play his heart out for us and add many goals and assists. Happy that our LFC owners approved the acquisition of this 30+ years old.

Thought of this when I saw the Holland v Mexico game. Hey, our Mr Duracell is still a starter and he was no liability either. I thought he played a disciplined and steady game for the Dutch out on the left. Players like Kuyt may be over 30 but they are so dependable.
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If LVG is going to play the same tactic for MU like how the Dutch team is playing, it will be quite boring which will be good for us.

I don't see any flair or fluidity vs when the manager was Van Basten/Marwijk and Van Persie (apart from the 1st game) he was really under utilized.

The only person running the show was poor Robben. Dribble up and down but no one to pass to.
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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Jun 30 2014, 05:00 PM)
If LVG is going to play the same tactic for MU like how the Dutch team is playing, it will be quite boring which will be good for us.

I don't see any flair or fluidity vs when the manager was Van Basten/Marwijk and Van Persie (apart from the 1st game) he was really under utilized.

The only person running the show was poor Robben. Dribble up and down but no one to pass to.
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every mu fans is so excited bout LVG

but they 4got they dun have robben






still some of them will say they hav januzaj laugh.gif
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I don't think Suarez will leave Liverpool (hope it isn't jinxed)

I don't see a guy like him fighting for goals for us anymore after Kuyt.

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Lallana to be announced tonight?
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Lallana set to be announced tonight according to a lot of sources. Keep pressing that F5 button. laugh.gif
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Lallana set to be announced tonight according to a lot of sources. Keep pressing that F5 button. laugh.gif
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We should go for Arda Turan too. Atletico madrid are willing to sell and he's a huge fan of LFC. drool.gif


Turan+Lallana drool.gif


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Sanchez said he'll choose Gunners over us if Barca decides to sell.
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Took him long enough...

http://www.espnfc.com/uruguay/story/192370...orgio-chiellini
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Wonder if it is genuine, or insisted by Barca as reported hmm.gif
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Is it weird that there's still no news on lallana deal?
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jul 1 2014, 02:03 AM)
Chiellini's response

https://twitter.com/chiellini/status/483671807380443136

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Reports saying the Liverpool were not involved in this so I guess it should be pathway for him to go to Barca.

Well after Liverpool have done for him and this is what we get.

Just hope he doesnt make anything to lower down his value, If he is doing that he is just another Owen in the making.
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Sanchez said he'll choose Gunners over us if Barca decides to sell.
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probably they will wait for Emre Can and do double official signing in one day to unveil them instead of one by one. Save cost marrr
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LoL, beli player berjuta-juta, tapi this kind of cost also mau kasi kiam...  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Jul 1 2014, 09:54 AM)
because there not many striker, only GIroud to compete. here need to challenge Sturridge and Lambert. not to forget Borini and Aspas (well...) tongue.gif
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now this would definitely be a dream come true

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anyone has Liverpool fixture that can add to your android phone? i have it, but dunno how to share it via phone... if anyone has, can share it here...

look at the fixture, we will do friendly against top club, like Ac Milan, Borussia....
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Jul 1 2014, 09:54 AM)
because there not many striker, only GIroud to compete. here need to challenge Sturridge and Lambert. not to forget Borini and Aspas (well...) tongue.gif
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with his ability, you think he will be worried of competing a spot in the starting eleven? laugh.gif

the more likely reason is that...

prefer london life.
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with his ability, you think he will be worried of competing a spot in the starting eleven?  laugh.gif

the more likely reason is that...

prefer london life.
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now this would definitely be a dream come true

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lack of info with Origi, Markovic, Lovren still have doubts on these 3 players wink.gif
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now this would definitely be a dream come true

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But currently no. 9 occupied by Iago Aspas, no. 11 occupied by Assaidi.  hmm.gif
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Apparently, we've agreed a deal for Divock Origi.

http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-li...tar-14062798738
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Apparently, we've agreed a deal for Divock Origi.

http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-li...tar-14062798738
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Lallana's switch is taking quite long huh? Heard he was already at the medical check up stage.
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Lallana's switch is taking quite long huh? Heard he was already at the medical check up stage.
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bawa bertenang. only believe when they appear on official LFC site/facebook.
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http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-li...tar-14062798738

Funny how it says we can offer him Champions League football when it's said he'd be loaned back to Lille and there's no guarantee we'll be in Europe the following season.
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Lallana's switch is taking quite long huh? Heard he was already at the medical check up stage.
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http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/48...pool-move-TODAY
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it seems like we are not going to sign shaqiri right? juventus is on the edge of buying him over
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Rumours are that they are considering a bid from Man Utd for Vidal around the $40 mil mark. If this goes through, they'll have the cash to buy Shaqiri for sure.
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lallana deal confirm

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Emre Can's Deal not yet done? sad.gif

Quite suprising, Adam Lallana officially announced earlier than Emre Can hmm.gif
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Welcome Lalana! Just read his interview, he seem very proud and thrilled to have joined us. Hopefully he and Lambert will settle in nice and easy. Saints fans will not be pleased with some of those quotes.

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So he will wear No. 20 (1:05 minute) hmm.gif

Same No. at Soton.

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hmm. I think we need more proven players.
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Apparently, Wikipedia says Emre's ours already.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emre_Can
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Apparently, Wikipedia says Emre's ours already.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emre_Can
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Doubt so. Else we would have seen the pictures already hahaha

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Hmmm.... read that there will be 3 more new signings. Any guesses?

Also, there must be someone leaving.... Why not even a whisper on who's going out?
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QUOTE(normeck @ Jul 1 2014, 10:05 AM)
anyone has Liverpool fixture that can add to your android phone? i have it, but dunno how to share it via phone...  if anyone has, can share it here...

look at the fixture, we will do friendly against top club,  like Ac Milan, Borussia....
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http://www.myanfield.net/2014/06/liverpool...dar-201415.html

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Hmmm.... read that there will be 3 more new signings. Any guesses?

Also, there must be someone leaving.... Why not even a whisper on who's going out?
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Pretty obvious Suarez is leaving and his sale will finance the additional players. My guess the players we are looking at are Origi, Markovic and perhaps Lovren.
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hmm. I think we need more proven players.
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My goodness...why are we still swooning over British players.
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Well there used to be a saying that a strong England is a strong Liverpool. Or the other way around.

I don't mind the English but preferably come in from our youth ranks. But now our youth system is already down the drain thanks to the Barcelona Trio having sacked just because they weren't Brendan Rodger's yes men.
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Must compliment Ayre this time for being firm and quick in getting our targets in early. In fact we are the quickest off the block with the signing of Lambert, followed closely by Can and now Lalana...Whether can these players make us stronger next season, only time will tell, but I'd like to think BR knows what he wanted - and based on my own opinion @ 25million, Lalana is definitely a starter in the 11...but the question is who will he replace? Just to take it slightly further, now we know he can both attack and defend, great commodities, and the bonus is definitely him covering lotsa ground. If I am to hatch a guess, I'd say, he will gradually replace SG instead Coutinho..

Whatever it is...if we did got Lalana on 23 - 25 mill, I think is slightly overpaid, but it's due more on the sell on fee for Bournemouth, otherwise his value is not too inflated - given that he was the captain for his prev club, possess traits favored by our gaffer, a full fledge England international and most important of all play the kind of football similar to ours..indeed i think the fee doesn't look that bad, and if benchmark against what Manur paid of herera @ 29million - I'd like to think we got a better bargain....granted theirs a younger player, but I think we got better value that out-weight the risk of being unproven in the BPL, and with them paying close to 30million each for 2 youngsters, I think its astronomical and represent greater risk...but how I wish we can get an established LB asap, which have been a weak spot for us throughout last season...having White Cafu is simply not good enough for us to challenge for UCL...
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We might be getting 5-7 more players in with the sales of Suares.. No idea why, I think he is leaving lol
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weh really we are going for Origin?? no please.... gaya dia lari mcm weird jek... (i like flair players like messi, torres... whistling.gif
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According to The Independent UK,

'Luis Suarez to Barcelona: Liverpool to open first officials talks over £80m deal involving Alexis Sanchez'

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...ez-9577529.html

Think Suarez is really leaving.
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QUOTE(alidan @ Jul 2 2014, 05:50 AM)
According to The Independent UK,

'Luis Suarez to Barcelona: Liverpool to open first officials talks over £80m deal involving Alexis Sanchez'

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...ez-9577529.html

Think Suarez is really leaving.
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Well no players are that loyal, unless they prove it with passage of time.

Proven goalscorers that are loyal to the club, and still score lots of goals.. We don't have those in numbers.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jul 2 2014, 12:54 AM)
Rightly said. Paying over the top dollar for Soto's one season wonders is a risky gamble.

My goodness...why are we still swooning over British players.
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weh really we are going for Origin?? no please.... gaya dia lari mcm weird jek...  (i like flair players like messi, torres...  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(normeck @ Jul 2 2014, 05:40 AM)
weh really we are going for Origin?? no please.... gaya dia lari mcm weird jek...  (i like flair players like messi, torres...  whistling.gif
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As much as I like Origi, I kinda prefer to grab Lukaku if he's for sale, especially the fact that Lukaku is proven to be able to survive/perform in EPL.
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Jul 2 2014, 08:19 AM)
Well no players are that loyal, unless they prove it with passage of time.

Proven goalscorers that are loyal to the club, and still score lots of goals.. We don't have those in numbers.
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I do hope that we will get Sanchez out of this deal. Enough with English players already.

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Well, if (and most likely) Suarez leaves, I do want Barca to pay real value rather than play with the 4 months ban bullshit and ask for a reduced price. Pay up or shut up!

Throw in Sanchez in that deal; not separate deal. Having said that, I think Sanchez prefers Gunners to us, so getting a player that has no heart or intention to join us can be a risk too.

Anyway, the whole Suarez is like a wayang kulit. Suarez bites, then got banned. Then issued apologies and Barca praised him. If this is not an engineered move, I don't know what is. Peter Jackson could be directing it! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 2 2014, 10:31 AM)
Well, if (and most likely) Suarez leaves, I do want Barca to pay real value rather than play with the 4 months ban bullshit and ask for a reduced price. Pay up or shut up!

Throw in Sanchez in that deal; not separate deal. Having said that, I think Sanchez prefers Gunners to us, so getting a player that has no heart or intention to join us can be a risk too.

Anyway, the whole Suarez is like a wayang kulit. Suarez bites, then got banned. Then issued apologies and Barca praised him. If this is not an engineered move, I don't know what is. Peter Jackson could be directing it! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jul 2 2014, 12:54 AM)
Rightly said. Paying over the top dollar for Soto's one season wonders is a risky gamble.

My goodness...why are we still swooning over British players.
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1 season wonder for those never watch the player.. if u watch soton since their arrival on top flight, lallana easily one of their influence player.. the player tat really 1seasn wonder in tat team shuld be jay and shaw..

If lalana is spanish, people easily think he is 25m.. it's irony
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Barca is doing their job all right, sucking up to Suarez. Their intention is clear as day. If Barca wants him it's 50m+Sanchez.

I don't know what you guys are smoking here but Lallana is definitely not a one season wonder.
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QUOTE(bitebug @ Jul 2 2014, 11:15 AM)
Barca is doing their job all right, sucking up to Suarez. Their intention is clear as day. If Barca wants him it's 50m+Sanchez.

I don't know what you guys are smoking here but Lallana is definitely not a one season wonder.
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He is definitely worth that. He would be someone we hope to create chance out of nothing.

Anyway this basically give us the real pic on the transfer of Suarez


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...price-deal.html

We should only sell if we get what we wanted.
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barca and rm are well known for their public tapping and get away with it. i hugely believe suarez ban (all football related) but exclude transfer is to make way for suarez to move to either barca or rm. and since rm always make use of their star player to make money from sponsor and all, that would leave only barca.

i say accept a straight cash of $70m or $50m + sanchez or $30m + sanchez + pedro
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Jul 2 2014, 11:27 AM)
barca and rm are well known for their public tapping and get away with it. i hugely believe suarez ban (all football related) but exclude transfer is to make way for suarez to move to either barca or rm. and since rm always make use of their star player to make money from sponsor and all, that would leave only barca.

i say accept a straight cash of $70m or $50m + sanchez or $30m + sanchez + pedro
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50M to spend on shaqiri, Moreno and Lovren and we are good to go for 2014/2015

*Happy to have Borini as our backup striker if he stays.

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Still all news about attacking player.....where is our cover for defensive man??

Has Brendan forgot something that we only have Lucas as our defensive mid and Enrique as LB with a converted Flanno as backup??
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QUOTE(GrandElf @ Jul 2 2014, 12:04 PM)
Still all news about attacking player.....where is our cover for defensive man??

Has Brendan forgot something that we only have Lucas as our defensive mid and Enrique as LB with a converted Flanno as backup??
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QUOTE(GrandElf @ Jul 2 2014, 12:04 PM)
Still all news about attacking player.....where is our cover for defensive man??

Has Brendan forgot something that we only have Lucas as our defensive mid and Enrique as LB with a converted Flanno as backup??
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We need some defensive covers. Now, all transfers are forward/attacking players.

Maybe we're playing a new formation, 0-5-5 next season! smile.gif
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We need some defensive covers. Now, all transfers are forward/attacking players.

Maybe we're playing a new formation, 0-5-5 next season! smile.gif
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so many fans blame BR n disappointed on buying lallana

but so much excited on origi???

his playing vs usa remind me of ngog doh.gif

yet most fans excited on him n disappointed on lallana

cannot brain



btw some rumours from rawk said that lallana fees is 16m + add on which total might up to 25m
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QUOTE(keong24 @ Jul 2 2014, 12:38 PM)
so many fans blame BR n disappointed on buying lallana

but so much excited on origi???

his playing vs usa remind me of ngog  doh.gif

yet most fans excited on him n disappointed on lallana

cannot brain
btw some rumours from rawk said that lallana fees is 16m + add on which total might up to 25m
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anyone interested with James Rodrigues?

