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TSFubar20	Mar 27 2014, 09:07 AM, updated 12y ago Show posts by this member only \| Post #1
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	LYN Proton Persona Owners Club V51! LYNPPOC Persona celebrating 51 threads of awesomeness!! IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT!! TO ALL FELLOW LYNPPOC MEMBERS WHO ARE DRIVING PERSONA ELEGANCE: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « If you have ever experienced sounds (tak tak tak tak tak) coming from your engine during cold start in the morning, then it MAY BE one of the infamous Proton's manufacturing defect: the IAFM problem. IAFM noise is most noticeable during cold start, and you may hear the frequency of the noise going up or down depending on the RPM that the engine is running at. The noise is identical to a diesel truck or lorry's engine idling noise. Once the engine has warmed up, the noise will become softer or totally eliminated. This is because the plastic components on one of the valves on IAFM expands with heat. Below is a video of a member's car with IAFM problem. B-gKqxJb5ZI So far the problems that may be associated with IAFM noise are nothing major, but in certain cases it may cause severe throttle lag, and the noise may get louder over time. Some owners have even experienced increase in fuel consumption and bad engine response. If you visit the service centre and the mechanic or service attendant tells you that the noise is not caused by IAFM as our Persona Elegance comes with new batch of IAFM modules, DO NOT believe what they said. You may: 1.) Ask them to diagnose and tell you what exactly is the problem since they insisted that it's not IAFM module noise. 2.) If the mechanics at CoSE tell you that the noise is not caused by IAFM, go to a few different SCs, have them to check your IAFM module for imperfections on the valve, then get them to write a report each. Compile these reports & bring it to CoSE's customer service and file a complaint, give it to their higher authority. Now, do remember that they may not be able to figure the noise out if you send your car to SC as the engine has already warmed up. Park your car and leave it there for an hour or so for the engine to cool down, then get the service attendant or mechanic to listen to the noise as you start the engine. Again, I would like to stress on this main point as I've experienced this myself and wasted almost a month plus before sending it to a different SC just to have the noise diagnosed as IAFM problem; If the guys at CoSE tells you that it's not IAFM problem but your guts and 13 other SCs tell u that it is, then it IS IAFM problem. In my case they never even bothered to check as the engine has already warmed up and the sound was gone by the time the mechanic laid his hands on my car. This serves as an important announcement to all Persona Elegance (PE) owners as to not overlook this small issue that may lead to greater problems in the future. The price of IAFM modules has dropped since year 2009 (from RM 1200+ in late 2008 to RM 2xx in 2011) because of the frequency of Campro IAFM engines having this problem. Still, it's our right to claim the IAFM modules as they are covered under warranty and malfunctioned units are manufacturing defects. We should not wait till the warranty period is over and then pay them RM300+ including labour to fix a defect that is there from day 1 of ownership of the car itself. I hope all the Persona Elegance owners out there take note of this issue and do not keep an eye closed. Salam 1 Malaysia, & Harap Maklum. Photos From TTs TT 4.0 - Genting Highlands. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Studio shots of the New Persona Elegance (PE) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Proton Persona Promotional Video » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « hKsktpiAfAQ Kfxs5oLUg7Q lKRbLITXJOA ywgZxEHvigQ Previous Threads V1-V50 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « V1 V2 V3 V4 V5 V6 V7 V8 V9 V10 V11 V12 V13 V14 V15 V16 V17 V18.88 V19 V20 V21 V22 V23 V24 V25 V26 V27 V28.88 V29 V30 V31 V32 V33 V34 V35 V36 V37 V38 V39 V40 V41 V42 V43 V44 V45 V46 V47 V48 V49 V50 Proudly a Proton Persona Owner » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1. wkho555 - LightGold HL 2. CHIP CN - Blueberry Tea ML 3. vivre - Tranquility Black HL 4. Ultima - Irridescent White BL 5. spana - Blueberry Tea ML 6. bobiq - Iri White ML 7. mr_ashraf - metal grey ML 8. billygoatz - Irridescent White BL 9. tartung - Tranquility Black HL 10. badrul_rg - Blueberry Tea HL 11. dzariq - Solid White BL 12. john_jenin - Tranquility Black HL 13. ! Love Money - Irridescent White ML (MT) 14. izaman - Tranquility Black HL 15. zhen^wei - Irridescent White BL (AT) 16. zuying1985 - Irridescent White BL (A) 17. apahal - Tranquility Black ML (M) 18. hwchua - Tranquility Black ML (A) 19. jondevour - Irridescent White HL 20. Boxerawd - LightGold ML (MT) 21. pakleh - HL tranquilty black 22. bluswhitehat - Light Gold - HL 23. spana - Light Gold HL 24. nel - Irridescent White 25. Kappa - Irridescent White ML (MT) 26. andy_resort - Irridescent White BL 27. dukunet - Tranquility Black HL 28. h_aiqa_l - Tranquility Black 29. hornetsjet - Metal Grey BL (MT) 30. malyadayada - Red BL 31. korent - T. Black ML (MT) 32. xordMeztGeR - Bluberry Tea ML 33. amiranna - light Gold (ML) 34. zeronehza - blueberry tea HL 35. wqv_joe: Metal Grey ML 36. danilo5753 - Irr.White H-Line 37. JonSpark - Metal Gray B-Line 38. ZYen - Solid White HL 39. Niv86 - Blueberry Tea HL 40. shapa106 - Metal Grey BL 41. alienLYN - Metal grey BL (MT) 42. cmyap - RED (BL) Auto 43. shihyao - Red BL Auto 44. hulkboy - Metal grey (ML- AT), IAFM unit 45. ignatiuslu - solid white - MT - iafm 46. necromencer - Persona M-line AT, I-White 47. exhausted - HL Auto Blueberry 48. pillar - BL, manual, Irrediscent white 49. remo1502 - Base Line Persona I - White 50. farscope - BL auto 51. ryugan - b/line,Metal grey Manual Tranny 52. nazril1906 - I-white HL auto 53. gaaraofthedesert- black m-line (mt) 54. mfanthony - metal grey-m line AT with IAFM 55. weaflee - Iri White BL (A) 56. loong2020 - ML,auto, Irrediscent white 57. ychwang - Irrediscent white Manual BL 58. figure8 - black - M-Line 59. harith_gtr34 - Blueberry Tea - M-line (AT) 60. magnumrolez - persona SE hazel blue 61. persona68 - Persona Silver H-Line 1.6(A) 62. sebnimh84 - Persona H-Line Blueberry Tea 63. jonilabu - persona I-White (M) B-Line 64. luriazidnaffa - Blue Haze SE 65. Sandking - Black-H.Line 66. amadeo - Solid white M-Line 67. Cool_Knights - Persona SE (Haze Blue) 68. drgnkid - Blue Haze SE 69. seela85 - Persona Metal Grey BS (MT) 70. Heavencloud -Tranquility Black M-Line (MT) 71. krk24 - Persona Genetic Silver (HL) 72. Ravemaster - Blue Haze - SE (AT) 73. mamata - Blue Haze - SE (AT) 74. Martolavesitus - Black M-Line 75. acam - Metal Grey ML (MT) 76. Arasy - Metal Grey BL (MT) 77. ipohmali70 - Persona SE Brilliant Red 78. lhy88 - Tranquility Black M-Line 79. Datuk_Seri - Tranquility Black M-Line 80. cbkhor - Persona M line, Silver 81. sketcher - Metal Grey Persona (MT) 82. KKW - Tranquility Black M-Line Auto 83. 2fast2furious - Persona B-Line (A) Silver colour 84. rckh - Metal Grey ML (AT) 85. Mutt2020 - Persona SE, Brilliant Red 86. eMeRiTuS - Briliant Red SE (AT) 87. Josh_M - Blueberry Tea 88. keeplwk - Tranquility Black ML 89. Exora7118 - Tranquility Black ML 90. xefron - blue haze Persona SE 91. @r3\|4^2 - Red BL (MT) 92. yous - Blueberry Tea (ML) 93. Mafarizan - blubery tea 94. Speedy~ - Black ML (AT) 95. afiqn9 - metal grey automatic 96. chteh0721 - Blue Haze SE (AT) 97. NSX_MY - Genetic Silver ML (MT) 98. shacxz - Brilliant Red SE (AT) 99. zhnme523 - Genetic Silver ML (MT) 100. fonda82 - Metal Gray BL (AT) 101. persona_r3 - Blue Haze SE (AT) 102. dARKaNGEl - Blue Haze SE (AT) 103. Lord_sepulchrave - Blue Haze SE (AT) 104. naley - Genetic Silver BL (MT) 105. patdidi - Genetic Silver BL (MT) 106. snakesolidus - Tranquility Black HL 107. yhanwong - Genetic Silver HL (AT) 108. Josh_M - Blueberry Tea ML 109. Baozzz - Blueberry Tea ML 110. bryanwong3 - Genetic Silver ML (AT) 111. JynoRip - Metal Gray BL 112. yclim11 - Blue Haze SE (AT) 113. panafone - Tranquility Black HL (AT) 114. zepple - Genetic Silver HL (AT) 115. vccy - Genetic Silver ML (AT) 116. flyingteeku - Bronze Garnet BL 117. RookY - Tranquility Black ML 118. muslayer - Metal Gray ML (MT) 119. dadurtyz - Tranquility Black BL (AT) Elegance 120. shaff - Tranquility Black BL (MT) Elegance 121. isildur88 - Brilliant Red SE (AT) 122. summer9uy - Brilliant Red SE (AT) 123. AlongN9 - Metal Grey ML 124. arfaie - Genetic Silver BL (MT) Elegance 125. analogi21 - Chiffone Green ML Elegance 126. drk messenger - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 127. aca1 - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 128. roundedfly - Chiffon Green ML (AT) Elegance 129. boonykun - Genetic Silver ML (MT) Elegance 130. org_kg - Tranquility Black BL (MT) Elegance 131. moc. - Blueberry Tea ML (MT) 132. MjMax15 - Metal Gray BL (AT) 133. d3x - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 134. anilin - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 135. crashoverride - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 136. yohannes - Tranquility Black HL (AT) 137. alextrg - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 138. hendra86 - Genetic Silver BL (AT) Elegance 139. ultraman070 - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 140. Beogatts - Tranquility Black BL (MT) Elegance 141. ezone85 - Genetic Silver BL (AT) Elegance 142. victor87 - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 143. poobalanc - Chiffon Green BL (AT) Elegance 144. wilsonjack228 - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 145. jasontantenghuat - Metal Gray BL (AT) 146. lhongwuh - Blueberry Tea ML (AT) 147. khtee - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 148. rex82 - Genetic Silver BL (MT) Elegance 149. jackyap84 - Chiffon Green Hl (AT) Elegance 150. chew1188 - Genetic Silver ML (MT) Elegance 151. onenis - Tranquility Black ML (AT) 152. kfthoo - Blueberry Tea HL (AT) 153. cherryha - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 154. zacTera - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 155. yukogura89 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 156. mosh - Brilliant Red Elegance 157. cva_m - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Persona Elegance 158. reGedit07 - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Persona Elegance 159. unknownhammie - Tranquility Black BL (MT) Elegance 160. adload - Bronze Garnet (AT) Elegance 161. syakumi - Bronze Garnett ML (MT) Elegance 162. seng12345 - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 163. ahshuy - Metal Gray HL (AT) 164. ZenGTMM - Tranquility Black BL (AT) Elegance 165. sensei84 - Tranquility Black ML (MT) Elegance 166. trinittrotoleune - Solid White HL 167. jhbey - Bronze Garnet HL Elegance 168. saddient - Bronze Garnet HL Elegance 169. davwon - metal grey BL (AT) 170. savages - Tranquility Black HL Elegance 171. azrko - Irrediscent white B line 172. MR_47 - Bronze Garnet BL Elegance 173. switch_133 - Brilliant Red HL Elegance 174. xandras - Bronze Garnet ML Elegance 175. slater_iz - Metal Grey BL MT 176. AkuWady - Tranquility Black ML (AT) 177. ITmaniac - Genetic Silver ML 178. gm_18300 - Metal Grey ML 179. Janick1437 - BL (MT) 180. fenrir0402 - Bronze Garnet BL MT 181. farcry84 - Genetic Silver HL Elegance 182. antkuchiki - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 183. skacinta08 - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 184. ngeo88 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 185. ashangel39 - Tranquility Black ML (AT) Elegance 186. forumyen - BL (AT) Elegance 187. magister - Genetic Silver HL (AT) 188. scattygirl - Genetic Silver BL (AT) Elegance 189. PaiPitt - Metal Grey BL (MT) 190. saiful_azhar - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 191. cho_petpet - Chiffon Green BL (MT) Elegance 192. little little - Genetic Sliver BL (MT) Elegance 193. forbidden84 - Genetic Sliver BL (MT) Elegance 194. samwongjyhhorng - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 195. K.Lee - Tranquility Black ML (AT) Elegance 196. aziz79 - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 197. Putera_Stephen - Tranquility Black ML (AT) Elegance 198. zapdos9 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 199. izzizahari - Chiffon Green ML (AT) Elegance 200. eanson - Chiffon Green ML (AT) Elegance 201. manejist - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 202. speedrider - Broze Garnet (AT) Elegance 203. shinjo - Chiffon Green BL (AT) Elegance 204. kintsuchi - Tranquility Black ML (MT) Elegance 205. pupumaru - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 206. PGS - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 207. phythia79 - Genetic Silver ML Elegance 208. RViN - Tranquility Black HL (AT) Elegance 209. onijoseph - Chiffon Green BL (MT) Elegance 210. MovingMachine - Genetic Silver ML (MT) Elegance 211. petit - Tranquility Black (AT) Elegance 212. pandaPan - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 213. din_kaixa - Metal Grey BL (MT) 214. cajun2de - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 215. selangorclay - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 216. lkc185 - Metal Grey BL (AT) 217. oldskool AE - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 218. potionmaster1987 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 219. wei_hoong - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 220. ychoong - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 221. IsapIsap - Genetic Silver BL (MT) Elegance 222. rhoma - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 223. ckdenion - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 224. wan arif - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 225. deepan84 - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 226. bryan_oel - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 227. jasontantenghuat - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 228. sportivo55 - Bronze Garnet BL (AT) Elegance 229. monodevil - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 230. pairjal - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 231. azeotrope - Tranquility Black ML (MT) Elegance 232. dorinyeah - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 233. Cavino - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 234. phatzlan - Tranquility Black (AT) 235. ResQ - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 236. sairento - Chiffon Green BL (MT) Elegance 237. Dav6534 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 238. pairjal - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 239. kokleong75 - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 240. qeem - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 241. jasonloh7906 - Blueberry Tea HL (AT) 242. tarm - Chiffon Green HL (AT) Elegance 243. nevergonewrong - Brilliant Red HL (AT) Elegance 244. panje001 - Pearl White ML (AT) Elegance 245. weeyi00 - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 246. luenywoon - Pearl White ML (MT) Elegance 247. alvizz - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 248. dzie25 - Bronze Garnet BL (AT) Elegance 249. redjinx - Bronze Garnet BL (AT) Elegance 250. haur- Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 251. kogula14 - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 252. swixx - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 253. kiatsim86 - Bronze Garnet ML(MT) Elegance 254. raimy_m9 - Chiffon Green BL (MT) Elegance 255. apambalikla - Bronze Garnet BL (AT) Elegance 256. sebakul - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 257. shadowmania - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 258. puven10 - Pearl White HL (AT) Elegance 259. jaans13 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 260. jacqueslim - Tranquility Black HL(AT) Elegance 261. anubiz - Bronze Garnet BL (AT) Elegance 262. normal_user - Genetic Silver ML (AT) 263. rheza02 - Tranquility Black BL (AT) Elegance 264. huat0823 - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 265. Tanjacky - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 266. MetaWipe - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 267. Aerosmith - Tranquility Black BL (AT) Elegance 268. adieslave - Tranquility Black BL (AT) Elegance 269. ziggy87 - Pearl White HL (AT) Elegance. 270. The_FQ400 - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 271. kking668 - Solid White ML (MT) Elegance 272. James831 - Chiffon Green BL (AT) Elegance 273. Jazz6218 - Tranquility Black ML (AT) 274. MG4 - Bronze Garnet ML (AT) Elegance 275. VincentChen - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 276. samfisher - Brilliant Red SE (AT) 277. junhowe - Chiffon Green HL (AT) Elegance 278. shankar_dass93 - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 279. rObIrdz - Genetic Silver ML (MT) Elegance 280. que0788 - Bronze Garnet BL (AT) Elegance 281. DooHicKEY - Bronze Garnet BL (MT) Elegance 282. Deejayaw - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 283. TDUEnthusiast - Metal Grey BL 284. noobandroid - Genetic Silver BL (AT) Elegance, Genetic Silver HL (AT) 285. mengsuan - Ciffon Green BL (AT) Elegance 286. RVN10 - Bronze Garnet HL (AT) Elegance 287. Slekerz - Bronze Garnet BL (MT) Elegance 288. kennywee92 - Bronze Garnet BL (MT) Elegance 289. Woon Ann - Genetic Silver HL (AT) Elegance 290. Eden - Genetic Silver BL (AT) Elegance 291. Vort3x - Solid White HL (AT) Elegance 292. soonyong80 - Bronze Garnet BL (AT) Elegance 293. ewarung - Genetic Silver ML (MT) Elegance 294. Blackcloud73 - Bronze Garnet ML (MT) Elegance 295. anep - Bronze Garnet Standard (AT) 296. nickzkuso - Solid White Standard (AT) 297. WCN - Tranquility Black ML (AT) 298. neochaser5 - Tranquility Black Standard (AT) 299. kilammizan - Tranquility Black Standard (MT) 300. pipi_6988 - Bronze Garnet Standard (AT) 301. chchyong89 - Tranquility Black Standard (MT) 302. Xiong87 - Bronze Garnet Standard (MT) 303. ajie - Bronze Garnet Standard (AT) 304. Nashraf - Genetic Silver ML (MT) Elegance 305. maxilife1 - Brilliant Red (AT) 306. powerstar - Solid White ML (M) Elegance 307. samuellaw178 - Genetic Silver ML (AT) 308. linkinpark - Genetic Silver Standard (AT) 309. david5343 - Chiffon Green ML (MT) Elegance 310. figuremeout - Bronze Garnet Standard (AT) Elegance 311. zaizai1989 - Genetic Silver Standard (AT) Elegance 312. gcooi90 - Solid White Standard (AT) Elegance 313. RaioShen - Solid White Standard (MT) Elegance 314. guy73 - Chiffon Green Standard (MT) Elegance 315. aki^what - Bronze Garnet Standard (AT) Elegance 316. nickyclp - Genetic Silver Standard (MT) Elegance 317. mat_ten02 - Solid White ML (MT) Elegance 318. paul5263 - Genetic Silver (AT) SV 319. kinkeet - Genetic Silver ML (AT) Elegance 320. edwin1011 - Bronze Garnet (AT) SV 321. mi-g - Genetic Silver BL (AT) 322. wenco - Genetic Silver (AT) SV 323. akh2920 - Genetic Silver (AT) SV 324. then17000 - Atlantic Blue (AT) SV 325. hankeat05 - Bronze Garnet (AT) SV ~Honorary Members~ Dares V12kompressor WanTheBear 325* Members and Growing!!! For those who just received their Persona, Congratulations & Welcome to LYNPPC!! Please PM ME or POST in this thread stating that u are a new owner to update your name into the list. Service Cost at Proton Edar Service Center IAFM 1.6(M) Persona.pdf IAFM 1.6(A) Persona.pdf Price of Proton Parts Proton Parts Cost Recommended SC 1)Serdang SC - http://worldcarcare.com.my/WorldCarCare.html Reasons: Best customer service in all reviews. 2) CoSE (beside Kesas) - Head towards Klang on Kesas and you will pass by the biggest Proton billboard you'll ever see. Thats the place. Proton Center of Excellence (CoSE), Jalan TP 5, Taman Perindustrian Sime Uep, 47600 Subang Jaya, Selangor, Malaysia Tel: 03-80269333 Tel2: 03-80269167 Fax: 03-80269155 HQ, easy to claim warranty and reflash ECU. Have to make appointment b4 going there. Can bring own Lube 3) Juru SC (Penang) - Can bring own lube. 4) Trend point - Along Jalan Tun Razak. (Still under review, first review was bad, but a warranty claim experience after that shows that they're quite efficient and able to detect problems that even CoSE denies.) Unrecommended SC (TRY TO AVOID AT ALL COST!) 1) Sin Siang Hin sdn. bhd. all Klang Valley branches - bad service and they whack ur car like they pay for petrol 2) Senaxis Sdn Bhd No. 50, Jalan SS26/ 11, Taman Mayang Jaya, Petaling Jaya, 47301 SELANGOR Tel: 012-3283123 Fax: 03-78048753 Member's Review: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Try avoid using any Shell engine oil for Persona as most of the members here felt that our CamTakPro engine got rougher using it. Common Problem in Persona » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Problem 1: Knocking sound when cornering on uneven surface coming from Front RHS Causes: This is due to the power steering fluid delivery piping knocking against the metal pipe and the body underneath it as the uneven road causes it to twitch up and down. OLD Pipe (left) vs New Pipe (right) [attachmentid=1911676][attachmentid=1911677] Solution: Proceed to Proton SC to claim warranty for Power Steering fluid assembly. Claims are FOC, including the power steering fluid. Parts list they will change for this new power steering assembly. 1)Tube B - PW828913N 2)Tube A - PW828914N 3)Hose Return - PW828915N 4)Rubber Hose - PW820961 5)Clip Pressure - PW820962 6)Orifice Valve - PW895228 Problem 2: Radio hangs/not responsive while driving and no buttons seems to response to press. Causes: The RDS function is scanning for a clearer frequency. Due to different frequency for the same radio station overlapping certain areas while driving, this causes the radio to re-tune the station. Solution: Turn off the RDS function loh. Go read the manual on how to do it. Problem 3: Klock klock sound coming from the rear seat. (Not applicable for B-Line ) Causes: The foldable rear seat hook has a bit of free play. Solution: Wrap some thick cushion type double sided tape to the hook. Tips for Persona Users (To be Updated) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « 1)Most SC uses Petronas engine oil. To use other engine oil, exp Shell Helix HX-7, its recommended to go to authorized service outlets instead. 2)Stock brake pads are softer than Sponge Bob. Recommendation is to change it to ceramic brakes. Better performance and lesser dust. After market stuffs Brakes Ceramic brakes – by Kelvin3900 http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1300445 F1 style Blinking LED tail lamp http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1451513 Car visual mods http://www.shorty5-minigarage.blogspot.com/ ICE http://www.maxaudio.com.my/ Car respraying http://www.cyf.com.my/ Tires Most silent = Primacy LC, slightly poor grip on wet roads (a tradeoff for less noise). Dry Grip High Performance = Bridgestone Potenza RE002, Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2, Continental Sport Contact 5(poor wear rate) Wet Grip High Performance = Toyo Proxes T1-R, Pirelli P Zero (Rare), Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 Best tire to date: Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2 Car Tint Cheapest car tinting shop I found. http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1266694 Safety film tint http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...597&hl=Ms.Canny Help to calculate FC Register at http://www.fuelly.com/ and post it in ur siggy. Maybe in the next Version of the thread we can reserve the 2nd post for FC monitoring by forumers.. Or another ideal way to calculate is to 1) Fill full tank petrol and reset trip meter 2) Drive car like mad fella or slow like aunty/uncle. 3) When u need to refill the tank (no matter you have used half tank only or use till no more petrol in tank), top it back up to full tank (remember to note down how many litres filled in, using the price instead is subjective as petrol price fluctuates up and down and may affect future comparison). 4) Jot down mileage from previous full tank till refill and reset trip meter again. 5) Calculate (FC= Total mileage/Litres filled to top up back to full tank). 6) Post it up onto our club here for comparison. State ( XX% city driving / YY%highway) in XX KM/L format.. Disclaimer: I am in no way associated with the above stated threads promoting their products nor I have any experience using the product unless otherwise stated. This post has been edited by Fubar20: May 19 2014, 08:27 PM
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TSFubar20	Mar 27 2014, 09:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #2
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	Persona Cabin Filter Bulk 2 (Patco or Sanden) Only RM 7. Very cheap. Courtesy of Maxwell6635 MOQ is 20 pcs. POSLAJU also available (RM8 WM) State the quantity and type needed. Patco Sanden Namelist 1. Fubar20 5pcs (Patco) - Paid 2. jasonloh7906 3pcs (Sanden) - Paid (Poslaju) 3. kennywee92 5pcs (Patco) - Paid (Collect on TT) 4. waiket 5pcs (Patco) - Paid (Collect on TT) 5. zapdos9 2pcs (Sanden) - Paid (Collect on TT) 6. TDUEnthusiast 3pcs (Sanden) - Paid (Collect by kennywee92 ) 7. Beogatts 2pcs (Sanden) - Paid (Collect on TT) 8. biotin 1pc (Sanden) - Paid (Self collect) Bulk Closed Liao Thanks to all who made the payment. The filter will be collected on Saturday by Maxwell. So, Filter Collection TT will be on next Friday tentatively. This post has been edited by Fubar20: Jun 6 2014, 09:05 AM
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Cavino	Mar 27 2014, 09:12 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #3
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	Been waiting for you to open one up. Since you're the only experienced one here after CK suddenly shut down the thread without a link to new one.
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Cavino	Mar 27 2014, 09:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #4
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	For izul info, I'm driving the Civic now. Got a bit of phobia of following to closely now coz I really no money for repair anymore and cannot afford to claim insurance without a backup transport.
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TSFubar20	Mar 27 2014, 09:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #5
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 27 2014, 09:12 AM) Been waiting for you to open one up. Since you're the only experienced one here after CK suddenly shut down the thread without a link to new one. All SV owners also useless one.
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kausar	Mar 27 2014, 09:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #6
On my way Junior Member 608 posts Joined: Jul 2009	QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 27 2014, 09:13 AM) For izul info, I'm driving the Civic now. Got a bit of phobia of following to closely now coz I really no money for repair anymore and cannot afford to claim insurance without a backup transport. talking of honda civic, i see new honda city only have euro 2 emission, meaning our persona campro euro 4 is better in term of emission... hmmm?
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TSFubar20	Mar 27 2014, 09:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #7
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(kausar @ Mar 27 2014, 09:32 AM) talking of honda civic, i see new honda city only have euro 2 emission, meaning our persona campro euro 4 is better in term of emission... hmmm? Mana mention PE one is euro 4 wo?
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TDUEnthusiast	Mar 27 2014, 12:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #8
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 27 2014, 09:13 AM) For izul info, I'm driving the Civic now. Got a bit of phobia of following to closely now coz I really no money for repair anymore and cannot afford to claim insurance without a backup transport. Bang this one really habis. QUOTE(kausar @ Mar 27 2014, 09:32 AM) talking of honda civic, i see new honda city only have euro 2 emission, meaning our persona campro euro 4 is better in term of emission... hmmm? Really? Mana? QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 27 2014, 09:54 AM) Mana mention PE one is euro 4 wo? http://www.motortrader.com.my/news/proton-...e-technologies/ Campro is Euro 4 capable. So far cannot find anything that says it's already at Euro 4 level since some time ago.
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V12Kompressor	Mar 27 2014, 12:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #9
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	IAFM+ is only Euro 4, not IAFM.
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TSFubar20	Mar 27 2014, 01:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #10
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 27 2014, 12:20 PM) Campro is Euro 4 capable. So far cannot find anything that says it's already at Euro 4 level since some time ago. That's why want to know the source nia. QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 27 2014, 12:43 PM) IAFM+ is only Euro 4, not IAFM. Saw it on Paul Tan website.
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Xefron	Mar 27 2014, 02:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #11
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,507 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 27 2014, 12:43 PM) IAFM+ is only Euro 4, not IAFM. Currently Campro at EURO 3,capable go to EURO 4,but now already EURO 6.
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V12Kompressor	Mar 27 2014, 03:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #12
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	wah... euro 6 dun care lah. my car is euro 0 can liao. This post has been edited by V12Kompressor: Mar 27 2014, 03:45 PM
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Cavino	Mar 27 2014, 03:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #13
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 27 2014, 03:42 PM) wah... euro 6 dun care lah. my car is euro 0 can liao. Apa high euro, whats the point when our petrol remained at low euro 2M or something like that...
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V12Kompressor	Mar 27 2014, 03:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #14
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	no matter what type of petrol I use, my car is still euro 0.
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dares	Mar 27 2014, 04:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #15
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 27 2014, 03:52 PM) no matter what type of petrol I use, my car is still euro 0. Ini dah dinyahkucingkan
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TSFubar20	Mar 27 2014, 05:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #16
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	After got new thread also lagi slowpoke.
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kennywee92	Mar 27 2014, 06:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #17
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zapdos9	Mar 27 2014, 07:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #18
chittychitty bangbang Senior Member 523 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Another Dimensioin	Wow. Finally new thread
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edwin1011	Mar 27 2014, 07:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #19
New Member Junior Member 10 posts Joined: May 2010 From: Serdang	yay!! new thread!! just saw voltage stabiliser at the garage sales... do it really work??
