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post Jun 27 2014, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jun 27 2014, 09:47 PM)
Here we go again. 25 mil for a Brit, who had an uninspired performance at the WC finals.
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He is literally non-existence at the WC finals, even R.Barkley out-shine him even though getting lesser game time.
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post Jul 2 2014, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 2 2014, 10:16 PM)
Guys, please loan our Bertrand... felt sorry for  him didnt get game time....moses also didnt mind for a 2nd loan biggrin.gif
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You can keep Moses, he's too good for us.
I don't mind getting Schürrle though, since he doesn't get much game time too. laugh.gif
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post Jul 2 2014, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jul 2 2014, 11:17 PM)
schurrle is kinda decent as a wide player...but he has outstanding ability in his poaching skill...always pop out somewhere crucial to score a goal...his finishing also quite good...kinda like sturridge when he was at chelsea...excellent as 2nd striker/shadow striker behind the targetmen...

you guys dont need him you already have sturridge,,,  laugh.gif
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Nahhh, since our vampire had been banned for 4 months, our only reliable striker only left Sturridge & Lambert, so we do need Schurrle..at least loan him here. tongue.gif
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post Jul 3 2014, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(DaveDSix @ Jul 3 2014, 01:00 AM)
poor borini if he knew he not reliable at all
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poor Aspas if he knew he is not reliable AND people forget about him laugh.gif

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post Jul 4 2014, 01:25 AM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jul 3 2014, 11:12 PM)

More likely to be more Spurs than Atletico. Sounds pessimistic but my reasoning is this, Falcao is a finisher and Suarez is not. Sell Sturridge the finisher and we will survive, can't say the same about Suarez unless we can find a replacement just as good only that there isn't any.
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This is so true, no offend to Sturridge, but if we lost him, we might not suffer much damage, he is good but not great, he's good in poaching goal, that's it.
As for Suarez, he is one of a kind, he is phenomenal, he create something out of nothing, he can score from anywhere, he can nutmeg, he can score free kicks. There is more of it, I am lazy to state everything here. He literally lift the whole team last season.

Losing Suarez now is going to be the most stupid move ever, yes the money will be good, but how to find a replacement that half good as Suarez? There is no guarantee that player we buy will be good in the first season, and still do they able to adapt to the EPL game style?

I am really hoping that we can still keep Suarez, I don't mind missing out Sanchez & Shaqiri. Suarez is all we need.
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post Jul 4 2014, 12:50 PM

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Don't misunderstand me, I didn't mean that Sturridge is not important to the team. I am just giving example that if we lose Sturridge, we will not suffer big damage to the overall team. But if we lose Suarez, I can see that we will becoming Spurs 2.0. Well I could be wrong, and I hope that I am wrong, only times will tell.
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post Jul 4 2014, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jul 4 2014, 12:50 PM)
hes a forward, thought to be self-centered from start.
but always? he had 8 assists last season.
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Statistic not always tell everything on every match. I kinda agree with him, but he should include Suarez in it, both of them become self-centered, and their ego kicks in during the second half of the season, particularly on the last 5 matches or so.
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post Jul 4 2014, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Jul 4 2014, 01:08 PM)
Suarez leaving was expected, yes. We will have lots of money to reinvest, yes. But I can't really think of anyone out there who can or at least have the potential to give us what Suarez gives us. When Torres left we managed to get Suarez in to pick us up but who is next?
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As of now? None. Well like other optimistic people said, we can still score goals and win without Suarez, and stats did prove it. Stats said so, and only times will tell, lets see what will happen next season. I really hope that losing Suarez will not haunt us like how Spurs becoming after losing Bale.
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post Jul 4 2014, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 4 2014, 01:18 PM)
There's no doubt Saurez leaving will affect us in some ways but we have to believe that BR will be able to sort it out. I take solace in the fact that BR has been able to reinvent his team on the fly. He's been able to coach his team to adapt to various formations for various situations - this will be key for us this season. Suarez departure for me is a bit like losing Alonso - losing the brain of the team. But unlike Rafa's last season, BR is not as stubborn and FSG will allow him to reinvest the funds from selling Suarez.

I know some feel we may falter like Spurs and i can understand the fear. It's a big shoe to fill but again, i feel we are in much better shape than Spurs were when Bale left them. They did not have a Sturridge or a rising star like Sterling, or a choo choo train Hendo, or a magician in Coutinho. They had to buy all these players with Bale's money and most of them couldn't gel in time. I don't think we will suffer the same fate seeing the core of the team will remain largely intact. The risks are there but i think it's manageable. And we yet to see who we are replacing Suarez with.
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Yea, finger crossed! As for replacing Suarez, nah I don't think anyone capable of replacing him. We can only find someone to fill in that spot.
Agree that BR is good, and I hope that Borini & Lambert could step up and not just relying on Sturridge alone.
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post Jul 4 2014, 04:09 PM

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Suarez will definitely out-shadowed Messi in Barcelona, and after 1 season, Messi getting depressed and his performance dropped like hell. Then we can get him here cheap! rclxm9.gif
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post Jul 4 2014, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(keong24 @ Jul 4 2014, 04:36 PM)
so, u think this is the end of liverpool after he leave??
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Don't you think you misunderstood him? Its not the end, but we might suffer big damage, and we might become Spurs 2.0. Yea, *might*, every Liverpool fans will not want that to happen.
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post Jul 4 2014, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 4 2014, 04:59 PM)
Yes, it is a big loss for Liv that if Suarez leave, but there is nothing much the club can do, if the player wish to leave.
After all, at least Suarez did accomplish a mission for the club that Liv now back to CL.
Both party said thank you and move on.