Can we sign him?
Heard..RM is chasing him..
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Think Barca wont allow Pedro to leave. 50m + sanchez I will be more than happy.
50M to spend on shaqiri, Moreno and Lovren and we are good to go for 2014/2015

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That's what barca are offering right now, 80mil or 50mil + Sanchez
But 1 thing I don't like is that day heard on the radio Sanchez would rather join Arsenal over us..
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Jul 2 2014, 01:17 PM)
That's what barca are offering right now, 80mil or 50mil + Sanchez
But 1 thing I don't like is that day heard on the radio Sanchez would rather join Arsenal over us..
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That's what barca are offering right now, 80mil or 50mil + Sanchez
But 1 thing I don't like is that day heard on the radio Sanchez would rather join Arsenal over us..
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Let him taste european night at Anfield sure he will change his mind  rclxms.gif
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Think you watch different match coz i think he's brilliant.. almost like belgian messi
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belgian messi??

mayb i watch diff match then

did not saw him dribble past any player vs usa

onli rmb one header n kena steal the ball from behind when he jogging with ball
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Let him taste european night at Anfield sure he will change his mind  rclxms.gif
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Aw.. I missed those damn days..
But it certainly sucks if Suarez leave cause end of the season he say he is committed to us and now he is on the verge of leaving.. In BPL it's hard to find player who are willing to stay at the clubs when a good club comes in, but you can see in Spain and German some player would rather stay at the club than to move to others
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QUOTE(keong24 @ Jul 2 2014, 01:44 PM)
belgian messi??

mayb i watch diff match then

did not saw him dribble past any player vs usa

onli rmb one header n kena steal the ball from behind when he jogging with ball
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Bet u miss the part where he drag the ball from left side n pass to merten and his through ball to mirallas.. could easily get 3 assist last nite
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Lallana posted this on newspaper

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Lallana posted this on newspaper

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watching yesterday game, if we get Origi around 10 mil will be good deal as a backup striker. he looks comfortable with the ball and yet look threatening in front of goal. and way way better than our clumsy Aspas.
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watching yesterday game, if we get Origi around 10 mil will be good deal as a backup striker. he looks comfortable with the ball and yet look threatening in front of goal. and way way better than our clumsy Aspas.
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Bet u miss the part where he drag the ball from left side n pass to merten and his through ball to mirallas.. could easily get 3 assist last nite
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ok mayb i din pay attention to him enuff hmm.gif

but when he jogging thn kena steal ball from behind i reli shout out wtf lol


but my point is,

i just cannot brain y there is always strong pessimistic feeling on new signing when he not even touch the ball for us yet



i still rmb the reaction of fans when v sign sturridge few yrs ago, across few liverpool forum in the world doh.gif

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QUOTE(keong24 @ Jul 2 2014, 02:52 PM)
ok mayb i din pay attention to him enuff  hmm.gif

but when he jogging thn kena steal ball from behind i reli shout out wtf lol
but my point is,

i just cannot brain y there is always strong pessimistic feeling on new signing when he not even touch the ball for us yet
i still rmb the reaction of fans when v sign sturridge few yrs ago, across few liverpool forum in the world  doh.gif
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Origi didn't do much at the first halves, but in second halves he and vortengen leading the attacking. He has 2 clear chances to scored and also at least 2 assist if mertens and another belgium playes can convert. He was sub out to make way for Lukaku for fresh energy and it has paid off for belgium coz USA tired while Lukaku rape USA entire defense line.
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QUOTE(keong24 @ Jul 2 2014, 02:52 PM)
ok mayb i din pay attention to him enuff  hmm.gif

but when he jogging thn kena steal ball from behind i reli shout out wtf lol
but my point is,

i just cannot brain y there is always strong pessimistic feeling on new signing when he not even touch the ball for us yet
i still rmb the reaction of fans when v sign sturridge few yrs ago, across few liverpool forum in the world  doh.gif
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Coz he's 19 y/o.. a youngster who have ball to do this and that will probably be a good player one day.. coz most average youth, the just to afraid to intercept and play it safe..

I really hope sanchez will be coming here tbh
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Jul 2 2014, 03:20 PM)
Coz he's 19 y/o.. a youngster who have ball to do this and that will probably be a good player one day.. coz most average youth, the just to afraid to intercept and play it safe..

I really hope sanchez will be coming here tbh
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ok will c him more vs argentina lol

btw i support sanchez as well brows.gif

if come true ini memang so call marque signing in recent yrs
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Rumors said that we are targeting baloteli also
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“Liverpool remain adamant Suarez will be sold only should a club meet a release-clause of around £80m that was included in the £200,000-a-week contract he signed in December”, write The Guardian

All the reports explain that Ayre and Liverpool will make it clear to Barcelona that they will not allow Suarez to leave on the cheap. The Catalans must pay the asking price – believed to be close to £80 million, especially given Real Madrid spent £85m on Gareth Bale last summer.

Liverpool are keen to ensure Sanchez, the impressive Chile forward who is comfortable playing on the right of a three-man attack, is part of the deal as a replacement for Suarez.


http://www.thisisanfield.com/2014/07/liver...lona-wednesday/
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wow, Suarez + Balotelli combo in attacking front?    brows.gif
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He's a good players in case Sanchez doesn't want to join us. But yeah he doesn't have a bright record when it comes to discipline too.

Oh wait, Arsenal was linked with him too laugh.gif
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Isco > Rodriguez
Think BR wants it sorted it quickly in Suarez's case. Waiting do we get the money or not. Just like spurs got their money and spend straight away. So I hope we dont spend on mindless players.

Spurs got only 1 good deal on that money which is Eriksen

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Suarez + Balotelli huh.

Well don't think it would happen, but it does sound very enticing.
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According to Telegraph, we are interested in Chelsea's LB, Ryan Betrand

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Liverpool could make a move for Chelsea left back Ryan Bertrand after being priced out of a move for Sevilla's Alberto Moreno.

The Spaniard was Liverpool's top target to fill the void at left back but Brendan Rodgers does not want to meet Sevilla's £20m asking price for the 21-year-old

Bertrand could be available for around £8m.


What do you guys think? We definitely need a LB though.
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According to Telegraph, we are interested in Chelsea's LB, Ryan Betrand
What do you guys think? We definitely need a LB though.
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He didn't impress me when he was playing for Chelsea and the time when he was on loan. We don't need a LB, we need a DAMN GOOD LB. I don't see how getting him will help us with our defensive problem. Flano looked better playing in the LB position than he was.
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Guys, please loan our Bertrand... felt sorry for him didnt get game time....moses also didnt mind for a 2nd loan biggrin.gif
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Guys, please loan our Bertrand... felt sorry for  him didnt get game time....moses also didnt mind for a 2nd loan biggrin.gif
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You can keep Moses, he's too good for us.
I don't mind getting Schürrle though, since he doesn't get much game time too. laugh.gif
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You can keep Moses, he's too good for us.
I don't mind getting Schürrle though, since he doesn't get much game time too.  laugh.gif
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Anyway, no Emre Can announcement until Thurs/Friday according to reporter of Liverpool Echo

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You can keep Moses, he's too good for us.
I don't mind getting Schürrle though, since he doesn't get much game time too.  laugh.gif
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schurrle is kinda decent as a wide player...but he has outstanding ability in his poaching skill...always pop out somewhere crucial to score a goal...his finishing also quite good...kinda like sturridge when he was at chelsea...excellent as 2nd striker/shadow striker behind the targetmen...

you guys dont need him you already have sturridge,,, laugh.gif
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 2 2014, 11:17 PM)
schurrle is kinda decent as a wide player...but he has outstanding ability in his poaching skill...always pop out somewhere crucial to score a goal...his finishing also quite good...kinda like sturridge when he was at chelsea...excellent as 2nd striker/shadow striker behind the targetmen...

you guys dont need him you already have sturridge,,,  laugh.gif
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bg loan either oscar or willian pun jadi lah
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QUOTE(w_lun @ Jul 2 2014, 10:21 PM)
look like luis replacement is sorted
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 2 2014, 11:17 PM)
schurrle is kinda decent as a wide player...but he has outstanding ability in his poaching skill...always pop out somewhere crucial to score a goal...his finishing also quite good...kinda like sturridge when he was at chelsea...excellent as 2nd striker/shadow striker behind the targetmen...

you guys dont need him you already have sturridge,,,  laugh.gif
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Good read on Suarez's current situation

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/21173...?is_shared=true
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poor borini if he knew he not reliable at all
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Congrats Carillion !

Welcome to LFC biggrin.gif

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55.7M opening bit, without Sanchez?? they gotta be kidding right?

*edit - its up to 70M now - http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/j...-70m?CMP=twt_gu

btw is this believable? http://www1.skysports.com/transfer/news/11...r-kevin-stewart

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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jul 3 2014, 08:15 AM)
https://twitter.com/KevStewart93/status/484338964351156224

more on suarez:
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/story/1929685/barc...suarez-transfer

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seems like Sanchez isnt coming. Straight up cash 75mil, hope we get 2 world class player out of this 75mil and get it done with this Suarez saga.

i am hoping for Lukaku/Reus + Isco/firmino/benard/shaqiri

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why not renovating our defend wall?

we simply can't resolve those set pieces and sudden cross-in =.=
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jul 3 2014, 10:08 AM)
seems like Sanchez isnt coming. Straight up cash 75mil, hope we get 2 world class player out of this 75mil and get it done with this Suarez saga.

i am hoping for Lukaku/Reus + Isco/firmino/benard/shaqiri
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I believe Barca is limited to use cash buy a player resulted of punishment of FFA right? So they got to spend less cash to buy a player in Suarez. A player with a deal is the most ideal for them. We can always out bid Arsenal's 25m bid on Sanchez.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jul 3 2014, 10:18 AM)
I believe Barca is limited to use cash buy a player resulted of punishment of FFA right? So they got to spend less cash to buy a player in Suarez. A player with a deal is the most ideal for them. We can always out bid Arsenal's 25m bid on Sanchez.
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Sanchez don't want to join us, Pedro not for sale. What else player that barcelona could offer to us?

Christian Tello?
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Sanchez don't want to join us, Pedro not for sale. What else player that barcelona could offer to us?

Christian Tello?
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jul 3 2014, 10:23 AM)
yea hopefully, Sanchez on our 3 upfront would be ideal.. But then again i would love to see a real replacement for Suarez likes Lukaku or Reus
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Strudige alone is a 20 plus goals scorers even he have to share the attacking role with Suarez, sometimes he has to let Suarez take the center role. He is very reliable with he is the main attacking man during Suarez's ban, and he can even score with Suarez. Give him excellent provider, he will do wonders. At the moment Sterling not much of provider, only Couthino and last time Suarez who keep fedding Sturidge. Hopefullly with arrival of Lallana with Couthino will help to set up more scoring oppotunitty to Sturidge. Get Shqairi, Shanze who will break down the defense and create chance is our main target. Please bear in mind Suarez also a 10 assist man.
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shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh damn it!!!! we are trying to hide this guy and what on earth you wanna let everyone know!!!!!!!!!!!! we all know Flanno is our future LB/RB already!!!
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jul 3 2014, 10:28 AM)
Strudige alone is a 20 plus goals scorers even he have to share the attacking role with Suarez, sometimes he has to let Suarez take the center role. He is very reliable with he is the main attacking man during Suarez's ban, and he can even score with Suarez. Give him excellent provider, he will do wonders. At the moment Sterling not much of provider, only Couthino and last time Suarez who keep fedding Sturidge. Hopefullly with arrival of Lallana with Couthino will help to set up more scoring oppotunitty to Sturidge. Get Shqairi, Shanze who will break down the defense and create chance is our main target. Please bear in mind Suarez also a 10 assist man.
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yea certainly but Sturridge cant play all the matches without injuries.. we still need another striker. Borini/Aspas not convinced at all, Lambert give another diff dimension hold up play etc.
i think BR wont sell Suarez unless there is potential replacement. I hope he found his target very soon...


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u know what i got a feeling that Barcelona make Suarez to apologise then Barca under table with Fifa to reduce his suspension.


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yea certainly but Sturridge cant play all the matches without injuries.. we still need another striker. Borini/Aspas not convinced at all, Lambert give another diff dimension hold up play etc.
i think BR wont sell Suarez unless there is potential replacement. I hope he found his target very soon...
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I'm resigning to the fact that Suarez will be a Barca player next season. I'm neither glad nor angry. He gave us so much last season and for that I thank him. Made us dream.

However, having said that, he can be real liability to us. Yes, he behaved really well last season and for that I think BR deserves huge credit. What he did in WC was stupid to say the least. Engineering a move to Barca? Well, maybe......

We should sell him ONLY if we can get his true value met by Barca or RM or whoever outside the BPL. I prefer cash + player of BR's choice. If straight cash, there's no guarantee we can get the player we want as others will also bid for the players.

Sanchez is a long shot as he has said that he prefers Gunners. No idea why but maybe he likes Arsene. biggrin.gif
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To be honest, I can't think of any striker that can replace Suarez at the moment, who can create chance out of nothing.  cry.gif  (other than CR7 and messi)
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 3 2014, 10:57 AM)
I'm resigning to the fact that Suarez will be a Barca player next season. I'm neither glad nor angry. He gave us so much last season and for that I thank him. Made us dream.

However, having said that, he can be real liability to us. Yes, he behaved really well last season and for that I think BR deserves huge credit. What he did in WC was stupid to say the least. Engineering a move to Barca? Well, maybe......