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mls_gamer	Mar 27 2014, 07:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #20
Regular Senior Member 1,589 posts Joined: May 2008	Future SAGA FLX EXECUTIVE (M) or Persona (M) SV user.......coming in.....
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vampire_empirez	Mar 27 2014, 07:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #21
Getting Started Junior Member 131 posts Joined: Oct 2011	yay!
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TSFubar20	Mar 27 2014, 10:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #22
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	End of March TiTies Day: Fly-Dei Date: 28/3/2013 Time: 7.30 (Semua jibai come after 9pm anyway) Location: Restoran KINRARA, Sri Petaling (parking here)
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edwin1011	Mar 27 2014, 11:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #23
New Member Junior Member 10 posts Joined: May 2010 From: Serdang	can i join too??
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TSFubar20	Mar 27 2014, 11:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #24
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(edwin1011 @ Mar 27 2014, 11:08 PM) can i join too?? Why not? Unless you are LGBT.
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edwin1011	Mar 27 2014, 11:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #25
New Member Junior Member 10 posts Joined: May 2010 From: Serdang	yay!! gonna meet all sifus soon!!!
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TSFubar20	Mar 27 2014, 11:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #26
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(edwin1011 @ Mar 27 2014, 11:15 PM) yay!! gonna meet all sifus soon!!! Sifu tarak but sifat ada.
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The_FQ400	Mar 27 2014, 11:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #27
New Member Newbie 5 posts Joined: Jun 2011	Reporting in...
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V12Kompressor	Mar 28 2014, 12:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #28
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 27 2014, 10:51 PM) End of March TiTies Day: Fly-Dei Date: 28/3/2013 Time: 7.30 (Semua jibai come after 9pm anyway) Location: Restoran KINRARA, Sri Petaling (parking here) u kambing? or u got badminton again? in b4 play badminton at kar pak.
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mengsuan	Mar 28 2014, 01:02 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #29
9W2NNS Staff 10,459 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: Puchong	QUOTE(Xefron @ Mar 27 2014, 02:46 PM) Currently Campro at EURO 3,capable go to EURO 4,but now already EURO 6. Campro CFE, Euro 5.
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TSFubar20	Mar 28 2014, 09:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #30
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 28 2014, 12:29 AM) u kambing? or u got badminton again? in b4 play badminton at kar pak. Kambing after badminton. Please prepare the human poles at kapak.
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Cavino	Mar 28 2014, 09:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #31
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 28 2014, 09:04 AM) Kambing after badminton. Please prepare the human poles at kapak. Just see the post of the new MMC Civic in Thailand at PaulTan. Ni a ma, Honda really short changed Asian. Practically the same thing with a bit of face lift. Not the massive improvement US Emergency MMC that noticeably improved on handling, braking strength, noise insulation (thicker glass as well), sportier front light, much better looking rear light, upgraded premium soft material on dashboard and doors, lowered sportier bonnet, altered less cluttered dashboard and direction, etc. All the improvement in US, only front grill being over. Figured since Asian did not complain, retained the flawed 9th Gen to lower the cost and covered the upgraded cost in US. Guess even if I come into some $$$, I won't be upgrading to this generation of Civic liao. But then again, I really got no money to upgrade to this generation of Civic even if I want. This post has been edited by Cavino: Mar 28 2014, 09:41 AM
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TSFubar20	Mar 28 2014, 10:02 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #32
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 28 2014, 09:40 AM) Just see the post of the new MMC Civic in Thailand at PaulTan. Ni a ma, Honda really short changed Asian. Practically the same thing with a bit of face lift. Not the massive improvement US Emergency MMC that noticeably improved on handling, braking strength, noise insulation (thicker glass as well), sportier front light, much better looking rear light, upgraded premium soft material on dashboard and doors, lowered sportier bonnet, altered less cluttered dashboard and direction, etc. All the improvement in US, only front grill being over. Figured since Asian did not complain, retained the flawed 9th Gen to lower the cost and covered the upgraded cost in US. Guess even if I come into some $$$, I won't be upgrading to this generation of Civic liao. But then again, I really got no money to upgrade to this generation of Civic even if I want. Why quote me? I got talking about Honda meh? This post has been edited by Fubar20: Mar 28 2014, 10:03 AM
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Cavino	Mar 28 2014, 10:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #33
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	Got, I see your hidden meaning in your words...cannot explain...
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TSFubar20	Mar 28 2014, 10:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #34
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 28 2014, 10:08 AM) Got, I see your hidden meaning in your words...cannot explain... Please explain. And I meant about Honda.
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Cavino	Mar 28 2014, 10:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #35
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 28 2014, 10:09 AM) Please explain. And I meant about Honda. Don't want to explain....
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TSFubar20	Mar 28 2014, 10:16 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #36
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 28 2014, 10:13 AM) Don't want to explain.... Dah expect from those with muka mintak penumbuk one.
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Cavino	Mar 28 2014, 10:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #37
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 28 2014, 10:16 AM) Dah expect from those with muka mintak penumbuk one. Already expect you will keep mentioning muka mintak penumbuk coz your envy runs deep.... This post has been edited by Cavino: Mar 28 2014, 10:19 AM
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TSFubar20	Mar 28 2014, 10:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #38
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 28 2014, 10:18 AM) Already expect you will keep mentioning muka mintak penumbuk coz your envy runs deep.... I envy when those muka mintak penumbuk does not kena tumbuk in real life.
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Cavino	Mar 28 2014, 10:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #39
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 28 2014, 10:21 AM) I envy when those muka mintak penumbuk does not kena tumbuk in real life. As a matter of fact, I never gotten tumbuk in real life, go on envying..
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lionheart23	Mar 28 2014, 10:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #40
Getting Started Junior Member 103 posts Joined: Oct 2006	wanna ask you all grandmaster, my dashboard got some noise on aircond while driving in the road condition that got many holes or not flat enough, is this normal or need to resolve at sc? is it foc? while flat road, the dashboard is back to silent or not obvious on the aircond plastic sound.............. anyone facing this problem before?
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TSFubar20	Mar 28 2014, 10:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #41
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 28 2014, 10:25 AM) As a matter of fact, I never gotten tumbuk in real life, go on envying.. Very understanding of you. QUOTE(lionheart23 @ Mar 28 2014, 10:30 AM) wanna ask you all grandmaster, my dashboard got some noise on aircond while driving in the road condition that got many holes or not flat enough, is this normal or need to resolve at sc? is it foc? while flat road, the dashboard is back to silent or not obvious on the aircond plastic sound.............. anyone facing this problem before? Come to TT to diagnose. If dashboard no sound then you bought fake Proton already.
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lionheart23	Mar 28 2014, 10:34 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #42
Getting Started Junior Member 103 posts Joined: Oct 2006	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 28 2014, 10:32 AM) Very understanding of you. Come to TT to diagnose. If dashboard no sound then you bought fake Proton already. must be got sound meh? i thought everything is sound proof.................. btw, what mean by TT?
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RaionShen	Mar 28 2014, 10:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #43
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Jun 2012	QUOTE(lionheart23 @ Mar 28 2014, 10:30 AM) wanna ask you all grandmaster, my dashboard got some noise on aircond while driving in the road condition that got many holes or not flat enough, is this normal or need to resolve at sc? is it foc? while flat road, the dashboard is back to silent or not obvious on the aircond plastic sound.............. anyone facing this problem before? that's the rattling sound it makes, the male clip keep hitting the female clip..if you want, u can open it up and put rubber washer in there so no sound..
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TSFubar20	Mar 28 2014, 10:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #44
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(lionheart23 @ Mar 28 2014, 10:34 AM) must be got sound meh? i thought everything is sound proof.................. btw, what mean by TT? This. I put double sided foam to dampen it. TT is Teh Tarik session mentioned in first page. QUOTE(RaionShen @ Mar 28 2014, 10:36 AM) that's the rattling sound it makes, the male clip keep hitting the female clip..if you want, u can open it up and put rubber washer in there so no sound..
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Cavino	Mar 28 2014, 10:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #45
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(lionheart23 @ Mar 28 2014, 10:34 AM) must be got sound meh? i thought everything is sound proof.................. btw, what mean by TT? You're having a delusion you bought a conti kah ??? btw. If you soundproof until cannot hear outside or inside sound, that only means one thing. Go check your ENT doctor, you're deaf. This post has been edited by Cavino: Mar 28 2014, 10:39 AM
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lionheart23	Mar 28 2014, 10:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #46
Getting Started Junior Member 103 posts Joined: Oct 2006	QUOTE(RaionShen @ Mar 28 2014, 10:36 AM) that's the rattling sound it makes, the male clip keep hitting the female clip..if you want, u can open it up and put rubber washer in there so no sound.. no pro enough to do that can you show me the guideline? or i just visit the sc and ask them to do for me?
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RaionShen	Mar 28 2014, 10:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #47
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Jun 2012	can anybody clarify, where is this signs of IAFM kapu-ting soon? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyDL5ONiekU
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lionheart23	Mar 28 2014, 10:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #48
Getting Started Junior Member 103 posts Joined: Oct 2006	QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 28 2014, 10:38 AM) You're having a delusion you bought a conti kah ??? btw. If you soundproof until cannot hear outside or inside sound, that only means one thing. Go check your ENT doctor, you're deaf. civic is soundproof ma
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RaionShen	Mar 28 2014, 10:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #49
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Jun 2012	QUOTE(lionheart23 @ Mar 28 2014, 10:39 AM) no pro enough to do that can you show me the guideline? or i just visit the sc and ask them to do for me? try this lo, most just diy, SC wont bother much. i went sc, they change before, but rattling doesnt go away bro, go acc shop ask them do or diy. below is a link of someone who diy before http://eilarazi.blogspot.com/2012/02/diy-c...bunyi-pada.html
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lionheart23	Mar 28 2014, 10:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #50
Getting Started Junior Member 103 posts Joined: Oct 2006	QUOTE(RaionShen @ Mar 28 2014, 10:42 AM) try this lo, most just diy, SC wont bother much. i went sc, they change before, but rattling doesnt go away bro, go acc shop ask them do or diy. below is a link of someone who diy before http://eilarazi.blogspot.com/2012/02/diy-c...bunyi-pada.html thanks bro, i'll print this out and ask the acc shop to do for me
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Cavino	Mar 28 2014, 10:52 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #51
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(lionheart23 @ Mar 28 2014, 10:40 AM) civic is soundproof ma Soundproof my a$$. Better than PE and City but not that great. Conti's is the one to go for if you want a quiet ride.
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TSFubar20	Mar 28 2014, 11:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #52
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 28 2014, 10:52 AM) Soundproof my a$$. Better than PE and City but not that great. Conti's is the one to go for if you want a quiet ride. City also got some plastic fitting sound inside. Not that superior compare to PE.
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Cavino	Mar 28 2014, 11:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #53
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 28 2014, 11:09 AM) City also got some plastic fitting sound inside. Not that superior compare to PE. Sound proofing superior than even my H-Line, not by much tho. Dashboard same same lar. Its the total insulation package that still beats PE by small margin.
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dinnor	Mar 28 2014, 11:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #54
Getting Started Junior Member 198 posts Joined: Jul 2009	QUOTE Problem 1: Knocking sound when cornering on uneven surface coming from Front RHS Causes: This is due to the power steering fluid delivery piping knocking against the metal pipe and the body underneath it as the uneven road causes it to twitch up and down. OLD Pipe (left) vs New Pipe (right) new SV car could have this problem eh?
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TSFubar20	Mar 28 2014, 11:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #55
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(dinnor @ Mar 28 2014, 11:43 AM) new SV car could have this problem eh? Should not be since 2011.
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dinnor	Mar 28 2014, 11:58 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #56
Getting Started Junior Member 198 posts Joined: Jul 2009	but my SV got knocking sound when left corner, not right corner
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edwin1011	Mar 28 2014, 12:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #57
New Member Junior Member 10 posts Joined: May 2010 From: Serdang	mine dun have~~
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TSFubar20	Mar 28 2014, 12:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #58
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(dinnor @ Mar 28 2014, 11:58 AM) but my SV got knocking sound when left corner, not right corner Then it is another cause lo.
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V12Kompressor	Mar 28 2014, 01:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #59
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	conti car also eek aak eek eek aak here and there la. lol
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zapdos9	Mar 28 2014, 01:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #60
chittychitty bangbang Senior Member 523 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Another Dimensioin	QUOTE(lionheart23 @ Mar 28 2014, 10:39 AM) no pro enough to do that can you show me the guideline? or i just visit the sc and ask them to do for me? SC will just put your car at one side while shaking their legs QUOTE(RaionShen @ Mar 28 2014, 10:39 AM) can anybody clarify, where is this signs of IAFM kapu-ting soon? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyDL5ONiekU Can't hear clearly during rev. Sound macam ada open pod From video seems like IAFM problem but not that severe. Or it could be acc belt. If IAFM problem you should see your FC increase. This post has been edited by zapdos9: Mar 28 2014, 01:38 PM
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lionheart23	Mar 28 2014, 02:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #61
Getting Started Junior Member 103 posts Joined: Oct 2006	QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Mar 28 2014, 01:37 PM) SC will just put your car at one side while shaking their legs Can't hear clearly during rev. Sound macam ada open pod From video seems like IAFM problem but not that severe. Or it could be acc belt. If IAFM problem you should see your FC increase. few of my onlist sc are good, they are car repairing shop but gain the authorized license to service proton cars, so less problem compared to head brunch which just shaking their legs. they drive in my car to service in a very short time once i stated my problem at the counter. also, very good communication compared to head brunch which answering you " saya pun tak tao apa rosak" i gonna drop by the shop again and ask them to diagnostic the problem for me. I will never step into proton head brunch since many are complaining they're sucks at my hometown.
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TDUEnthusiast	Mar 28 2014, 07:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #62
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	Who got free wheel arch cover to give . Still haven't gotten a replacement so far for the front left that broke around the securing point. Recently it started rubbing on the wheels judging from the marks on it.
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zapdos9	Mar 28 2014, 09:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #63
chittychitty bangbang Senior Member 523 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Another Dimensioin	QUOTE(lionheart23 @ Mar 28 2014, 02:12 PM) few of my onlist sc are good, they are car repairing shop but gain the authorized license to service proton cars, so less problem compared to head brunch which just shaking their legs. they drive in my car to service in a very short time once i stated my problem at the counter. also, very good communication compared to head brunch which answering you " saya pun tak tao apa rosak" i gonna drop by the shop again and ask them to diagnostic the problem for me. I will never step into proton head brunch since many are complaining they're sucks at my hometown. Normal service should be okay but asking them to like researching where and how to solve the noise need passion and it is very rare at workshop outside unless you're doing it yourself. Headbranch just like any other workshop. What's good bout them is doing warranty claim which is fast. QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 28 2014, 07:23 PM) Who got free wheel arch cover to give . Still haven't gotten a replacement so far for the front left that broke around the securing point. Recently it started rubbing on the wheels judging from the marks on it. Go buy new one only la or go chop shop find.
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TDUEnthusiast	Mar 28 2014, 09:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #64
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Mar 28 2014, 09:17 PM) Normal service should be okay but asking them to like researching where and how to solve the noise need passion and it is very rare at workshop outside unless you're doing it yourself. Headbranch just like any other workshop. What's good bout them is doing warranty claim which is fast. Go buy new one only la or go chop shop find. Actually tried asking airline if he has any fender cover for the Persona, SMS and PM. No replies at all. I'll go hunting around once I'm free.
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zapdos9	Mar 28 2014, 09:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #65
chittychitty bangbang Senior Member 523 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Another Dimensioin	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 28 2014, 09:18 PM) Actually tried asking airline if he has any fender cover for the Persona, SMS and PM. No replies at all. I'll go hunting around once I'm free. Just asked? Probably outstation or something.
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TDUEnthusiast	Mar 28 2014, 09:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #66
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Mar 28 2014, 09:20 PM) Just asked? Probably outstation or something. Quite a long time ago.. Until now no news.
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zapdos9	Mar 28 2014, 09:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #67
chittychitty bangbang Senior Member 523 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Another Dimensioin	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 28 2014, 09:25 PM) Quite a long time ago.. Until now no news. That's unusual... Normally latest also a day.
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TDUEnthusiast	Mar 28 2014, 10:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #68
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Mar 28 2014, 09:48 PM) That's unusual... Normally latest also a day. Maybe he don't want to deal with beggars
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liette`	Mar 29 2014, 02:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #69
Casual Junior Member 367 posts Joined: Oct 2007	hi guys got a question. planning to change my front brake pads and i called up a SC, they charge rm95 for genuine person front brake pad set. however, i went to protonparts website and i saw the price as rm283. what could cause such huge discrepancy?
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The_FQ400	Mar 29 2014, 01:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #70
New Member Newbie 5 posts Joined: Jun 2011	lotus R&H not found... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
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mushashi87	Mar 29 2014, 02:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #71
Getting Started Junior Member 223 posts Joined: Nov 2008	wow gone awhile than v51 liao @.@
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TDUEnthusiast	Mar 29 2014, 05:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #72
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(liette` @ Mar 29 2014, 02:56 AM) hi guys got a question. planning to change my front brake pads and i called up a SC, they charge rm95 for genuine person front brake pad set. however, i went to protonparts website and i saw the price as rm283. what could cause such huge discrepancy? No idea, but if you're interested to know, you can get better brake pads like the Bendix Metal King Titanium front brake pads for around RM100 ~ RM130 depending on who you're buying it from, and it is better than the stock pads and much needed for those who have a B-Line / M-Line Persona that has a weaker braking system than a H-Line Persona due to one or more downgraded braking component(s). Q: Does Standard Line suffer from the same problem? I assume that for Persona SVs the braking system is pretty much the same with what you get on a H-Line Persona/Elegance. QUOTE(The_FQ400 @ Mar 29 2014, 01:36 PM) lotus R&H not found... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Semua kereta proton memang sampan handling . Anything but Proton . QUOTE(mushashi87 @ Mar 29 2014, 02:11 PM) wow gone awhile than v51 liao @.@ It's very slow compared to about one or two years ago .
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mushashi87	Mar 29 2014, 06:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #73
Getting Started Junior Member 223 posts Joined: Nov 2008	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 29 2014, 05:39 PM) No idea, but if you're interested to know, you can get better brake pads like the Bendix Metal King Titanium front brake pads for around RM100 ~ RM130 depending on who you're buying it from, and it is better than the stock pads and much needed for those who have a B-Line / M-Line Persona that has a weaker braking system than a H-Line Persona due to one or more downgraded braking component(s). Q: Does Standard Line suffer from the same problem? I assume that for Persona SVs the braking system is pretty much the same with what you get on a H-Line Persona/Elegance. Semua kereta proton memang sampan handling . Anything but Proton . It's very slow compared to about one or two years ago . all jump ship to inspila liao
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nickzkuso	Mar 29 2014, 08:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #74
New Member Newbie 10 posts Joined: Jul 2012	silent moment for former ts
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avatar125z	Mar 29 2014, 11:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #75
New Member Newbie 2 posts Joined: Jan 2010	Bros What is width and offset for persona oem 15" sport rim Anybody can help? Thanks
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CarroTT	Mar 30 2014, 12:28 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #76
ms. sunflower Senior Member 1,216 posts Joined: Sep 2006	QUOTE(lionheart23 @ Mar 28 2014, 10:30 AM) wanna ask you all grandmaster, my dashboard got some noise on aircond while driving in the road condition that got many holes or not flat enough, is this normal or need to resolve at sc? is it foc? while flat road, the dashboard is back to silent or not obvious on the aircond plastic sound.............. anyone facing this problem before? In my car its due to loss wires and rattling aircond wind shutter. I twist all the audio wires and sound its gone. Now still have occasional sound from shutter, but I just need to move it a bit and its gone.
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SUSSuper Saiya	Mar 30 2014, 06:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #77
Getting Started Junior Member 280 posts Joined: Feb 2012	future persona sv's owner reporting in to the club. i will take advise from all sifu and master here.
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TSFubar20	Mar 30 2014, 07:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #78
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Mar 30 2014, 06:10 PM) future persona sv's owner reporting in to the club. i will take advise from all sifu and master here. Sifu tarak. All sifus either became farmer or commit suicide liao.
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SUSSuper Saiya	Mar 30 2014, 07:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #79
Getting Started Junior Member 280 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 30 2014, 07:17 PM) Sifu tarak. All sifus either became farmer or commit suicide liao. like previous TS. i will take advise from u new TS
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TSFubar20	Mar 30 2014, 07:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #80
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Super Saiya @ Mar 30 2014, 07:26 PM) like previous TS. i will take advise from u new TS Ayam emergency TS nia. Still looking for SV owner to take over.
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zapdos9	Mar 30 2014, 11:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #81
chittychitty bangbang Senior Member 523 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Another Dimensioin	QUOTE(avatar125z @ Mar 29 2014, 11:33 PM) Bros What is width and offset for persona oem 15" sport rim Anybody can help? Thanks Width is 6.5jj, offset not sure. QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Mar 30 2014, 07:17 PM) Sifu tarak. All sifus either became farmer or commit suicide liao. Farm apa?
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akh2920	Mar 31 2014, 09:49 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #82
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(dinnor @ Mar 28 2014, 11:58 AM) but my SV got knocking sound when left corner, not right corner Seems more like CV joint problem? but unlikely also for a new car
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Cavino	Mar 31 2014, 09:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #83
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 29 2014, 05:39 PM) No idea, but if you're interested to know, you can get better brake pads like the Bendix Metal King Titanium front brake pads for around RM100 ~ RM130 depending on who you're buying it from, and it is better than the stock pads and much needed for those who have a B-Line / M-Line Persona that has a weaker braking system than a H-Line Persona due to one or more downgraded braking component(s). Q: Does Standard Line suffer from the same problem? I assume that for Persona SVs the braking system is pretty much the same with what you get on a H-Line Persona/Elegance. Semua kereta proton memang sampan handling . Anything but Proton . It's very slow compared to about one or two years ago . I tot Proton handling is the best of its class??? Itu accident, driver's problem, brake problem or tyres problem. As for braking system, we still don't if SV is using brake pump similar to 1.6 H-Line or 1.3 saga type.
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TDUEnthusiast	Mar 31 2014, 10:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #84
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 31 2014, 09:54 AM) I tot Proton handling is the best of its class??? Itu accident, driver's problem, brake problem or tyres problem. As for braking system, we still don't if SV is using brake pump similar to 1.6 H-Line or 1.3 saga type. Any car with a Proton badge automatically becomes useless in every way. You don't know?
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Cavino	Mar 31 2014, 10:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #85
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 31 2014, 10:21 AM) Any car with a Proton badge automatically becomes useless in every way. You don't know? But I like ini besi buruk punya handling. Better than Citi and Boss and Chimera anytime...the only department in Proton that they can truly be proud of.
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Unknown86	Mar 31 2014, 11:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #86
New Member Junior Member 4 posts Joined: Jan 2008	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 29 2014, 05:39 PM) No idea, but if you're interested to know, you can get better brake pads like the Bendix Metal King Titanium front brake pads for around RM100 ~ RM130 depending on who you're buying it from, and it is better than the stock pads and much needed for those who have a B-Line / M-Line Persona that has a weaker braking system than a H-Line Persona due to one or more downgraded braking component(s). Hi sifus, does Bendix Metal King Titanium brakes produce a lot of dust compared to ceramics or is it just better than stock brake pads? any specific brand for ceramic brake pad recommended? the stock brake pads really produces a lot of dust... Thanks in advance.
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TDUEnthusiast	Mar 31 2014, 06:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #87
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(Unknown86 @ Mar 31 2014, 11:08 AM) Hi sifus, does Bendix Metal King Titanium brakes produce a lot of dust compared to ceramics or is it just better than stock brake pads? any specific brand for ceramic brake pad recommended? the stock brake pads really produces a lot of dust... Thanks in advance. Bendix MKT does have quite a bit of dust. Off-topic: Lol.. just now go pump petrol also can almost cari masalah . At Bandar Utama there's this shell and petron side by side, and people normally go through the petron station to enter Shell if they want to use their BonusLink card and want to sayang their campro or go in a circle route to reach there. I reached Petron and waited at the exit/entrance of Petron, definitely not blocking anyone and the road either, this passenger in a black vios drove out from Shell, stared at me for as long as I was in view and kept shaking his hand at me, all the while while his friend was busy exiting from the designated entrance to Shell. I mean come on la seriously, this sort of thing also want to blow out of proportion . My DVR could capture the car and the hand gestures but not his face . The guy » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Entrance la tew. If you want to act like you're very law abiding and play the rule book shiat, can: sila prove that you have always do the very basic things of driving like signalling (and correctly as well) all of the time, never tao gai before, never tailgate before ke apa » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Plenty of space for people to pass by.. Dunno what's the issue. Maybe he's trying to encourage me to not pump Shell? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « If I "tao gai" and obstruct people ke susahkan people, can, please shoot me(literally or figuratively up to you), but in this case tiada siapa affected pun except for the dude. This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Mar 31 2014, 06:21 PM
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TDUEnthusiast	Mar 31 2014, 06:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #88
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 31 2014, 10:31 AM) But I like ini besi buruk punya handling. Better than Citi and Boss and Chimera anytime...the only department in Proton that they can truly be proud of. Abang... You cuba stick Proton badge on your Hona see. The handling will be worst than Kancil... Ok.. on a more serious note, I don't really know how it compares against most of the other cars. I just know that driving a Persona is very much to my liking. All I need is better tyres because the current one's sidewall softness memang not syiok at all. This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Mar 31 2014, 06:39 PM
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RaionShen	Mar 31 2014, 06:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #89
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Jun 2012	QUOTE(zapdos9 @ Mar 28 2014, 01:37 PM) Can't hear clearly during rev. Sound macam ada open pod From video seems like IAFM problem but not that severe. Or it could be acc belt. If IAFM problem you should see your FC increase. after ear testing, the sound i coming from the IAFM..,,my FC since i bought has been 9.0L/100km.. went to SC 1st time round, but they said it was characteristics of the car. i was like wtf, characteriestics? so i change SC to Penang one instead of the one from kedah, in hopes that they would clarify and do something about it
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TDUEnthusiast	Mar 31 2014, 06:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #90
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(RaionShen @ Mar 31 2014, 06:45 PM) after ear testing, the sound i coming from the IAFM..,,my FC since i bought has been 9.0L/100km.. went to SC 1st time round, but they said it was characteristics of the car. i was like wtf, characteriestics? so i change SC to Penang one instead of the one from kedah, in hopes that they would clarify and do something about it How did you get those FC figures? What is your driving style and the type of traffic condition that you drive in most of the time? 9.0L/100KM seems kinda normal to me especially if you drive short distances / in the city or town a lot, maybe a slightly higher than the average but nothing to be worried about. I'm also suffering from the IAFM noise symptom since quite some time ago, and I don't see any difference to my fuel consumption nor the performance especially in the low rev range, though maybe it's just me being not sensitive enough.
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RaionShen	Mar 31 2014, 06:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #91
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Jun 2012	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 31 2014, 06:50 PM) How did you get those FC figures? What is your driving style and the type of traffic condition that you drive in most of the time? 9.0L/100KM seems kinda normal to me especially if you drive short distances / in the city or town a lot, maybe a slightly higher than the average but nothing to be worried about. I'm also suffering from the IAFM noise symptom since quite some time ago, and I don't see any difference to my fuel consumption nor the performance especially in the low rev range, though maybe it's just me being not sensitive enough. i drive mostly 10% highway and 90% in town bro...idk about how to see Fc when IAFM giving prob, but one thing i know is got slight soft "tak tak tak" sound coming from it.