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Yea, after all 90m is good deal. I just felt sad that its kinda early for Suarez to leave us. I really hope that BR can use the fund smartly, and don do any panic buy.
Since we have massive fund now, I do hope BR will bring in quality rather than quality.
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post Jul 4 2014, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(yeelong @ Jul 4 2014, 05:05 PM)
You haven't mentioned the Scums.......mid table on transition....
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Nah, they are optimistic enough.

Many scums think that they are going to charge forward again because LVG going to manage them.
Many scums think that since we lose Suarez, we are going to take their mid table position.

Talk about optimistic.
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post Jul 4 2014, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 4 2014, 05:32 PM)
Lambert, Lallana, now Lovren?

All with "L" and all from Saints......,
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Now you mentioned it, I think BR has some kind of obsession towards alphabet, S & L to be exact. laugh.gif

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post Jul 5 2014, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(kevafk @ Jul 5 2014, 01:02 PM)
Yea but has anyone doubted Adam Lallana quality tho? last year everyone was like LALAMAN should join in! you got your man now..

Liverpool would have been better squad if not using all the money on Carrol + Downing + Charlie Adam..
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Yea I did hoo haa back then hoping Lala could join us here, but come on not with that price, yes he is not one season wonder, yes he is on his peak, yes he is EPL proven. But still overpriced.

QUOTE(carloz28 @ Jul 5 2014, 01:10 PM)
Thank you, Marlick. Took the words right from my mouth. Just to add on (so that fanboys will not go into RAGE mode) iIt will be unfair to ignore the contributions from other players like Sturridge, Sterling, Henderson and Skrtel n Gerrard.

I'll phrase it this way, Suarez' form galvanized the entire team, no denying this.  We were like scraping 1-0 wins wih the Jeckyll and Hyde performance during his suspension..remember?

A bit worried to see how we will cope without our Talismanic striker and the hectic schedule that CL brings in, getting 2nd is a great achievement indeed.....

But to maintain the form and continuity next season and to build from that success, to me, that's when the REAL TEST begins for BR.
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This is what I always mean that yes, even when without Suarez we may have better win statistics, and yes statistics is the fact. But like what carloz mentioned there with what happen to all the 1-0 win.

Nobody is saying other players is shit, and they are not important, just that Suarez literally lifted the whole team. And yes no player is bigger than the club, but we had to give credits to Suarez for his passion for every matches he played. Without Suarez next season, and with so many matches to play, BR is going to have hell of a work there.

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post Jul 6 2014, 12:49 PM

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Btw, I wonder why Sanchez prefer Arsenal towards Liverpool, is it because of the wages? the club? or just the modern London lifestyle? hmm.gif

QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jul 6 2014, 01:47 AM)
Seems like no more Liverpool player in WC after this... Mignolet the next to leave
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Did you forget Kuyt, Mascherano, and Maxi? Oh...waiitt.. tongue.gif
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post Jul 6 2014, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jul 6 2014, 03:18 PM)
Higuian anyone? Or Martinez?
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I'd prefer Benzema. Just bought France's away jersey with his name on it. laugh.gif
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post Jul 7 2014, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(lp16 @ Jul 7 2014, 03:19 PM)
Buying players is not like going supermarket and grab anything we fancy. Seller needs to sell and players have their terms or preference too.

What's important is the players we brought in subscribe to our plaing philosophy and create a balanced team.

Big players failed too; look at Veron, Morientes, Sheva etc. No guarantee big names will shine. Let's have faith in our players. Play with heart and soul and we will march on.
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Responding to the bold part, if there are no guarantee big names will shine, the same goes to mediocre and no name players.
At least getting big name, the chance of them to flop is lower than no name. If we have to list out mediocre/no name players that failed, the list will definitely a lot longer than that.

If we really sell Suarez, that big sum of money should spend on a few world class player, big name. And not spend on a lot of mediocre/no name players. Quality > Quantity.
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post Jul 7 2014, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(hfi @ Jul 7 2014, 03:28 PM)
Would you have paid 24mil for untested, unproven Suarez or 50mil for Torres ?
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When we bought Suarez, he is already top class in both his club and country, so I don't know how to answer you question.
And yes I will buy Torress for 50m at that time.
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post Jul 7 2014, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jul 7 2014, 04:30 PM)
Didn't Spurs spend the money on the likes of Paulinho, Eriksen etc?  They might not be world class but they are certainly not mediocre.
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Well they did spend on many others, they clearly buying quantity.

And, Eriksen and Paulinho didn't really flop, they did live up to the expectation.

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