We should sell him ONLY if we can get his true value met by Barca or RM or whoever outside the BPL. I prefer cash + player of BR's choice. If straight cash, there's no guarantee we can get the player we want as others will also bid for the players.

Sanchez is a long shot as he has said that he prefers Gunners. No idea why but maybe he likes Arsene. biggrin.gif
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What's the real release clause hold by Suarez ya? Media only reported 70-80m.
Let's say it is 70m, meaning we have no control on the player anymore if Barca willing to pay that amount?
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What's the real release clause hold by Suarez ya? Media only reported 70-80m.
Let's say it is 70m, meaning we have no control on the player anymore if Barca willing to pay that amount?
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barca wont know the release clause unless we tell them. if they know, someone leak the info and violate the law. same goes to Arsenal last season 40million case.
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To be honest, I can't think of any striker that can replace Suarez at the moment, who can create chance out of nothing.  cry.gif  (other than CR7 and messi)
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True, but Liverpool squad made them to be World Class. Torres was just so-so @ Atletico.. Liverpool squad made him a super star, Mascherano was deep down at West Ham.. same goes to him and actually there is many more

Another World class striker will born again in Liverpool squad..
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What's the real release clause hold by Suarez ya? Media only reported 70-80m.
Let's say it is 70m, meaning we have no control on the player anymore if Barca willing to pay that amount?
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After all the news report, you guys believe the existing of release clause on Suarez's contract? If there is one, there is no negotiation to be held, Barca can start pay the release clause +1 pound to active it nd force Liverpool to sell. If such clause is exsisted, i believe the negotiation is only trying to low ball us to sell Suarez. We have the upper hand, either a) 80m or b) 50 plus Sanchez or we got to keep Suarez like what we did last seazon after the biting inccident on Ivanovic. We endured that last season, don't matter we going thru again.
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u know what i got a feeling that Barcelona make Suarez to apologise then Barca under table with Fifa to reduce his suspension.
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That could be very much possible the case. Lets watch the next chapter unfold... next up: Suarez appeal for reduced punishment

QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 3 2014, 10:57 AM)
I'm resigning to the fact that Suarez will be a Barca player next season. I'm neither glad nor angry. He gave us so much last season and for that I thank him. Made us dream.

Sanchez is a long shot as he has said that he prefers Gunners. No idea why but maybe he likes Arsene. biggrin.gif
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Well he wanted CL football and we gave that. If he go, my only disappointment is for not getting the opportunity to watch him in CL as Liverpool player.

As for Sanchez rumour has that he is concern about life off the pitch thus London is preferrable
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That could be very much possible the case. Lets watch the next chapter unfold... next up: Suarez appeal for reduced punishment
Well he wanted CL football and we gave that. If he go, my only disappointment is for not getting the opportunity to watch him in CL as Liverpool player.

As for Sanchez rumour has that he is concern about life off the pitch thus London is preferrable
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That could be very much possible the case. Lets watch the next chapter unfold... next up: Suarez appeal for reduced punishment
Well he wanted CL football and we gave that. If he go, my only disappointment is for not getting the opportunity to watch him in CL as Liverpool player.

As for Sanchez rumour has that he is concern about life off the pitch thus London is preferrable
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After all the news report, you guys believe the existing of release clause on Suarez's contract? If there is one, there is no negotiation to be held, Barca can start pay the release clause +1 pound to active it nd force Liverpool to sell. If such clause is exsisted, i believe the negotiation is only trying to low ball us to sell Suarez. We have the upper hand, either a) 80m or b) 50 plus Sanchez or we got to keep Suarez like what we did last seazon after the biting inccident on Ivanovic. We endured that last season, don't matter we going thru again.
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tell that to Ian Ayre. I believe the club does want to sell him and I do believe the clause exist. I believe is there because Barca is not willing to activate the release clause (Should be 80million) while Liverpool on the other hand willing to offload the problematic player plus I think Suarez did tell the club that he wanted to go to Barca

That why they are negotiating.




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That could be very much possible the case. Lets watch the next chapter unfold... next up: Suarez appeal for reduced punishment
well at the very least, this time round he's not making his intentions to leave as clear as last time. if he does, and the deal does not go through, i say rot him on the bench! vmad.gif
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hell, Ayre would fly him to London everyday if he choose to join tongue.gif
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After all the news report, you guys believe the existing of release clause on Suarez's contract? If there is one, there is no negotiation to be held, Barca can start pay the release clause +1 pound to active it nd force Liverpool to sell. If such clause is exsisted, i believe the negotiation is only trying to low ball us to sell Suarez. We have the upper hand, either a) 80m or b) 50 plus Sanchez or we got to keep Suarez like what we did last seazon after the biting inccident on Ivanovic. We endured that last season, don't matter we going thru again.
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actually, even if got release clause, the club is under no obligation to sell if suarez doesnt want to go.
it just gives the buying club permission to hold talks.
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since couples of years ago, lots of player we target pun x dpt. oh and now sanches dont want to join us and barca try to break the 80mil clause.

we alwiz kena bully one. wtf is wrong with us, feel like kena curse one?

we are selling club every one know dat dy. but if we dont sell at the right price then FML we will be damn.
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since couples of years ago, lots of player we target pun x dpt. oh and now sanches dont want to join us and barca try to break the 80mil clause.

we alwiz kena bully one. wtf is wrong with us, feel like kena curse one?

we are selling club every one know dat dy. but if we dont sell at the right price then FML we will be damn.
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where got kena bully?
50m for torres was a good deal right? tongue.gif
maybe if suarez leaves, then he also will kena the torres curse?
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since couples of years ago, lots of player we target pun x dpt. oh and now sanches dont want to join us and barca try to break the 80mil clause.

we alwiz kena bully one. wtf is wrong with us, feel like kena curse one?

we are selling club every one know dat dy. but if we dont sell at the right price then FML we will be damn.
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I think it take years to gain back our club reputation (As a Title challenger + CL qualifier). Before we done that, top players will reluctant to join us as they have more better options out there (they think).
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I think it take years to gain back our club reputation (As a Title challenger + CL qualifier). Before we done that, top players will reluctant to join us as they have more better options out there (they think).
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where got kena bully?
50m for torres was a good deal right? tongue.gif
maybe if suarez leaves, then he also will kena the torres curse?
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i doubt suarez will kena torres punya curse. he is like a football witch doctor u know, well maybe thats why he need to bite at least 1 footballer in a year to renew his big bad vodoo so he can keep score. Suarez can single handedly create chance, score and even assist. unlike torres, he is goal scoring machine but he seldom do what suarez did.
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jul 3 2014, 11:27 AM)
since couples of years ago, lots of player we target pun x dpt. oh and now sanches dont want to join us and barca try to break the 80mil clause.

we alwiz kena bully one. wtf is wrong with us, feel like kena curse one?

we are selling club every one know dat dy. but if we dont sell at the right price then FML we will be damn.
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Tottenham sold Bale at the right price but where are there.. laugh.gif

We just need to find a suitable replacement if we sold him. What I dont want to see is the Torres and Carroll situation all over again
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Tottenham sold Bale at the right price but where are there.. laugh.gif

We just need to find a suitable replacement if we sold him. What I dont want to see is the Torres and Carroll situation all over again
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This will not be a torres and carroll situation. Torres left in mid season, at a time where most players were not interested to move and clubs were reluctant to sell. Obviously it's going ot be hard to replace Suarez but he will leave for a club record fee and we will have just shy of 2 months to find replacement(s) - but im sure the club had already began that process a long time ago.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 3 2014, 11:42 AM)
This will not be a torres and carroll situation. Torres left in mid season, at a time where most players were not interested to move and clubs were reluctant to sell. Obviously it's going ot be hard to replace Suarez but he will leave for a club record fee and we will have just shy of 2 months to find replacement(s) - but im sure the club had already began that process a long time ago.
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I would be surprised if we sign him to be honest. He just doesn't strike me as a BR type of player. We play fast and furious attacking football and players interchanging roles almost on game to game basis, and Mario from what i've seen like to play on his term and pace. He's a luxury player who's not really a team player. Suarez is a loose cannon but also happens to be a good team player until of course he does the unthinkable and get himself banned.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 3 2014, 11:42 AM)
This will not be a torres and carroll situation. Torres left in mid season, at a time where most players were not interested to move and clubs were reluctant to sell. Obviously it's going ot be hard to replace Suarez but he will leave for a club record fee and we will have just shy of 2 months to find replacement(s) - but im sure the club had already began that process a long time ago.
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I certainly hope so... we might have started long time ago but if the deal doesnt happen earlier anything they planned will be stuck at that point. In the end we are the one who suffered. Either without our best player or overpaid someone for the club who doesnt have enough time to get a replacement.






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I certainly hope so... we might have started long time ago but if the deal doesnt happen earlier anything they planned will be stuck at that point. In the end we are the one who suffered. Either without our best player or overpaid someone for the club who doesnt have enough time to get a replacement.
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I'm confident that Barca will not walk away from this deal. In fact, i reckon they are in a hurry to seal this deal because we have a history to play hardball when offended. They want him bad and will not risk prolonging the negotiation as Madrid are ready to pounce should the deal go sour.
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I'm confident that Barca will not walk away from this deal. In fact, i reckon they are in a hurry to seal this deal because we have a history to play hardball when offended. They want him bad and will not risk prolonging the negotiation as Madrid are ready to pounce should the deal go sour.
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i don't think rm want suarez anymore, they were the first to show interest until the biting incident, now it's all barca.
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I'm confident that Barca will not walk away from this deal. In fact, i reckon they are in a hurry to seal this deal because we have a history to play hardball when offended. They want him bad and will not risk prolonging the negotiation as Madrid are ready to pounce should the deal go sour.
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We still hold all the cards where Barca are just bluffing. We can still hold on to Suarez unless 80m is met(as is it's from release clause). Suarez has burnt his bridge like Reina, Barca have dragged into this situation, no way in hell they will go home empty handed to become a laughing stock in La Liga. Holding on Suarez at the end is a sign of triumphant for us LFC here as we defeat and stay firm of our very own ground. Barca have to compete coz RM is gaining on Facao, James Rod.
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QUOTE(jacckl @ Jul 3 2014, 12:08 PM)
i don't think rm want suarez anymore, they were the first to show interest until the biting incident, now it's all barca.
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They backed out not because of the biting but because Suarez has a preference for Barcelona. His wife's family resides in Catalunya. They might come back should Liverpool decide it doesn't want to deal with Barca. But as it stands, things are going well - the supposed clause is 80mil and that Barca has opened the bid at 70mil according some sources - this might be over by the end of the week.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 3 2014, 12:19 PM)
They backed out not because of the biting but because Suarez has a preference for Barcelona. His wife's family resides in Catalunya. They might come back should Liverpool decide it doesn't want to deal with Barca. But as it stands, things are going well  - the supposed clause is 80mil and that Barca has opened the bid at 70mil according some sources - this might be over by the end of the week.
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they actually opened their bidding at 50+M, which was increased to 70+ not long after the initial bid. LOL.

so.....what about Reina? unsure.gif will he be playing as a rotational keeper? the burnt bridge with BR? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jul 3 2014, 12:22 PM)
they actually opened their bidding at 50+M, which was increased to 70+ not long after the initial bid. LOL.

so.....what about Reina? unsure.gif will he be playing as a rotational keeper? the burnt bridge with BR? hmm.gif
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Well either way - it's not that far from our evaluation. They can raise another 10 or come up with some addons to meet that 80mil. I doubt they will walk away or prolong the negotiation for the last 10mil.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jul 3 2014, 12:17 PM)
We still hold all the cards where Barca are just bluffing. We can still hold on to Suarez unless 80m is met(as is it's from release clause). Suarez has burnt his bridge like Reina, Barca have dragged into this situation, no way in hell they will go home empty handed to become a laughing stock in La Liga. Holding on Suarez at the end is a sign of triumphant for us LFC here as we defeat and stay firm of our very own ground. Barca have to compete coz RM is gaining on Facao, James Rod.
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True, i do feel we still hold all the cards which is why Barca are not wasting time with their bids - their bid is just shy of meeting our evaluation and if i'm not mistaken this is the last window before FIFA resume their transfer ban ? If they miss out this season, there's a good a chance Madrid could sign Suarez with no one else competing for his signature.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 3 2014, 12:31 PM)
True, i do feel we still hold all the cards which is why Barca are not wasting time with their bids - their bid is just shy of meeting our evaluation and if i'm not mistaken this is the last window before FIFA resume their transfer ban ? If they miss out this season, there's a good a chance Madrid could sign Suarez with no one else competing for his signature.
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If they failed,
1) Chances for them to compete with RM in La Liga will be in jeopardy. Coz they are having new coach and team is in rebuilding. Getting Suarez at least can give them a fighting chance against more stable RM with no much of changes and added potential Facao and James Rod.
2) Big IFFY Suarez stayed and perform again and live up to his promise for not biting again. RM will be come in knocking on the door again next year with bigger money and more commission earn to his agent.
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jual suarez 80mil + transfer kitty 100m?? = 180m liao.... profit
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but but...if barca take suarez only...
they still got messi, sanchez, neymar...zzz.
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jul 3 2014, 12:37 PM)
If they failed,
1) Chances for them to compete with RM in La Liga will be in jeopardy. Coz they are having new coach and team is in rebuilding. Getting Suarez at least can give them a fighting chance against more stable RM with no much of changes and added potential Facao and James Rod.
2) Big IFFY Suarez stayed and perform again and live up to his promise for not biting again. RM will be come in knocking on the door again next year with bigger money and more commission earn to his agent.
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they actually opened their bidding at 50+M, which was increased to 70+ not long after the initial bid. LOL.

so.....what about Reina? unsure.gif will he be playing as a rotational keeper? the burnt bridge with BR? hmm.gif
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I saw some reports saying he is willing to take a pay cut to join Napoli. Not sure if Napoli is interested though..

its should a shame for him the way he did last season. Thought he could be no 1 in Barca but in the end he is now in no mans land..