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TDUEnthusiast	Mar 31 2014, 06:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #92
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(RaionShen @ Mar 31 2014, 06:52 PM) i drive mostly 10% highway and 90% in town bro...idk about how to see Fc when IAFM giving prob, but one thing i know is got slight soft "tak tak tak" sound coming from it. Turn off everything in your car except the engine, then sit and listen quietly. Is there a knocking sound that seems to be coming from the right side of the dashboard? If yes, it's either the vacuum pump or the IAFM module (as I was told). Otherwise if it isn't, it could be the purge (EGR) valve on the left side of the car that is faulty and needs a replacement. I bought my replacement purge valve for between RM100 ~ RM120. I don't remember the exact price. If it's the IAFM module it costs between RM2xx (read this from somewhere, I think it's the first post of the thread) to RM3xx. I was quoted RM3xx for it from a spare parts shop but I didn't buy cause I thought I solved the problem by changing the purge valve until a few days later when the knocking sound became even louder and more noticeable. Anyway, your FC figure with 90% driving done in town seems pretty normal for the Persona. I always get a meter reading of over 10L/100KM if I reset the meter and do my driving mostly in town. This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Mar 31 2014, 06:59 PM
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RaionShen	Mar 31 2014, 07:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #93
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Jun 2012	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 31 2014, 06:57 PM) Turn off everything in your car except the engine, then sit and listen quietly. Is there a knocking sound that seems to be coming from the right side of the dashboard? If yes, it's either the vacuum pump or the IAFM module (as I was told). Otherwise if it isn't, it could be the purge (EGR) valve on the left side of the car that is faulty and needs a replacement. I bought my replacement purge valve for between RM100 ~ RM120. I don't remember the exact price. If it's the IAFM module it costs between RM2xx (read this from somewhere, I think it's the first post of the thread) to RM3xx. I was quoted RM3xx for it from a spare parts shop but I didn't buy cause I thought I solved the problem by changing the purge valve until a few days later when the knocking sound became even louder and more noticeable. Anyway, your FC figure with 90% driving done in town seems pretty normal for the Persona. I always get a meter reading of over 10L/100KM if I reset the meter and do my driving mostly in town. what i can confirm that, its confirm coming from right hand side. sometimes, as i the rev meter climbing up, the sound of the "tak tak" increases. I'm got my personal fomen to check and he says its fomen.. all i need now is SC to confirm so i can claim since still under warranty. some fellow personians in my hometown says, its not that sever, so no need worry or change. To me, i feel that, its a brand new car that's only 6 months old, and i'm paying monthly, it hurts and annoys when i feel that there is a prob with the car.. sighs i will get to know this Friday lo when go send for checkup BTW, thanks bro for the tips, maybe can ask them check the purge cannister and vacuum pump one time
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TDUEnthusiast	Mar 31 2014, 07:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #94
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(RaionShen @ Mar 31 2014, 07:05 PM) what i can confirm that, its confirm coming from right hand side. sometimes, as i the rev meter climbing up, the sound of the "tak tak" increases. I'm got my personal fomen to check and he says its fomen.. all i need now is SC to confirm so i can claim since still under warranty. some fellow personians in my hometown says, its not that sever, so no need worry or change. To me, i feel that, its a brand new car that's only 6 months old, and i'm paying monthly, it hurts and annoys when i feel that there is a prob with the car.. sighs i will get to know this Friday lo when go send for checkup BTW, thanks bro for the tips, maybe can ask them check the purge cannister and vacuum pump one time I see. Push for the warranty claim if so. If you still cannot claim, maybe try sending a message to Proton on facebook / we care i care ke apa to see if you can get resolved. This is a pretty well known issue (at least to Persona owners, mostly) so I don't see why should you be denied any replacement.
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RaionShen	Mar 31 2014, 07:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #95
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Jun 2012	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 31 2014, 07:13 PM) I see. Push for the warranty claim if so. If you still cannot claim, maybe try sending a message to Proton on facebook / we care i care ke apa to see if you can get resolved. This is a pretty well known issue (at least to Persona owners, mostly) so I don't see why should you be denied any replacement. thanks bro. one more, about proton SC. Proton Edar and Proton Eon centres, are they similar? can i claim warranty from either?
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TDUEnthusiast	Mar 31 2014, 07:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #96
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(RaionShen @ Mar 31 2014, 07:16 PM) thanks bro. one more, about proton SC. Proton Edar and Proton Eon centres, are they similar? can i claim warranty from either? Hmmm. Not very clear about it, sorry. But I believe as long as it's an authorised service center/ Proton service center it can be done.
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RaionShen	Mar 31 2014, 07:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #97
New Member Junior Member 6 posts Joined: Jun 2012	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 31 2014, 07:21 PM) Hmmm. Not very clear about it, sorry. But I believe as long as it's an authorised service center/ Proton service center it can be done. then i guess its ok..coz both also authorised i think
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zapdos9	Mar 31 2014, 07:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #98
chittychitty bangbang Senior Member 523 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Another Dimensioin	QUOTE(RaionShen @ Mar 31 2014, 06:45 PM) after ear testing, the sound i coming from the IAFM..,,my FC since i bought has been 9.0L/100km.. went to SC 1st time round, but they said it was characteristics of the car. i was like wtf, characteriestics? so i change SC to Penang one instead of the one from kedah, in hopes that they would clarify and do something about it It is very hard to pinpoint the sound from the IAFM with it in the engine bay and acoustic reflecting around. Your FC still okay. If mine is already 10-11L To hear whether is it IAFM must from the revving itself but from you vid it doesn't seems so. There are few other noise which could be similar to the IAFM sound and usually ppl mistaken with it with the IAFM break phobia. Other causes probably either the acc belt or the hydraulic lifter itself from using thinner lube. A serious IAFM issue's sound is very prominent and distinctive but from yours not so.
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iskazulka	Apr 1 2014, 08:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #99
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	hope this explain. taken from saga thread. somebody can re-edit for suitable persona perhaps? QUOTE(davidke20 @ Nov 12 2012, 08:27 AM) From what I'm looking at, your car does not have an external fuel regulator at the fuel rail, it's an FLX. It is IAFM+, not IAFM. According to some senior member, IAFM+ were made stronger compare to old IAFM module that always picah IAFM rosak render the sound "tub tub tub tub tub" from the right side of the intake manifold, where the PURGE VALVE located. 0_S5AgNnrXs The same car as above, after repaired the rosaked IAFM, only rendered the similar tepet sound like minor "tak tak tak tak tak" sound on the rocker cover. v=FP3R2RseIqE A more effective way you can identify is: 1) If can hear loud tak tak tak tak tak sound, at this point means the exhaust valve lifter bising, go claim warranty 2) If can hear loud tak tak tak tak tak sound, at this point means the intake valve lifter bising, go claim warranty 3) If can hear loud tub tub tub tub tub sound, at this point means the purge valve sudah koyak, go claim warranty However, for 1 & 2 is insignificant. Replace or not replace does not really helps to eliminate the noise, its just the way how hydraulic valve lifter works. When enough lubricants, no noise. When not enough lubricant, especially cold start, aircon compressor kicks in, these are the time most car will have loud valve lifter noise. If you think your car is loud, try those Honda B16/B18 series engine, also not forget Plotong Pugra & Wigra 1.8 with 4G93 engine, their valve lifter is much louder than most yellow black diesel taxi. Added on November 12, 2012, 9:42 amP/s: if you use the screwdriver method to troubleshoot, make sure you have not wear any extra accessories such as necklace, necktie, long sleeve. If you're long hair, make sure you tie it up properly. The method itself is safe to use, but those extra accessories become life threatening if screwed up. Besides, you probably don't wanto dirty yourself with those things hanging around touches your engine bay. be safe This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 1 2014, 08:48 AM
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iskazulka	Apr 1 2014, 08:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #100
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	this is why we say X1R is a crap. QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 31 2014, 06:56 PM) Avoid X1R.
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Cavino	Apr 1 2014, 09:53 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #101
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 1 2014, 08:46 AM) this is why we say X1R is a crap. There are always some ppl who will attest to "smoothen" engine and performance of various snake oil. The worst fear of engine oil becoming sludge seems to appear for X1R, an "authorised" snake oil that was added due to political and cronyism in Proton. Other established manufacturers always recommended NOT to any performance boosters as they have no way of knowing what chemical reaction of the additional oil will do the any attested and balanced engine oil. Sludging and engine miniscule damage are the worst case scenarios of these oils. It seems Proton has officially approved the usage of such oil without thorough research as do other established car manufacturer.
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TSFubar20	Apr 1 2014, 10:42 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #102
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(mengsuan @ Mar 31 2014, 05:56 PM) Avoid X1R. QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 1 2014, 09:53 AM) There are always some ppl who will attest to "smoothen" engine and performance of various snake oil. The worst fear of engine oil becoming sludge seems to appear for X1R, an "authorised" snake oil that was added due to political and cronyism in Proton. Other established manufacturers always recommended NOT to any performance boosters as they have no way of knowing what chemical reaction of the additional oil will do the any attested and balanced engine oil. Sludging and engine miniscule damage are the worst case scenarios of these oils. It seems Proton has officially approved the usage of such oil without thorough research as do other established car manufacturer. This.
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ngeo88	Apr 1 2014, 05:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #103
New Member Junior Member 48 posts Joined: Nov 2009	i'm waiting they announce the Magnacrap problem same like X1R. but if this spread to media sure X1R will give respond of Proton design problem not the oil treatment problem. This post has been edited by ngeo88: Apr 1 2014, 05:42 PM
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Cavino	Apr 1 2014, 05:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #104
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Apr 1 2014, 05:42 PM) i'm waiting they announce the Magnacrap problem same like X1R. but if this spread to media sure X1R will give respond of Proton design problem not the oil treatment problem. That means Proton have to design the engine to auto-desludge so that it works with X1R. X1R will volunteer to pay for the re-design cost.
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Cavino	Apr 1 2014, 05:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #105
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Apr 1 2014, 05:42 PM) i'm waiting they announce the Magnacrap problem same like X1R. but if this spread to media sure X1R will give respond of Proton design problem not the oil treatment problem. I think magna crap no side effect wan, only plain useless. Put there for show so that it can show a bit of metal sticking in the filter. But then again, without magnacrap, it will still stuck in the filter. This post has been edited by Cavino: Apr 1 2014, 05:51 PM
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 1 2014, 05:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #106
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	[Lelong] Power window bracket w/ triangle style motor legs or something Power window bracket rosak today for the rear left passenger window. Bought two brackets cause the first one is not the right one for my car.
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TSFubar20	Apr 1 2014, 05:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #107
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 1 2014, 05:50 PM) I think magna crap no side effect wan, only plain useless. Put there for show so that it can show a bit of metal sticking in the filter. But then again, without magnacrap, it will still stuck in the filter. It will stick more to the side where there is magnet.
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voscar	Apr 1 2014, 05:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #108
Regular Senior Member 1,525 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 1 2014, 08:46 AM) this is why we say X1R is a crap. where you found this? i wanna see full thread... member search feature seems not working.
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Unknown86	Apr 1 2014, 11:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #109
New Member Junior Member 4 posts Joined: Jan 2008	How about octane booster? seen quite a few shopping complex sell those tablets (dynatab if i m not mistaken) or liquid booster that add in to fuel tank... Any comment?
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iskazulka	Apr 2 2014, 08:22 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #110
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(voscar @ Apr 1 2014, 06:58 PM) where you found this? i wanna see full thread... member search feature seems not working. your friend mengsuan post that in preve thread. https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry67253334 This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 2 2014, 08:22 AM
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iskazulka	Apr 2 2014, 08:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #111
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Unknown86 @ Apr 2 2014, 12:13 AM) How about octane booster? seen quite a few shopping complex sell those tablets (dynatab if i m not mistaken) or liquid booster that add in to fuel tank... Any comment? after you witness that, do you still wanna to put any addictive inside your engine?
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iskazulka	Apr 2 2014, 08:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #112
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jul 9 2013, 09:40 PM) Engine oil talk Fubar20 TitanRev I know you guys have your idea on how motor oil benefit the car. Here's my piece to chip in despite I'm not particular and have very little knowledge on engine oil. I've been driving several years, changing engine oil almost every 3 month, sometimes twice when I hit 3000 miles too soon. Due to cost of motor oil start increasing, I found I'm paying more and more on the vehicle maintenance, so I start to dig more info from magician. Helping to overhaul engine benefit the most in terms of technical knowledge and understand how motor oil affect engine performance. Rule of thumb, buy engine oil with API stamp. Here's a link, please download and print a copy put inside your car. The next time when you wanna purchase motor oil, make sure you read the ratings whether its SN/SJ/SM/SL. http://www.api.org/certifications/engineoi...2010_120210.pdf With API ratings, you'll get an idea how these engine oil comply to your power unit. Your motor vehicle rely on the chemical inside the motor oil to survive friction. The viscosity only meant very little, but the API rating worth the most. Hence, when you use cap ayam motor oil, despite they put down 10w60, that does not mean the molecule can stand your car's 10.1:1 compressrion ratio with 400'c extreme heat during the ignition. Be it 10w100, it doesn't make any difference when the oil being channeled into the combustion chamber. However, don't take my word as a whole. The viscosity does yield it's importance. For instance 10w40 multi-visco simply means 10 comes suffixed with W, meaning WINTER(not weight/watt as claim by others) for cold start viscosity. The 40 after W is hot viscosity. The front winter denote has lower figure, meaning the liquid has lower "beku" point. Sorry ran out of vocabulary. The hot visco higher denote a higher boiling point. You don't want oil to boil, just like your mommy cooking in the kitchen. I've seen many horrible incident's while helping customer to do engine overhauling. Unsurprisingly, most of them having problem with their motor, they tend to miss their oil change quite often, sometimes up to few years did not change oil at all. Before dismantle an engine for overhaul, as I loosen the oil sum nut, I'll be extremely careful to not let oil spill on my hand. These burnt oil can irritate my skin and cause allergy. However, most of the time after the sum nut being pull off, there aren't any oil drip out. Even if there is, very little and very thick. Got once we unable to drain anything out from the sum, because those oil already turned grease. Can imagine how not to jammed the pistons? Thinner hot viscosity oil does not mean you have less chance building up sludge, infact it's the opposite. Otften I ask magician why not fully synthetic as those expansive oil usually added cleaning agent, can last up to 6000 miles. The answer is simple, recycle the same oil in the engine can only make those oil turn into sludge. Debris and dirt to have more opportunity to form a bigger object between molecule, hence sludge start to build. I used to worship 76 racing motor oil 10w40 for NASCAR, until my car start to emit white smoke and finally ended up with a full overhaul. Again, I did the overhaul by myself with assistance of magician to find that not much sludge built up, but the piston ring has been fully grounded off. Lesson learned as magician explain, usually racing motor oil does meant for racing. Those oil wouldn't last more than few thousand miles as it degrade faster than normal oil from the market. The dangerous part is, motor oil should form a film of coating on engine parts, but the degraded oil does not. It will be fully drained to the sump. Believe it or not, your engine life were shorten each time you crank start it, not when you taking it to the redline(provided the redline figure is properly balanced on your crankcase). From the above little knowledge I gained from magician, I've been practicing frequent oil change. For your information, VTEC oil is rated SAE10w30 have no problem running at 8krpm. QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Mar 31 2014, 07:03 PM) See, reason why X1R has to be avoided. In undocumented cases, cars running on NGV (BLM taxi primarily) also suffers from heavy sludge build up after using X1R. Terrible sludge edi build up in turbocharged engine, i wonder how it works in the "NASA rocket" as their advertisement claimed. sludge in result have to do engine overhaul. This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 2 2014, 08:28 AM
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iskazulka	Apr 2 2014, 08:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #113
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 1 2014, 12:00 PM) for NA engine it is still OK. But better just avoid it all together. for CFE engine, since it is turbocharged, the temperature inside gets hotter than usual NA engine, hence the heat accelerated the breakdown of X1R and that turns into massive pile of sludge.
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armadasaxon	Apr 2 2014, 10:59 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #114
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Mar 31 2014, 06:50 PM) How did you get those FC figures? What is your driving style and the type of traffic condition that you drive in most of the time? 9.0L/100KM seems kinda normal to me especially if you drive short distances / in the city or town a lot, maybe a slightly higher than the average but nothing to be worried about. I'm also suffering from the IAFM noise symptom since quite some time ago, and I don't see any difference to my fuel consumption nor the performance especially in the low rev range, though maybe it's just me being not sensitive enough. 9l/100km no good?...U haven't seen mine..13l/100km..
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MrOne	Apr 2 2014, 11:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #115
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Jan 2003	anyone know where got buy persona accessories?
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TSFubar20	Apr 2 2014, 12:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #116
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(MrOne @ Apr 2 2014, 11:31 AM) anyone know where got buy persona accessories? Accessories shop aka Kedai Abang.
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voscar	Apr 2 2014, 12:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #117
Regular Senior Member 1,525 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 2 2014, 08:22 AM) your friend mengsuan post that in preve thread. https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...&#entry67253334 thanks for sharing, great to read such informative article. seems turbocharged vehicle needs great engine oil to cope with higher temperature, i guess i would not touch turbo car in near soon as i can only afford to use cheap mineral/semi-syn oil. if need performance car i will go for old junkie v6/i6, the engine note is irresistible.
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armadasaxon	Apr 2 2014, 12:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #118
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	I checked my service list,there is 1 item called high pressure fuel.. Anyone knows what is that?
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 2 2014, 06:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #119
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 2 2014, 12:37 PM) I checked my service list,there is 1 item called high pressure fuel.. Anyone knows what is that? The fuel filter? It's some metal shaped like an oil filter but with small tubes leading out at each end. It's located under the rear right of the car and is suggested by Proton to be replaced every 60,000KM.
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SoccerIsMyLife86	Apr 2 2014, 07:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #120
New Member Newbie 0 posts Joined: Mar 2014	Today while I was driving, the right passenger door opened itself. WTF!!! Scary shit man! Luckily not midnight. If not I sure posting this on a hospital bed already. Still very happy with SV though. Yesterday tried to go full pedal to the metal and love the performance of the car.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 2 2014, 08:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #121
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(SoccerIsMyLife86 @ Apr 2 2014, 07:53 PM) Today while I was driving, the right passenger door opened itself. WTF!!! Scary shit man! Luckily not midnight. If not I sure posting this on a hospital bed already. Still very happy with SV though. Yesterday tried to go full pedal to the metal and love the performance of the car. What? "Jangan buat kerata kalau tak boleh" - Mr Chin. I would suggest that you add some engine oil additives like the Ceratec, and maybe the NanoTech powder thing (I haven't tried this one), and maybe change to some oil that allows for smooth revving. Maybe change the ATF (if you're driving an Auto) too to some premium fluid. I think you will like it even better. Everything feels very smooth now especially when it's accelerating. The loudness is still there though from revving over 4K RPM, but much more reduced compared to last time.
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Ips3Ds	Apr 2 2014, 10:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #122
Getting Started Junior Member 100 posts Joined: Apr 2012	What's happen to former TS?
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 2 2014, 10:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #123
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(Ips3Ds @ Apr 2 2014, 10:16 PM) What's happen to former TS? Part of MH370...
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davidlow7	Apr 2 2014, 10:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #124
StageMaster Senior Member 8,306 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Puchong Melaka Cyberjaya	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 2 2014, 10:36 PM) Part of MH370... Sure or not? edited: fake This post has been edited by davidlow7: Apr 2 2014, 10:57 PM
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 2 2014, 11:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #125
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Apr 2 2014, 10:56 PM) Sure or not? edited: fake Yes, fake.. His Persona's gearbox rosak, now dunno what's the latest news. Maybe now driving the sports car Myvi or the super car Vios.
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jasonloh7906	Apr 3 2014, 01:28 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #126
New Member Newbie 2 posts Joined: Nov 2010	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 2 2014, 11:39 PM) Yes, fake.. His Persona's gearbox rosak, now dunno what's the latest news. Maybe now driving the sports car Myvi or the super car Vios. due to some oil. having similiar problem. but mine not as serious as his. dunno why. haha. therefore it is not recommended to use other atf. better stick back to our proton or petronas.
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jasonloh7906	Apr 3 2014, 01:31 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #127
New Member Newbie 2 posts Joined: Nov 2010	QUOTE(Cavino @ Mar 31 2014, 10:31 AM) But I like ini besi buruk punya handling. Better than Citi and Boss and Chimera anytime...the only department in Proton that they can truly be proud of. only handling wor. nothing else edi. suggest the new TS to update a bit on the first page info. too old info. hahaha.
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jasonloh7906	Apr 3 2014, 02:30 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #128
New Member Newbie 2 posts Joined: Nov 2010	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Dec 28 2013, 12:15 AM) Purposely very lightfoot isit? yah need few tanks to verify Not so sure...will help u ask.shud b at the pan area... i think this is very wrong for replying after so.............long. hmm, the previous fc yes, i am very very very super light foot because very scared of the damage i cause if i heavy foot. but my trip is much lesser now. I do feel the car not getting the low end torque in 4th gear like it have last time. but otherwise is still good. which means my city driving actually not that affected. just that I am a frequent highway. now I had to dump my persona at home. Satu minggu jalan dua hari coz I dun have additional budget to spend on to repair the car or to change car now. Thx god I am blessed, I am given a toyota to drive now. So this solve a lot of my problem. Btw, you may look at my fc figures, its not that badly damaged I assume. maybe just a bit. Thanks for telling me about it if not I think I will still be driving with it and damaging my gearbox further. I am changing my oil again soon even though it only run less than 10k km. I will see if there is any abnormal color or sludge by then. This post has been edited by jasonloh7906: Apr 3 2014, 02:43 AM
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TSFubar20	Apr 3 2014, 08:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #129
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 2 2014, 10:36 PM) Part of MH370... QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 3 2014, 01:31 AM) suggest the new TS to update a bit on the first page info. too old info. hahaha. Update apa wo? Inb4 I close this thread and pass to you.
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wenco	Apr 3 2014, 09:18 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #130
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: May 2011	Hi Bro , Here how it happen on my Day 3 persona SV. I was parking at the road side n getting off my car for a quick smoke . The weather at the moment is raining . I notice there was mist( water leak in) caught inside my headlamp ( passenger side) , the other one is ok (driver side). So damn first of thought , this is abnormal for a new car man.if it is normal , it should be happen on both of the headlight under same condition , environment . Right ?! At the moment , I not yet turn on the light yet.( late evening) The mist gone while I finally reach home , light on for 2 hours under small rain during night time while driven home. This really piss me off . Shock me n drain my new car mood Mind to share if any of you have this experience on yr persona previously ?? Pls guide me how to make a complain to which branch SC(KL area) to get this problem solved. Other minor problem detected , - Stock viper didn't vipe evenly ( not expecting much ) - dusty stock brake pad, noisy brake sound at low speed. -light vibrating during low speed - typical heavy car handle , and door hardly closed when push. - some noise on the radio transmit( hopefully , not antenna wiring problem)
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TSFubar20	Apr 3 2014, 09:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #131
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(wenco @ Apr 3 2014, 09:18 AM) Hi Bro , Here how it happen on my Day 3 persona SV. I was parking at the road side n getting off my car for a quick smoke . The weather at the moment is raining . I notice there was mist( water leak in) caught inside my headlamp ( passenger side) , the other one is ok (driver side). So damn first of thought , this is abnormal for a new car man.if it is normal , it should be happen on both of the headlight under same condition , environment . Right ?! At the moment , I not yet turn on the light yet.( late evening) The mist gone while I finally reach home , light on for 2 hours under small rain during night time while driven home. This really piss me off . Shock me n drain my new car mood Mind to share if any of you have this experience on yr persona previously ?? Pls guide me how to make a complain to which branch SC(KL area) to get this problem solved. Other minor problem detected , - Stock viper didn't vipe evenly ( not expecting much ) - dusty stock brake pad, noisy brake sound at low speed. -light vibrating during low speed - typical heavy car handle , and door hardly closed when push. - some noise on the radio transmit( hopefully , not antenna wiring problem) Quite hard to proof unless it happen when you spray some water on it. Just give them a call and ask for advice. Other minor thing are just normal. Either change the part (wiper, brake pads) or live with it.
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Cavino	Apr 3 2014, 10:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #132
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 2 2014, 08:39 PM) What? "Jangan buat kerata kalau tak boleh" - Mr Chin. I would suggest that you add some engine oil additives like the Ceratec, and maybe the NanoTech powder thing (I haven't tried this one), and maybe change to some oil that allows for smooth revving. Maybe change the ATF (if you're driving an Auto) too to some premium fluid. I think you will like it even better. Everything feels very smooth now especially when it's accelerating. The loudness is still there though from revving over 4K RPM, but much more reduced compared to last time. You still suggest ppl to add 3rd party addictives to engine oil kah? If addictives is powder based, even worse, coz that means solvent or not, the powder might form sludge later on. Although I heard ceratec works, its long term effect on engine is still unknown. I would rather the owner change to a better quality engine oil rather than add any 3rd party addictives.
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kausar	Apr 3 2014, 10:40 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #133
On my way Junior Member 608 posts Joined: Jul 2009	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2014, 10:35 AM) You still suggest ppl to add 3rd party addictives to engine oil kah? If addictives is powder based, even worse, coz that means solvent or not, the powder might form sludge later on. Although I heard ceratec works, its long term effect on engine is still unknown. I would rather the owner change to a better quality engine oil rather than add any 3rd party addictives. proton note that all cfe cannot use x1r anymore becoz will build up sludge. how about normal iafm campro? This post has been edited by kausar: Apr 3 2014, 10:40 AM
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armadasaxon	Apr 3 2014, 10:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #134
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	I really love to c those ppl say proton how good ..later buy this car,proton good,but problem no good.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 3 2014, 10:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #135
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(wenco @ Apr 3 2014, 09:18 AM) Hi Bro , Here how it happen on my Day 3 persona SV. I was parking at the road side n getting off my car for a quick smoke . The weather at the moment is raining . I notice there was mist( water leak in) caught inside my headlamp ( passenger side) , the other one is ok (driver side). So damn first of thought , this is abnormal for a new car man.if it is normal , it should be happen on both of the headlight under same condition , environment . Right ?! At the moment , I not yet turn on the light yet.( late evening) The mist gone while I finally reach home , light on for 2 hours under small rain during night time while driven home. This really piss me off . Shock me n drain my new car mood Mind to share if any of you have this experience on yr persona previously ?? Pls guide me how to make a complain to which branch SC(KL area) to get this problem solved. Other minor problem detected , - Stock viper didn't vipe evenly ( not expecting much ) - dusty stock brake pad, noisy brake sound at low speed. -light vibrating during low speed - typical heavy car handle , and door hardly closed when push. - some noise on the radio transmit( hopefully , not antenna wiring problem) Claim Claim Claim Ask for advise. Light vibrating? How? Where? Whole car? Ask any SC to readjust the door. Go to Proton's Centre of Excellence to make all the claims. I believe they should honor all the claims above since your car is still new. If not maybe make noise on Proton's facebook page like some guy in this forum until they decide to help you. QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2014, 10:35 AM) You still suggest ppl to add 3rd party addictives to engine oil kah? If addictives is powder based, even worse, coz that means solvent or not, the powder might form sludge later on. Although I heard ceratec works, its long term effect on engine is still unknown. I would rather the owner change to a better quality engine oil rather than add any 3rd party addictives. Dunno. I guess I will know when the anjing jam one day. This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Apr 3 2014, 10:58 AM
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Cavino	Apr 3 2014, 10:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #136
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(kausar @ Apr 3 2014, 10:40 AM) proton note that all cfe cannot use x1r anymore becoz will build up sludge. how about normal iafm campro? You mean you still considering an addictive that are already proven to cause sludge. Although the turbo runs at higher temp, it is not very much higher than our high speed ride as the temp generated is still a daily non racing engine temp. A good engine semi can withstand that temp without sludging but this addictive cannot, still want to trust it? This post has been edited by Cavino: Apr 3 2014, 10:58 AM
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TSFubar20	Apr 3 2014, 11:06 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #137
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 3 2014, 10:55 AM) Claim Claim Claim Ask for advise. Light vibrating? How? Where? Whole car? Ask any SC to readjust the door. Go to Proton's Centre of Excellence to make all the claims. I believe they should honor all the claims above since your car is still new. If not maybe make noise on Proton's facebook page like some guy in this forum until they decide to help you. Dunno. I guess I will know when the anjing jam one day. Cheapo wipers pun nak claim meh? Not even 200++ wipers that make people wanna change car. Stock brake pads is con9lan7firm is always dusty one. Claim non dust mia kah?
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 3 2014, 11:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #138
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 3 2014, 11:06 AM) Cheapo wipers pun nak claim meh? Not even 200++ wipers that make people wanna change car. Stock brake pads is con9lan7firm is always dusty one. Claim non dust mia kah? Dusty is one thing, but noise? If it's the guk ngmm mm ahh noise when coming to a stop, that is normal.. at least it is for mine . For the high pitch noise though, it shouldn't be like that
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Cavino	Apr 3 2014, 11:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #139
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	Can any owner check where this 2nd clear tube outlet from the radiator water reserve container goes to? Is it going directly out to the ground floor as nothing is connected at the end of the clear tube? Found the clear tube end facing towards the metal comp of the car after car repair. Adjusted the tube to face directly down towards the ground if waters comes out of it. Is it correct? Attached thumbnail(s)
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Cavino	Apr 3 2014, 11:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #140
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	Found this blue round thingy with lots of wiring going thru besides the fuse box exposed like that, the wiring going in is not wrap or seal, is that normal? Attached thumbnail(s)
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TSFubar20	Apr 3 2014, 11:14 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #141
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 3 2014, 11:10 AM) Dusty is one thing, but noise? If it's the guk ngmm mm ahh noise when coming to a stop, that is normal.. at least it is for mine . For the high pitch noise though, it shouldn't be like that Apa ini noise? I dunno. QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2014, 11:11 AM) Can any owner check where this 2nd clear tube outlet from the radiator water reserve container goes to? Is it going directly out to the ground floor as nothing is connected at the end of the clear tube? Found the clear tube end facing towards the metal comp of the car after car repair. Adjusted the tube to face directly down towards the ground if waters comes out of it. Is it correct? Should be this one. For overflow purpose from the container.
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armadasaxon	Apr 3 2014, 11:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #142
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	QUOTE(wenco @ Apr 3 2014, 09:18 AM) Hi Bro , Here how it happen on my Day 3 persona SV. I was parking at the road side n getting off my car for a quick smoke . The weather at the moment is raining . I notice there was mist( water leak in) caught inside my headlamp ( passenger side) , the other one is ok (driver side). So damn first of thought , this is abnormal for a new car man.if it is normal , it should be happen on both of the headlight under same condition , environment . Right ?! At the moment , I not yet turn on the light yet.( late evening) The mist gone while I finally reach home , light on for 2 hours under small rain during night time while driven home. This really piss me off . Shock me n drain my new car mood Mind to share if any of you have this experience on yr persona previously ?? Pls guide me how to make a complain to which branch SC(KL area) to get this problem solved. Other minor problem detected , - Stock viper didn't vipe evenly ( not expecting much ) - juz go buy another at rm40,they leave under hot sun n rain,sure lidat - dusty stock brake pad, noisy brake sound at low speed. - u pads haven't blend it -light vibrating during low speed - vibrate where?aircon,steering,dashboard,driver seat - typical heavy car handle , and door hardly closed when push. - ask sc they will tighten the lock - some noise on the radio transmit( hopefully , not antenna wiring problem) - report sc Hello,ini bukan bmw..expect more noise to come.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 3 2014, 11:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #143
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2014, 11:11 AM) Can any owner check where this 2nd clear tube outlet from the radiator water reserve container goes to? Is it going directly out to the ground floor as nothing is connected at the end of the clear tube? Found the clear tube end facing towards the metal comp of the car after car repair. Adjusted the tube to face directly down towards the ground if waters comes out of it. Is it correct? Both looks normal to me. The plug for mine with a lot of wires going out of it is located much lower than that though, but if I remember correctly it's also not covered by any tape or anything.
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Cavino	Apr 3 2014, 11:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #144
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 3 2014, 11:14 AM) Apa ini noise? I dunno. Should be this one. For overflow purpose from the container. Thanks suspected that. When the car come back the end of the clear tube are facing into the side metal components, meaning if water comes out, it will flow into the car body instead. I have to adjust it myself back to the current position.
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Cavino	Apr 3 2014, 11:55 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #145
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 3 2014, 11:46 AM) Both looks normal to me. The plug for mine with a lot of wires going out of it is located much lower than that though, but if I remember correctly it's also not covered by any tape or anything. Ok. thanks. I've been wondering coz I saw the rubber around the blue thingy. Tot this thing are plug into somewhere with the black rubber around the blue thingy acting as seal.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 3 2014, 12:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #146
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 3 2014, 11:36 AM) Hello,ini bukan bmw..expect more noise to come. To be honest, there isn't really much noise issues in mine to begin with. There are three different noise sources that plagues my car at the moment, but out of three only one of them occurs as long as the air-cond is on, and it's the mid right vent that goes kring-kring softly at certain positions. The other two occasional noise are the brake pedal klok-klok over uneven surface like the ramps at car-parks, and the board that holds the rear speakers that goes "rrrrrrrr" when the weather is cold outside. QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2014, 11:55 AM) Ok. thanks. I've been wondering coz I saw the rubber around the blue thingy. Tot this thing are plug into somewhere with the black rubber around the blue thingy acting as seal. I see. Dunno. Maybe mine is also supposed to be plugged into some seal . I don't really know the history of my car. This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Apr 3 2014, 12:00 PM
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Cavino	Apr 3 2014, 12:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #147
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	Total cost of the car repair is abt RM2.5k including bonnet, bumper, grill, radiator and components, along with both headlamp (not even scratch but kaki patah, so replaced full set, shiny and clear...haha). They have to replace the front skirt themselves as they damage it while towing (I've insisted replacement coz it shows miniscule hairline crack). Overall, the paint of bonnet ok but the bumper not totally smooth on certain area. Check my LCP, VS and GC still there. Those rubbers around the bonnet and insulator still there. They wash my car before I take, so seems ok. RM2.5 + appx BMW's RM2K or more, ok...worth to burn my 55% NCD. If below 3K, I "sit tai pun" on the NCD. Now just hope the new original radiator performing without leaking. This post has been edited by Cavino: Apr 3 2014, 12:03 PM
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Cavino	Apr 3 2014, 12:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #148
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 3 2014, 12:00 PM) I see. Dunno. Maybe mine is also supposed to be plugged into some seal . I don't really know the history of my car. Ooi, macam ini, can anyone with newer PE check or not...
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 3 2014, 12:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #149
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2014, 12:01 PM) Total cost of the car repair is abt RM2.5k including bonnet, bumper, grill, radiator and components, along with both headlamp (not even scratch but kaki patah, so replaced full set, shiny and clear...haha). They have to replace the front skirt themselves as they damage it while towing (I've insisted replacement coz it shows miniscule hairline crack). Overall, the paint of bonnet ok but the bumper not totally smooth on certain area. Check my LCP, VS and GC still there. Those rubbers around the bonnet and insulator still there. They wash my car before I take, so seems ok. RM2.5 + appx BMW's RM2K or more, ok...worth to burn my 55% NCD. If below 3K, I "sit tai pun" on the NCD. Now just hope the new original radiator performing without leaking. Confirm original parts? Radiator water apa jenis? Pipe?
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TSFubar20	Apr 3 2014, 12:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #150
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2014, 12:02 PM) Ooi, macam ini, can anyone with newer PE check or not... Dia mia besi lama buruk mah.
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armadasaxon	Apr 3 2014, 12:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #151
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 3 2014, 12:00 PM) To be honest, there isn't really much noise issues in mine to begin with. There are three different noise sources that plagues my car at the moment, but out of three only one of them occurs as long as the air-cond is on, and it's the mid right vent that goes kring-kring softly at certain positions. The other two occasional noise are the brake pedal klok-klok over uneven surface like the ramps at car-parks, and the board that holds the rear speakers that goes "rrrrrrrr" when the weather is cold outside. I see. Dunno. Maybe mine is also supposed to be plugged into some seal . I don't really know the history of my car. LOL..I got the first 2 problems..brake pedal klok klok sound like wanna patah lidat..and the aircon sound that is common..have to change the belt tensioner..like grasshopper sound.. BTW,my boot does not open smoothly anymore..What oil or grease to smoothen the opening ah?
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Cavino	Apr 3 2014, 12:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #152
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 3 2014, 12:04 PM) Confirm original parts? Radiator water apa jenis? Pipe? Err....don't know. Assume original coz insurance says have to within 5 years and the workshop is really huge with a hundred or so repair cars from Mercedes to Nissan sunny. Specialize only in insurance repair and panel for all insurances (since that is their only business). Frankly, if not original also I don't know coz I really can't see where the brand is printed in the old and new radiator. Itu water, I don't think original. You go check pipe to see original meh....only concern the big item. This post has been edited by Cavino: Apr 3 2014, 12:17 PM
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armadasaxon	Apr 3 2014, 12:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #153
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	the workshop markup the price punya geh.
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Cavino	Apr 3 2014, 12:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #154
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 3 2014, 12:17 PM) the workshop markup the price punya geh. Ya lar...its listed RM2800. I estimated appx RM2K or so if do outside. Abt RM2K more for BMW side, so abt break even with my NCD discount over 5 years period.
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ngeo88	Apr 3 2014, 01:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #155
New Member Junior Member 48 posts Joined: Nov 2009	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2014, 12:31 PM) Ya lar...its listed RM2800. I estimated appx RM2K or so if do outside. Abt RM2K more for BMW side, so abt break even with my NCD discount over 5 years period. actual cost only 1k plus i guest, because in know beside they declare 2.5k to insurance company, and they also claim Max for others claim include the fees suppose to pay to owner for replacement transport during the car in repair. Why u not choose send back to Edar SC or COE ?
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RuL3s	Apr 3 2014, 02:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #156
New Member Junior Member 39 posts Joined: Dec 2009	Actually some modification to the car, not those heavy mod but like chassis foam, soundproofing, etc. Will these modification affects the values of your car when you want to trade/sell one day?
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Cavino	Apr 3 2014, 02:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #157
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Apr 3 2014, 01:16 PM) actual cost only 1k plus i guest, because in know beside they declare 2.5k to insurance company, and they also claim Max for others claim include the fees suppose to pay to owner for replacement transport during the car in repair. Why u not choose send back to Edar SC or COE ? I doubt cost is 1K as it replace a newly painted metalic bonnet, bumper, grill and especially include 2 brand new light. I believe that alone have already exceeded 1K. A new radiator with attached accs, knocking (front firewall behind grill bend in), don't know how much. They declare 2.8K. Avg tow fee from KL to Klang is abt RM250 especially on midnight. A runner with a separate car pick me up in KL to my home in Klang at 3am. So it should be abt RM300++ for transportation. So if we do outside (also have to include other workshop profit margin, claim fee). Should be at least RM1.5K to 2K altogether excluding RM300+ towing services and home transport. Why not edar SC? Its midnight, the insurance emergency line cannot confirm if Edar is a panel (more like call center for multiple insurance company), so cannot tow there. Only can tow to panel and at midnight, I takda choice coz not sure edar panel or not, so no tow truck to call. It seems its the panel tow truck, the insurance tak da tow truck. U think edar open midnite to send tow truck to me kah. By the time, everything settles, its over 3am. Also I confused on the insurance company, tot AIG, so deal everything with AIG insurance panel. Turned out its Tokio Marine (all my other now AIG) and luckily this AIG panel are panel with ALL insurance company since they only deal with insurance repair and non others. btw. nowadays, insurance adjuster a bit strict liao, so cannot simply claim unless the item is truly broken thus the workshop replaced the front skirt for me on their own since no pecah, they cannot claim (saw the list, not include skirt and saw the photo before repaint, its a new skirt unpainted then), my seriously scratch logo also they don't allow to replace coz tak pecah. This post has been edited by Cavino: Apr 3 2014, 02:42 PM
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Cavino	Apr 3 2014, 02:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #158
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(RuL3s @ Apr 3 2014, 02:15 PM) Actually some modification to the car, not those heavy mod but like chassis foam, soundproofing, etc. Will these modification affects the values of your car when you want to trade/sell one day? Not really, thus the need to demod if you want to resell or sell it at a more favourable price if you can convinced the buyer.
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RuL3s	Apr 3 2014, 02:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #159
New Member Junior Member 39 posts Joined: Dec 2009	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2014, 02:24 PM) Not really, thus the need to demod if you want to resell or sell it at a more favourable price if you can convinced the buyer. Erm I see. But the buyer/dealer might use it as an excuse to lower the selling price?
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Cavino	Apr 3 2014, 02:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #160
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(RuL3s @ Apr 3 2014, 02:38 PM) Erm I see. But the buyer/dealer might use it as an excuse to lower the selling price? No.....unless you got a darn bloody ugly mod or the mod you install damaged the car in some way. Otherwise, they just take the "extra mod" from you at no additional cost to them thus its your lost. Thus its better to demod and sell those items yourself. For foam, I'm unsure, coz for PE, the added weight really affect your car performance.
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TSFubar20	Apr 3 2014, 02:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #161
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2014, 02:23 PM) btw. nowadays, insurance adjuster a bit strict liao, so cannot simply claim unless the item is truly broken thus the workshop replaced the front skirt for me on their own since no pecah, they cannot claim (saw the list, not include skirt and saw the photo before repaint, its a new skirt unpainted then), my seriously scratch logo also they don't allow to replace coz tak pecah. No pecah or rosak, they wouldn't change one.
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Unknown86	Apr 3 2014, 03:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #162
New Member Junior Member 4 posts Joined: Jan 2008	Yesterday some blardee guy kiss my car during jam.... now my car bumper got few spots of black colour (i think is the bumper colour) .. can touch up paint fill the gap? will post pic later when possible This post has been edited by Unknown86: Apr 4 2014, 09:55 AM
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TSFubar20	Apr 3 2014, 03:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #163
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Unknown86 @ Apr 3 2014, 03:26 PM) Yesterday some blardee guy kiss my car during jam.... now my car bumper got few spots of black colour (i think is the bumper colour) .. can touch up paint fill the gap? will post pic later when possible If the other car bumper colour, then remove it with polish or compound first.
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jasonloh7906	Apr 3 2014, 03:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #164
New Member Newbie 2 posts Joined: Nov 2010	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 3 2014, 08:54 AM) Update apa wo? Inb4 I close this thread and pass to you. haha, update lah something like what is recommended. itu tyre michelin still can be found meh? hahaha. I tak mau lu. I also mau tukar kereta edi. hahaha. QUOTE(kausar @ Apr 3 2014, 10:40 AM) proton note that all cfe cannot use x1r anymore becoz will build up sludge. how about normal iafm campro? just dun use. no point using. Since got money to spend on X1R why not spend it on better engine oil. as always, I will say caltex is very very good in protection and silencing the car. Maybe castrol is ok but make sure is genuine. addictive just forget about it. QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 3 2014, 11:11 AM) Can any owner check where this 2nd clear tube outlet from the radiator water reserve container goes to? Is it going directly out to the ground floor as nothing is connected at the end of the clear tube? Found the clear tube end facing towards the metal comp of the car after car repair. Adjusted the tube to face directly down towards the ground if waters comes out of it. Is it correct? is normal coz some people dunno for what reason fill their water lvl to max.
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TSFubar20	Apr 3 2014, 03:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #165
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 3 2014, 03:49 PM) haha, update lah something like what is recommended. itu tyre michelin still can be found meh? hahaha. I tak mau lu. I also mau tukar kereta edi. hahaha. As always cakap kosong when asked for ideas. Siapa suruh u mahu saya? U ghey?
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dadurtyz	Apr 3 2014, 11:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #166
On my way Senior Member 658 posts Joined: May 2006 From: Melaka	who hated to see you SV ride height like 4 wheel drive and interested to lowered you persona come see my thread https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=3182123
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Unknown86	Apr 4 2014, 10:00 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #167
New Member Junior Member 4 posts Joined: Jan 2008	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 3 2014, 03:42 PM) If the other car bumper colour, then remove it with polish or compound first. no other paint.. just bumper original colour exposed.
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TSFubar20	Apr 4 2014, 10:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #168
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Unknown86 @ Apr 4 2014, 10:00 AM) no other paint.. just bumper original colour exposed. Then buy touch up paint and settle lah.
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Cavino	Apr 4 2014, 10:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #169
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 4 2014, 10:09 AM) Then buy touch up paint and settle lah. Either that, or go buy mickey mouse sticker to stick.
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TSFubar20	Apr 4 2014, 10:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #170
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 4 2014, 10:13 AM) Either that, or go buy mickey mouse sticker to stick. Transformer, Smurf, Hello Kitty, Naked chicks,...........etc
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iskazulka	Apr 4 2014, 12:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #171
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	tampal sticker LIKE GIRLDRIFTERLEONACHIN or Lowyat.net PERSONA or bandage sticker This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 4 2014, 12:28 PM
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Unknown86	Apr 4 2014, 02:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #172
New Member Junior Member 4 posts Joined: Jan 2008	this? LOL
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nickzkuso	Apr 4 2014, 07:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #173
New Member Newbie 10 posts Joined: Jul 2012	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 2 2014, 11:39 PM) Yes, fake.. His Persona's gearbox rosak, now dunno what's the latest news. Maybe now driving the sports car Myvi or the super car Vios. now drive vios and no time to layan us liao..fb oso tak layan jom TT tonight
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 4 2014, 09:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #174
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 3 2014, 01:28 AM) due to some oil. having similiar problem. but mine not as serious as his. dunno why. haha. therefore it is not recommended to use other atf. better stick back to our proton or petronas. . Well, so far my Persona has already run on the Petro Canada DuraDrive MV ATF for about 4,000+- KM with a mixture of the Petro Canada D3M ATF (dexron 3) since January. No problems so far. Still smooth as it was on day one even with all the full throttle trashing sometimes, though I feel like replacing the ATF with another 4L of the DuraDrive again since the last change involved flushing with 6 litres of D3M and 6 litres of DuraDrive MV, so it's not completely DuraDrive MV only. QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Apr 4 2014, 07:27 PM) now drive vios and no time to layan us liao..fb oso tak layan jom TT tonight Very busy trying to complete my programming assignment at the moment
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NMZjj	Apr 4 2014, 11:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #175
shine! Senior Member 755 posts Joined: Feb 2006	hoho.. a bit regret getting a medium line last time.. how to add abs, ebd and rear disc brake now? cost how much..?
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akh2920	Apr 5 2014, 04:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #176
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	Today i was arguing with my friend on whether buy new persona sv better or second hand vios better =.= By the way, anyone know why persona is heavier than vios?
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kennywee92	Apr 5 2014, 05:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #177
New Member Junior Member 34 posts Joined: Aug 2011	QUOTE(kinkeet @ Apr 4 2014, 11:34 PM) hoho.. a bit regret getting a medium line last time.. how to add abs, ebd and rear disc brake now? cost how much..? Super regret getting B-Line last time.
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muslayer	Apr 5 2014, 07:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #178
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Sep 2005	Those have aircond Vent rattling sound, either use some foam type double sided tape to put some at the fins or Replace the vent ( RM 40 for Pair for middle ) (Not original). Good enough
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 5 2014, 07:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #179
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 5 2014, 04:58 PM) Today i was arguing with my friend on whether buy new persona sv better or second hand vios better =.= By the way, anyone know why persona is heavier than vios? NASA grade aluminium. It's a super car after all. QUOTE(muslayer @ Apr 5 2014, 07:19 PM) Those have aircond Vent rattling sound, either use some foam type double sided tape to put some at the fins or Replace the vent ( RM 40 for Pair for middle ) (Not original). Good enough Mana? I want. double sided tape tarak guna.
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Effy92	Apr 5 2014, 07:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #180
Getting Started Junior Member 294 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 5 2014, 04:58 PM) Today i was arguing with my friend on whether buy new persona sv better or second hand vios better =.= By the way, anyone know why persona is heavier than vios? Bigger and wider car of course more heavier But not exactly, did you know satria neo heavier than alza? This post has been edited by Effy92: Apr 5 2014, 07:55 PM
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akh2920	Apr 5 2014, 07:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #181
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 5 2014, 07:30 PM) NASA grade aluminium. It's a super car after all. Wow seriously not joking?? so means it has stronger body than other cars?
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akh2920	Apr 5 2014, 07:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #182
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(Effy92 @ Apr 5 2014, 07:54 PM) Bigger and wider car of course more heavier But not exactly, did you know satria neo heavier than alza? Sounds true also, my friend die die insist that Persona is no way to be heavier than Vios, stating Vios body material is thicker and better la bla bla What is the reason for satria neo's case?? This post has been edited by akh2920: Apr 5 2014, 07:58 PM
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V12Kompressor	Apr 5 2014, 08:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #183
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 5 2014, 07:57 PM) Sounds true also, my friend die die insist that Persona is no way to be heavier than Vios, stating Vios body material is thicker and better la bla bla What is the reason for satria neo's case?? NASA grade titanium
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 5 2014, 08:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #184
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 5 2014, 07:55 PM) Wow seriously not joking?? so means it has stronger body than other cars? QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 5 2014, 07:57 PM) Sounds true also, my friend die die insist that Persona is no way to be heavier than Vios, stating Vios body material is thicker and better la bla bla What is the reason for satria neo's case?? Because the Macampro IAFM 1.6L engine is casted using a stone furnace due to the lack of proper facilities as there aren't enough R&D funds (that's why proton asked for 3billion recently), therefore the end result is that the weight of the engine is very heavy. Without it the Persona is actually as light as a kancil .
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akh2920	Apr 5 2014, 09:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #185
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 5 2014, 08:11 PM) Because the Macampro IAFM 1.6L engine is casted using a stone furnace due to the lack of proper facilities as there aren't enough R&D funds (that's why proton asked for 3billion recently), therefore the end result is that the weight of the engine is very heavy. Without it the Persona is actually as light as a kancil . oh i see i see~~ Thanks for your info so the NASA aluminium thingy previously mentioned isnt true? haha and yeah it sounds too non-realistic you dont say This post has been edited by akh2920: Apr 5 2014, 09:32 PM
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Effy92	Apr 5 2014, 09:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #186
Getting Started Junior Member 294 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 5 2014, 07:57 PM) Sounds true also, my friend die die insist that Persona is no way to be heavier than Vios, stating Vios body material is thicker and better la bla bla What is the reason for satria neo's case?? Donno why. Just recently comparing car spec, surprisingly alza kerb weight are lighter than neo.
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akh2920	Apr 5 2014, 09:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #187
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(Effy92 @ Apr 5 2014, 09:35 PM) Donno why. Just recently comparing car spec, surprisingly alza kerb weight are lighter than neo. It seems to be too many factors out there which could affect the weight of a car
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davidlow7	Apr 5 2014, 09:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #188
StageMaster Senior Member 8,306 posts Joined: Jan 2003 From: Puchong Melaka Cyberjaya	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 5 2014, 07:57 PM) Sounds true also, my friend die die insist that Persona is no way to be heavier than Vios, stating Vios body material is thicker and better la bla bla What is the reason for satria neo's case?? Persona's battery already much heavier than Vios This post has been edited by davidlow7: Apr 5 2014, 09:50 PM
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 5 2014, 10:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #189
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 5 2014, 09:30 PM) oh i see i see~~ Thanks for your info so the NASA aluminium thingy previously mentioned isnt true? haha and yeah it sounds too non-realistic you dont say Yup, it's untrue. Why is the Vios lighter? I don't know. But even after debunking my claims on how heavy the campro is, and after removing the campro engine the car will still probably be heavier/slightly heavier than a Vios unless the engine's weight is more than 200KG. Even so, if you remove the engine in a Vios, it'll probably still be lighter than a Persona without an engine. So eliminating that factor, it probably can be assumed that the panels are thicker, body is heavier due to thicker /heavier material and et cetera. I don't think soundproofing would be a significant factor here since the Persona's soundproofing probably isn't too heavy to begin with anyway.
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akh2920	Apr 5 2014, 10:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #190
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 5 2014, 10:06 PM) Yup, it's untrue. Why is the Vios lighter? I don't know. But even after debunking my claims on how heavy the campro is, and after removing the campro engine the car will still probably be heavier/slightly heavier than a Vios unless the engine's weight is more than 200KG. Even so, if you remove the engine in a Vios, it'll probably still be lighter than a Persona without an engine. So eliminating that factor, it probably can be assumed that the panels are thicker, body is heavier due to thicker /heavier material and et cetera. I don't think soundproofing would be a significant factor here since the Persona's soundproofing probably isn't too heavy to begin with anyway. And I suddenly thought of Mazda's skyactiv technology, which makes its body lighter for acceleration, yet still strong enough for safety... Same concept for vios kot i guess
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 5 2014, 10:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #191
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 5 2014, 10:22 PM) And I suddenly thought of Mazda's skyactiv technology, which makes its body lighter for acceleration, yet still strong enough for safety... Same concept for vios kot i guess . You mean Skyactiv body? If a car's weight can change on the fly (aside from losing things or down/up force) that would be very interesting . This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Apr 5 2014, 10:24 PM
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akh2920	Apr 5 2014, 10:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #192
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 5 2014, 10:23 PM) . You mean Skyactiv body? If a car's weight can change on the fly (aside from losing things or down/up force) that would be very interesting . Lets wait proton to invent this LOL
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muslayer	Apr 6 2014, 07:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #193
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Sep 2005	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 5 2014, 07:30 PM) Mana? I want. double sided tape tarak guna. I get from my regular spare parts shop in OUG. Ownself change.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 6 2014, 11:19 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #194
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(muslayer @ Apr 6 2014, 07:35 AM) I get from my regular spare parts shop in OUG. Ownself change. How to change? Easy? Take off the top plastic cover and unscrew sini sana pull out put in screw sini sana put back cover settle?
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nickzkuso	Apr 6 2014, 02:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #195
New Member Newbie 10 posts Joined: Jul 2012	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 4 2014, 09:34 PM) . Well, so far my Persona has already run on the Petro Canada DuraDrive MV ATF for about 4,000+- KM with a mixture of the Petro Canada D3M ATF (dexron 3) since January. No problems so far. Still smooth as it was on day one even with all the full throttle trashing sometimes, though I feel like replacing the ATF with another 4L of the DuraDrive again since the last change involved flushing with 6 litres of D3M and 6 litres of DuraDrive MV, so it's not completely DuraDrive MV only. Very busy trying to complete my programming assignment at the moment eh, u still using ur piaa wiper? that one judder like shit...
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 6 2014, 03:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #196
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Apr 6 2014, 02:49 PM) eh, u still using ur piaa wiper? that one judder like shit... Still using. Managed to exchange it. It still judders (but way less) when the screen is not very wet but dirty or when the screen is wet but clean. Otherwise it doesn't judder at all if it's respectably wet and dirty. I haven't washed my car for quite some time. This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Apr 6 2014, 03:24 PM
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vampire_empirez	Apr 6 2014, 06:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #197
Getting Started Junior Member 131 posts Joined: Oct 2011	I'm going to install fog lamp. anyone knows how to DIY?
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mi-g	Apr 6 2014, 06:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #198
Part-time Troll Senior Member 1,501 posts Joined: Oct 2004 From: ISA Detention Room -Port Valdez-	hi guys.. i'm an old LYN user, mostly lepak at /k/ only.. i believe this is my 1st post in Car Club.. i recently own a Persona (AT) 2009, silver colour. basic edition. didnt care much about the car as i take it from brother-in-law (sambung bayar got 4year more to finish). TS please add me to owner's list ya problem is, the front windscreen already cracked when he passed the car to me, and asked me to find shop which can change that cheaply and he'll pay me back.. so i would like to ask here, where's the best & cheap shop to change the windscreen around subang/seri kembangan area? other neighboring also can.. thanks in advance
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vampire_empirez	Apr 6 2014, 06:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #199
Getting Started Junior Member 131 posts Joined: Oct 2011	QUOTE(mi-g @ Apr 6 2014, 06:40 PM) hi guys.. i'm an old LYN user, mostly lepak at /k/ only.. i believe this is my 1st post in Car Club.. i recently own a Persona (AT) 2009, silver colour. basic edition. didnt care much about the car as i take it from brother-in-law (sambung bayar got 4year more to finish). TS please add me to owner's list ya problem is, the front windscreen already cracked when he passed the car to me, and asked me to find shop which can change that cheaply and he'll pay me back.. so i would like to ask here, where's the best & cheap shop to change the windscreen around subang/seri kembangan area? other neighboring also can.. thanks in advance http://drcermin.com/home.html
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muslayer	Apr 6 2014, 09:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #200
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Sep 2005	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 6 2014, 11:19 AM) How to change? Easy? Take off the top plastic cover and unscrew sini sana pull out put in screw sini sana put back cover settle? For the middle left side, use a flat screw driver on the gap on the left of the vent pry open it. Once one side out, then will be easy.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 6 2014, 10:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #201
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(muslayer @ Apr 6 2014, 09:51 PM) For the middle left side, use a flat screw driver on the gap on the left of the vent pry open it. Once one side out, then will be easy. Same for the right side? Putting it back involves forcing it in?
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fordminor	Apr 7 2014, 09:43 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #202
New Member Junior Member 44 posts Joined: Jan 2010	Hi all, can anyone recommend me the good aftermarket ignition coil to upgrade for persona IAFM? Or you guys are prefer to stick to original proton ignition coil for some reason? please share me yours opinion
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akh2920	Apr 7 2014, 04:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #203
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	Am getting my persona sv very soon! By the way, can anyone tell me whether I should sign loan agreement before getting car, or sign after got the car? Then how about plate number? How is the correct procedure flow actually?
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ngeo88	Apr 7 2014, 05:35 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #204
New Member Junior Member 48 posts Joined: Nov 2009	QUOTE(fordminor @ Apr 7 2014, 09:43 AM) Hi all, can anyone recommend me the good aftermarket ignition coil to upgrade for persona IAFM? Or you guys are prefer to stick to original proton ignition coil for some reason? please share me yours opinion Persona Elegance model ignition coil need to change whole set for 4 plug.
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lord_aminkin	Apr 7 2014, 08:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #205
♫~♫~♫~♫~♫~♫~♫~♫~♫ Senior Member 999 posts Joined: Jan 2006	Hi sifus, maaf noobie tumpang bertanya. I just lost my spare key (original key already a year ago) and can't access my car anymore. I call one in JB service center they said it cost around RM500 something to make new key + coding + new alarm system, is it true? Is it really necessary to change the whole alarm system also? Because previously call another service center they say probably RM250++ since got one customer facing same problem but withh Exora..mohon pencerahan, thanks~ This post has been edited by lord_aminkin: Apr 7 2014, 08:07 PM
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armadasaxon	Apr 7 2014, 08:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #206
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	QUOTE(kennywee92 @ Apr 5 2014, 05:56 PM) Super regret getting B-Line last time. U regret getting bline? My car 3 years only h line rm60k.now juz worth 22k.. i laugh until nothing to say. My waja 10 year still got rm12k..ha ha ha
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fordminor	Apr 7 2014, 08:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #207
New Member Junior Member 44 posts Joined: Jan 2010	QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Apr 7 2014, 05:35 PM) Persona Elegance model ignition coil need to change whole set for 4 plug. Any brand is recommended?