Does he deserved it? I dont know
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1. player + cash all the way
2. buy replacement first sell later


if we sell suarez 80m, all striker we link will automatically pricetag+20m
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60M + Sanchez or else pls tell Barca to go fly kite tongue.gif
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Suarez for Bale and put Bale back as left back. Huehuehuehue

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U can forgive suarez after he bitting ivanovic (how to spell?laugh.gif). Why not forgive reina?he better than mignolet
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jul 3 2014, 01:45 PM)
U can forgive suarez after he bitting ivanovic (how to spell?laugh.gif). Why not forgive reina?he better than mignolet
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80m

ochoa = 0m
de vries = 10m
ricardo = 15m
reus = 25m
shaqiri = 18m
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80m

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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jul 3 2014, 01:53 PM)
well if the club buys after the 80M sale, all players apart from ochoa will have additional 20M "tax" LOL
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QUOTE(melt @ Jul 3 2014, 01:57 PM)
Doubt Dortmund will do this kind of deal
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de vries = 20m
ricardo = 20m
reus = 35m
shaqiri = 20m

if we offer good wage.. anything can settle..

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de vries = 20m
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reus = 350m
shaqiri = 20m

if we offer good wage.. anything can settle..
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lol 350m. He did stated he would want to play for Dortmund this season a few weeks ago.

well he seems to have a release cause in his contract and guess who is interested with him.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2090783...bstacle-remains
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QUOTE(melt @ Jul 3 2014, 02:12 PM)
lol 350m. He did stated he would want to play for Dortmund this season a few weeks ago.

well he seems to have a release cause in his contract and guess who is interested with him.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2090783...bstacle-remains
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just like suarez who is happy here afew month ago.. should try to seal him if we can..

tot his wage is not that high in dortmund too
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Jul 3 2014, 02:20 PM)
just like suarez who is happy here afew month ago.. should try to seal him if we can..

tot his wage is not that high in dortmund too
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FSG will pay hardball with Barca. Henry has been a very firm man in his dealings. No way we're selling Suarez for anything lesser than what we value him. We're in no hurry to sell, Suarez just extended his contract, remember. So, the onus is on Barca to give us a price we can't refuse. Either good cash or reasonable cash+player.

Otherwise, Suarez can sulk, bite or do whatever he likes. He has said he wanted CL and we are in CL this season. But I do think his wife is having a big say in his next move.

Maybe he'll hand in a transfer and forgo whatever bonuses due to him. Then we may save a few more millions!
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 3 2014, 03:23 PM)
FSG will pay hardball with Barca. Henry has been a very firm man in his dealings. No way we're selling Suarez for anything lesser than what we value him. We're in no hurry to sell, Suarez just extended his contract, remember. So, the onus is on Barca to give us a price we can't refuse. Either good cash or reasonable cash+player.

Otherwise, Suarez can sulk, bite or do whatever he likes. He has said he wanted CL and we are in CL this season. But I do think his wife is having a big say in his next move.

Maybe he'll hand in a transfer and forgo whatever bonuses due to him. Then we may save a few more millions!
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Yup we will save a few more millions, and then we go embark on a 3 season journey to find another potent goal scorer/creator like Suarez, wasting tens of millions in the process. Way to go.
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QUOTE(moodswingfella @ Jul 3 2014, 12:37 PM)
a lot liao. im gutted when seing alonso, masch leave our club. and still no body can replace them. still remember when suarez come he dreaming to play with torres. but torres gone. now suarez migt gone too, and we yet to find an equal replacement. and with most all of our transfer target kena hijacked, that add a salt to the wound.

i doubt suarez will kena torres punya curse. he is like a football witch doctor u know, well maybe thats why he need to bite at least 1 footballer in a year to renew his big bad vodoo so he can keep score. Suarez can single handedly create chance, score and even assist. unlike torres, he is goal scoring machine but he seldom do what suarez did.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jul 3 2014, 04:38 PM)
Yup we will save a few more millions, and then we go embark on a 3 season journey to find another potent goal scorer/creator like Suarez, wasting tens of millions in the process. Way to go.
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just like suarez who is happy here afew month ago.. should try to seal him if we can..

tot his wage is not that high in dortmund too
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Liverpool complete Emre Can transfer


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No Suarez next season, we can either be the next Spurs or the next Atletico. Fingers' crossed they make the right decisions over there.
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Once Suarez moves to Barca, just wait that FIFA will reduce his suspension.

Seems quite fishy isn't it that he is banned from everything else aside transfer and Barca's transfer ban is suspended for time being.

Is it just me or the timing seems to be good to be true.
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Yup we will save a few more millions, and then we go embark on a 3 season journey to find another potent goal scorer/creator like Suarez, wasting tens of millions in the process. Way to go.
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But nothing can be done when the release clause is met.

QUOTE(koolspyda @ Jul 3 2014, 05:56 PM)
alonso & marcherano will never be replaced.
as its been drummed, the liverpool will never need to rely too much on individuals. (ahem) a system is suppose to ensure that  smile.gif
whats wrong with sturidge & sanchez combo?  tongue.gif
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Emre Can will give us that..im sure we'll let in less goal next season
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No Suarez next season, we can either be the next Spurs or the next Atletico. Fingers' crossed they make the right decisions over there.
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More likely to be more Spurs than Atletico. Sounds pessimistic but my reasoning is this, Falcao is a finisher and Suarez is not. Sell Sturridge the finisher and we will survive, can't say the same about Suarez unless we can find a replacement just as good only that there isn't any.
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why we are stupid not to include player + cash... seem thing never change

xabi sell come aquilani
torres sell come carrol
masch sell come poulsen
carrol loan come nothing

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The silence from Anfield is deafening...which more or less indicate where Suarez will be heading, even hard core believer will find it hard that he will stay...unless of cos, the player himself declare he will be staying put. It painful, but in reality, not many players can withstand the allure or lure of Barca or RM, we'd be lucky if we don't lose out to the PSG's and Monaco's of French Lique in the next couple of years...In this situation, if I am BR, I would immediately make the next move, targeting - Falcao, James Rodriguez, Sanchez (if he change his mind), the Griezman or Benzema....but the sad fact is, all these players doesn't score as much as Suarez did....but to soften the blow, we need to sign BIG. We blundered big time with Carroll....but I am pretty sure that BR have his eyes set on a marquee signing, and it wouldn't be that hard to get FSG to sanction it...If rumors is to believe, than Balotelli might be the next best option, a proven goalscorer with talent and natural gift, although I personally felt he is not a good 'fit' in our system, for one, he don't track back and 2nd, he don't harass the defense much like our cannibalistic Uruguayan....but if, BR can strain a leash on Balotelli and nurture, he could be an exciting prospect, and a potential goal scoring machine - plus he is young at 23....
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This is an extract of life stories of Luis Suarez.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/s...ol-book-extract

After reading it I can understand him more as a person and his struggle during early days. How importance is the role of Sofia in his life. I wouldn't be surprise if he would do everything for her.

And this is the match that kick start his success as professional fottballer

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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Jul 4 2014, 12:00 AM)
why we are stupid not to include player + cash... seem thing never change

xabi sell come aquilani
torres sell come carrol
masch sell come poulsen
carrol loan come nothing
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Maybe these players are just not interested in joining us. Look the reality is that coming to Liverpool is a step down. We are on the rise but no where near a finished product, where as Barca are on the verge of having 3 of the world's best strikers leading their line - if you are a footballer, you want to stay there and be playing with the very best.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jul 3 2014, 11:12 PM)

More likely to be more Spurs than Atletico. Sounds pessimistic but my reasoning is this, Falcao is a finisher and Suarez is not. Sell Sturridge the finisher and we will survive, can't say the same about Suarez unless we can find a replacement just as good only that there isn't any.
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This is so true, no offend to Sturridge, but if we lost him, we might not suffer much damage, he is good but not great, he's good in poaching goal, that's it.
As for Suarez, he is one of a kind, he is phenomenal, he create something out of nothing, he can score from anywhere, he can nutmeg, he can score free kicks. There is more of it, I am lazy to state everything here. He literally lift the whole team last season.

Losing Suarez now is going to be the most stupid move ever, yes the money will be good, but how to find a replacement that half good as Suarez? There is no guarantee that player we buy will be good in the first season, and still do they able to adapt to the EPL game style?

I am really hoping that we can still keep Suarez, I don't mind missing out Sanchez & Shaqiri. Suarez is all we need.
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i hope liverpool keep suarez
yea he is really idiot but his skill
mang..even rooney cant challenge him

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Heard suarez deal done. 90 million euros.

Non official source so not confirmed
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QUOTE(alidan @ Jul 3 2014, 11:03 PM)
Once Suarez moves to Barca, just wait that FIFA will reduce his suspension.

Seems quite fishy isn't it that he is banned from everything else aside transfer and Barca's transfer ban is suspended for time being.

Is it just me or the timing seems to be good to be true.
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the best update to date, days after the apology was given out, suddenly FIFA president praises Suarez for apologizing. reduced ban is still within reach here whistling.gif
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I actually dont want Sanchez...

Why would anyone want a person who said "I prefer Arsenal" to be in our club?
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jul 4 2014, 08:20 AM)
the best update to date, days after the apology was given out, suddenly FIFA president praises Suarez for apologizing. reduced ban is still within reach here whistling.gif
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If you look at Soccernet's article, officially FIFA allow Suarez to join Barcelona.
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If you look at Soccernet's article, officially FIFA allow Suarez to join Barcelona.
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well somehow FIFA does not acknowledge a player's club transfer as "football activity" doh.gif
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well somehow FIFA does not acknowledge a player's club transfer as "football activity" doh.gif
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Fifa is full of sh*t.. now they allow Suarez to train, allow him to join Barcelona etc etc.. smell full of fish
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jul 4 2014, 09:35 AM)
Fifa is full of sh*t.. now they allow Suarez to train, allow him to join Barcelona etc etc.. smell full of fish
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 4 2014, 12:46 AM)
Maybe these players are just not interested in joining us. Look the reality is that coming to Liverpool is a step down. We are on the rise but no where near a finished product, where as Barca are on the verge of having 3 of the world's best strikers leading their line - if you are a footballer, you want to stay there and be playing with the very best.
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If Suarez gon..lets not panic buy again!
let season start and then by January buy what we lack!
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some people here really underrate sturride.. he's easily better than torres when in liverpool.. but coz suarez is world class, he overshadow him in every aspect
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compare to leaving of torres,

I feel nth much on suarez leaving this time biggrin.gif

coz deep down in my heart I know sooner or later he will leave.

I thought everyone know this? unsure.gif


suarez leaving is not end of the liverpool yo

pls everyone dun be so perssimistic icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(keong24 @ Jul 4 2014, 10:17 AM)
compare to leaving of torres,

I feel nth much on suarez leaving this time  biggrin.gif

coz deep down in my heart I know sooner or later he will leave.

I thought everyone know this?  unsure.gif
suarez leaving is not end of the liverpool yo

pls everyone dun be so perssimistic  icon_rolleyes.gif
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support the club, not the player. a nice read published a few days back when Suarez saga reignites flex.gif

http://anfieldindex.com/9117/liverpool-fc-...lub-player.html
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Jul 4 2014, 10:01 AM)
some people here really underrate sturride.. he's easily better than torres when in liverpool.. but coz suarez is world class, he overshadow him in every aspect
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Sturidge is how old already? I think he still young and have more room to improve if compared to peaked Suarez.
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Well, even Blatter praised Suarez for his apologies....

I truly beleive if the deal does go thru (reported 70m Euros), his ban might be reduced or he's allowed to train but not play for 4 months.

Something just not right.
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Nothing compared to Owen and Torres leaving!

but thanks Suarez for a wonderful and unforgettable season!
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Nothing compared to Owen and Torres leaving!

but thanks Suarez for a wonderful and unforgettable season!
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even his form was going down that time
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QUOTE(jialitrading @ Jul 4 2014, 10:26 AM)
Since last 2 years suarez already planned to move...and im not surprised with this
even if we keep him this season, same shit will happen again during jan or next season
no point keeping him here anymore...

lets move on.. find a good replacement..
and if he really move.. i want him to fail as torres..this is the anfield curse

actually we made him good..same to torres..
they way we play or the way gerrard passes the ball has influenced his performance

i just want to see how he perform in barca and also keen..when he bite someone in La Liga.. how barca will handle...
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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jul 4 2014, 10:28 AM)
Sturidge is how old already? I think he still young and have more room to improve if compared to peaked Suarez.
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IINM they are only 2 years apart
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 4 2014, 10:29 AM)
Well, even Blatter praised Suarez for his apologies....

I truly beleive if the deal does go thru (reported 70m Euros), his ban might be reduced or he's allowed to train but not play for 4 months.

Something just not right.
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90m euros - 70m pound biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wadefak @ Jul 4 2014, 10:41 AM)
really hope that Barca can't contain his antics, then he'll surely get a maximum 2 years tongue.gif
IINM they are only 2 years apart
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remember struj was a 20 plus goals scored with injuries and suarez as main man( of coz 10 assists might help struj)
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Suarez has been itching for a move basically ever since he came here. I think he's using LFC as a platform to go Barca/RM and there's no better place to attract them than playing in the BPL. His wife lives in Spain, owns a house there so the signs are pretty clear.

He's our best player, over shadowing EVERYONE last season but then again we need to move on. If he goes, then thank you for the fantastic season. Will never forget his wonder goals and his crying at the end of the Palace match. He played his heart out.