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The_FQ400	Apr 7 2014, 11:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #208
New Member Newbie 5 posts Joined: Jun 2011	Happy Birthday to raimy sifu!
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riezzien	Apr 8 2014, 06:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #209
Getting Started Junior Member 107 posts Joined: Jan 2009	QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 7 2014, 08:12 PM) U regret getting bline? My car 3 years only h line rm60k.now juz worth 22k.. i laugh until nothing to say. My waja 10 year still got rm12k..ha ha ha If your car is year 2011 h line shud worth about 35k le average where got 22k. If u go ask trade in dealer he sure try to lowball u one
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Cavino	Apr 8 2014, 08:36 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #210
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(riezzien @ Apr 8 2014, 06:46 AM) If your car is year 2011 h line shud worth about 35k le average where got 22k. If u go ask trade in dealer he sure try to lowball u one Ya, I was thinking the same. The avg price for H-Line 2011 model is abt 35K. I'm a 2011 H-Line owner too. Maybe he was quoted the b-line pricing. This post has been edited by Cavino: Apr 8 2014, 08:36 AM
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iskazulka	Apr 8 2014, 10:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #211
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 6 2014, 04:24 PM) Still using. Managed to exchange it. It still judders (but way less) when the screen is not very wet but dirty or when the screen is wet but clean. Otherwise it doesn't judder at all if it's respectably wet and dirty. I haven't washed my car for quite some time. considered ok liao.
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samwongjyhhorng	Apr 8 2014, 10:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #212
New Member Junior Member 10 posts Joined: Jun 2010	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 8 2014, 08:36 AM) Ya, I was thinking the same. The avg price for H-Line 2011 model is abt 35K. I'm a 2011 H-Line owner too. Maybe he was quoted the b-line pricing. My pe sold at dec 13.onli sold rm31k to direct owner.used car dealer onli take rm23k to rm26k.2010 pe h line
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armadasaxon	Apr 8 2014, 12:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #213
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	sorry is trade in price..
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kennywee92	Apr 8 2014, 12:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #214
New Member Junior Member 34 posts Joined: Aug 2011	QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 7 2014, 08:12 PM) U regret getting bline? My car 3 years only h line rm60k.now juz worth 22k.. i laugh until nothing to say. My waja 10 year still got rm12k..ha ha ha 22K? You asked 2nd hand car dealer? I got quotation for insurance. My car worth 39K according to them
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mensa	Apr 8 2014, 12:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #215
Casual Junior Member 487 posts Joined: Jul 2005 From: Malaysia	anyone already add atf cooler? any positive feedback..e.g smooth gear change..engine temp others? plan to install.
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Xefron	Apr 8 2014, 12:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #216
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,507 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 7 2014, 08:12 PM) U regret getting bline? My car 3 years only h line rm60k.now juz worth 22k.. i laugh until nothing to say. My waja 10 year still got rm12k..ha ha ha hahaha.mine is 2009 SE. ask for trade in only RM 19K. ask why ? because SV is already out .LEL. sum insured RM37K for 2014. must sell directly if want higher price. This post has been edited by Xefron: Apr 8 2014, 12:59 PM
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iskazulka	Apr 8 2014, 01:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #217
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(mensa @ Apr 8 2014, 01:28 PM) anyone already add atf cooler? any positive feedback..e.g smooth gear change..engine temp others? plan to install. iinm, saga just sufficient use without ATF cooler. just maintain change ATF oil will do.
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iskazulka	Apr 8 2014, 01:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #218
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(mensa @ Apr 8 2014, 01:28 PM) anyone already add atf cooler? any positive feedback..e.g smooth gear change..engine temp others? plan to install. answer. QUOTE(r3apers @ Dec 20 2012, 10:58 AM) u ingat ATF cooler byk murah ar.. btw its not necessary to use ATF cooler if u not always racing... insulfelx less thn 100... QUOTE(r3apers @ Dec 20 2012, 11:19 AM) atf cooler the smaller size already cost ard 350-450 depend brand... larger capacity is 600++ onwards if not mistaken...maybe unker daivd know the price.. my fish pasang atf cooler smaller size + labour + top-up ATF = nearly 500 bucks... QUOTE(r3apers @ Dec 20 2012, 11:34 AM) my fish pasang the atf cooler while my fish is already 7 years old as i push my fish damn hard... sumtimes rev till max and takut gb will overheated as the gb sumtimes will delay shifting... after pasang, smooth ride but later this year gb TC gone wrg liao...
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flex3x	Apr 8 2014, 01:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #219
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Aug 2010	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 7 2014, 04:48 PM) Am getting my persona sv very soon! By the way, can anyone tell me whether I should sign loan agreement before getting car, or sign after got the car? Then how about plate number? How is the correct procedure flow actually? 1. Find an SA 2. Go to showroom, meet up, ask for discounts and promo 3. Everything ok, pay partial/full downpayment 4. Give 3 months payslip and photocopy IC 5. Bank will contact you and do verification 6. Few days later, bank will call saying loan approved/not 7. SA will call to notify you on your allocation and tentative delivery date 8. Choose a number plate 9. SA will give you your loan docs to sign, pay remaining downpayment if not, give 2nd driver for insurance if needed 10. Wait for car
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akh2920	Apr 8 2014, 01:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #220
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(flex3x @ Apr 8 2014, 01:30 PM) 1. Find an SA 2. Go to showroom, meet up, ask for discounts and promo 3. Everything ok, pay partial/full downpayment 4. Give 3 months payslip and photocopy IC 5. Bank will contact you and do verification 6. Few days later, bank will call saying loan approved/not 7. SA will call to notify you on your allocation and tentative delivery date 8. Choose a number plate 9. SA will give you your loan docs to sign, pay remaining downpayment if not, give 2nd driver for insurance if needed 10. Wait for car Thanks for your reply! My loan already approved... so you mean sign first then baru wait for car, not check car baru sign? Wont it be risky?
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armadasaxon	Apr 8 2014, 01:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #221
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	QUOTE(Xefron @ Apr 8 2014, 12:58 PM) hahaha.mine is 2009 SE. ask for trade in only RM 19K. ask why ? because SV is already out .LEL. sum insured RM37K for 2014. must sell directly if want higher price. So that's why u should not insured 37k..coz its only worth around 28-30k..lol
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Xefron	Apr 8 2014, 01:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #222
Look at all my stars!! Senior Member 2,507 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 8 2014, 01:40 PM) So that's why u should not insured 37k..coz its only worth around 28-30k..lol not so much different for the premium amount paid.37K is eight months ago.
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nickzkuso	Apr 8 2014, 06:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #223
New Member Newbie 10 posts Joined: Jul 2012	then this year end can put rm10k for sum insured :yawn:
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r3apers	Apr 9 2014, 09:53 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #224
Getting Started Junior Member 225 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: Subang Jaya	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 8 2014, 01:28 PM) answer. QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Apr 8 2014, 06:26 PM) then this year end can put rm10k for sum insured :yawn: wth
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TSFubar20	Apr 9 2014, 10:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #225
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(r3apers @ Apr 9 2014, 09:53 AM) wth 10K for his new besi buruk.
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armadasaxon	Apr 9 2014, 02:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #226
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	dun la lidat..those ppl baru beli SV c all this..no good..morale down..
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TSFubar20	Apr 9 2014, 02:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #227
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 9 2014, 02:10 PM) dun la lidat..those ppl baru beli SV c all this..no good..morale down.. Manada? SV owners should have enjoice since they got good bargain. Only we, the PE owners see market price drop.
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iskazulka	Apr 9 2014, 04:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #228
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 9 2014, 03:10 PM) dun la lidat..those ppl baru beli SV c all this..no good..morale down.. new car straight exit showroom already market price drop ady..
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Cavino	Apr 10 2014, 08:33 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #229
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 9 2014, 04:49 PM) new car straight exit showroom already market price drop ady.. Actually that applies to all new cars regardless of makes. The worse is the Korean marquee. Although improve massively both on tech, specs and reliability, the perception of Malaysian car buyers still render the Korean 2nd hand market almost without value. The higher the car price, the worse the price drop. That's why cheap car for high mileage travel will ends up worth it when compared with the much higher price ones. (That's why my Honda become weekend car, while PE, high mileage travel). This post has been edited by Cavino: Apr 10 2014, 08:36 AM
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MrOne	Apr 10 2014, 09:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #230
Getting Started Junior Member 276 posts Joined: Jan 2003	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 9 2014, 02:14 PM) Manada? SV owners should have enjoice since they got good bargain. Only we, the PE owners see market price drop. SV consider as basic car lo... inside manyak kosong..... not accessories given.....
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TSFubar20	Apr 10 2014, 09:53 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #231
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(MrOne @ Apr 10 2014, 09:13 AM) SV consider as basic car lo... inside manyak kosong..... not accessories given..... Apa lagi accessories lu lagi mau? Extra airbag tak cukup? Rear disc brake tak cukup? ABS & EBD tak cukup? Kalo accessories macam leather seat, fog lamp, sendiri pasang lo since car so cheap sure got extra cash one. Another thing is really basic is B line pasu bunga rims. You go ask B line owner lah if SV is basic or not. This post has been edited by Fubar20: Apr 10 2014, 09:55 AM
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aki^what	Apr 10 2014, 10:24 AM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #232
New Member Junior Member 45 posts Joined: Jan 2007	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 10 2014, 09:53 AM) Apa lagi accessories lu lagi mau? Extra airbag tak cukup? Rear disc brake tak cukup? ABS & EBD tak cukup? Kalo accessories macam leather seat, fog lamp, sendiri pasang lo since car so cheap sure got extra cash one. Another thing is really basic is B line pasu bunga rims. You go ask B line owner lah if SV is basic or not. PE owner also. just 8 month and SV launched. at proton. no say wan to out SV... see blue SV, my heart ache and wan racing wit them...
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TSFubar20	Apr 10 2014, 10:27 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #233
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(aki^what @ Apr 10 2014, 10:24 AM) PE owner also. just 8 month and SV launched. at proton. no say wan to out SV... see blue SV, my heart ache and wan racing wit them... I understand you. Just be happy with your decision and enjoy your car.
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r3apers	Apr 10 2014, 11:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #234
Getting Started Junior Member 225 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: Subang Jaya	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 9 2014, 10:11 AM) 10K for his new besi buruk. hahaha....
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heart strings	Apr 10 2014, 11:44 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #235
Getting Started Junior Member 252 posts Joined: Apr 2013	guys, can you share your FC?
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TSFubar20	Apr 10 2014, 11:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #236
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(heart strings @ Apr 10 2014, 11:44 AM) guys, can you share your FC? Click on my Fuelly.
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r3apers	Apr 10 2014, 11:47 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #237
Getting Started Junior Member 225 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: Subang Jaya	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 10 2014, 11:45 AM) Click on my Fuelly. why ur fc so good...
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TSFubar20	Apr 10 2014, 11:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #238
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(r3apers @ Apr 10 2014, 11:47 AM) why ur fc so good... 1. I try to plan where ayam going before any trip. 2. I rarely drive into city mia. 3. I control my right leg.
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r3apers	Apr 10 2014, 12:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #239
Getting Started Junior Member 225 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: Subang Jaya	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 10 2014, 11:48 AM) 1. I try to plan where ayam going before any trip. Same also wat 2. I rarely drive into city mia. i mostly stuck in SS15 and cari parking 3. I control my right leg. already control
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armadasaxon	Apr 10 2014, 12:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #240
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	QUOTE(heart strings @ Apr 10 2014, 11:44 AM) guys, can you share your FC? my right leg dam heavy..always 3 - 3.5k rpm my meter put 12.8l/100km but when I fuel up petrol and calculate back = 1 liter can go 8.5km proton wonderful meter.. How much u getting? This post has been edited by armadasaxon: Apr 10 2014, 12:13 PM
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Cavino	Apr 10 2014, 12:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #241
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(r3apers @ Apr 10 2014, 11:47 AM) why ur fc so good... U ada install LCP kah? If you stuck in city a lot, the start stop pickup no power means tekan more to jalan. Itu gajah ada LCP.
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heart strings	Apr 10 2014, 12:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #242
Getting Started Junior Member 252 posts Joined: Apr 2013	QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 10 2014, 12:12 PM) my right leg dam heavy..always 3 - 3.5k rpm my meter put 12.8l/100km but when I fuel up petrol and calculate back = 1 liter can go 8.5km proton wonderful meter.. How much u getting? 9km/l
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armadasaxon	Apr 10 2014, 12:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #243
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 10 2014, 12:46 PM) U ada install LCP kah? If you stuck in city a lot, the start stop pickup no power means tekan more to jalan. Itu gajah ada LCP. I agree with u 1000%...I hate the no pickup power the most. Now I change to syntium 800 ..macam fc lagi teruk..dunno got effect anot.
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r3apers	Apr 10 2014, 12:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #244
Getting Started Junior Member 225 posts Joined: Feb 2010 From: Subang Jaya	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 10 2014, 12:46 PM) U ada install LCP kah? If you stuck in city a lot, the start stop pickup no power means tekan more to jalan. Itu gajah ada LCP. nope. STOCK car, btw mine is saga.
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TSFubar20	Apr 10 2014, 01:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #245
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(heart strings @ Apr 10 2014, 12:47 PM) 9km/l Heavy right foot and city driving lettew.
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heart strings	Apr 10 2014, 01:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #246
Getting Started Junior Member 252 posts Joined: Apr 2013	i saw on the other thread on honda city's fc. it's double of ours
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yw46	Apr 10 2014, 01:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #247
Casual Junior Member 400 posts Joined: Nov 2008	Hi all Proton first 3 services free labor charges So rebalance and alignment also free ?
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TSFubar20	Apr 10 2014, 01:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #248
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(yw46 @ Apr 10 2014, 01:39 PM) Hi all Proton first 3 services free labor charges So rebalance and alignment also free ? Only if your mileage is less than 1K.
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Cavino	Apr 10 2014, 01:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #249
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(heart strings @ Apr 10 2014, 01:32 PM) i saw on the other thread on honda city's fc. it's double of ours Tipu punya. Maybe full tank 100% highway drive, no brakes, no air-cond, etc. In real life driving, my vtec city 2006 with CVT tranny usually achieve 15+km/l with a 60/40 highway city drive. Now my wife driving it 80% city drive abt 11-12+km/l. The last time iDSI with a CVT tranny achieve abt 17km/l with realistic drive. I doubt the FC of current more efficient iVtec engine BUT with a conventional tranny can best a CVT tranny drive of the older city. The old iDsi does achieve an 21km/l during a challenge drive with air-cond off, 80% highway, very minimum braking and mostly gliding (not realistic real life everyday driving). btw. I always doubt the accuracy of stock meter of any car. Fuel pump avg is the most accurate indicator. This post has been edited by Cavino: Apr 10 2014, 01:54 PM
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armadasaxon	Apr 10 2014, 02:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #250
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	QUOTE(heart strings @ Apr 10 2014, 01:32 PM) i saw on the other thread on honda city's fc. it's double of ours Yala..all dis tipu punya..u dunno he drive city or highway..cannot c lidat 1..dat day I test drive the new city...super awesome car..dun care drum or wat la.. Wan to overtake when u come to complete stop also like wind...hehehe..test edi..straight 1 sell my junk..lol
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V12Kompressor	Apr 10 2014, 02:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #251
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	cough current City comes with CVT cough and to be fair, the CVT is one of the best in the market so far.
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Cavino	Apr 10 2014, 04:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #252
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 10 2014, 02:48 PM) cough current City comes with CVT cough and to be fair, the CVT is one of the best in the market so far. Urmm...ya hor....forgot. Then it is possible with very high amt of highway drive.
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voscar	Apr 10 2014, 05:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #253
Regular Senior Member 1,525 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(heart strings @ Apr 10 2014, 01:32 PM) i saw on the other thread on honda city's fc. it's double of ours ask that person take photo of the elapsed time... anyone beat my record of using 14 hours for just 269.6km? tell me your fuel consumption then we compare apple to apple. This post has been edited by voscar: Apr 10 2014, 05:06 PM
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nickzkuso	Apr 11 2014, 01:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #254
New Member Newbie 10 posts Joined: Jul 2012	QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 10 2014, 12:12 PM) my right leg dam heavy..always 3 - 3.5k rpm my meter put 12.8l/100km but when I fuel up petrol and calculate back = 1 liter can go 8.5km proton wonderful meter.. How much u getting? 12.8l/100km indeed very high.. try to observe it after 10k service..or your car ald reach 10k and above?
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TSFubar20	Apr 11 2014, 09:10 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #255
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Apr 11 2014, 01:07 AM) 12.8l/100km indeed very high.. try to observe it after 10k service..or your car ald reach 10k and above? Dun waste ur time talking to him. His car is same as besi buruk mia car age, IINM.
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wenco	Apr 11 2014, 02:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #256
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: May 2011	Hi bros, New owner here: persona SV (A) silver. I'm looking to get the trunk lid cover n luggage tray Can anyone share some info to me? Thanks
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armadasaxon	Apr 11 2014, 02:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #257
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	lol..me car 70k oredi lor..maybe iafm problem gua.. and pure city drive..i travel 3-5km lidat..from office to home..everyday.
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vampire_empirez	Apr 11 2014, 02:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #258
Getting Started Junior Member 131 posts Joined: Oct 2011	QUOTE(wenco @ Apr 11 2014, 02:26 PM) Hi bros, New owner here: persona SV (A) silver. I'm looking to get the trunk lid cover n luggage tray Can anyone share some info to me? Thanks http://www.mudah.my/Trunk+Lid+Cover+for+Pr...ne-11594423.htm http://www.mudah.my/Persona+Elegance+Lugga...4644.htm?last=1
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szaku89	Apr 11 2014, 03:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #259
Amazing Z Senior Member 1,351 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: Planet Earth	Actually whats the function of trunk lid cover? Does it effectively lower down the NVH?
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h3b388	Apr 11 2014, 03:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #260
Getting Started Junior Member 72 posts Joined: Feb 2012	Hi guys, I was driving my persona to genting,n while driving up,when I slow down for the bumper,the engine suddenly off.this occurred 3 times,all during the slow down on bumper. Besides that,once I parked my car n turn off the engine,it seems that the engine din really turn off n it off after 30 sec - 1 min. What could be the problem? I'm driving a sv n the car is 2 months old,an already went through the first service.
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TSFubar20	Apr 11 2014, 03:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #261
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(h3b388 @ Apr 11 2014, 03:42 PM) Hi guys, I was driving my persona to genting,n while driving up,when I slow down for the bumper,the engine suddenly off.this occurred 3 times,all during the slow down on bumper. Besides that,once I parked my car n turn off the engine,it seems that the engine din really turn off n it off after 30 sec - 1 min. What could be the problem? I'm driving a sv n the car is 2 months old,an already went through the first service. First one dunno. Second one is normal geh when new after running long distance. The fan will keep running one after off engine.
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Cavino	Apr 11 2014, 03:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #262
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 11 2014, 03:48 PM) First one dunno. Second one is normal geh when new after running long distance. The fan will keep running one after off engine. The first one reminds me of my engine off issue when slowing down on toll gate barrier. Luckily have no re-occur since then. Don't know why it happen then either.
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TSFubar20	Apr 11 2014, 03:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #263
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 11 2014, 03:53 PM) The first one reminds me of my engine off issue when slowing down on toll gate barrier. Luckily have no re-occur since then. Don't know why it happen then either. But his one is going uphill wo. Maybe cold weather kot making the engine temperature down and not sustaining it at normal.
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h3b388	Apr 11 2014, 04:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #264
Getting Started Junior Member 72 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 11 2014, 03:55 PM) But his one is going uphill wo. Maybe cold weather kot making the engine temperature down and not sustaining it at normal. Yea.its whn going uphill,n I slow down for the bumper only the engine went off. Hopefully its nothing serious.
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TSFubar20	Apr 11 2014, 04:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #265
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(h3b388 @ Apr 11 2014, 04:09 PM) Yea.its whn going uphill,n I slow down for the bumper only the engine went off. Hopefully its nothing serious. Manual or Auto? Mine Auto went up few times also no issue like that.
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vampire_empirez	Apr 11 2014, 04:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #266
Getting Started Junior Member 131 posts Joined: Oct 2011	edited This post has been edited by vampire_empirez: Apr 11 2014, 04:17 PM
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Swordsmen	Apr 11 2014, 04:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #267
Motion Effects Designer & Video Editor Senior Member 643 posts Joined: Dec 2006 From: In your Heart	guys, i,m currently travel at least 95KM go and back everyday to work. but the fc showing st 7.0L/100km. is it good? average 80kmh
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TSFubar20	Apr 11 2014, 04:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #268
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Swordsmen @ Apr 11 2014, 04:19 PM) guys, i,m currently travel at least 95KM go and back everyday to work. but the fc showing st 7.0L/100km. is it good? average 80kmh Very good liao due to long distance travel.
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Cavino	Apr 11 2014, 04:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #269
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(Swordsmen @ Apr 11 2014, 04:19 PM) guys, i,m currently travel at least 95KM go and back everyday to work. but the fc showing st 7.0L/100km. is it good? average 80kmh Itu meter tipu punya. I usually still get 7+/100km but when calculate thru averaging fuel pump vs km travelled (over a few full refills), it comes to at least 8+.
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TSFubar20	Apr 11 2014, 04:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #270
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 11 2014, 04:28 PM) Itu meter tipu punya. I usually still get 7+/100km but when calculate thru averaging fuel pump vs km travelled (over a few full refills), it comes to at least 8+. ~~But his fuelly got show 7.2l/100 km wo.~~ Itu 2013 data. Anyway, still good FC if calculate is 8. This post has been edited by Fubar20: Apr 11 2014, 04:34 PM
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h3b388	Apr 11 2014, 04:53 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #271
Getting Started Junior Member 72 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 11 2014, 04:11 PM) Manual or Auto? Mine Auto went up few times also no issue like that. Its auto bro.
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pipi_6988	Apr 12 2014, 10:32 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #272
Getting Started Junior Member 250 posts Joined: Jan 2009	thinking of changing to seramic brake pad, how much does it cost inluding installation? any recommend brand?
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 12 2014, 02:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #273
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(pipi_6988 @ Apr 12 2014, 10:32 AM) thinking of changing to seramic brake pad, how much does it cost inluding installation? any recommend brand? Should be fairly cheap since replacing brake pads is one of the easiest job to do. The garage sales section has the Best form / Ceramic Nao thing for sale for about RM60 ~ Rm80 a pair for the Persona. Otherwise if you want, you could try to source for the Bendix Ceramic pads, which I suppose are most probably sold by the people who carries Bendix products as well, but those are probably much more expensive.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 12 2014, 02:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #274
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(h3b388 @ Apr 11 2014, 04:53 PM) Its auto bro. Not supposed to happen. You should bring it for a health check-up soon.
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nickzkuso	Apr 14 2014, 10:09 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #275
New Member Newbie 10 posts Joined: Jul 2012	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 11 2014, 09:10 AM) Dun waste ur time talking to him. His car is same as besi buruk mia car age, IINM. u punya brother ka? QUOTE(szaku89 @ Apr 11 2014, 03:36 PM) Actually whats the function of trunk lid cover? Does it effectively lower down the NVH? for cosmetic purpose LOL maybe will lower down some NVH when raining QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 11 2014, 03:53 PM) The first one reminds me of my engine off issue when slowing down on toll gate barrier. Luckily have no re-occur since then. Don't know why it happen then either. i had it once also..slow down and then try to accelerate but sudd engine off..not sure what happen either QUOTE(h3b388 @ Apr 11 2014, 04:09 PM) Yea.its whn going uphill,n I slow down for the bumper only the engine went off. Hopefully its nothing serious. go to sc and check..maybe sensor problem
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aki^what	Apr 14 2014, 01:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #276
New Member Junior Member 45 posts Joined: Jan 2007	service 20k can follow like v12kompressor recommend in gaga thread ka? manyak power marketing. my friend's gaga, a girl, 15k service go follow SC. use fully, next service 25k, so free labour gaga 20k service cannot get. walao...
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TSFubar20	Apr 14 2014, 01:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #277
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(aki^what @ Apr 14 2014, 01:30 PM) service 20k can follow like v12kompressor recommend in gaga thread ka? manyak power marketing. my friend's gaga, a girl, 15k service go follow SC. use fully, next service 25k, so free labour gaga 20k service cannot get. walao... Can follow but with disclaimer lo.
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iskazulka	Apr 14 2014, 01:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #278
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	did someone mentioned a girl drive saga!!!????? this 2 weeks get used sitting inside persona (last week friend mia car went outstation to ipoh) & just now in company car. persona ftw! This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 14 2014, 01:47 PM
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TSFubar20	Apr 14 2014, 01:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #279
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 14 2014, 01:43 PM) did someone mentioned a girl drive saga!!!????? Go back to ur thread lah, you hamsup fella.
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TSFubar20	Apr 14 2014, 01:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #280
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 14 2014, 01:43 PM) did someone mentioned a girl drive saga!!!????? If u read it properly, he mention that the friend's gaga is a girl. So, funker want to hump some car exhaust pipe is it?
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iskazulka	Apr 14 2014, 01:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #281
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 14 2014, 02:45 PM) Go back to ur thread lah, you hamsup fella. i have experience in persona liao. so wanna lepaking here.
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V12Kompressor	Apr 14 2014, 01:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #282
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	fuyoh, got people actually read that shit I wrote.
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TSFubar20	Apr 14 2014, 01:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #283
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 14 2014, 01:49 PM) i have experience in persona liao. so wanna lepaking here. Apa ranjiao experience lu ada? QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 14 2014, 01:50 PM) fuyoh, got people actually read that shit I wrote. Ask him to become your fan club president.
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aki^what	Apr 14 2014, 01:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #284
New Member Junior Member 45 posts Joined: Jan 2007	knowledge is power. ksian to that girl ma. she just ok ok at the SC and then go bising at others too mahal... wtf. x1r oso take everytime go service soo rich yet so bising... i give her what shit u wrote as a guide. This post has been edited by aki^what: Apr 14 2014, 01:56 PM
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aki^what	Apr 14 2014, 01:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #285
New Member Junior Member 45 posts Joined: Jan 2007	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 14 2014, 01:46 PM) If u read it properly, he mention that the friend's gaga is a girl. So, funker want to hump some car exhaust pipe is it? Oh my English....
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iskazulka	Apr 14 2014, 02:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #286
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(aki^what @ Apr 14 2014, 02:56 PM) knowledge is power. ksian to that girl ma. she just ok ok at the SC and then go bising at others too mahal... wtf. x1r oso take everytime go service soo rich yet so bising... i give her what shit u wrote as a guide. bawah pokok servis manyak murah lor. btw, saga cvt servis 40K manyak mahal wor btw, it's only the references. later u jgn salahkan my friend if anything happens ok.
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iskazulka	Apr 14 2014, 02:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #287
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(aki^what @ Apr 14 2014, 02:56 PM) knowledge is power. ksian to that girl ma. she just ok ok at the SC and then go bising at others too mahal... wtf. x1r oso take everytime go service soo rich yet so bising... i give her what shit u wrote as a guide. bawah pokok servis manyak murah lor. btw, saga cvt servis 40K manyak mahal wor btw, it's only the references. later u jgn salahkan my friend if anything happens ok.
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aki^what	Apr 14 2014, 02:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #288
New Member Junior Member 45 posts Joined: Jan 2007	thats for her to decide. she worry bout the warranty la.. 40k cvt servis right for gaga? how much?
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TSFubar20	Apr 14 2014, 02:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #289
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 14 2014, 02:04 PM) bawah pokok servis manyak murah lor. btw, saga cvt servis 40K manyak mahal wor btw, it's only the references. later u jgn salahkan my friend if anything happens ok. QUOTE(aki^what @ Apr 14 2014, 02:06 PM) thats for her to decide. she worry bout the warranty la.. 40k cvt servis right for gaga? how much? Apa ni? Sini gaga thread ah?
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aki^what	Apr 14 2014, 02:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #290
New Member Junior Member 45 posts Joined: Jan 2007	rojak thread. thanks again
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V12Kompressor	Apr 14 2014, 02:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #291
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	QUOTE(aki^what @ Apr 14 2014, 02:06 PM) thats for her to decide. she worry bout the warranty la.. 40k cvt servis right for gaga? how much? Y U NO READ FIRST PAGE !!?!?!!!?
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iskazulka	Apr 14 2014, 02:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #292
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	apparently he did not fully read it.
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aki^what	Apr 14 2014, 02:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #293
New Member Junior Member 45 posts Joined: Jan 2007	the price or the mileage? just want to reconfirm. since u are already here so I ask la.
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TSFubar20	Apr 14 2014, 02:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #294
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(aki^what @ Apr 14 2014, 02:43 PM) the price or the mileage? just want to reconfirm. since u are already here so I ask la. Aduhai, go ask there or read at there lo.
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iskazulka	Apr 14 2014, 02:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #295
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	although we are here, we talk persona language.
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aki^what	Apr 14 2014, 03:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #296
New Member Junior Member 45 posts Joined: Jan 2007	sori all bros here persona 4AT if got persona FLX all bros wan buy or dun want? me dun want. no feeling of gear change. just a noob opinion.
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V12Kompressor	Apr 14 2014, 03:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #297
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	who say FLX no feeling of gear change? just buy FLX MANUAL and change your own gear and you get the feeling of gear change lo.
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dares	Apr 14 2014, 03:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #298
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(aki^what @ Apr 14 2014, 03:30 PM) sori all bros here persona 4AT if got persona FLX all bros wan buy or dun want? me dun want. no feeling of gear change. just a noob opinion. You want gear change feeling, just switch on SAT, shift shock til you hngghh. New Honda City CVT pun tade this feature You see, Proton memang jaga all their customers. This post has been edited by dares: Apr 14 2014, 03:46 PM
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iskazulka	Apr 14 2014, 03:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #299
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	FLX cvt just use the SAT button to have gear change feel.
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iskazulka	Apr 14 2014, 03:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #300
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(dares @ Apr 14 2014, 04:46 PM) You want gear change feeling, just switch on SAT, shift shock til you hngghh. New Honda City CVT pun tade this feature You see, Proton memang jaga all their customers. proton customers all hamsap one suka hngghhh.
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aki^what	Apr 14 2014, 03:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #301
New Member Junior Member 45 posts Joined: Jan 2007	but then SAT got , so what point of CVT? haha...why all whistling... me unwanted here a? This post has been edited by aki^what: Apr 14 2014, 03:58 PM
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iskazulka	Apr 14 2014, 04:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #302
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(aki^what @ Apr 14 2014, 04:58 PM) but then SAT got , so what point of CVT? haha...why all whistling... me unwanted here a? SAT also act like Overdrive button liao. whistling means we make a joke, troll etc. if not, pepel will take it seriously.
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aki^what	Apr 14 2014, 04:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #303
New Member Junior Member 45 posts Joined: Jan 2007	saga fl use same 4AT gearbox as persona or not the same?? I think persona 4AT for me, as a noob, is pretty good as in downshifting when uphill and in corners... Overdrive meaning consume more petrol right? like old proton cars I remember my friend said OD for racing2. haha
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iskazulka	Apr 14 2014, 05:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #304
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(aki^what @ Apr 14 2014, 05:50 PM) saga fl use same 4AT gearbox as persona or not the same?? I think persona 4AT for me, as a noob, is pretty good as in downshifting when uphill and in corners... Overdrive meaning consume more petrol right? like old proton cars I remember my friend said OD for racing2. haha overdrive use for overtaking liao. u heavy footing can consume more petrol. bukan salah overdrive, salahkan driver sendiri. same case if use wanna overtake, drop to 3rd gear then vroom vroom la. This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 14 2014, 05:25 PM
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 14 2014, 05:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #305
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(aki^what @ Apr 14 2014, 04:50 PM) saga fl use same 4AT gearbox as persona or not the same?? I think persona 4AT for me, as a noob, is pretty good as in downshifting when uphill and in corners... Overdrive meaning consume more petrol right? like old proton cars I remember my friend said OD for racing2. haha I personally think that the gearbox works very well if you know how to play around with the position of the throttle, although sometimes it can be annoying when it registers a light push as a heavy push and the car jolts forward before settling down to the acceleration pace I want.
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V12Kompressor	Apr 14 2014, 05:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #306
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	between saga 4AT and persona 4AT, I'd take persona 4AT anytime. Yes, it is eager to downshift but that make use of the campro's powerband more efficiently (from a I-dont-give-a-damn-on-FC perspective).
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iskazulka	Apr 14 2014, 05:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #307
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 14 2014, 06:22 PM) between saga 4AT and persona 4AT, I'd take persona 4AT anytime. Yes, it is eager to downshift but that make use of the campro's powerband more efficiently (from a I-dont-give-a-damn-on-FC perspective). just like use persona as company car, like i witnessed this morning, inside the persona..
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aki^what	Apr 14 2014, 05:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| IPv6 \| Post #308
New Member Junior Member 45 posts Joined: Jan 2007	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 14 2014, 05:28 PM) just like use persona as company car, like i witnessed this morning, inside the persona.. what u witnessed?
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 14 2014, 06:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #309
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(aki^what @ Apr 14 2014, 05:39 PM) what u witnessed? Viva overtaking him.
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wenco	Apr 14 2014, 08:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #310
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: May 2011	Just got my 1st service done at a authorize SC nearby my area . It cost me RM160 , I was like meh . (Pattern Banyak, they said it come in a package taruk Viper Sampoo , n fuel injector cleaner , batt knob protector ) All is not listed on the 1st page u guys mention here . Actually , can I reject their package n just use the basic items ? Oh yea , they add a 6% gov tax . Huh ?? This post has been edited by wenco: Apr 14 2014, 08:17 PM
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kennywee92	Apr 14 2014, 09:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #311
New Member Junior Member 34 posts Joined: Aug 2011	QUOTE(wenco @ Apr 14 2014, 08:15 PM) Just got my 1st service done at a authorize SC nearby my area . It cost me RM160 , I was like meh . (Pattern Banyak, they said it come in a package taruk Viper Sampoo , n fuel injector cleaner , batt knob protector ) All is not listed on the 1st page u guys mention here . Actually , can I reject their package n just use the basic items ? Oh yea , they add a 6% gov tax . Huh ?? Where is your area? You have the rights to reject it actually.
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wenco	Apr 14 2014, 10:10 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #312
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: May 2011	QUOTE(kennywee92 @ Apr 14 2014, 09:00 PM) Where is your area? You have the rights to reject it actually. Here's the place : Pesona Mahir Sdn Bhd No 2, Jalan Damai Perdana 1/8a, Bandar Damai Perdana Cheras, Cheras 56100, Selangor Tel: 03-91003915 Fax: 03-91005633 Shall try bigger SC next round . So far I'm ok with those optional add on la . Just I doubt on that fuel injector cleaner . Personally , I dun think a new car will need that treatment , plus a rumor some of these stuff will leave residue inside the engine right ? He use Nasa brand , I dun know what is that actually
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nickzkuso	Apr 14 2014, 10:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #313
New Member Newbie 10 posts Joined: Jul 2012	QUOTE(wenco @ Apr 14 2014, 08:15 PM) Just got my 1st service done at a authorize SC nearby my area . It cost me RM160 , I was like meh . (Pattern Banyak, they said it come in a package taruk Viper Sampoo , n fuel injector cleaner , batt knob protector ) All is not listed on the 1st page u guys mention here . Actually , can I reject their package n just use the basic items ? Oh yea , they add a 6% gov tax . Huh ?? you can reject it next time and if they dont allow you to reject then just go to other sc.. yes, there is 6% tax
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iskazulka	Apr 15 2014, 08:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #314
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(wenco @ Apr 14 2014, 09:15 PM) Just got my 1st service done at a authorize SC nearby my area . It cost me RM160 , I was like meh . (Pattern Banyak, they said it come in a package taruk Viper Sampoo , n fuel injector cleaner , batt knob protector ) All is not listed on the 1st page u guys mention here . Actually , can I reject their package n just use the basic items ? Oh yea , they add a 6% gov tax . Huh ?? y u just reject that time? QUOTE(wenco @ Apr 14 2014, 11:10 PM) Here's the place : Pesona Mahir Sdn Bhd No 2, Jalan Damai Perdana 1/8a, Bandar Damai Perdana Cheras, Cheras 56100, Selangor Tel: 03-91003915 Fax: 03-91005633 Shall try bigger SC next round . So far I'm ok with those optional add on la . Just I doubt on that fuel injector cleaner . Personally , I dun think a new car will need that treatment , plus a rumor some of these stuff will leave residue inside the engine right ? He use Nasa brand , I dun know what is that actually bigger SC or smaller SC no problem. it's the consumers right. we ourselves need to be educated. richfag spotted didn't care about the add-on. ONLY engine oil, oil filter and oil gasket drain plug. so u didn't care if u have to paid higher than actual supposedly one? QUOTE Avoid (Can be taken if you have too much money or strike Toto ): - Magnatrap - X1R engine treatment - whatever treatment or booster they gonna offer to you u want fuel injector cleaner, just pump Caltex with Techron. better, pump ron97. why try to avoid X1R or any in your engine: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=67253334 This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 15 2014, 08:13 AM
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Cavino	Apr 15 2014, 09:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #315
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(wenco @ Apr 14 2014, 10:10 PM) Here's the place : Pesona Mahir Sdn Bhd No 2, Jalan Damai Perdana 1/8a, Bandar Damai Perdana Cheras, Cheras 56100, Selangor Tel: 03-91003915 Fax: 03-91005633 Shall try bigger SC next round . So far I'm ok with those optional add on la . Just I doubt on that fuel injector cleaner . Personally , I dun think a new car will need that treatment , plus a rumor some of these stuff will leave residue inside the engine right ? He use Nasa brand , I dun know what is that actually No need to doubt. There is no need for treatment, addictive, whatsoever especially for a new car. Even a 5 years old car no need treatment. My cars even over 10 years never have any "treatment". It works just fine as long as you keep to the maintenance schedule (unless you got a lemon car like our thrown from Penang bridge punya car owner). btw. I don't consider throttle cleaning, decarbonizing, etc as treatment. Those are workmanship, not just "liquid" treatment items. These might be necessary after driving cars for years and those carbon, etc accumulated depending on driving style and environment. This post has been edited by Cavino: Apr 15 2014, 09:17 AM
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nickzkuso	Apr 15 2014, 12:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #316
New Member Newbie 10 posts Joined: Jul 2012	any persona standard version and latest here has change to eagle eye headlamp? This post has been edited by nickzkuso: Apr 15 2014, 12:12 PM
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akh2920	Apr 15 2014, 12:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #317
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	Dear all sifu~ After got new car, is it wise to use it for long distance travel immediately (highway)? Good or bad?
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V12Kompressor	Apr 15 2014, 12:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #318
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 15 2014, 12:12 PM) Dear all sifu~ After got new car, is it wise to use it for long distance travel immediately (highway)? Good or bad? good for properly breaking in the engine.
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iskazulka	Apr 15 2014, 12:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #319
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	akh2920 QUOTE(davidke20 @ Aug 29 2012, 11:37 AM) Break in doesn't mean drive like a snail. Just drive like casual weekend driver. Don't purposely slam on the pedal. You can still do 120kmh, what matter is it take how long to reach 120 from 0. Old skol logic is, when engine newly fitted, there's micron difference on each cylinder that cramp up with piston ring. In order to fit in piston, the ring will have to be compressed, after fit in it will expand and hold on the engine block with minimal tolerance. Every combustion cycle, these piston rings will grind through the block inner bore(when piston going up & down). Your dad will ask you to drive 80 bcoz he think you drive too fast. This is a good chance to scare you and put a speed limit on your head. Your SA ask you to drive 80, so you won't complain drink fuel like water! New car so tight, sure will gazzle more fuel geh. If sumore drive like a muoron, sure can go 30cent/km. Therefore, pushing too much on a newly assembled engine can greatly increased wear & tear. Break in period is a grind in process. Drive below 80 meaning you're shaping your engine to drive below 80 in future! When you shape your engine, you shape it into what you want it to be. Like when you crafting a wooden goose, you don't use a saw to craft although its fast(slam on full throttle to get to 120kmh), instead you'll be using a crafting tool to slowly grind the edge to achieve smooth and curvy surface(gradually increase speed to 120kmh instead). Hope this explain well.
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akh2920	Apr 15 2014, 12:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #320
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 15 2014, 12:14 PM) good for properly breaking in the engine. Thanks!! But I got heard people say that the rev must be kept below 3k for new car? izzit true?
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V12Kompressor	Apr 15 2014, 12:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #321
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 15 2014, 12:16 PM) Thanks!! But I got heard people say that the rev must be kept below 3k for new car? izzit true? the right term is "varying" keep your rpm at different point at different interval. combination of slow driving, cruse driving, fast driving and moronic driving.
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akh2920	Apr 15 2014, 12:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #322
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 15 2014, 12:16 PM) akh2920 Thanks for the info!!
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akh2920	Apr 15 2014, 12:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #323
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 15 2014, 12:18 PM) the right term is "varying" keep your rpm at different point at different interval. combination of slow driving, cruse driving, fast driving and moronic driving. Ahhh I got the idea~ Thanks I will try it Might get my new Nana SV later~ Will report in after got the car
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iskazulka	Apr 15 2014, 12:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #324
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 15 2014, 01:20 PM) Ahhh I got the idea~ Thanks I will try it Might get my new Nana SV later~ Will report in after got the car 1K service is very important. QUOTE(davidke20 @ Jan 23 2013, 10:57 AM) Cum listen listen listen, Plotong set 1k, 5k & 10k free servis is meant for furture warranty purposes. Its not about void or no void warranty, is about maintain the new engine clean to avoid FUTURE complication. Why 1k servis? Its bcoz all engine parts are new, during this run in period, there will be lots of grinding inside the engine, as metal surface rubbing happened, expect metal dust mixed in the engine oil(so as gear oil). So, after 1k run in period your oil filter will be suckalot with metal dust liao hence the 1k servis is applied. 5k will be the same reason, so as 10k. Maintain engine cleaniness in the early stage can avoid many complication in future, such as hutan bakar white smoke/black smoke. For me, I dun really care whether its semi synthetic or fully synthetic. Avoid metal dust is more critical its not wrong to say synthetic oil can last 10k, the thing is it will be too dirty. wait until u get ur car first. much more for u to learn btw, better take almerra or vios This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 15 2014, 12:35 PM
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flex3x	Apr 15 2014, 01:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #325
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Aug 2010	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 15 2014, 12:20 PM) Ahhh I got the idea~ Thanks I will try it Might get my new Nana SV later~ Will report in after got the car Congrats bro
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akh2920	Apr 15 2014, 02:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #326
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 15 2014, 12:25 PM) 1K service is very important. wait until u get ur car first. much more for u to learn btw, better take almerra or vios Haha ya I am prepared to learn, first time drive a brand new car If take almera/vios I would have to eat kangkung everyday~ QUOTE(flex3x @ Apr 15 2014, 01:01 PM) Congrats bro Thanks hehe
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Beogatts	Apr 15 2014, 04:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #327
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	If anyone able to share their journey with persona. My PE is 140k KM of mileage n its 2010 made (MT). what major things ive changed recently: -IAFM -lightened crank pulley (poisoned) + underdrive belt -head gasket not sure what i have missed, but other major things were changed before 130k: -timing belt -brake disc kindly share so that all the persona users can be aware of parts to change. Thanks
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iskazulka	Apr 15 2014, 04:43 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #328
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 15 2014, 05:40 PM) If anyone able to share their journey with persona. My PE is 140k KM of mileage n its 2010 made (MT). what major things ive changed recently: -IAFM -lightened crank pulley (poisoned) + underdrive belt -head gasket not sure what i have missed, but other major things were changed before 130k: -timing belt -brake disc kindly share so that all the persona users can be aware of parts to change. Thanks first page already have. journey with persona? i know some journey buttsek other car, ini scratch sana scratch, bang here bang there, sold persona buy preve... got honda city give wife, then buy persona, waifu tak mau, then ken keep use persona ... sold lemon persona then jump over penang bridge later MIA.. bla bla bla... SV owners complain door hard to close.. bla bla bla.. This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 15 2014, 04:48 PM
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Beogatts	Apr 15 2014, 05:01 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #329
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 15 2014, 04:43 PM) first page already have. journey with persona? i know some journey buttsek other car, ini scratch sana scratch, bang here bang there, sold persona buy preve... got honda city give wife, then buy persona, waifu tak mau, then ken keep use persona ... sold lemon persona then jump over penang bridge later MIA.. bla bla bla... SV owners complain door hard to close.. bla bla bla.. hahaha. well, there must be some non-complaint owners to share some info/solution.
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iskazulka	Apr 15 2014, 05:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #330
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 15 2014, 06:01 PM) hahaha. well, there must be some non-complaint owners to share some info/solution. this thread become ghost town only. urs ady mileage clocked over 130km ady. apa lagi cina mau most of us not yet pass even 80k . mostly below 30k. seldom pass 40k iinm. non complaint owners go rev happy ady what for solution. lol. usualy follow the R3 concept. Race.Rosaked.Repair. This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 15 2014, 05:15 PM
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Cavino	Apr 15 2014, 05:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #331
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 15 2014, 05:06 PM) this thread become ghost town only. urs ady mileage clocked over 130km ady. apa lagi cina mau most of us not yet pass even 80k . mostly below 30k. seldom pass 40k iinm. non complaint owners go rev happy ady what for solution. lol. I mau upgrade car to $110K and above....for my daily drive. Tapi itu affirmative action is making me poorer by the day, electric naik, sugar naik, makanan naik, only gaji tak naik. Make me cannot naik thinking about it.
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iskazulka	Apr 15 2014, 05:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #332
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 15 2014, 06:14 PM) I mau upgrade car to $110K and above....for my daily drive. Tapi itu affirmative action is making me poorer by the day, electric naik, sugar naik, makanan naik, only gaji tak naik. Make my gugu cannot naik thinking about it . if got cash, go buy second hand car, buy from singapore one lor. summore cheaper. This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 15 2014, 05:21 PM
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Beogatts	Apr 15 2014, 05:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #333
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 15 2014, 05:06 PM) this thread become ghost town only. urs ady mileage clocked over 130km ady. apa lagi cina mau most of us not yet pass even 80k . mostly below 30k. seldom pass 40k iinm. non complaint owners go rev happy ady what for solution. lol. lol im tryin to prove to my lil son that persona is like wira 1990's u all receive br1m n used it for vios d/payment ka
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Cavino	Apr 15 2014, 05:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #334
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 15 2014, 05:20 PM) if got cash, go buy second hand car, buy from singapore one lor. summore cheaper. If I got cash, I won't be in this thread like that pergi Singapore drive audi punya budak.
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Cavino	Apr 15 2014, 05:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #335
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 15 2014, 05:25 PM) lol im tryin to prove to my lil son that persona is like wira 1990's u all receive br1m n used it for vios d/payment ka I don't want makan rasuah from gomen.....with our own money.
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dares	Apr 15 2014, 05:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #336
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 15 2014, 05:14 PM) I mau upgrade car to $110K and above....for my daily drive. Tapi itu affirmative action is making me poorer by the day, electric naik, sugar naik, makanan naik, only gaji tak naik. Make me cannot naik thinking about it. buy expensib car, have to drive carefully coz takut scratch or bang X6. While those hamkaling Viva drive like father owns the road and because you takut they bang you, you termasuk longkang. Drive a sh!t car and own the road, or own an expensib car but drive like a pu$$y? This post has been edited by dares: Apr 15 2014, 05:35 PM
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Cavino	Apr 15 2014, 05:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #337
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(dares @ Apr 15 2014, 05:33 PM) buy expensib car, have to drive carefully coz takut scratch or bang X6. While those hamkaling Viva drive like father owns the road and because you takut they bang you, you termasuk longkang. For what? I tot so too.....initially. For those who drive a moderately affordable car, that is the idea (takut scratch here, bang there). The thing is when you're rich enuf to buy expensive car, chances are you can afford to scratch here and bang there. I already seen so many richer buggers, drive nice car, but don't really take care of it, coz chances are they're gonna change car after 3 to 5 years. Unfortunately for middle/lower income ppl like me, even PE also takut scratch here bang there coz this car gonna stay with me for umpteenth years. When younger, that is not my thinking but at my age, got extra money (for limited cash ppl), masuk rumah, masuk saving, masuk isteri, masuk anak, masuk cheapo mistress ala girlfriend, not enuf to upgrade car anymore. Drive a sh!t car and own the road, or own an expensib car but drive like a pu$$y? whistling.gif You come ambang botanic klang, these ppl drive expensive car and drive like gangster coz they got so many expensive cars at home... This post has been edited by Cavino: Apr 15 2014, 05:46 PM
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dares	Apr 15 2014, 05:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #338
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 15 2014, 05:39 PM) The thing is when you're rich enuf to buy expensive car, chances are you can afford to scratch here and bang there. I already seen so many richer buggers, drive nice car, but don't really take care of it, coz chances are they're gonna change car after 3 to 5 years. This is the key phrase when rich enuf ape pun boley....if ngam ngam can afford that price bracket of cars, better think twice
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Cavino	Apr 15 2014, 05:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #339
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(dares @ Apr 15 2014, 05:45 PM) This is the key phrase when rich enuf ape pun boley....if ngam ngam can afford that price bracket of cars, better think twice Ha !! That is what most middle income ppl fall into....for the fact if ngam ngam can afford means they really cannot afford.....I'm that example.
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jasonloh7906	Apr 15 2014, 06:02 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #340
New Member Newbie 2 posts Joined: Nov 2010	QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Apr 15 2014, 12:11 PM) any persona standard version and latest here has change to eagle eye headlamp? why? not satisfied with your retrofit? QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 15 2014, 12:12 PM) Dear all sifu~ After got new car, is it wise to use it for long distance travel immediately (highway)? Good or bad? no real statistics to show it is good or it is bad. for mine I travelled highway too when it is new. QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 15 2014, 04:40 PM) If anyone able to share their journey with persona. My PE is 140k KM of mileage n its 2010 made (MT). what major things ive changed recently: -IAFM -lightened crank pulley (poisoned) + underdrive belt -head gasket not sure what i have missed, but other major things were changed before 130k: -timing belt -brake disc kindly share so that all the persona users can be aware of parts to change. Thanks parts to change differ as different people different wear and tear. some people have different demand. Mine is 2009 with 127k km. what i have always do is change engine oil, change gear oil. well most are maintainance. of coz timing belt and those belt belt thing also changed edi. anyway, why changed your head gasket? and brake disc?
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dares	Apr 15 2014, 06:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #341
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 15 2014, 05:47 PM) Ha !! That is what most middle income ppl fall into....for the fact if ngam ngam can afford means they really cannot afford.....I'm that example. Says you who dunno owns how many cars This post has been edited by dares: Apr 15 2014, 06:46 PM
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fordminor	Apr 15 2014, 06:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #342
New Member Junior Member 44 posts Joined: Jan 2010	hi all, my persona AT tends to jerk when aircon kicks in... like going to mati engine. Also, if i don't hit the pedal when it's on D gear, it's jerking too... Can anyone help me on this?
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davidke20	Apr 15 2014, 09:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #343
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Mar 2012 From: Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 15 2014, 12:16 PM) Thanks!! But I got heard people say that the rev must be kept below 3k for new car? izzit true? Doesn't really matter, just drive. Makesure you don't skip the 1k service will do. The problem with breaking in is always about how much debris you shred off from the new engine, and to drain those metal debris out before it start to grind the internals.
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davidke20	Apr 15 2014, 09:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #344
New Member Newbie 3 posts Joined: Mar 2012 From: Kuala Lumpur	QUOTE(flex3x @ Apr 15 2014, 01:01 PM) Congrats bro I tot u went Thailand to Thai happy ady So fast kambek jor ar? Mahkai I still dunno keep calling your phone, dunno kena how many roaming charges jor since all goes into Thai voice mail
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nickzkuso	Apr 15 2014, 10:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #345
New Member Newbie 10 posts Joined: Jul 2012	QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 15 2014, 06:02 PM) why? not satisfied with your retrofit? no real statistics to show it is good or it is bad. for mine I travelled highway too when it is new. parts to change differ as different people different wear and tear. some people have different demand. Mine is 2009 with 127k km. what i have always do is change engine oil, change gear oil. well most are maintainance. of coz timing belt and those belt belt thing also changed edi. anyway, why changed your head gasket? and brake disc? saje mau tanya
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Beogatts	Apr 16 2014, 04:45 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #346
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 15 2014, 06:02 PM) why? not satisfied with your retrofit? no real statistics to show it is good or it is bad. for mine I travelled highway too when it is new. parts to change differ as different people different wear and tear. some people have different demand. Mine is 2009 with 127k km. what i have always do is change engine oil, change gear oil. well most are maintainance. of coz timing belt and those belt belt thing also changed edi. anyway, why changed your head gasket? and brake disc? Head gasket changed coz got licking at engine head. Mayb coz i use it daily driving 110kmh. Brakedisc is wear n tear. Mine was nipis edy..eaten by perf brake pads..
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Cavino	Apr 16 2014, 07:48 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #347
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 16 2014, 04:45 AM) Head gasket changed coz got licking at engine head. Mayb coz i use it daily driving 110kmh. Brakedisc is wear n tear. Mine was nipis edy..eaten by perf brake pads.. If gasket leak coz you always drive at 110km/h which is actually one of the optimal speed for campro, in engine boleh buang.
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Beogatts	Apr 16 2014, 09:25 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #348
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 16 2014, 07:48 AM) If gasket leak coz you always drive at 110km/h which is actually one of the optimal speed for campro, in engine boleh buang. lol i think i meant the head gasket rubber .. if change the whole head gasket, confirm i throw.
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iskazulka	Apr 16 2014, 09:47 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #349
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 16 2014, 05:45 AM) Head gasket changed coz got licking at engine head. Mayb coz i use it daily driving 110kmh. Brakedisc is wear n tear. Mine was nipis edy..eaten by perf brake pads.. licking or leaking? u lick engine head deswai change head gasket if licking better fix licking Fubar90's butt. leaking normal wor for any car.
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Beogatts	Apr 16 2014, 10:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #350
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 16 2014, 09:47 AM) licking or leaking? u lick engine head deswai change head gasket if licking better fix licking Fubar90's butt. leaking normal wor for any car. darn. is there any homonym checker in lyn forum.
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iskazulka	Apr 16 2014, 10:15 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #351
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 16 2014, 11:07 AM) darn. is there any homonym checker in lyn forum. lol. licking vs leaking breaking vs braking
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TSFubar20	Apr 16 2014, 10:33 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #352
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 16 2014, 09:47 AM) licking or leaking? u lick engine head deswai change head gasket if licking better fix licking Fubar90's butt. leaking normal wor for any car. Apa lagi sohem mau?
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akh2920	Apr 16 2014, 03:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #353
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	deleted This post has been edited by akh2920: Apr 16 2014, 03:23 PM
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TSFubar20	Apr 16 2014, 03:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #354
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 16 2014, 03:22 PM) It is all depends on the perception of the guy towards "clubbing". For me, I dont think going to a club for birthday celebration purpose is wrong (unless the friends are mostly consist of lala guys lol). Apatah lagi getting raped. Hence I would care her more, and of course want her to take this as a lesson. But different story la if she go celebrate for a guy's birthday alone without other friends... that is spanar lol Apa tibai lu post clubbing kat sini? Mabuk ah? This post has been edited by Fubar20: Apr 16 2014, 03:26 PM
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akh2920	Apr 16 2014, 03:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #355
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 16 2014, 03:24 PM) Apa tibai lu post clubbing kat sini? Mabuk ah? ahhhh kantoi why u so fast see it i dont dare to open multiple thread in multi tab already
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TSFubar20	Apr 16 2014, 03:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #356
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 16 2014, 03:25 PM) ahhhh kantoi why u so fast see it i dont dare to open multiple thread in multi tab already ^^ See above lah. This post has been edited by Fubar20: Apr 16 2014, 03:30 PM
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akh2920	Apr 16 2014, 03:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #357
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 16 2014, 03:28 PM) ^^ See above lah. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3195431/+0&#entry67544920 <----- ini tered punya fault oh gawd waiiii
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jasonloh7906	Apr 16 2014, 03:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #358
New Member Newbie 2 posts Joined: Nov 2010	QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Apr 15 2014, 10:08 PM) saje mau tanya lol. mine punya drl pun sudah remove. stock stock. QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 16 2014, 04:45 AM) Head gasket changed coz got licking at engine head. Mayb coz i use it daily driving 110kmh. Brakedisc is wear n tear. Mine was nipis edy..eaten by perf brake pads.. hmm, mind to know what brand of performance brake pad you using? coz mine is still fine till now. i am using rapid stop for front and ultrex for the rear. i am also very frequent highway speed so I dun think is because of that you got leaking. normally leaking should be due to you high rev or maybe can say is somehow considered wear and tear.
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Beogatts	Apr 16 2014, 04:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #359
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 16 2014, 03:33 PM) lol. mine punya drl pun sudah remove. stock stock. hmm, mind to know what brand of performance brake pad you using? coz mine is still fine till now. i am using rapid stop for front and ultrex for the rear. i am also very frequent highway speed so I dun think is because of that you got leaking. normally leaking should be due to you high rev or maybe can say is somehow considered wear and tear. 0k - 20k mileage, proton stock bpad. 20k - 65k , used rapid stop. 65k - 92k normal pad mintye i think (still got half). 92k found my discs were like this ][ so i bought brembo standard discs together with pads (wanted to feel like fresh ) mine is b-line & non-sv so no rear disc. n yea i consider its wear n tear, i rev smtimes only when goin back to hometown n karak highway. max rev rpm 5.5k. but going work daily max rev 4k rpm which i dunt think it is high for macam pro engine. also travelled alot. s'ngor to south, north, north east (wife's kampung) & east (my kampung) of pen msia. even reached songkhla.