Syuarez will have a special place in LFC. Let's see how it pans out. If he goes, we'll have lots of money to invest. If he stays, we'll have goals to enjoy.
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 4 2014, 10:47 AM)
Suarez has been itching for a move basically ever since he came here. I think he's using LFC as a platform to go Barca/RM and there's no better place to attract them than playing in the BPL. His wife lives in Spain, owns a house there so the signs are pretty clear.

He's our best player, over shadowing EVERYONE last season but then again we need to move on. If he goes, then thank you for the fantastic season. Will never forget his wonder goals and his crying at the end of the Palace match. He played his heart out.

Syuarez will have a special place in LFC. Let's see how it pans out. If he goes, we'll have lots of money to invest. If he stays, we'll have goals to enjoy.
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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 4 2014, 10:29 AM)
Well, even Blatter praised Suarez for his apologies....

I truly beleive if the deal does go thru (reported 70m Euros), his ban might be reduced or he's allowed to train but not play for 4 months.

Something just not right.
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Once he joins Barca, poof ban reduced. I'll be damned if that doesn't happen. He's already allowed to train. What's next?
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jul 4 2014, 01:25 AM)
This is so true, no offend to Sturridge, but if we lost him, we might not suffer much damage, he is good but not great, he's good in poaching goal, that's it.
As for Suarez, he is one of a kind, he is phenomenal, he create something out of nothing, he can score from anywhere, he can nutmeg, he can score free kicks. There is more of it, I am lazy to state everything here. He literally lift the whole team last season.

Losing Suarez now is going to be the most stupid move ever, yes the money will be good, but how to find a replacement that half good as Suarez? There is no guarantee that player we buy will be good in the first season, and still do they able to adapt to the EPL game style?

I am really hoping that we can still keep Suarez, I don't mind missing out Sanchez & Shaqiri. Suarez is all we need.
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I share your disappointment in losing Suarez but let's not smack down other players just to big up one player. As Yelong mentioned, Suarez has 3 years over Sturridge which is a massive advantage in itself as he's had the time to grow as a player and person. I really do feel Sturridge is just as important to us if not more. Reason being, he has contributed a whole lot more than Suarez ever did when they first arrived.

Suarez stats:
First season: 13 appearances, 4 goals.
Second season: 39 appearances, 17 goals.

Sturridge
First season: 16 appearances, 11 goals.
Second season: 33 appearances, 24 goals.

It wasn't until the 3rd and 4th season that Suarez fully became the beast that he is today. Prior to that, his finishing was erratic and his playmaking ability was decent at best. We could argue that Suarez didn't have the team that he's had last season but that would mean any player we get to replace him will also have that same advantage. Even tho they are different type of players, Sturridge too has the potential to grow as a player and i believe he can reach the next level with the right training and mindset. For me, Sturridge was the difference between us and other top english teams. While most clubs had a Suarez, they didn't have a Sturridge who could score nearly just as many goals as Suarez did. And his assists was not bad as well, in fact it was better than most players in the division.

I am gutted that we parting ways with Suarez but the team is in good shape and in good hands of a great manager, and that for me is really comforting and i have faith that the likes of Sturridge, Gerrard, Sterling, Coutinho, Hendo, Lallana, Emre Can etc will step up this season. Unless of course you truly believe that we were a one man team last season.
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Agree tht sturridge is important for us too and has alot more to offer for his age. The only thing I don't quite like about him is tht he always put himself before his team. Hopefully we can see a more matured sturridge in the new season ahead

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QUOTE(Patt_Hup @ Jul 4 2014, 12:45 PM)
Agree tht sturridge is important for us too and has alot more to offer for his age. The only thing I don't quite like about him is tht he always put himself before his team. Hopefully we can see a more matured sturridge in the new season ahead
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hes a forward, thought to be self-centered from start.
but always? he had 8 assists last season.
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Don't misunderstand me, I didn't mean that Sturridge is not important to the team. I am just giving example that if we lose Sturridge, we will not suffer big damage to the overall team. But if we lose Suarez, I can see that we will becoming Spurs 2.0. Well I could be wrong, and I hope that I am wrong, only times will tell.
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QUOTE(Patt_Hup @ Jul 4 2014, 12:45 PM)
Agree tht sturridge is important for us too and has alot more to offer for his age. The only thing I don't quite like about him is tht he always put himself before his team. Hopefully we can see a more matured sturridge in the new season ahead
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coz he has to score to gain confident... just like baros, more he score more confident he's.. after injury, he lacks goal and confident and now he become history teacher already
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hes a forward, thought to be self-centered from start.
but always? he had 8 assists last season.
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Statistic not always tell everything on every match. I kinda agree with him, but he should include Suarez in it, both of them become self-centered, and their ego kicks in during the second half of the season, particularly on the last 5 matches or so.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jul 4 2014, 12:52 PM)
Statistic not always tell everything on every match. I kinda agree with him, but he should include Suarez in it, both of them become self-centered, and their ego kicks in during the second half of the season, particularly on the last 5 matches or so.
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stats is still stats.
and on the pitch they still score goals.
not like we were short of goals anyway last season...so no problem there.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jul 4 2014, 12:50 PM)
Don't misunderstand me, I didn't mean that Sturridge is not important to the team. I am just giving example that if we lose Sturridge, we will not suffer big damage to the overall team. But if we lose Suarez, I can see that we will becoming Spurs 2.0. Well I could be wrong, and I hope that I am wrong, only times will tell.
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i thought we had better win ratio without suarez...the team still rallies together anyway.
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Well, Sturridge or Suarez doesn't matter. No good service, no goals.
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Suarez leaving was expected, yes. We will have lots of money to reinvest, yes. But I can't really think of anyone out there who can or at least have the potential to give us what Suarez gives us. When Torres left we managed to get Suarez in to pick us up but who is next?
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hes a forward, thought to be self-centered from start.
but always? he had 8 assists last season.
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The way i see his play througout last season yes. Agree he is a top player, but just thought that if he can can torn down his ego for abit, he can be more influencial in a match especially when we were trailing.
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actually what LFC needs, again as in the past few seasons, is not another top striker but more midfielders to share goal scoring duties...and not just have gerrard be the only double digit midfielder again.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jul 4 2014, 01:08 PM)
Suarez leaving was expected, yes. We will have lots of money to reinvest, yes. But I can't really think of anyone out there who can or at least have the potential to give us what Suarez gives us. When Torres left we managed to get Suarez in to pick us up but who is next?
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As of now? None. Well like other optimistic people said, we can still score goals and win without Suarez, and stats did prove it. Stats said so, and only times will tell, lets see what will happen next season. I really hope that losing Suarez will not haunt us like how Spurs becoming after losing Bale.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 4 2014, 01:13 PM)
actually what LFC needs, again as in the past few seasons, is not another top striker but more midfielders to share goal scoring duties...and not just have gerrard be the only double digit midfielder again.
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So, ask that midfielder to take over gerrard penalty duties laugh.gif
Gerrard already old. We need younger gerrard. Hope lallana can be one.
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So, ask that midfielder to take over gerrard penalty duties laugh.gif
Gerrard already old. We need younger gerrard. Hope lallana can be one.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jul 4 2014, 12:50 PM)
Don't misunderstand me, I didn't mean that Sturridge is not important to the team. I am just giving example that if we lose Sturridge, we will not suffer big damage to the overall team. But if we lose Suarez, I can see that we will becoming Spurs 2.0. Well I could be wrong, and I hope that I am wrong, only times will tell.
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There's no doubt Saurez leaving will affect us in some ways but we have to believe that BR will be able to sort it out. I take solace in the fact that BR has been able to reinvent his team on the fly. He's been able to coach his team to adapt to various formations for various situations - this will be key for us this season. Suarez departure for me is a bit like losing Alonso - losing the brain of the team. But unlike Rafa's last season, BR is not as stubborn and FSG will allow him to reinvest the funds from selling Suarez.

I know some feel we may falter like Spurs and i can understand the fear. It's a big shoe to fill but again, i feel we are in much better shape than Spurs were when Bale left them. They did not have a Sturridge or a rising star like Sterling, or a choo choo train Hendo, or a magician in Coutinho. They had to buy all these players with Bale's money and most of them couldn't gel in time. I don't think we will suffer the same fate seeing the core of the team will remain largely intact. The risks are there but i think it's manageable. And we yet to see who we are replacing Suarez with.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 4 2014, 01:18 PM)
There's no doubt Saurez leaving will affect us in some ways but we have to believe that BR will be able to sort it out. I take solace in the fact that BR has been able to reinvent his team on the fly. He's been able to coach his team to adapt to various formations for various situations - this will be key for us this season. Suarez departure for me is a bit like losing Alonso - losing the brain of the team. But unlike Rafa's last season, BR is not as stubborn and FSG will allow him to reinvest the funds from selling Suarez.

I know some feel we may falter like Spurs and i can understand the fear. It's a big shoe to fill but again, i feel we are in much better shape than Spurs were when Bale left them. They did not have a Sturridge or a rising star like Sterling, or a choo choo train Hendo, or a magician in Coutinho. They had to buy all these players with Bale's money and most of them couldn't gel in time. I don't think we will suffer the same fate seeing the core of the team will remain largely intact. The risks are there but i think it's manageable. And we yet to see who we are replacing Suarez with.
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Yea, finger crossed! As for replacing Suarez, nah I don't think anyone capable of replacing him. We can only find someone to fill in that spot.
Agree that BR is good, and I hope that Borini & Lambert could step up and not just relying on Sturridge alone.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jul 4 2014, 01:08 PM)
Suarez leaving was expected, yes. We will have lots of money to reinvest, yes. But I can't really think of anyone out there who can or at least have the potential to give us what Suarez gives us. When Torres left we managed to get Suarez in to pick us up but who is next?
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Did you think Suarez was going to be irreplaceable the very day he signed for us ? I remember that time very well, the opinions on him were quite polarized. No one knew he was going to be the genius no 7 but people questioned his behavior and habits. It was the same with Torres - even tho his name was known to us all, he was never really prolific for A. Madrid and some were skeptical about him. Right now it will be a bit mad to expect someone to come in and be Suarez's equal. There might be someone out there, we don't know until we've given him a chance. But i think the reality is that unless we buy Messi or Ronaldo, we simply are not going to be able to replace him right away.

We just have to suck it up and go through the cycle all over again. Look for young and raw talents just like we did with Suarez and nurture him. Personally, i feel we already have that player and that player is Sterling. But others may disagree.
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talking bout stats see below

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I m looking at key passes as this is where player creating something for the team to score. Suarez were much better than Sturridge.

In summary

Sturridge excellent in converting chances

Suarez creating more opportunity for the team mates.

Can Lallana do the job? Apparently not as he seems to be the poorest among the player we have currently. See the link below.

https://www.bsports.com/statsinsights/footb...ivity-liverpool

So who can? Can E.Can do the job? Doest seems so as he is more like a defensive midfielder but he is not shy of going forward which might cause the defensive problem.

http://eplindex.com/54648/emre-can-stats-c...ucas-leiva.html


In the end we will still be counting on Gerrard/Coutinho/Lambert(more assist then Lallana) if he does start.






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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 4 2014, 12:07 PM)
I am gutted that we parting ways with Suarez but the team is in good shape and in good hands of a great manager, and that for me is really comforting and i have faith that the likes of Sturridge, Gerrard, Sterling, Coutinho, Hendo, Lallana, Emre Can etc will step up this season. Unless of course you truly believe that we were a one man team last season.
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in fact, v truly a one man team now.

but that one man is BR.

those who think we will be spurs 2.0 is claiming that all the hard work last season is done by suarez alone,

just like bale for spurs 1.0


this is unfair to BR n other players,

as i can confirm suarez wont be the beast he is now,

without the hardwork from all the others last 2 season,

and most importantly, BR.


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QUOTE(melt @ Jul 4 2014, 01:45 PM)
talking bout stats see below

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I m looking at key passes as this is where player creating something for the team to score. Suarez were much better than Sturridge.

In summary

Sturridge excellent in converting chances

Suarez creating more opportunity for the team mates.