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Cavino	Apr 16 2014, 04:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #360
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 16 2014, 04:05 PM) 0k - 20k mileage, proton stock bpad. 20k - 65k , used rapid stop. 65k - 92k normal pad mintye i think (still got half). 92k found my discs were like this ][ so i bought brembo standard discs together with pads (wanted to feel like fresh ) mine is b-line & non-sv so no rear disc. n yea i consider its wear n tear, i rev smtimes only when goin back to hometown n karak highway. max rev rpm 5.5k. but going work daily max rev 4k rpm which i dunt think it is high for macam pro engine. also travelled alot. s'ngor to south, north, north east (wife's kampung) & east (my kampung) of pen msia. even reached songkhla. For auto, I rarely exceed 3.7k rpm, that is already at 140km/h. You daily also already reach over 4K rpm...
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iskazulka	Apr 16 2014, 04:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #361
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 16 2014, 05:12 PM) For auto, I rarely exceed 3.7k rpm, that is already at 140km/h. You daily also already reach over 4K rpm... i drive 60km/h only
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Cavino	Apr 16 2014, 04:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #362
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 16 2014, 04:13 PM) i drive 60km/h only Inside your housing estate only. Outside 160km/h.
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iskazulka	Apr 16 2014, 04:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #363
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 16 2014, 05:16 PM) Inside your housing estate only. Outside 160km/h. never exceed 110km/h. never exceed pass speed limit.
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Cavino	Apr 16 2014, 04:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #364
Enthusiast Senior Member 842 posts Joined: May 2009	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 16 2014, 04:19 PM) never exceed 110km/h. never exceed pass speed limit. Already pass speed limit of Kesas and Federal Highway.
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Beogatts	Apr 16 2014, 04:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #365
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 16 2014, 04:12 PM) For auto, I rarely exceed 3.7k rpm, that is already at 140km/h. You daily also already reach over 4K rpm... put it on D3 gear sure can reach 4k .
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iskazulka	Apr 16 2014, 04:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #366
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 16 2014, 05:23 PM) Already pass speed limit of Kesas and Federal Highway. 110km/h is speed limit for PLUS highway liao. federal highway 80km/h also max. not exceed it. MEX 80km/h only. itu baru la unker driving
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Beogatts	Apr 16 2014, 04:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #367
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 16 2014, 04:26 PM) 110km/h is speed limit for PLUS highway liao. federal highway 80km/h also max. not exceed it. MEX 80km/h only. itu baru la unker driving low maintenance ma.
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V12Kompressor	Apr 16 2014, 04:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #368
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	Besraya Eastern Extension Expressway 50km/h.
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iskazulka	Apr 16 2014, 04:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #369
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 16 2014, 05:37 PM) Besraya Eastern Extension Expressway 50km/h. already open ka?
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TSFubar20	Apr 16 2014, 04:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #370
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 16 2014, 04:26 PM) put it on D3 gear sure can reach 4k . Apa D3? D tak cukup meh? Normal driving no need until 4K rpm already.
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jasonloh7906	Apr 16 2014, 05:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #371
New Member Newbie 2 posts Joined: Nov 2010	QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 16 2014, 04:05 PM) 0k - 20k mileage, proton stock bpad. 20k - 65k , used rapid stop. 65k - 92k normal pad mintye i think (still got half). 92k found my discs were like this ][ so i bought brembo standard discs together with pads (wanted to feel like fresh ) mine is b-line & non-sv so no rear disc. n yea i consider its wear n tear, i rev smtimes only when goin back to hometown n karak highway. max rev rpm 5.5k. but going work daily max rev 4k rpm which i dunt think it is high for macam pro engine. also travelled alot. s'ngor to south, north, north east (wife's kampung) & east (my kampung) of pen msia. even reached songkhla. i see. maybe no rear disc lead to more wear and tear to the front disc. not really sure. but my disc brake from 0k mileage use until 40k. if rev in city until 4k can understand. highway if top gear at 4k means 150kmh. also, you are having LCP and still need to rev so high meh? dun really matter of your max rev how much. is the frequent rev you are in. if i sometimes rev redline but most of the time low rev, i assume those always rev high will have higher wear. but always drive below 2.5k rpm. QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 16 2014, 04:12 PM) For auto, I rarely exceed 3.7k rpm, that is already at 140km/h. You daily also already reach over 4K rpm... hahaha, i assume is in city. QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 16 2014, 04:13 PM) i drive 60km/h only you drive 60km/h only on gear 2. hahaha
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iskazulka	Apr 16 2014, 05:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #372
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 16 2014, 06:12 PM) you drive 60km/h only on gear 2. hahaha 60km/h in D.
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jasonloh7906	Apr 16 2014, 05:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #373
New Member Newbie 2 posts Joined: Nov 2010	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 16 2014, 04:56 PM) Apa D3? D tak cukup meh? Normal driving no need until 4K rpm already. driving style defers in individual mah.
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iskazulka	Apr 16 2014, 05:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #374
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TSFubar20	Apr 16 2014, 05:20 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #375
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 16 2014, 05:14 PM) driving style defers in individual mah. Then wear and tear faster dun complain here lo.
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Effy92	Apr 16 2014, 05:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #376
Getting Started Junior Member 294 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Malaysia	Just now i saw fire red persona sv taxi. I tot sv model cant be used as taxi. But why no saga sv taxi ?
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ckdenion	Apr 16 2014, 06:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #377
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	hi guys...my Works Engineering LCP still available for sell.any members here interested? new persona SV drivers?
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 16 2014, 06:18 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #378
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 16 2014, 06:18 PM) hi guys...my Works Engineering LCP still available for sell.any members here interested? new persona SV drivers? Camne berdagang ngan hantu?
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ckdenion	Apr 16 2014, 06:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #379
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 16 2014, 06:18 PM) Camne berdagang ngan hantu? i boleh suruh hantu lain tolong COD...
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 16 2014, 06:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #380
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 16 2014, 06:21 PM) i boleh suruh hantu lain tolong COD... Then COD location semua either at temple or bawah pokok? How many joss sticks to prepare? This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Apr 16 2014, 06:25 PM
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ckdenion	Apr 16 2014, 06:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #381
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 16 2014, 06:21 PM) Then COD location semua either at temple or bawah pokok? How many joss sticks to prepare? bawah pokok ke...temple ke...at ur house ke...pun boleh...joss stick worth RM250 will do..
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dares	Apr 16 2014, 06:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #382
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 16 2014, 06:18 PM) hi guys...my Works Engineering LCP still available for sell.any members here interested? new persona SV drivers? hantu air muncul kembali
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ckdenion	Apr 16 2014, 07:08 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #383
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(dares @ Apr 16 2014, 06:40 PM) hantu air muncul kembali first person to find will be u cz i owe u a TT...
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zapdos9	Apr 16 2014, 08:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #384
chittychitty bangbang Senior Member 523 posts Joined: Aug 2005 From: Another Dimensioin	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 16 2014, 06:18 PM) hi guys...my Works Engineering LCP still available for sell.any members here interested? new persona SV drivers?
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dares	Apr 16 2014, 08:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #385
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 16 2014, 07:08 PM) first person to find will be u cz i owe u a TT... sudah tawar hati
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TSFubar20	Apr 16 2014, 09:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #386
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 16 2014, 06:18 PM) hi guys...my Works Engineering LCP still available for sell.any members here interested? new persona SV drivers? HANTU!!! Ok, close thread.
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xandras	Apr 16 2014, 10:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #387
Getting Started Junior Member 52 posts Joined: Dec 2010	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 15 2014, 05:28 PM) If I got cash, I won't be in this thread like that pergi Singapore drive audi punya budak. Macam ada orang summon
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ckdenion	Apr 16 2014, 10:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #388
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 16 2014, 10:11 PM) Macam ada orang summon saw ur persona at the main road in front of the HLK electrical shop. u driver? O.o
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V12Kompressor	Apr 16 2014, 10:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #389
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	QUOTE(xandras @ Apr 16 2014, 10:11 PM) Macam ada orang summon havent eat maggie and go die yet.
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shelby_yong	Apr 16 2014, 11:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #390
On my way Senior Member 550 posts Joined: Jun 2009	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 16 2014, 10:24 PM) saw ur persona at the main road in front of the HLK electrical shop. u driver? O.o dia punya maid bawa untuk beli rice cooker
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xandras	Apr 17 2014, 12:56 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #391
Getting Started Junior Member 52 posts Joined: Dec 2010	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 16 2014, 10:24 PM) saw ur persona at the main road in front of the HLK electrical shop. u driver? O.o Huh? Bila tu? QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 16 2014, 10:27 PM) havent eat maggie and go die yet. Belum lagi.. Why eat maggie when you can fine dine? QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Apr 16 2014, 11:49 PM) dia punya maid bawa untuk beli rice cooker My maid bawa PE pergi tengok HLK mau angkat trade in ke tak. Trade in for a dish cleaner
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rush3508	Apr 17 2014, 03:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #392
New Member Junior Member 31 posts Joined: Sep 2005 From: K.L.	hi guys, Any Persona SV owners here having rear seat noise coming from the left hand side. As far as I know the SV do not have foldable rear seats as I cant find the hooks and latch. Anyone can advise?
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iskazulka	Apr 17 2014, 07:57 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #393
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Effy92 @ Apr 16 2014, 06:50 PM) Just now i saw fire red persona sv taxi. I tot sv model cant be used as taxi. But why no saga sv taxi ? any car can be taxi liao. saga sudah lama jadi taxi. apa lagi amoi mau? <revised> This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 17 2014, 09:09 AM
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TSFubar20	Apr 17 2014, 09:02 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #394
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 17 2014, 07:57 AM) any car can be taxi liao. saga sudah lama jadi taxi. apa lagi cina mau? Pls tone down ur comment regarding this. I know u r not racist but it will give bad impression to those new to the thread. Sekian terima kasih.
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Beogatts	Apr 17 2014, 09:04 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #395
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(jasonloh7906 @ Apr 16 2014, 05:12 PM) i see. maybe no rear disc lead to more wear and tear to the front disc. not really sure. but my disc brake from 0k mileage use until 40k. if rev in city until 4k can understand. highway if top gear at 4k means 150kmh. also, you are having LCP and still need to rev so high meh? dun really matter of your max rev how much. is the frequent rev you are in. if i sometimes rev redline but most of the time low rev, i assume those always rev high will have higher wear. but always drive below 2.5k rpm. hahaha, i assume is in city. you drive 60km/h only on gear 2. hahaha diff driving style i gess. after installed LCP, my 3rd gear has the best torque. hi rev usually on 3rd gear when overtaking n engine braking at downhill. QUOTE(rush3508 @ Apr 17 2014, 03:21 AM) hi guys, Any Persona SV owners here having rear seat noise coming from the left hand side. As far as I know the SV do not have foldable rear seats as I cant find the hooks and latch. Anyone can advise? wat kind of noise. metal? rubber? had this "rubber" noise, same position as urs, i thnk when ma car reached 30k km till now. but it occurs only when driving slow on offroad/jalan tanah especially during hot weather. sc couldnt find the cause so i jst ignore it as long as the sound isnt very noticeable.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 17 2014, 11:13 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #396
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(rush3508 @ Apr 17 2014, 03:21 AM) hi guys, Any Persona SV owners here having rear seat noise coming from the left hand side. As far as I know the SV do not have foldable rear seats as I cant find the hooks and latch. Anyone can advise? How does the sound sound like? Metal sound? Eee ek? I solved mine very recently after I found out how to remove the rear seats. I also settled the vibrating speaker board at the same time. Now no more metal sound when pressing against the rear seat, but not so sure if the board's vibrating sound is gone or not since it normally happens on a cold day.
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kokleong725	Apr 17 2014, 02:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #397
Getting Started Junior Member 116 posts Joined: Oct 2010 From: Earth	front car wheel got metal scrapping sound. just bring to mechanic for checking, brake pad almost finished and the rotor disc need to gosok before replace a new brake pad.. gosok price = rm90, brake pad price = rm160.. there's goes my money again.. water leaking into car cabin cant resolve.. now new problem come liao..
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TSFubar20	Apr 17 2014, 02:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #398
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Apr 17 2014, 02:03 PM) front car wheel got metal scrapping sound. just bring to mechanic for checking, brake pad almost finished and the rotor disc need to gosok before replace a new brake pad.. gosok price = rm90, brake pad price = rm160.. there's goes my money again.. water leaking into car cabin cant resolve.. now new problem come liao.. Apa brake pads wo until that price for front brakes only? U kena potong liao.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 17 2014, 02:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #399
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Apr 17 2014, 02:03 PM) front car wheel got metal scrapping sound. just bring to mechanic for checking, brake pad almost finished and the rotor disc need to gosok before replace a new brake pad.. gosok price = rm90, brake pad price = rm160.. there's goes my money again.. water leaking into car cabin cant resolve.. now new problem come liao.. Skimming price RM90? Better add on money to get a brand new set of front rotors. It's not worth skimming. Water leaking into car cabin? Which part?
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kokleong725	Apr 17 2014, 02:12 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #400
Getting Started Junior Member 116 posts Joined: Oct 2010 From: Earth	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 17 2014, 02:05 PM) Apa brake pads wo until that price for front brakes only? U kena potong liao. performance brake pad from italy.. cant remember the brand name..
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TSFubar20	Apr 17 2014, 02:14 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #401
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Apr 17 2014, 02:12 PM) performance brake pad from italy.. cant remember the brand name.. No name brand from Kepong is it? Waste of money bro. Where u buy it from?
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kokleong725	Apr 17 2014, 02:16 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #402
Getting Started Junior Member 116 posts Joined: Oct 2010 From: Earth	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 17 2014, 02:12 PM) Skimming price RM90? Better add on money to get a brand new set of front rotors. It's not worth skimming. Water leaking into car cabin? Which part? brand new set of front rotors, how nuch? last time is both rear door, then both front door and now left driver side door..
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kokleong725	Apr 17 2014, 02:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #403
Getting Started Junior Member 116 posts Joined: Oct 2010 From: Earth	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 17 2014, 02:14 PM) No name brand from Kepong is it? Waste of money bro. Where u buy it from? the mechanic intro to me.. i just ask for price only.. haven't change yet.
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TSFubar20	Apr 17 2014, 02:21 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #404
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Apr 17 2014, 02:17 PM) the mechanic intro to me.. i just ask for price only.. haven't change yet. Better get other brand like FBK or Trestor. Cheap cheap sub RM100 pads
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kokleong725	Apr 17 2014, 02:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #405
Getting Started Junior Member 116 posts Joined: Oct 2010 From: Earth	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 17 2014, 02:21 PM) Better get other brand like FBK or Trestor. Cheap cheap sub RM100 pads now i'm thinking whether wana give the mechanic to do or not and is there necessary need to skimming the disc rotor?
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 17 2014, 02:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #406
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Apr 17 2014, 02:16 PM) brand new set of front rotors, how nuch? last time is both rear door, then both front door and now left driver side door.. Bosch brake rotors are about RM150 ~ RM200 per front set. I see that the same seller (airline) also sells Bosch brake rotors for RM180 for the Persona. If muslayer is around, maybe you can contact him to get those Brembo rotors for RM140 only from his spare parts shop. I've done brake rotors skimming before for about RM70. Not really worth it as it solved the uneven surface of the rotors for a while only before it came back, plus it's thinner now. For the leaking issue, have you checked the weather sheet for your doors? They need to be stuck onto the door well to prevent water from coming in. If they are, maybe the source is the clip's hole, which you can solve by pushing and sticking some book cover plastic or something around the hole that the door panel's clips goes through. I did that quite long ago and till this date I haven't detect any water leakage into the car, although it my be because the amount is smaller now and that they're being absorbed completely by the soundproofing material on the door's panel.
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iskazulka	Apr 17 2014, 02:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #407
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	go kepong can ask sparepart from Ken Goh laio.
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TSFubar20	Apr 17 2014, 02:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #408
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Apr 17 2014, 02:23 PM) now i'm thinking whether wana give the mechanic to do or not and is there necessary need to skimming the disc rotor? Survey first and get ur options right. This mekanik just wanna cekik u only.
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jasonloh7906	Apr 17 2014, 02:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #409
New Member Newbie 2 posts Joined: Nov 2010	QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Apr 17 2014, 02:16 PM) brand new set of front rotors, how nuch? last time is both rear door, then both front door and now left driver side door.. if you getting original proton set outside is around Rm200 only. and its new and thick. not worth getting it skimmed. if your car does not come with all 4 disc brake and you have high demand on brake maybe this is the time to upgrade also. a good brand performance rotor can be around Rm450 i suppose. Also for brake pad, price, brand, and performance are sometime not connected well. Some high price good brand but no performance, some no brand but high price high performance, some seek a balance in between. Rm160 should be able to get you high temperature pad of at least 550'c.
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nickzkuso	Apr 17 2014, 02:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #410
New Member Newbie 10 posts Joined: Jul 2012	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 17 2014, 11:13 AM) How does the sound sound like? Metal sound? Eee ek? I solved mine very recently after I found out how to remove the rear seats. I also settled the vibrating speaker board at the same time. Now no more metal sound when pressing against the rear seat, but not so sure if the board's vibrating sound is gone or not since it normally happens on a cold day. its not the speaker board.. i have experience with the former TS, its shud be the third brake light casing hit the rear windscreen.. mine happened during cold day also...
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kokleong725	Apr 17 2014, 03:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #411
Getting Started Junior Member 116 posts Joined: Oct 2010 From: Earth	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 17 2014, 02:23 PM) Bosch brake rotors are about RM150 ~ RM200 per front set. I see that the same seller (airline) also sells Bosch brake rotors for RM180 for the Persona. If muslayer is around, maybe you can contact him to get those Brembo rotors for RM140 only from his spare parts shop. I've done brake rotors skimming before for about RM70. Not really worth it as it solved the uneven surface of the rotors for a while only before it came back, plus it's thinner now. For the leaking issue, have you checked the weather sheet for your doors? They need to be stuck onto the door well to prevent water from coming in. If they are, maybe the source is the clip's hole, which you can solve by pushing and sticking some book cover plastic or something around the hole that the door panel's clips goes through. I did that quite long ago and till this date I haven't detect any water leakage into the car, although it my be because the amount is smaller now and that they're being absorbed completely by the soundproofing material on the door's panel. normally how long the disc rotor can last long? if i just change the brake pad only, anything will happen? example, the new brake pad will fast finished? i use butyl windscreen sealant to seal it. i think i need to replace the weather sheet ady.. the original weather sheet should be got a lot oil and dust and make the butyl sealant not sticky anymore. QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 17 2014, 02:28 PM) Survey first and get ur options right. This mekanik just wanna cekik u only. was thinking.. my colleague ask me to just change the brake pad. for the disc rotor, my car age just almost 3 years and its not the time to skim the disc. except the disc rotor surface not good.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 17 2014, 03:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #412
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Apr 17 2014, 03:00 PM) normally how long the disc rotor can last long? if i just change the brake pad only, anything will happen? example, the new brake pad will fast finished? i use butyl windscreen sealant to seal it. i think i need to replace the weather sheet ady.. the original weather sheet should be got a lot oil and dust and make the butyl sealant not sticky anymore. was thinking.. my colleague ask me to just change the brake pad. for the disc rotor, my car age just almost 3 years and its not the time to skim the disc. except the disc rotor surface not good. Don't know how long can it last for. I remember some writing on the internet that it should be changed after about 3 changes of brake pads or something but I'm not sure. I guess the easiest way to tell when it's time for a replacement is to get the width of the rotors measured.
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Effy92	Apr 17 2014, 03:52 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #413
Getting Started Junior Member 294 posts Joined: Apr 2010 From: Malaysia	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 17 2014, 07:57 AM) any car can be taxi liao. saga sudah lama jadi taxi. apa lagi amoi mau? <revised> But why no FLX taxi? I only saw new BLM taxi with new plate.
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iskazulka	Apr 17 2014, 04:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #414
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Effy92 @ Apr 17 2014, 04:52 PM) But why no FLX taxi? I only saw new BLM taxi with new plate. ask the owner la y no buy..
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nickzkuso	Apr 17 2014, 04:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #415
New Member Newbie 10 posts Joined: Jul 2012	QUOTE(Effy92 @ Apr 17 2014, 03:52 PM) But why no FLX taxi? I only saw new BLM taxi with new plate. saga sv 1.3 tak cukup hebat mau vroom vroom..
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then17000	Apr 17 2014, 06:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #416
New Member Junior Member 29 posts Joined: Aug 2010	hi guys, anyone tried before drop in air filter for persona? is there any difference? performance wise?
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armadasaxon	Apr 17 2014, 06:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #417
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	Nonit waste.money on drop in la..change lcp all kau tim
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 17 2014, 06:48 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #418
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 17 2014, 06:25 PM) Nonit waste.money on drop in la..change myvi xt all kau tim
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dares	Apr 17 2014, 07:46 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #419
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Apr 17 2014, 03:00 PM) was thinking.. my colleague ask me to just change the brake pad. for the disc rotor, my car age just almost 3 years and its not the time to skim the disc. except the disc rotor surface not good. Get a second opinion from another shop. Last time I send Myvi to do alignment at tayar shop, the tayar man tell me need to replace brake pad, very thin liao, I said no because I can tell still got quite a lot of pad left. Later I service at SC, ask the technician to inspect, he also confirm still in good condition. Those ranjiao tayar man wanna con us oni. If your brake pedal vibrate hard during braking, then you'll have to skim or replace your discs. Otherwise no need. QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 17 2014, 06:48 PM)
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kokleong725	Apr 17 2014, 08:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #420
Getting Started Junior Member 116 posts Joined: Oct 2010 From: Earth	just got the brand name of the brake pads that the mechanic recommend, its a TRUSTING brake pad.. made in Italy.. BMW and other Europe car using the brake pad.. not sure how good is it..
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ckdenion	Apr 17 2014, 10:31 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #421
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Apr 17 2014, 08:28 PM) just got the brand name of the brake pads that the mechanic recommend, its a TRUSTING brake pad.. made in Italy.. BMW and other Europe car using the brake pad.. not sure how good is it.. He wan u to TRUST him only isit? Mayb u can find TRW brake pads...currently using for my front and rear...so far so good...slightly better braking than stock yet lesser brake dust
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 17 2014, 10:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #422
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 17 2014, 10:31 PM) He wan u to TRUST him only isit? Mayb u can find TRW brake pads...currently using for my front and rear...so far so good...slightly better braking than stock yet lesser brake dust Eh? You're still using your Percuma ka?
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ckdenion	Apr 17 2014, 10:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #423
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 17 2014, 10:42 PM) Eh? You're still using your Percuma ka? Driving waja currently...sometimes persona...wanna sell the persona...already bought a 2nd hand waja from my fren
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 17 2014, 11:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #424
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 17 2014, 10:59 PM) Driving waja currently...sometimes persona...wanna sell the persona...already bought a 2nd hand waja from my fren Don't want Percuma anymore?
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kokleong725	Apr 18 2014, 08:21 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #425
Getting Started Junior Member 116 posts Joined: Oct 2010 From: Earth	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 17 2014, 10:31 PM) He wan u to TRUST him only isit? Mayb u can find TRW brake pads...currently using for my front and rear...so far so good...slightly better braking than stock yet lesser brake dust maybe.. already replace a bendix metal king titanium for rm120 from spareparts shop..
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Beogatts	Apr 18 2014, 09:03 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #426
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(kokleong725 @ Apr 17 2014, 03:00 PM) normally how long the disc rotor can last long? if i just change the brake pad only, anything will happen? example, the new brake pad will fast finished? i use butyl windscreen sealant to seal it. i think i need to replace the weather sheet ady.. the original weather sheet should be got a lot oil and dust and make the butyl sealant not sticky anymore. was thinking.. my colleague ask me to just change the brake pad. for the disc rotor, my car age just almost 3 years and its not the time to skim the disc. except the disc rotor surface not good. my front discs were changed after 92k mileage.. it was already like ][ . n i used rapidstop pads only lasted for abt 50k. in my opinion, it depends on how hard n frequent u brake daily.. mine is b-line so the force for front brake will eat up the discs. plus, some performance pads (hard ones) might also eaten up ur discs. other than feeling the brake by pressing the brake pedal, theres also another way to detect, when i do balancing, thts when i get to look at my discs n pads. i also dirt ma hands by touch n feel the discs n pads. thts how i no when they need to b replaced.
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ngeo88	Apr 18 2014, 09:35 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #427
New Member Junior Member 48 posts Joined: Nov 2009	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 17 2014, 10:59 PM) Driving waja currently...sometimes persona...wanna sell the persona...already bought a 2nd hand waja from my fren why dun want the persona ? what happen to the PE, used waja better ?
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ngeo88	Apr 18 2014, 09:37 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #428
New Member Junior Member 48 posts Joined: Nov 2009	QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 16 2014, 04:16 PM) Inside your housing estate only. Outside 160km/h. your car finish repair ? feel any different after repair ?
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nickzkuso	Apr 18 2014, 09:39 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #429
New Member Newbie 10 posts Joined: Jul 2012	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 17 2014, 10:59 PM) Driving waja currently...sometimes persona...wanna sell the persona...already bought a 2nd hand waja from my fren no veeoss meh?
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TSFubar20	Apr 18 2014, 12:49 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #430
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 17 2014, 10:59 PM) Driving waja currently...sometimes persona...wanna sell the persona...already bought a 2nd hand waja from my fren WHY U NO GO BAI VIOSSSSS??????
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dares	Apr 18 2014, 12:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #431
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 17 2014, 10:59 PM) Driving waja currently...sometimes persona...wanna sell the persona...already bought a 2nd hand waja from my fren Waja
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TSFubar20	Apr 18 2014, 12:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #432
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(dares @ Apr 18 2014, 12:55 PM) Waja Today got TT mou?
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ckdenion	Apr 18 2014, 01:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #433
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 17 2014, 11:44 PM) Don't want Percuma anymore? QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Apr 18 2014, 09:35 AM) why dun want the persona ? what happen to the PE, used waja better ? bcz waja can achieve 12-13km/L easily with 80% city drive condition...
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ckdenion	Apr 18 2014, 01:54 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #434
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Apr 18 2014, 09:39 AM) no veeoss meh? QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 18 2014, 12:49 PM) WHY U NO GO BAI VIOSSSSS?????? not enuf budget to buy vios....buy a 2nd hand car first...
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nickzkuso	Apr 18 2014, 02:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #435
New Member Newbie 10 posts Joined: Jul 2012	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 18 2014, 12:59 PM) Today got TT mou? got..come buttsack dares.. QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 18 2014, 01:54 PM) not enuf budget to buy vios....buy a 2nd hand car first... but hvnt sell your persona? can sell both car then got budget liao
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V12Kompressor	Apr 18 2014, 02:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #436
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 18 2014, 01:54 PM) bcz waja can achieve 12-13km/L easily with 80% city drive condition... lai cucuk FS. I like to install in Waja one... very easy.
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ckdenion	Apr 18 2014, 02:50 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #437
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(nickzkuso @ Apr 18 2014, 02:37 PM) but hvnt sell your persona? can sell both car then got budget liao finding buyer...sell both car still also not enuf budget... QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 18 2014, 02:47 PM) lai cucuk FS. I like to install in Waja one... very easy. dun wan spend anymore money to mod this wajunk...stock good enuf...jz for my daily working route.
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V12Kompressor	Apr 18 2014, 02:55 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #438
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 18 2014, 02:50 PM) finding buyer...sell both car still also not enuf budget... dun wan spend anymore money to mod this wajunk...stock good enuf...jz for my daily working route. so u can be waja TS liao...
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ckdenion	Apr 18 2014, 02:56 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #439
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 18 2014, 02:55 PM) so u can be waja TS liao... waja stalker ok la...not TS This post has been edited by ckdenion: Apr 18 2014, 02:56 PM
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V12Kompressor	Apr 18 2014, 02:57 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #440
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 18 2014, 02:56 PM) waja stalker ok la...not TS >_> but for Waja, 13km/L is seriously impressive. keep andd rive till wheels drop off bah.
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TSFubar20	Apr 18 2014, 02:58 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #441
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 18 2014, 02:55 PM) so u can be waja TS liao... Hantu TS
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ckdenion	Apr 18 2014, 03:00 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #442
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 18 2014, 02:57 PM) but for Waja, 13km/L is seriously impressive. keep andd rive till wheels drop off bah. yes...jz got the car for 2 weeks+ and tried out 2 tanks and drive the same route. persona the most also 280km for 25L petrol...but this waja with 200k km mileage can drive 310-320km for 25L petrol...condition is still good...jz absorber condition not that good...