Can Lallana do the job? Apparently not as he seems to be the poorest among the player we have currently. See the link below.

https://www.bsports.com/statsinsights/footb...ivity-liverpool

So who can? Can E.Can do the job? Doest seems so as he is more like a defensive midfielder but he is not shy of going forward which might cause the defensive problem.

http://eplindex.com/54648/emre-can-stats-c...ucas-leiva.html
In the end we will still be counting on Gerrard/Coutinho/Lambert(more assist then Lallana) if he does start.
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Sturridge was our no 9 so there's no surprises there with his lack of key passes. Emre Can i reckon is still raw but a promising long term project - plays like Hendo so perhaps a cover for him as well as Gerrard. Lallana i feel was brought in to bolster the left side of our midfield which was clearly our weak spot last season. His creative stats are not impressive but that link didn't include his dribbling stat which was pretty high - as high as Coutinho's at 1.8. He also scored 9 goals last season. Overall i think he's a solid all round footballer - he can use both feet so that makes him tactically versatile and his decent dribbling stat means he should be able to carry the ball from midfield which has been a problem for us last season as neither Lucas nor Allen were able to do that. If he can provide 9 goals from midfield, then we may have a winner here.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jul 4 2014, 01:27 PM)
Yea, finger crossed! As for replacing Suarez, nah I don't think anyone capable of replacing him. We can only find someone to fill in that spot.
Agree that BR is good, and I hope that Borini & Lambert could step up and not just relying on Sturridge alone.
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i actually would love to see goals start to flow in from midfielders. we currently have Stevie, Hendo, Lalla, Emre, Couts, Lucas, Allen. all 7 are strong in the central role!

the only real defensive players are Hendo (but he can attack as well) and Lucas. hoping the Couts learned how to shoot this break. once he smoothens his finishing touch, surely we'll get loads from him flex.gif
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QUOTE(keong24 @ Jul 4 2014, 02:36 PM)
in fact, v truly a one man team now.

but that one man is BR.

those who think we will be spurs 2.0 is claiming that all the hard work last season is done by suarez alone,

just like bale for spurs 1.0
this is unfair to BR n other players,

as i can confirm suarez wont be the beast he is now,

without the hardwork from all the others last 2 season,

and most importantly, BR.
inb4 kena shoot by BR haters  cool2.gif
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I for one think Suarez was able to play more freely and perhaps even more calmly because the others step up and contributed. Players like Sterling and Sturridge were lethal outlets for Suarez. They ran the channels and took risks for him to provide all those assists. Sturridge in particular was great at opening up space for Suarez to run into and vice versa. Our success was the result of joint effort - Suarez benefited the most because we were no longer a one man team where defenders only needed to defend Suarez - they had to defend against Sterling, Sturridge, Coutinho and occasionally Hendo.
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lets see..Suarez attitude in Barca...when he doesn't receive proper passes and service will he dare to f*** Messi ?

hehehe...
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Sturridge was our no 9 so there's no surprises there with his lack of key passes. Emre Can i reckon is still raw but a promising long term project - plays like Hendo so perhaps a cover for him as well as Gerrard. Lallana i feel was brought in to bolster the left side of our midfield which was clearly our weak spot last season. His creative stats are not impressive but that link didn't include his dribbling stat which was pretty high - as high as Coutinho's at 1.8. He also scored 9 goals last season. Overall i think he's a solid all round footballer - he can use both feet so that makes him tactically versatile and his decent dribbling stat means he should be able to carry the ball from midfield which has been a problem for us last season as neither Lucas nor Allen were able to do that. If he can provide 9 goals from midfield, then we may have a winner here.
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Lallana was well known as a tireless player. If I not wrong he is the second player who covered the field just slightly behind Hendo. He is definitely would help a great deal on the defensive side but is he the one to fill in the creativity side? I doubt so.

Who do you reckon that can fill in the creativity in the squad? Players wont be scoring if there were no one who can create key passes.

PS - Dejan Lovren does this guy worth 20million? rclxub.gif I just dont see how good he is.

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Lallana was well known as a tireless player. If I not wrong he is the second player who covered the field just slightly behind Hendo. He is definitely would help a great deal on the defensive side but is he the one to fill in the creativity side? I doubt so.

Who do you reckon that can fill in the creativity in the squad? Players wont be scoring if there were no one who can create key passes.
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i think suarez is more like a big fish in a small pond, once he goes over to barca, he's likely a small fish in a big pond.
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QUOTE(melt @ Jul 4 2014, 03:21 PM)
Lallana was well known as a tireless player. If I not wrong he is the second player who covered the field just slightly behind Hendo. He is definitely would help a great deal on the defensive side but is he the one to fill in the creativity side? I doubt so.

Who do you reckon that can fill in the creativity in the squad? Players wont be scoring if there were no one who can create key passes.

PS - Dejan Lovren does this guy worth 20million?  rclxub.gif I just dont see how good he is.
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We played without any real standout left midfielder last season and still managed to score 100 plus goals. I would like to think we'd do much better if we had a solid left midfielder which we do this season. Now i'm only talking about the midfield which i think Lallana was brought in to improve on. We can't expect him to fill that Suarez role if he was brought in for other purpose. I suspect that we will bring in more players to replace Suarez. Sterling and Coutinho did well last season considering their age but i don't think BR will depend on them to fill in that creative void. We'd have to wait and see.

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when Torres leave us, i feel the same... we could not score goals like Torres do, and come Suarez, than i think, can he do 'Torres'??...

players come and go... one striker will shine above other striker at the same squad, just the numbers of goals determine he is good striker or not... (depends on the tactics too tongue.gif)
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Suarez will definitely out-shadowed Messi in Barcelona, and after 1 season, Messi getting depressed and his performance dropped like hell. Then we can get him here cheap! rclxm9.gif
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Suarez will definitely out-shadowed Messi in Barcelona, and after 1 season, Messi getting depressed and his performance dropped like hell. Then we can get him here cheap!  rclxm9.gif
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Seriously, im ok with Suarez leaving liverpool.

the last thing you want is keeping a wantaway striker.

reminds me of Anelka when he was with Arsenal.
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QUOTE(junky_man @ Jul 4 2014, 04:26 PM)
Seriously, im ok with Suarez leaving liverpool.

the last thing you want is keeping a wantaway striker.

reminds me of Anelka when he was with Arsenal.
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then how about a wantaway keeper who's currently in no man's land and willing to "fight for his spot"?

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QUOTE(junky_man @ Jul 4 2014, 04:26 PM)
Seriously, im ok with Suarez leaving liverpool.

the last thing you want is keeping a wantaway striker.

reminds me of Anelka when he was with Arsenal.
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Well that happen in the early of last season and what did he brought in the end?

31 goals

and not to mention Football Association Writers player of the year, Barclay's Premier League Player of the Season award , Golden boots award and etc

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Well that happen in the early of last season and what did he brought in the end?

31 goals

and not to mention Football Association Writers player of the year, Barclay's Premier League Player of the Season award , Golden boots award and etc
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so, u think this is the end of liverpool after he leave??
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Hunterlaar as replacement?

Lovren also coming
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/tra...aas-jan-3806799
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QUOTE(melt @ Jul 4 2014, 04:34 PM)
Well that happen in the early of last season and what did he brought in the end?

31 goals

and not to mention Football Association Writers player of the year, Barclay's Premier League Player of the Season award , Golden boots award and etc
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He had a good season no doubt, it will only be a bonus if he can replicate in the new season.

But when your heart is not there for the team you play, you just have to make sure the team got a good deal for that parting player.

My heart was crush when Owen left LFC. but lo and behold, Torres came but he left, now Suarez is repeating history again.

So no need to fret, there will be another striker to light up our hearts again. thumbup.gif


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not really. No one bigger than the club.

What I did was just explaining to him that we did kept a wantaway player and the result were shown.

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so, u think this is the end of liverpool after he leave??
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Don't you think you misunderstood him? Its not the end, but we might suffer big damage, and we might become Spurs 2.0. Yea, *might*, every Liverpool fans will not want that to happen.
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It's a difficult time but not the end of the world. Look at Drotmund - gutted every season yet they are still fighting. Look at A. Madrid - season after season, other clubs come and buy their world class strikers but they kept adapting and growing. We are similar too in that sense. Rush > Fowler > Owen > Torres > Suarez. We will adapt and change, and i'm confident another will come and takes Suarez's place. Good clubs always persevere and adapt.
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You think losing Suarez is bad, look at the Saints. Manager gone, coaches gone, scouts too most probably, their talismans gone, and now the likes of Lovren and Shneiderlein are threatening to go on strikes. Be grateful that you are not a Saints fan.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jul 4 2014, 04:40 PM)
Don't you think you misunderstood him? Its not the end, but we might suffer big damage, and we might become Spurs 2.0. Yea, *might*, every Liverpool fans will not want that to happen.
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Yes, it is a big loss for Liv that if Suarez leave, but there is nothing much the club can do, if the player wish to leave.
After all, at least Suarez did accomplish a mission for the club that Liv now back to CL.
Both party said thank you and move on.

Players come and go.
No player forever stay in one club, except few like Carra and Gerrard.

From Rush, Fowler, Owen, Heskey, Kuyt, Torres and now Suarez.

The most important is the club instill a good set up, management, system, good coach that enable the club stay at top level.

If after Suarez left and Liv finish 7th in the next year, then it just shows that the club has not improved as a team.

Look at MU under AF, personnel change from Cole, Keane, Beckham, Van Nistelrooy, Ronaldo, Rooney, then Van Persie, still able to win the league in between.

Spurs actually just drop 1 place from 5th to 6th and just 3 points less than previous season with Bale and without Bale, just a few transferred target may not as good as taught, which more about transfer fee issue or money well spent or not.


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How to pronounce Emre Can? Some reporter pronounce it Em-ray Chan and some pronounce it as Emree Kan
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I'm calling him Amri. But jokes aside i think its emreh chan or jan as in january.
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You think losing Suarez is bad, look at the Saints. Manager gone, coaches gone, scouts too most probably, their talismans gone, and now the likes of Lovren and Shneiderlein are threatening to go on strikes. Be grateful that you are not a Saints fan.
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You haven't mentioned the Scums.......mid table on transition....
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Yes, it is a big loss for Liv that if Suarez leave, but there is nothing much the club can do, if the player wish to leave.
After all, at least Suarez did accomplish a mission for the club that Liv now back to CL.
Both party said thank you and move on.

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Yea, after all 90m is good deal. I just felt sad that its kinda early for Suarez to leave us. I really hope that BR can use the fund smartly, and don do any panic buy.
Since we have massive fund now, I do hope BR will bring in quality rather than quality.
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“@SkySportsAmy: LFC have not gone above £18m for Dejan Lovren I'm told. Saints value him as their best player & won't accept less than £25m #LFC #saintsfc”

Is he worth it?
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Many scums think that they are going to charge forward again because LVG going to manage them.
Many scums think that since we lose Suarez, we are going to take their mid table position.

Talk about optimistic.
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“@SkySportsAmy: LFC have not gone above £18m for Dejan Lovren I'm told. Saints value him as their best player & won't accept less than £25m #LFC #saintsfc”

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Not worth that much for sure. For goodness sake, he's a defender laugh.gif Defenders are not supposed to cost that much!
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QUOTE(alidan @ Jul 4 2014, 05:16 PM)
“@SkySportsAmy: LFC have not gone above £18m for Dejan Lovren I'm told. Saints value him as their best player & won't accept less than £25m #LFC #saintsfc”

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best player???? where is Jay? Lallana? Lambert? LELELEL die me. dun be to big headed lar soton.
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Not worth that much for sure. For goodness sake, he's a defender  laugh.gif  Defenders are not supposed to cost that much!
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Ferdinand cost Man Utd 30million and what did he did? wink.gif

Dont get me wrong not saying Lovren worth that kind of money but some defender does worth it.
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QUOTE(melt @ Jul 4 2014, 05:22 PM)
Ferdinand cost Man Utd 30million and  what did he did?  wink.gif

Dont get me wrong not saying Lovren worth that kind of money but some defender does worth it.
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Can i get kompany in that kind of money? or added in another 10m? we got money liao right?
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best player???? where is Jay? Lallana? Lambert? LELELEL die me. dun be to big headed lar soton.
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all the name u mention already sold or still at hospital laugh.gif

so they are right, the best player available for sale.
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Can i get kompany in that kind of money? or added in another 10m? we got money liao right?
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all the name u mention already sold or still at hospital  laugh.gif

so they are right, the best player available for sale.
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who masuk ward?
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You have to ask Man City. They might not even deal with 100m since they are so rich  whistling.gif
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“@SkySportsAmy: LFC have not gone above £18m for Dejan Lovren I'm told. Saints value him as their best player & won't accept less than £25m #LFC #saintsfc”

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From what i've read, he was highly rated at one time and Barca came close to signing him but he had a bad season at Lyon - bad as in warming the bench kinda bad. Southampton then worked their arse and got him for 7mil or so. He became one of their best players last season. Is he worth 25mil ? No way - he was only worth 7mil just a year ago!
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who masuk ward?
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 4 2014, 05:27 PM)
From what i've read, he was highly rated at one time and Barca came close to  signing him but he had a bad season at Lyon - bad as in warming the bench kinda bad. Southampton then worked their arse and got him for 7mil or so. He became one of their best players last season. Is he worth 25mil ? No way - he was only worth 7mil just a year ago!
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he has handed TR anyway.. let's how it play out.
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Lambert, Lallana, now Lovren?

All with "L" and all from Saints......,


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Ferdinand cost Man Utd 30million and  what did he did?  wink.gif

Dont get me wrong not saying Lovren worth that kind of money but some defender does worth it.
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Well imo they overpaid for Ferdinand. tongue.gif Well yeah, some defenders maybe are worth that amount but it is the exception rather than the rule. In Lovren's case, I don't think LFC should pay more than 15M for him.
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he has handed TR anyway.. let's how it play out.
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Yeah admittedly i didn't really pay attention to their central defence. But if clubs like LFC, Barca and Saints that play good football are into him then he must be a decent ball playing defender.
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Lambert, Lallana, now Lovren?

All with "L" and all from Saints......,
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Now you mentioned it, I think BR has some kind of obsession towards alphabet, S & L to be exact.  laugh.gif
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Also linked to Lazar Markovic. I think we should just get London Donavon and be done with it biggrin.gif
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That's the ultimate L. Gotta work from bottom and work your way up biggrin.gif
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It's a difficult time but not the end of the world. Look at Drotmund - gutted every season yet they are still fighting. Look at A. Madrid - season after season, other clubs come and buy their world class strikers but they kept adapting and growing. We are similar too in that sense. Rush > Fowler > Owen > Torres > Suarez. We will adapt and change, and i'm confident another will come and takes Suarez's place. Good clubs always persevere and adapt.
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who?
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You forgot about Porto. Porto, Dortmund and A.Madrid are top feeder clubs. Arsenal too. laugh.gif
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Barcelona is not threatening Liverpool at gunpoint to sell Suarez. Why do we even bothered about their bid?
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Not exactly downhearted by Suarez's imminent departure, only worried that the void might be too huge to fill in one transfer window. With LVG's MU strengthening, Spurs looking to make a comeback with Poch and Arsenal apparently looking to spend big, we must consolidate our position in the top 4, a drop back into the mid table so soon will be disastrous.

I think we will miss the chances Suarez creates in the final third more than the goals he scores. Even more worrying is the fact that we have yet to make any defensive signings. (Emre Can is not a defensive specialist)

Could see us reverting to 4-3-3 but not sure how it will play out with Sturridge as the focal point. He played well mostly when he had Suarez to partner him in attack and this is evident in our not so impressive start to last season where we scraped unconvincing 1-0 wins and blips against Swansea and Soton until the Biter's return and Sterling's reemergence.

Based on the ongoing WC, I would say France is currently best at using the 4-3-3 system while Germany and Brazil are bad examples of it so far. France plays best when Benzema is leading the line as he drifts around the final third to create and make space for others much like Suarez. You can see their offence getting clogged up during the Nigeria game when Giroud led the line instead and Benzema pushed out wide. It wasn't until Giroud was replaced by Griezmann that they started to gain some momentum in the final third. Question here is if Sturridge can play more like a half 9 than a poacher? Can Coutinho and Hendo be as dynamic as Matuidi and Pogba where they can strike a balance between defensive and offensive contribution? Common point here is Cabaye and Gerrard both aren't defensive midfielders and they require help from the 2 midfielders ahead of them.
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Barcelona is not threatening Liverpool at gunpoint to sell Suarez. Why do we even bothered about their bid?
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Barcelona is not threatening Liverpool at gunpoint to sell Suarez. Why do we even bothered about their bid?
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I really thought he was gonna stay but the way we have stayed silent this whole time tells me this is something the club wants. There's almost a media blackout from our side - no comments from Ayre or Henry or even BR. All the well known Liverpool journos are not even giving out juicy inside info. Either the club is just fed up with him and want to get rid asap or its something they have been planning all along since December when Suarez extended his contract.
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so during january, br tried to get some defensive covers. what happened this summer ? i know its still relatively early days, but i for one would like the idea of getting signings done before or at least early of pre season so that they can gel with the new team and surroundings. so far, we're only heavily linked with lovren. what happened to other defenders ? too few of them that are actually world class and not playing for top teams or ? i dont see us repeating what we did last season, i.e. outscoring our opponents while leaking too many goals. costs us the title.

im not sure if there are too few suitable players out there, or the scouts havent found one yet. btw, what do ya'll think of the likes of reina, borini coming back? esp reina, good or bad for the team ? hes on high wages, one of the highest in the club, n if hes left on the bench, might nt seemed like a good idea for both the club and himself.

this out of topic : if suarez does leave for barca, and falcao joins madrid, it would be interesting to see if the likes to atletico madrid, sevilla, atletic bilbao is able to compete with that two juggernauts.
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Rumors from spanish media that fee has been agreed for Suarez to Barcelona for a pathetic 63m cash only. WTH!
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With Neymar injured and recovery time not yet known, means Barca may more eager on Suarez deal.
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63mil pounds =80 mil euros

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A bit frustrated with players that BR targetting so far. For what I heard, instead Moreno now he's trying to get Bertrand for cheaper deal. I mean seriously??And still not understand why LFC wanna put high price for Lovren. Above all we are challenging for UCL next season and yet I dont see any player that has capability or experienced to play Champions League. Not even Lallana, Flanagan and Johnson has UCL quality honestly speaking. I just wish Shaqiri can opt for LFC instead new contract as I think this type of player that the club need to give more variety to the team. With 100% guarantee Suarez gonna leave the club, this will leave more gap to player quality in the team and I rather spend the cash on 1 or 2 star players that are proven and really has experienced in UCL rather than 4 or 5 mediocre players or young talents.
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In break before the match I'll try to explain thinking on Suarez as it was told to me. It'll be series of tweets don't take out of context

Tony Evans ‏@TonyEvansTimes  15s
1) There was a clause last year, JWH stood tough and dared Suarez camp to call in lawyers. Determined no to let him go

Tony Evans @TonyEvansTimes  ·  13s
2) Money would not have been as much use last summer. Not in CL so have to spend it on non-CL players. Needed Suarez to get top four

Tony Evans @TonyEvansTimes  ·  now
3) New deal was built around cast-iron get-out clause. If it was triggered, then he was gone

Tony Evans @TonyEvansTimes  ·  4s
4) Negotiations had started before WC. Bite had little effect on anything. Feeling is, though, Suarez walking accident ready to happen

Tony Evans @TonyEvansTimes  ·  5s
5) Sale not such a blow now because money can be spent on CL-type players this summer. Good players want to come

Tony Evans @TonyEvansTimes  ·  8s
6) If they can get Sanchez, good. But it depends if he wants to come. He doesn't want to leave Barca. He's on holiday

Tony Evans @TonyEvansTimes  ·  11s
6) Suarez money won't be spent on main stand but on players. Main stand money ring-fenced in spring by FSG



Apparently he tweeted this prior the Brazil game last night.
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QUOTE(mr_nobigdeal @ Jul 5 2014, 11:22 AM)
A bit frustrated with players that BR targetting so far. For what I heard, instead Moreno now he's trying to get Bertrand for cheaper deal. I mean seriously??And still not understand why LFC wanna put high price for Lovren. Above all we are challenging for UCL next season and yet I dont see any player that has capability or experienced to play Champions League. Not even Lallana, Flanagan and Johnson has UCL quality honestly speaking. I just wish Shaqiri can opt for LFC instead new contract as I think this type of player that the club need to give more variety to the team. With 100% guarantee Suarez gonna leave the club, this will leave more gap to player quality in the team and I rather spend the cash on 1 or 2 star players that are proven and really has experienced in UCL rather than 4 or 5 mediocre players or young talents.
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+1. Just look at scum's targets this summer for their rebuilding. Arturo Vidal, Nigel de Jong, Herrera. All continental big names.

Here we are targeting "young upcoming talents" on the pretext of being prudent; and yet we splashed so much money in the already inflated British market like Lambert and Lallana. IIori, Borini, Luis Alberto, Assaidi, Aspas all failed to make an impact in Liverpool so far.

We were lucky we have Suarez to fill in the scoring boots of Torres, all these rhetorics" No Player is Bigger than the club"; it's easy to shout but if anyone of you remember all the pain and money we wasted before we found Torres, u will realize it's not easy to find a good striker in the market.

It's very convenient to say Suarez disgraced Liverpool with his biting antics, blame it on media pressure, the club is constantly harangued by Real and Barca agents, but the club as a whole needs to look at the mirror themselves for their failure to retain key player's in the last decade. Why good players feel very inclined to leave the club for greater shot on glory?

McManaman, Owen, Alonso, Mascherano, Torres, and now Suarez. Who's next? Raheem Sterling?


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what i heard its diff, liverpool said they will only sell at release clause price. Barca said they will meet it and it was reported 63mil pound + sanchez
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Can't brain BR's targets so far -.-
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We have spent £38.8m on Lambert, Can and Lallana.

What's our transfer kit this season?
60m?
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A bit frustrated with players that BR targetting so far. For what I heard, instead Moreno now he's trying to get Bertrand for cheaper deal. I mean seriously??And still not understand why LFC wanna put high price for Lovren. Above all we are challenging for UCL next season and yet I dont see any player that has capability or experienced to play Champions League. Not even Lallana, Flanagan and Johnson has UCL quality honestly speaking. I just wish Shaqiri can opt for LFC instead new contract as I think this type of player that the club need to give more variety to the team. With 100% guarantee Suarez gonna leave the club, this will leave more gap to player quality in the team and I rather spend the cash on 1 or 2 star players that are proven and really has experienced in UCL rather than 4 or 5 mediocre players or young talents.
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how many CL-quality players can you buy honestly, anyone that played for CL games those main players will cost a bomb. Only few you could find on the cheap, moreover player wages are the problem. Liverpool cant afford to pay 200k a week player cept for Suarez..
Some say "woah Toni Kroos cost only 15-20mil, why not get him" but the wage is the stumble block. Reported 200k a week.. who dare to pay that money honestly. Moreno its unproven with that kind of money, 18mil pounds that alot of money.

Wheres Bale came from? Ronaldo? Messi? all from youth, just my 2 cents biggrin.gif

Just believe in BR just like you did last season smile.gif

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jul 5 2014, 12:39 PM)
how many CL-quality players can you buy honestly, anyone that played for CL games those main players will cost a bomb. Only few you could find on the cheap, moreover player wages are the problem. Liverpool cant afford to pay 200k a week player cept for Suarez..
Some say "woah Toni Kroos cost only 15-20mil, why not get him" but the wage is the stumble block. Reported 200k a week.. who dare to pay that money honestly. Moreno its unproven with that kind of money, 18mil pounds that alot of money.

Wheres Bale came from? Ronaldo? Messi? all from youth, just my 2 cents biggrin.gif

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How many youth players play like Bale, C.Ronaldo and Messi?
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How many youth players play like Bale, C.Ronaldo and Messi?
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We already made one Sterling smile.gif, how many regular quality can you buy? with 60mil transfer kitty

Everton has Barkley, MU has Cleverly! tongue.gif, City none, Arsenal full squad etc etc tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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sanchez wont be coming thats for sure, arsenal would be his likely choice..
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jul 5 2014, 12:45 PM)
We already made one Sterling smile.gif, how many regular quality can you buy? with 60mil transfer kitty
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If only we manage to control our urges on buying Brits, 60mil is good enough to buy the entire Costa Rican team.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jul 5 2014, 12:01 PM)
+1. Just look at scum's targets this summer for their rebuilding. Arturo Vidal, Nigel de Jong, Herrera. All continental big names.

Here we are targeting "young upcoming talents" on the pretext of being prudent; and yet we splashed so much money in the already inflated British market like Lambert and Lallana. IIori, Borini, Luis Alberto, Assaidi, Aspas all failed to make an impact in Liverpool so far.

We were lucky we have Suarez to fill in the scoring boots of Torres, all these rhetorics" No Player is Bigger than the club"; it's easy to shout but if anyone of you remember all the pain and money we wasted before we found Torres, u will realize it's not easy to find a good striker in the market.

It's very convenient to say Suarez disgraced Liverpool with his biting antics, blame it on media pressure, the club is constantly harangued by Real and Barca agents, but the club as a whole needs to look at the mirror themselves for their failure to retain key player's in the last decade. Why good players feel very inclined to leave the club for greater shot on glory?

McManaman, Owen, Alonso, Mascherano, Torres, and now Suarez. Who's next? Raheem Sterling?
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Weird that with all the non-productive signings, we still had one of the best seasons finishing 2nd which was way above the top 4 target.

So what if teams sign continental names like Ozil? Meh
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Weird that with all the non-productive signings, we still had one of the best seasons finishing 2nd which was way above the top 4 target.

So what if teams sign continental names like Ozil? Meh
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that's because liverpool didnt play in CL plus Suarez was such in top form. Wait this season no Suarez with CL. Dont be too cocky bro
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jul 5 2014, 12:45 PM)
We already made one Sterling smile.gif, how many regular quality can you buy? with 60mil transfer kitty
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Again, how many of our youth players play like Sterling?
The point is, we can't bank on youth players.

The similarity of Bale, C.Ronald and Messi is, they were youth once. laugh.gif

Sometimes I just think we paid crazy price on British player.
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/07/02/...-versus-what-t/
(Yes, I know Rakitic won't come to our club. But look at the bargain Barcelona had...)
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We complain when we miss out on players from trying to haggle too much, but then also complain when we cut the negotiation short and pay.

For what's it worth, i reckon we overpaid for Lallana as i don't think he's worth 25mil. But if BR and FSG felt he's worth that much then who am i to question them ? We have to wait and see if his performance justify the price we paid for. I personally thinks he's a good player and has the quality to improve the left side of our midfield.

I still think we will sign more players but i believe those signings depend on the sale of Suarez. I would be upset if we dont find replacements but logic dictates that we will reinvest the money gained from selling Suarez.
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I know Reus has said he intends to stay at BVB this summer but we should try triggering the release clause of 35m euros/30m pounds and see what he has to say. Even if we don't get him we should definitely prepare to get back in for him the following summer. Too good a player to not even have a go at for that price even if unrealistic.
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If only we manage to control our urges on buying Brits, 60mil is good enough to buy the entire Costa Rican team.
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Yea but has anyone doubted Adam Lallana quality tho? last year everyone was like LALAMAN should join in! you got your man now..

Liverpool would have been better squad if not using all the money on Carrol + Downing + Charlie Adam..

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Take it with a grain of salt.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...in-9586011.html
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jul 5 2014, 01:00 PM)
I know Reus has said he intends to stay at BVB this summer but we should try triggering the release clause of 35m euros/30m pounds and see what he has to say. Even if we don't get him we should definitely prepare to get back in for him the following summer. Too good a player to not even have a go at for that price even if unrealistic.
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jul 5 2014, 01:02 PM)
Yea but has anyone doubted Adam Lallana quality tho? last year everyone was like LALAMAN should join in! you got your man now..

Liverpool would have been better squad if not using all the money on Carrol + Downing + Charlie Adam..
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QUOTE(marlick25 @ Jul 5 2014, 12:56 PM)
that's because liverpool didnt play in CL plus Suarez was such in top form. Wait this season no Suarez with CL. Dont be too cocky bro
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Thank you, Marlick. Took the words right from my mouth. Just to add on (so that fanboys will not go into RAGE mode) iIt will be unfair to ignore the contributions from other players like Sturridge, Sterling, Henderson and Skrtel n Gerrard.

I'll phrase it this way, Suarez' form galvanized the entire team, no denying this. We were like scraping 1-0 wins wih the Jeckyll and Hyde performance during his suspension..remember?