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V12Kompressor	Apr 18 2014, 03:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #443
No carrots here Senior Member 2,141 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Muddy Banks	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 18 2014, 03:00 PM) yes...jz got the car for 2 weeks+ and tried out 2 tanks and drive the same route. persona the most also 280km for 25L petrol...but this waja with 200k km mileage can drive 310-320km for 25L petrol...condition is still good...jz absorber condition not that good... adjustable...
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akh2920	Apr 18 2014, 03:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #444
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	Hi TS, new owner reporting in! Persona SV AT silver
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TSFubar20	Apr 18 2014, 03:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #445
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 18 2014, 03:22 PM) Hi TS, new owner reporting in! Persona SV AT silver Added
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Beogatts	Apr 18 2014, 04:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #446
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 18 2014, 03:22 PM) Hi TS, new owner reporting in! Persona SV AT silver welcome, ur first task: spin the wheel
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vampire_empirez	Apr 18 2014, 04:06 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #447
Getting Started Junior Member 131 posts Joined: Oct 2011	i curious does persona sv rear passanger window cannot fully shut down?
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akh2920	Apr 18 2014, 04:13 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #448
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 18 2014, 03:30 PM) Added Thanks!! QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 18 2014, 04:03 PM) welcome, ur first task: spin the wheel Vroom vroom!!! (not that kind of vroom lol) But actually my first task was checking the power window, passenger door, aircon, etc.... i got make a long checklist based on the reviews found on the net u know la This post has been edited by akh2920: Apr 18 2014, 04:15 PM
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TSFubar20	Apr 18 2014, 04:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #449
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(vampire_empirez @ Apr 18 2014, 04:06 PM) i curious does persona sv rear passanger window cannot fully shut down? All Persona also like that one. Design mia pasal.
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dares	Apr 18 2014, 04:33 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #450
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 18 2014, 03:00 PM) yes...jz got the car for 2 weeks+ and tried out 2 tanks and drive the same route. persona the most also 280km for 25L petrol...but this waja with 200k km mileage can drive 310-320km for 25L petrol...condition is still good...jz absorber condition not that good... 4G18? Waja stock absorber even cheaper than Saga's
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Beogatts	Apr 18 2014, 04:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #451
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(akh2920 @ Apr 18 2014, 04:13 PM) Thanks!! Vroom vroom!!! (not that kind of vroom lol) But actually my first task was checking the power window, passenger door, aircon, etc.... i got make a long checklist based on the reviews found on the net u know la well u gotta spin the wheel while power window up&down, opening&closing all doors, volume up the music player, maximum the a/c level, etc. so u need 4 passengers in ur car & test em all while spinning la.. QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 18 2014, 04:22 PM) All Persona also like that one. Design mia pasal. yeah its part of aerodynamic. can go fast with ur powerwindow down. This post has been edited by Beogatts: Apr 18 2014, 04:45 PM
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akh2920	Apr 18 2014, 07:17 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #452
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	QUOTE(vampire_empirez @ Apr 18 2014, 04:06 PM) i curious does persona sv rear passanger window cannot fully shut down? SA told me it is for safety lol
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ckdenion	Apr 18 2014, 09:05 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #453
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Apr 18 2014, 03:03 PM) adjustable... NO QUOTE(vampire_empirez @ Apr 18 2014, 04:06 PM) i curious does persona sv rear passanger window cannot fully shut down? u mean cannot fully wind down? yes memang like that... QUOTE(dares @ Apr 18 2014, 04:33 PM) 4G18? Waja stock absorber even cheaper than Saga's ok... go save money for stock absorber
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armadasaxon	Apr 18 2014, 10:27 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #454
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 18 2014, 09:05 PM) NO u mean cannot fully wind down? yes memang like that... ok... go save money for stock absorber Wahh..yur waja reli geng..I pump rm 115 only can go maxxx 400km..1lite around 7km lidat..u drive manual ka?...waja after 10 year many part start to rot..power window always spoil..door handle break..breaking system not so good oso..mounting cause vibration..but all parts r cheap.
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armadasaxon	Apr 18 2014, 10:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #455
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	Planning to sell my persona oso..anyone wanna buy?1.6a hline 2010 still look new..hehe.
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ckdenion	Apr 18 2014, 10:41 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #456
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 18 2014, 10:27 PM) Wahh..yur waja reli geng..I pump rm 115 only can go maxxx 400km..1lite around 7km lidat..u drive manual ka?...waja after 10 year many part start to rot..power window always spoil..door handle break..breaking system not so good oso..mounting cause vibration..but all parts r cheap. D reason i buy over this waja is bcz top overhaul is done and some new internal engine parts are replaced. And it is auto transmission... QUOTE(armadasaxon @ Apr 18 2014, 10:29 PM) Planning to sell my persona oso..anyone wanna buy?1.6a hline 2010 still look new..hehe.
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akh2920	Apr 18 2014, 10:44 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #457
Casual Junior Member 440 posts Joined: Sep 2013	Dear all sifussss~ new persona brake got "krok krok" sound when release is what problem ya? Is it common? Feels like not lubricated enough...
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normal_user	Apr 19 2014, 12:46 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #458
Getting Started Junior Member 54 posts Joined: Oct 2005 From: Shah Alam	Hi I need advice from sifus here. My 2009 M-line Persona already clocked 80K km plus, and the suspension has lost its bite. I remembered how if felt so comfy when I drove it home the first time. I just bought Almera for wife, used it quite often and when return driving the Persona, my car felt lousy in terms of comfort & refinement (but still great on handling & steering feedback). I realized my Persona is ageing fast, with all type of sounds coming from the dashboard and left door assembly when driving over uneven surface or bumps. To compare, my friends' City, Altis and Livina mileage all had reached 100K but never encountered such problem nor changed their absorbers. To summarize, here are the sounds: Kraaaaak : when alight & moving out from car. Kiook: suspension noise when driving over bumps slow at 10kmh krik krik krik: something inside dashboard rattling tak tuk tak tuk: something inside the door assembly rattling See, I don't need to turn on the radio to play music in my Persona. As much as I love my car for its brilliant handling and solid drive, the enjoyment was somewhat hampered by these annoying noises. So, my questions are: 1. Does changing Proton original shock absorber can eliminate this? Can it make the ride comfort feel 'quite like new'? 2. Where is the best place to fix the interior (dashboard and door) assembly fit & finish to eradicate the noise? Can Proton SC do the job? Thank you This post has been edited by normal_user: Apr 19 2014, 12:56 AM
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 19 2014, 02:29 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #459
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(normal_user @ Apr 19 2014, 12:46 AM) Hi I need advice from sifus here. My 2009 M-line Persona already clocked 80K km plus, and the suspension has lost its bite. I remembered how if felt so comfy when I drove it home the first time. I just bought Almera for wife, used it quite often and when return driving the Persona, my car felt lousy in terms of comfort & refinement (but still great on handling & steering feedback). I realized my Persona is ageing fast, with all type of sounds coming from the dashboard and left door assembly when driving over uneven surface or bumps. To compare, my friends' City, Altis and Livina mileage all had reached 100K but never encountered such problem nor changed their absorbers. To summarize, here are the sounds: Kraaaaak : when alight & moving out from car. Kiook: suspension noise when driving over bumps slow at 10kmh krik krik krik: something inside dashboard rattling tak tuk tak tuk: something inside the door assembly rattling See, I don't need to turn on the radio to play music in my Persona. As much as I love my car for its brilliant handling and solid drive, the enjoyment was somewhat hampered by these annoying noises. So, my questions are: 1. Does changing Proton original shock absorber can eliminate this? Can it make the ride comfort feel 'quite like new'? 2. Where is the best place to fix the interior (dashboard and door) assembly fit & finish to eradicate the noise? Can Proton SC do the job? Thank you 1. Changing the absorbers will probably make the ride better especially if they're already very worn out. 2. Any workshop / accessory shop can do the job, but the job quality may not be satisfactory. If you're willing to pay a Proton SC to do the job, why not? The price may or will probably be on the higher side though, and there's no guarantee that they'll be better than the workshops / accessory shops around, but since it's an official / authorised SC there should be less risk of getting a shoddy job. Just to add on, aside from absorbers, you may want to consider inspecting all the bushings of the car to see which is worn out and replace accordingly. This may reduce noise and/or improve your car's handling as well. Also consider replacing the rubber seals for the doors, and maybe if you have extra cash, send the car for soundproofing for the doors / floor pan ke whatever part which has the greatest source of noise. Or just buy the sports car myvi / super car vios and settle, really. Edit: About the "krak" sound, it may be related to your drum brakes. When was the last time you replaced the shoes? What about the brake fluid condition/level? I used to have a lot of sounds coming from the rear brakes when entering / alighting from the car, which I don't really know how it disappeared later on. Maybe it's cause I topped up the brake fluid, replaced it, or maybe it just decided to cabut. This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Apr 19 2014, 02:42 AM
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dares	Apr 19 2014, 02:38 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #460
Enthusiast Junior Member 834 posts Joined: Jul 2011	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 18 2014, 10:41 PM) D reason i buy over this waja is bcz top overhaul is done and some new internal engine parts are replaced. And it is auto transmission... What's the mileage? have replace fuel pump before? becareful as Wajunk is femes for fuel pump failure....either the fuel pump or the fuel pump relay.
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ngeo88	Apr 19 2014, 09:20 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #461
New Member Junior Member 48 posts Joined: Nov 2009	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 18 2014, 01:54 PM) bcz waja can achieve 12-13km/L easily with 80% city drive condition... Got people willing sell off new car and buy used car....haiz this make us driving persona feel so sad like our car so suck that worse than a used old car .... Sad
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lilac	Apr 19 2014, 12:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #462
Casual Junior Member 376 posts Joined: Aug 2006	Hey guys, my car is going to reach it's 40K milage soon and i notice that the tires are pretty used up. I was wondering - How much does it cost to change my tires? and any recommended places in PJ to change em?
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 19 2014, 12:45 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #463
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(lilac @ Apr 19 2014, 12:22 PM) Hey guys, my car is going to reach it's 40K milage soon and i notice that the tires are pretty used up. I was wondering - How much does it cost to change my tires? and any recommended places in PJ to change em? A set of mid range tyres will probably cost you from RM900 and above, but there ones that are below RM200 per piece. I don't really know what tyre shops are recommended around PJ, and don't have any to recommend either. But I would suggest that you avoid the Continental tyre shop at Damansara Jaya. I just ask for the manufacturing date of the tyres I was buying and the manager is already unhappy. He thought that I don't understand chinese / cantonese so he told his colleague that the customer is duo si. If you are able to drive all the way to Jalan Ipoh, why don't you pay a visit to Kean Lee Hin nestum? I believe that his service will be very satisfactory judging from the response of the forum members. This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Apr 19 2014, 12:46 PM
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ckdenion	Apr 19 2014, 01:34 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #464
Financial Practitioner Senior Member 2,866 posts Joined: Sep 2008 From: Wangsa Maju, KL	QUOTE(dares @ Apr 19 2014, 02:38 AM) What's the mileage? have replace fuel pump before? becareful as Wajunk is femes for fuel pump failure....either the fuel pump or the fuel pump relay. 195000km+- ok will take note of the fuel pump...isit bcz of fuel pump goin to rosak then fc very good? QUOTE(ngeo88 @ Apr 19 2014, 09:20 AM) Got people willing sell off new car and buy used car....haiz this make us driving persona feel so sad like our car so suck that worse than a used old car .... Sad After i drove my fren waja and with a mileage touching 200k km and with that beter fc than persona...(less problematic than my persona too) might as well jz cincai get a used car with lesser problems... Ur guys persona is good...only mine is super lemon unit. So u guys can stick to persona.
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armadasaxon	Apr 19 2014, 02:04 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #465
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	Yes I have 2 waja..10 years both fuel pump oso gotta change.
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szaku89	Apr 19 2014, 04:11 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #466
Amazing Z Senior Member 1,351 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: Planet Earth	Darn Proton, my friend bought Persona SV a month ago, last week aircond leaking have to send back service centre. Friend's uncle bought also, the steering become harder and harder, send back to SC found out steering oil leak.
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voscar	Apr 19 2014, 07:29 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #467
Regular Senior Member 1,525 posts Joined: Dec 2005	QUOTE(szaku89 @ Apr 19 2014, 04:11 PM) Darn Proton, my friend bought Persona SV a month ago, last week aircond leaking have to send back service centre. Friend's uncle bought also, the steering become harder and harder, send back to SC found out steering oil leak. after seeing so many door issue, + now the problem yr friends having, seems more like SV = Sacrificed Value?
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armadasaxon	Apr 20 2014, 12:23 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #468
Casual Junior Member 488 posts Joined: May 2009 From: damansara	Sv is sohai vehicle
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szaku89	Apr 20 2014, 03:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #469
Amazing Z Senior Member 1,351 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: Planet Earth	But then put aside quality control issues, its indeed a Super Value car. You cant find such a comfortable car at such a price anywhere else.
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szaku89	Apr 20 2014, 03:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #470
Amazing Z Senior Member 1,351 posts Joined: Jul 2008 From: Planet Earth	My SV 2months + , 6k mileage, so far so good, touch wood. Previously fixed small issue such as back door prob.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 20 2014, 04:25 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #471
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	And to think that a mature model would be problem free . There's a lot of fixing to be done which includes Proton's employees.
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normal_user	Apr 20 2014, 06:51 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #472
Getting Started Junior Member 54 posts Joined: Oct 2005 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(normal_user @ Apr 19 2014, 12:46 AM) Hi I need advice from sifus here. My 2009 M-line Persona already clocked 80K km plus, and the suspension has lost its bite. I remembered how if felt so comfy when I drove it home the first time. I just bought Almera for wife, used it quite often and when return driving the Persona, my car felt lousy in terms of comfort & refinement (but still great on handling & steering feedback). I realized my Persona is ageing fast, with all type of sounds coming from the dashboard and left door assembly when driving over uneven surface or bumps. To compare, my friends' City, Altis and Livina mileage all had reached 100K but never encountered such problem nor changed their absorbers. To summarize, here are the sounds: Kraaaaak : when alight & moving out from car. Kiook: suspension noise when driving over bumps slow at 10kmh krik krik krik: something inside dashboard rattling tak tuk tak tuk: something inside the door assembly rattling See, I don't need to turn on the radio to play music in my Persona. As much as I love my car for its brilliant handling and solid drive, the enjoyment was somewhat hampered by these annoying noises. So, my questions are: 1. Does changing Proton original shock absorber can eliminate this? Can it make the ride comfort feel 'quite like new'? 2. Where is the best place to fix the interior (dashboard and door) assembly fit & finish to eradicate the noise? Can Proton SC do the job? Thank you QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 19 2014, 02:29 AM) 1. Changing the absorbers will probably make the ride better especially if they're already very worn out. 2. Any workshop / accessory shop can do the job, but the job quality may not be satisfactory. If you're willing to pay a Proton SC to do the job, why not? The price may or will probably be on the higher side though, and there's no guarantee that they'll be better than the workshops / accessory shops around, but since it's an official / authorised SC there should be less risk of getting a shoddy job. Just to add on, aside from absorbers, you may want to consider inspecting all the bushings of the car to see which is worn out and replace accordingly. This may reduce noise and/or improve your car's handling as well. Also consider replacing the rubber seals for the doors, and maybe if you have extra cash, send the car for soundproofing for the doors / floor pan ke whatever part which has the greatest source of noise. Or just buy the sports car myvi / super car vios and settle, really. Edit: About the "krak" sound, it may be related to your drum brakes. When was the last time you replaced the shoes? What about the brake fluid condition/level? I used to have a lot of sounds coming from the rear brakes when entering / alighting from the car, which I don't really know how it disappeared later on. Maybe it's cause I topped up the brake fluid, replaced it, or maybe it just decided to cabut. Yeah I haven't checked the rear drums, although I've skimmed front dics & changed brakes twice. Brake fluid is sufficient. The noise doesn't bother me much as it happen during entering/alighting from the car. Its the dashboard sound that is irritating. Well, at least my Persona's comfort is better than Myvi with same mileage. Myvi with that mileage usually in dire need of absorber change (based on driving 4 different old myvis). Thanks for the advice
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 20 2014, 07:03 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #473
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(normal_user @ Apr 20 2014, 06:51 PM) Yeah I haven't checked the rear drums, although I've skimmed front dics & changed brakes twice. Brake fluid is sufficient. The noise doesn't bother me much as it happen during entering/alighting from the car. Its the dashboard sound that is irritating. Well, at least my Persona's comfort is better than Myvi with same mileage. Myvi with that mileage usually in dire need of absorber change (based on driving 4 different old myvis). Thanks for the advice How high do you usually pull the handbrake lever to? I normally pull mine to the max if it's on a slope, or about half of max or less if it's on relatively flat ground. I also let my car roll front / backwards with the handbrake on after parking before engaging the parking brake to prevent the parking brakes from being the one that holds the car still. That was a long time ago though, and I no longer put the car into P. I just put it in N, pull the handbrake, let it move until it stops and then alight from the car.
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kennywee92	Apr 20 2014, 07:59 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #474
New Member Junior Member 34 posts Joined: Aug 2011	Hello guys. Hope you guys don't mind. I'm helping to spread words for Nanolub. We will be having an event. Whoever buy a bottle of Nanolub will get free dyno run. Before and after pouring in Nanolub. Details as follow : Date : 4th of May 2014 (might extend one more day because of overwhelm demand) Venue : RS Dyno Puchong Price : Rm80 for one bottle of Nanolub RCX WS2 Interested parties may PM me to register. Any enquiries please do not hesitate to ask me. Thank you
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 20 2014, 08:09 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #475
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(kennywee92 @ Apr 20 2014, 07:59 PM) Hello guys. Hope you guys don't mind. I'm helping to spread words for Nanolub. We will be having an event. Whoever buy a bottle of Nanolub will get free dyno run. Before and after pouring in Nanolub. Details as follow : Date : 4th of May 2014 (might extend one more day because of overwhelm demand) Venue : RS Dyno Puchong Price : Rm80 for one bottle of Nanolub RCX WS2 Interested parties may PM me to register. Any enquiries please do not hesitate to ask me. Thank you Wah. So cheap ka? I'm interested in the bottle but not so on the dyno part. Besi buruk dyno apa This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Apr 20 2014, 08:09 PM
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kennywee92	Apr 20 2014, 08:30 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #476
New Member Junior Member 34 posts Joined: Aug 2011	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 20 2014, 08:09 PM) Wah. So cheap ka? I'm interested in the bottle but not so on the dyno part. Besi buruk dyno apa Yeah. Charity event Bottle can get anytime from me
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 20 2014, 08:47 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #477
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(kennywee92 @ Apr 20 2014, 08:30 PM) Yeah. Charity event Bottle can get anytime from me Yours and the "extreme" version is different right?
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normal_user	Apr 20 2014, 09:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #478
Getting Started Junior Member 54 posts Joined: Oct 2005 From: Shah Alam	QUOTE(szaku89 @ Apr 20 2014, 03:40 PM) But then put aside quality control issues, its indeed a Super Value car. You cant find such a comfortable car at such a price anywhere else. Exactly. The Persona has the cheapest ownership cost, and yet is more fun to drive, and even more comfortable than the RM115K Honda Civic. The Japanese B-segments (City, Vios, Almera) has no match for Persona in terms of continental solid ride & handling balance. I recently owned Almera, and despite its smoothness, it cannot match Persona's pure driving fun & joy. Againts the C-segment below RM120K, only its sophisticated sibling, the Preve can beat its 'fun to drive' factor (by a small margin). Meanwhile, despite the Altis and Sylphy has better comfort, their handling & steering feel is no-where to match the Persona. It is proven reliable despite there are quite a number of lemons out there. My father in-law has one that clocked nearly 200K km, and yet it rides comfortable with no major problems and never broke down whether on garage or middle of the road. The Persona's archilles heel remain its mediocre interior fit and finish quality, less than remarkable engine refinement and squeaky sounds inside the cabin. QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 20 2014, 07:03 PM) How high do you usually pull the handbrake lever to? I normally pull mine to the max if it's on a slope, or about half of max or less if it's on relatively flat ground. I also let my car roll front / backwards with the handbrake on after parking before engaging the parking brake to prevent the parking brakes from being the one that holds the car still. That was a long time ago though, and I no longer put the car into P. I just put it in N, pull the handbrake, let it move until it stops and then alight from the car. I usually set to P, when the car really stops and not moving anymore. After that I pull the handbrake at 2/3 capacity (2 clicks I think). Only full when on a slope.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 20 2014, 09:32 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #479
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(normal_user @ Apr 20 2014, 09:24 PM) Exactly. The Persona has the cheapest ownership cost, and yet is more fun to drive, and even more comfortable than the RM115K Honda Civic. The Japanese B-segments (City, Vios, Almera) has no match for Persona in terms of continental solid ride & handling balance. I recently owned Almera, and despite its smoothness, it cannot match Persona's pure driving fun & joy. Againts the C-segment below RM120K, only its sophisticated sibling, the Preve can beat its 'fun to drive' factor (by a small margin). Meanwhile, despite the Altis and Sylphy has better comfort, their handling & steering feel is no-where to match the Persona. It is proven reliable despite there are quite a number of lemons out there. My father in-law has one that clocked nearly 200K km, and yet it rides comfortable with no major problems and never broke down whether on garage or middle of the road. The Persona's archilles heel remain its mediocre interior fit and finish quality, less than remarkable engine refinement and squeaky sounds inside the cabin. I usually set to P, when the car really stops and not moving anymore. After that I pull the handbrake at 2/3 capacity (2 clicks I think). Only full when on a slope. Why don't you try pulling the handbrake first then shift to P when the car has stopped moving with only the handbrake on? I believe that may very well be the cause of the krak ehh em sound when you get in or out of the car. My abah punya D segment also got this sort of sound (emmm sound) from the rear brakes when alighting / entering the car with that sort of parking technique. I agree that the car is very nice to drive. How it compares to the cars you have mentioned, I don't know except for the Almera. Quiet? Yes. Smooth? Hmmm I guess. Steering feel? Very inaccurate, light and the steering correction to center is so strong it's unpleasant. Edit: What about armadasaxon's opinion? I hear that the new Honda City stops and goes like the wind and the new Altis is amazing. This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Apr 20 2014, 09:52 PM
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kennywee92	Apr 20 2014, 10:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #480
New Member Junior Member 34 posts Joined: Aug 2011	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 20 2014, 08:47 PM) Yours and the "extreme" version is different right? No idea if they added anything else into it. Mine is repackaged in Malaysia for Malaysia market. Theirs is from Singapore.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 20 2014, 10:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #481
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(kennywee92 @ Apr 20 2014, 10:28 PM) No idea if they added anything else into it. Mine is repackaged in Malaysia for Malaysia market. Theirs is from Singapore. PM best price? Might budget for this in the future unless I decide to buy some other things like new air-cond vents. I was quoted RM80 for the middle vents, and RM80 each for the left and right vents. . Still haven't gotten around to asking for locally made vents price.
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kennywee92	Apr 20 2014, 11:28 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #482
New Member Junior Member 34 posts Joined: Aug 2011	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 20 2014, 10:36 PM) PM best price? Might budget for this in the future unless I decide to buy some other things like new air-cond vents. I was quoted RM80 for the middle vents, and RM80 each for the left and right vents. . Still haven't gotten around to asking for locally made vents price. PM me when your budget comes. What happen to your air cond vents? That price is average as my friend got quotes rm80 for his Sara's too but crazy provided it's just plastic vents. Lol
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SUSSuper Saiya	Apr 21 2014, 12:08 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #483
Getting Started Junior Member 280 posts Joined: Feb 2012	QUOTE(ckdenion @ Apr 16 2014, 06:18 PM) hi guys...my Works Engineering LCP still available for sell.any members here interested? new persona SV drivers? QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 18 2014, 02:58 PM) Hantu TS previous TS is back after abandon V50
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Beogatts	Apr 21 2014, 10:07 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #484
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(normal_user @ Apr 20 2014, 09:24 PM) Exactly. The Persona has the cheapest ownership cost, and yet is more fun to drive, and even more comfortable than the RM115K Honda Civic. The Japanese B-segments (City, Vios, Almera) has no match for Persona in terms of continental solid ride & handling balance. I recently owned Almera, and despite its smoothness, it cannot match Persona's pure driving fun & joy. Againts the C-segment below RM120K, only its sophisticated sibling, the Preve can beat its 'fun to drive' factor (by a small margin). Meanwhile, despite the Altis and Sylphy has better comfort, their handling & steering feel is no-where to match the Persona. It is proven reliable despite there are quite a number of lemons out there. My father in-law has one that clocked nearly 200K km, and yet it rides comfortable with no major problems and never broke down whether on garage or middle of the road. The Persona's archilles heel remain its mediocre interior fit and finish quality, less than remarkable engine refinement and squeaky sounds inside the cabin. I usually set to P, when the car really stops and not moving anymore. After that I pull the handbrake at 2/3 capacity (2 clicks I think). Only full when on a slope. agree its somehow proven by trying to let someone (who owns same segment of car) to drive ur car. im sure 7 outta 10 pple feel amazed. make this thread alive
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TSFubar20	Apr 21 2014, 10:11 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #485
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 21 2014, 10:07 AM) agree its somehow proven by trying to let someone (who owns same segment of car) to drive ur car. im sure 7 outta 10 pple feel amazed. **make this thread alive ** SV owners no contribute, where will the thread be alive one.
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TDUEnthusiast	Apr 21 2014, 10:54 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #486
Critical thinking Elite 10,015 posts Joined: Mar 2009 From: the future	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 21 2014, 10:11 AM) SV owners no contribute, where will the thread be alive one. All waiting to hear the licking butt story.
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TSFubar20	Apr 21 2014, 11:26 AM Show posts by this member only \| Post #487
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 21 2014, 10:54 AM) All waiting to hear the licking butt story. You lick butt mia ka?
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Beogatts	Apr 21 2014, 12:19 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #488
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 21 2014, 10:11 AM) SV owners no contribute, where will the thread be alive one. how mch contribution we need from SVier.
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iskazulka	Apr 21 2014, 12:24 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #489
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 21 2014, 01:19 PM) how mch contribution we need from SVier. for starter, SV owner become TS inb4 thread currently now depends on imports.
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iskazulka	Apr 21 2014, 12:26 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #490
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(TDUEnthusiast @ Apr 21 2014, 11:54 AM) All waiting to hear the licking butt story. nope. only u.
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TSFubar20	Apr 21 2014, 12:37 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #491
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 21 2014, 12:24 PM) for starter, SV owner become TS inb4 thread currently now depends on imports. Sad but true.
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iskazulka	Apr 21 2014, 12:40 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #492
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(Fubar20 @ Apr 21 2014, 01:37 PM) Sad but true. too many banggalah to meet demands.
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TSFubar20	Apr 21 2014, 12:42 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #493
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 21 2014, 12:40 PM) too many banggalah to meet demands. Manada? Banggalah hanya satu iaitu you.
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alvin_ng	Apr 21 2014, 02:15 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #494
New Member Junior Member 15 posts Joined: Aug 2008	SV user here... Nothing much to say. Very good car except minor hiccups. Handling is top-notch, more so with the ARB in front. My family owns another Persona but the SV handles slightly better than the other Persona thanks to the addition of ARB. Greatest bang for your bucks...
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Beogatts	Apr 21 2014, 02:22 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #495
New Member Junior Member 18 posts Joined: Jan 2009 From: City Of Delusion	TS Selected.
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iskazulka	Apr 21 2014, 02:23 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #496
Getting Started Junior Member 62 posts Joined: May 2012	QUOTE(alvin_ng @ Apr 21 2014, 03:15 PM) SV user here... Nothing much to say . Very good car except minor hiccups. Handling is top-notch, more so with the ARB in front. My family owns another Persona but the SV handles slightly better than the other Persona thanks to the addition of ARB. Greatest bang for your bucks... TS.. looks like ur contract be continued quite a while. inb4 imports to stay.
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TSFubar20	Apr 21 2014, 02:36 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #497
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(Beogatts @ Apr 21 2014, 02:22 PM) TS Selected. We will never see him again. QUOTE(iskazulka @ Apr 21 2014, 02:23 PM) TS.. looks like ur contract be continued quite a while. inb4 imports to stay. Apa kontrak? Lu balik ke Banggalah, funker.
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alvin_ng	Apr 21 2014, 02:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #498
New Member Junior Member 15 posts Joined: Aug 2008	Better let the experienced become TS... SV owners all new comers. Hahah
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s7ran9er	Apr 21 2014, 02:38 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #499
ლ(;◉;益;◉;ლ) Senior Member 4,210 posts Joined: Jan 2003	Yo! My car is feeling sour after so many SV drivers out there.
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TSFubar20	Apr 21 2014, 02:39 PM Show posts by this member only \| Post #500
Regular Senior Member 1,187 posts Joined: Apr 2011 From: Nowhere	QUOTE(alvin_ng @ Apr 21 2014, 02:38 PM) Better let the experienced become TS... SV owners all new comers. Hahah Experienced one already become farmers liao. New person new pork mah.
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