A bit worried to see how we will cope without our Talismanic striker and the hectic schedule that CL brings in, getting 2nd is a great achievement indeed.....

But to maintain the form and continuity next season and to build from that success, to me, that's when the REAL TEST begins for BR.


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Yes, the bold part, it was sial gila of all sial gila.
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Yea i mean is so much better now, seeing BR at least getting some diff style players in. Player that could dribble + create chances

It is a risk some players dont come out what we were hoping for, but thats that..

Chelsea bought 50mil Torres but not the same level as used to be in Liverpool.. Tottenham bought Lamela, Soldado, problems as well.. M.U got Moyes..

Look at the brighter side, we have handful of young quality squad. It takes couple of season that what few years back we said to rebuild.. this is one of the season
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jul 5 2014, 01:02 PM)
Yea but has anyone doubted Adam Lallana quality tho? last year everyone was like LALAMAN should join in! you got your man now..

Liverpool would have been better squad if not using all the money on Carrol + Downing + Charlie Adam..
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Not me. I'm not a huge proponent of buying Brit at astronomical prices, no matter how good he is. Home grown / Brit players should be groomed from academy or transferred/poached at young age IMHO.

Even so, the price we are paying for Brit teenagers is out of the world excessive nowadays.


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Whether suarez bit on purpose or in the heat of the moment,whether his antics has disgraced the club,or whether is this how he should treat the club that stuck by him isn't important.

What needs looking at is who will replace suarez 30 goals,assists and skills?Even if a suitable target is identified won't clubs try to do what newcastle did when they know there is 80million?

For all of rodgers good work his transfers are not convincing at all.Alberto loaned out illori loaned out,aspas flop,kolo toure looks crap after a bright start.

I hope lallana does well but his profile is very similar to aspas.

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price expensive but worth no problem... spurs paying 30m for lamela and where is he now
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Reported fee is 75m euros or 60m pounds, not the expected 80m pounds. Guess the release clause is in euros not pounds.

What do you guys think of Balotelli as a potential signing? Personally don't mind him as long as he can limit himself to max of 1 red card per season.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jul 5 2014, 03:20 PM)
Reported fee is 75m euros or 60m pounds, not the expected 80m pounds. Guess the release clause is in euros not pounds.

What do you guys think of Balotelli as a potential signing? Personally don't mind him as long as he can limit himself to max of 1 red card per season.
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jul 5 2014, 01:02 PM)
Yea but has anyone doubted Adam Lallana quality tho? last year everyone was like LALAMAN should join in! you got your man now..

Liverpool would have been better squad if not using all the money on Carrol + Downing + Charlie Adam..
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Yea I did hoo haa back then hoping Lala could join us here, but come on not with that price, yes he is not one season wonder, yes he is on his peak, yes he is EPL proven. But still overpriced.

QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jul 5 2014, 01:10 PM)
Thank you, Marlick. Took the words right from my mouth. Just to add on (so that fanboys will not go into RAGE mode) iIt will be unfair to ignore the contributions from other players like Sturridge, Sterling, Henderson and Skrtel n Gerrard.

I'll phrase it this way, Suarez' form galvanized the entire team, no denying this.  We were like scraping 1-0 wins wih the Jeckyll and Hyde performance during his suspension..remember?

A bit worried to see how we will cope without our Talismanic striker and the hectic schedule that CL brings in, getting 2nd is a great achievement indeed.....

But to maintain the form and continuity next season and to build from that success, to me, that's when the REAL TEST begins for BR.
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This is what I always mean that yes, even when without Suarez we may have better win statistics, and yes statistics is the fact. But like what carloz mentioned there with what happen to all the 1-0 win.

Nobody is saying other players is shit, and they are not important, just that Suarez literally lifted the whole team. And yes no player is bigger than the club, but we had to give credits to Suarez for his passion for every matches he played. Without Suarez next season, and with so many matches to play, BR is going to have hell of a work there.

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jul 5 2014, 01:10 PM)
Thank you, Marlick. Took the words right from my mouth. Just to add on (so that fanboys will not go into RAGE mode) iIt will be unfair to ignore the contributions from other players like Sturridge, Sterling, Henderson and Skrtel n Gerrard.

I'll phrase it this way, Suarez' form galvanized the entire team, no denying this.  We were like scraping 1-0 wins wih the Jeckyll and Hyde performance during his suspension..remember?

A bit worried to see how we will cope without our Talismanic striker and the hectic schedule that CL brings in, getting 2nd is a great achievement indeed.....

But to maintain the form and continuity next season and to build from that success, to me, that's when the REAL TEST begins for BR.
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What I'm trying to say is, even if you sign an Ozil the assist wizard, he MAY still end up having less assists than Steven Gerrard, who many non-Reds claim to be over rated.

And finally, not all big names we think are good will perform well in the team we watch on every weekend on TV.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jul 5 2014, 03:20 PM)
Reported fee is 75m euros or 60m pounds, not the expected 80m pounds. Guess the release clause is in euros not pounds.

What do you guys think of Balotelli as a potential signing? Personally don't mind him as long as he can limit himself to max of 1 red card per season.
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No to Balotelli. Too much baggage, no enough output. And the problem with him is not that he's a genuine bad boy like Suarez, it's that he lacks maturity and this for me is far more disruptive than Suarez. We should be looking at the likes of Sanchez, Griezzman, Rodridguez, Draxler, Shaqiri etc. Doesn't have to be a winger or striker, as long as he's versatile and has the ability to provide assists and racks up key passes.
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Whether suarez bit on purpose or in the heat of the moment,whether his antics has disgraced the club,or whether is this how he should treat the club that stuck by him isn't important.

What needs looking at is who will replace suarez 30 goals,assists and skills?Even if a suitable target is identified won't clubs try to do what newcastle did when they know there is 80million?

For all of rodgers good work his transfers are not convincing at all.Alberto loaned out illori loaned out,aspas flop,kolo toure looks crap after a bright start.

I hope lallana does well but his profile is very similar to aspas.
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so sad suarez is leaving sad.gif
its the same feeling to me when alonso left sad.gif
now hoping sanchez to join , get shaqiri and we r done tongue.gif
have to strengthen the defense tho ..

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Yea I did hoo haa back then hoping Lala could join us here, but come on not with that price, yes he is not one season wonder, yes he is on his peak, yes he is EPL proven. But still overpriced.
This is what I always mean that yes, even when without Suarez we may have better win statistics, and yes statistics is the fact. But like what carloz mentioned there with what happen to all the 1-0 win.

Nobody is saying other players is shit, and they are not important, just that Suarez literally lifted the whole team. And yes no player is bigger than the club, but we had to give credits to Suarez for his passion for every matches he played. Without Suarez next season, and with so many matches to play, BR is going to have hell of a work there.
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No doubt about Suarez's contribution, and one of major factor that brought Liv up another step last season,
but this (the bolded part) is what manager has to do, aka transforms the club into top level, whereby the club is always able to change personnel while without major detrimental to the team performance.

This is how AF brought up MU that become dominance in league and won titles after titles, players come and go and still the manager able to replace the player and replicate the performance the result.
This is where Liv should aim for if want its glory day back become one of team that always can challenge on top.




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Been watching WC matches and Columbia's James Rodriguez has caught my eyes. Any comment on this guy?
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1. He has openly stated that he prefers La Liga over any other league and rumoured to prefer Real Madrid.

2. Monaco signed him for 45m euros. Following this WC, his price is at least doubled considering his age and potential.

So NO, he will never come and he might even cost more than Suarez.
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No to Balotelli. Too much baggage, no enough output. And the problem with him is not that he's a genuine bad boy like Suarez, it's that he lacks maturity and this for me is far more disruptive than Suarez. We should be looking at the likes of Sanchez, Griezzman, Rodridguez, Draxler, Shaqiri etc. Doesn't have to be a winger or striker, as long as he's versatile and has the ability to provide assists and racks up key passes.
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I think it's confirmed Suarez leaving.. Most of the SOS already confirm but now everything stalled cause Sanchez don't wanna come
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I think it's confirmed Suarez leaving.. Most of the SOS already confirm but now everything stalled cause Sanchez don't wanna come
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Rumours are, Liverpool is trying to attract him with higher wage. They're also saying we will only start buying after the Suarez saga is finished, which I find stupid because we are gonna get marked up like crazy from the clubs.
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Rumours are, Liverpool is trying to attract him with higher wage. They're also saying we will only start buying after the Suarez saga is finished, which I find stupid because we are gonna get marked up like crazy from the clubs.
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if he willing to come and we managed to get huntelaar then this would be great..
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Well, seems like Suarez is certain to leave. Barca trying to pay less by throwing in Sanchez or meet the release clause. However, Sanchez is hoping to join Gunners. Either way, Suarez will be a Barca player.

http://www.thisisanfield.com/2014/07/repor...release-clause/
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Agger has been one of our best defender but injuries wrecked his game and confidence. Used to be so elegant with the ball but last season was a bad one for him in my opinion.

Unless we have already secured good reliable replacement, selling him would be suicidal. Already now all transfer rumours is about attacking players. We need defensive covers too!
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Agger has been one of our best defender but injuries wrecked his game and confidence. Used to be so elegant with the ball but last season was a bad one for him in my opinion.

Unless we have already secured good reliable replacement, selling him would be suicidal. Already now all transfer rumours is about attacking players. We need defensive covers too!
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Rumor going around we selling Agger.
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He is not getting any younger. Plus, he is injury prone. As much as I want him to stay, we cant keep someone of that wage to warm the bench. Sakho is left footed. We probably need another 1-2 CB if Toure is to leave too (heard turkish side bid for him in news few days back)
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He is not getting any younger. Plus, he is injury prone. As much as I want him to stay, we  cant keep someone of that wage to warm the bench. Sakho is left footed. We probably need another 1-2 CB if Toure is to leave too (heard turkish side bid for him in news few days back)
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Ilori to go back out on loan? Reckon Wisdom and Kelly could both provide some decent backup to both central and right defence role.
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Seems like no more Liverpool player in WC after this... Mignolet the next to leave
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Ilori to go back out on loan? Reckon Wisdom and Kelly could both provide some decent backup to both central and right defence role.
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So if we do not sign any world class striker that mean we replace suarez with lambert. What a joke laugh.gif
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So if we do not sign any world class striker that mean we replace suarez with lambert. What a joke laugh.gif
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Nah i'm confident we will find a replacement or two. Maybe not the players we all crave for but the club will definitely reinvest - our survival this season depends on it.
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post Jul 6 2014, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 6 2014, 11:50 AM)
Nah i'm confident we will find a replacement or two. Maybe not the players we all crave for but the club will definitely reinvest - our survival this season depends on it.
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Like before?aspas and alberto?or mighty borini? Naah..im not confident with the way we deal here. We should get replacement before we sell.

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post Jul 6 2014, 12:05 PM

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Or the entire Costa Rican team.
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Jul 6 2014, 11:56 AM)
Like before?aspas and alberto?or mighty borini? Naah..im not confident with the way we deal here. We should get replacement before we sell.
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Aspas and Borini were the kind of players we had to sign due to the lack of CL. It's perhaps one of the reasons why we have dropped our interest on Konopylanka as we are in the market for better players. Its pretty obvious we are targeting Sanchez but I reckon he is leaning towards Arsenal or Juventus at this point. Not for the lack of ambition, just that those 2 clubs may provide the best environment for him. We might also be targeting players who are still involved in the world cup - they can't sign anything until released by their national teams - at least i'm hoping that's the case.
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Btw, I wonder why Sanchez prefer Arsenal towards Liverpool, is it because of the wages? the club? or just the modern London lifestyle? hmm.gif

QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jul 6 2014, 01:47 AM)
Seems like no more Liverpool player in WC after this... Mignolet the next to leave
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post Jul 6 2014, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jul 6 2014, 12:49 PM)
Btw, I wonder why Sanchez prefer Arsenal towards Liverpool, is it because of the wages? the club? or just the modern London lifestyle?  hmm.gif
Did you forget Kuyt, Mascherano, and Maxi? Oh...waiitt..  tongue.gif
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I think he may be looking at getting the best possible deal - not just in wages but the whole package. Ambition doesn't even come into it as he's leaving Barca - one of the two biggest clubs right now. Any other clubs - aside from Bayern and Real, will be a step down from Barca. If he prioritize quality of life, then i reckon London or Turin looks much more enticing than Liverpool. In terms of football project, I would still put Arsenal and Juventus ahead of us due to their recent success - yes i still count winning the Fa Cup as a success and Arsenal have just as good if not a better squad than us, and Juventus are currently dominating the Serie A.

Unless you have special affiliation or affinity to Liverpool, both Arsenal and Juventus just look so much more appealing.
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QUOTE(AnythingK @ Jul 6 2014, 12:49 PM)
Btw, I wonder why Sanchez prefer Arsenal towards Liverpool, is it because of the wages? the club? or just the modern London lifestyle?  hmm.gif
Did you forget Kuyt, Mascherano, and Maxi? Oh...waiitt..  tongue.gif
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I've read somewhere that he prefers the London lifestyle but god knows.

Anyway, one source saying we're eying Huntelaar as an alternative to Sanchez.

http://t.co/ZIet8cmRQO
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QUOTE(alidan @ Jul 6 2014, 01:28 PM)
I've read somewhere that he prefers the London lifestyle but god knows.

Anyway, one source saying we're eying Huntelaar as an alternative to Sanchez.

http://t.co/ZIet8cmRQO
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Hunterlaar is 30. Splashing big $ on him would be a waste as he will still need to adjust to the life in EPL.
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Signing Hunterlaar would completely make the signing of Lambert redundant and pointless. And Sanchez is essentially a very mobile and versatile forward which Huntelaar is not so i'm not sure how he can be remotely deemed as an alternative.

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