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voncrane
post Jul 28 2016, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 28 2016, 04:45 PM)
hey guys, not to hijack the thread, but just wanna tumpang and ask a quick question related to androids...

i know android boxes, i have android tv and use an android phone.

using an ipadmini but planning to buy a samsung galaxy tab s2 9.7.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s2_9_7-7438.php

anyone using this device?

will this tablet do (almost) everything a box does?

how similar is an android tablet to an android box?

the ui/navigation more similar to android phone than android box, i suppose?

what will it NOT do compared to a typical android box?

any samsung special bonus feature or drawback to be aware of?

just wanna get a few quick comments... thanks.
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An Android box is basically an android tablet with a full HDMI out, Ethernet in, USB ports, etc.. With Samsung devices, you get TouchWiz UI, rather than stock or the box manufacturer's home screen/page and UI. Oh yeah, with a tablet you don't have to deal with certain apps that are designed not to run properly on boxes.. Example of some are the ones which don't want subscribers viewing their content on the large screen.

QUOTE(plumberly @ Jul 28 2016, 04:50 PM)
I would like to do a survey here after trying a new TV box recently. Noted a significant difference in the speeds, startup, shutdown etc.

Seeing a faster response is indeed comforting. Ha. So would like to compile some data and share later. This may also determine which TV box I get later! Ha.

Appreciate your inputs as below:

TV box model:

Cold startup time (from power on to seeing the internet connection and time on the screen):
AA=

Shutdown time (from pressing shutdown button on remote to seeing the red light on the TV box):
BB=

KODI aspects

Startup time (from clicking on the Kodi icon to seeing the full root menu on the screen (this may be skin dependant)):
CC=
Shutdown time (from clicking on the QUIT/STOP button on the screen to getting out of Kodi):
DD=

Many thanks!

P/S Just state the following in your reply
TV box model =
AA=
BB=
CC=
DD=
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OR... You type in the box's model or brand in the search bar below and see real world usage reviews & thoughts already typed. No? OR You head over to YouTube, search for an unboxing review or comparison video of the model(s). Why?

I believe this thread is for sharing info, having certain needs met and not ranking who's box is the fastest, etc.. Here's an example, I have 3 Kodi variants installed on my box; one is left as stock (Minix_few MB), the other I use to test builds/play around (Jarvis_sometimes over 2GB), while the last one is considered as a stable installation, having about 10 core addons (Official Jarvis_under 1GB). Pray tell, which do you think would launch or quit the fastest? Which has the higher potential to crash or be buggy? Does that then speak for the box? So I believe even after answering the above questions (you've painstakingly thought of... much effort notworthy.gif ) per box, it still doesn't really answer what the typical newbie is interested in.. Seasoned Android box users pretty much know what they want and how to go about getting it..

Note: The above is just my opinion, others can feel free to take on the survey.. smile.gif

This post has been edited by voncrane: Jul 28 2016, 06:49 PM
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post Jul 28 2016, 08:28 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jul 28 2016, 06:44 PM)
I believe this thread is for sharing info, having certain needs met and not ranking who's box is the fastest, etc.. Here's an example, I have 3 Kodi variants installed on my box; one is left as stock (Minix_few MB), the other I use to test builds/play around (Jarvis_sometimes over 2GB), while the last one is considered as a stable installation, having about 10 core addons (Official Jarvis_under 1GB). Pray tell, which do you think would launch or quit the fastest? Which has the higher potential to crash or be buggy? Does that then speak for the box? So I believe even after answering the above questions (you've painstakingly thought of... much effortΒ  notworthy.gif ) per box, it still doesn't really answer what the typical newbie is interested in.. Seasoned Android box users pretty much know what they want and how to go about getting it..

Note: The above is just my opinion, others can feel free to take on the survey..Β  smile.gif
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Noted.

Different people see things differently and with different needs. Hardware spec alone does not always tell the truth as there are other factors affecting the performance eg software structure, complexity, etc. i.e., the overall hardware and software build.

My TV box takes more than 1 min to shutdown Kodi. Surprised that another model takes less than 20 secs to do it! Start up is also faster. Not that I am after the one which is 0.1 sec faster. Just a broad view of which group is faster which will help me in my future upgrade. Using TV box everyday, the speed matters to me.

Looking back on my purchase, if I knew B is this much more responsive/faster, I would be willing to spend RM40 extra to get B over A.

Just my thought.

This post has been edited by plumberly: Jul 28 2016, 08:32 PM
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post Jul 28 2016, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jul 28 2016, 08:28 PM)
My TV box takes more than 1 min to shutdown Kodi. Surprised that another model takes less than 20 secs to do it!
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don't conclude anything with that.

take time to monitor.

things can change over time with more usage, updates, garbage that gets into kodi.

1 min? many experience kodi simply won't shut down! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 28 2016, 09:31 PM

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Clear cache & clear packages prior to shutdown to improve the shutdown time
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post Jul 28 2016, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jul 28 2016, 03:38 PM)
As long as problem solved.. Its all good..  thumbup.gif
Hey...first things first.. inform wifey that FB does not belong on the big screen... Later you kena and sit on the couch screaming inside, while she scrolls FB feeds..  tongue.gif

Next.. If referring to the box in the image below.. At that price point, its quite decent and should accommodate your needs. Of course provided you don't run into unforeseeable circumstances in the future like installing an IPTV app that refuses to cooperate with this hardware, due to a lock-down or whatever.. In which case, oh well! console.gif

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Hmm, as advised... Things do get tricky when Streamyx is involved, you'd get better answers in the Network and Broadband thread.

Tip: When it comes to wireless routers or modems or combos, etc... The rule of thumb is to purchase the best performing router within your budget. This is generally decided by price. For example, as the RRP cost of say an Asus router goes up, the better performance it produces (theoretically). IMO, I wouldn't settle for anything less performing/featured than the Asus RT-AC55UHP.
For router and modem recommendations... Please see above.

Shopping from Aliexpress is relatively straightforward. Stick to the following basics and you should be good.
*Create a free account.
*Search for item you are interested to purchase.
*Take ratings and reviews into account.. Narrow down seller options to a preferred seller.
*Add to cart, select shipping option.. Preferably something express... I.E. Fedex/DHL
*Make payment... Order gets processed and shipped.
*Delivery.. Profit!!
A standalone Modem does a specific job, same as a standalone Router does its job too. They are designed to carry out dedicated tasks. The best router paired with a crappy Modem will still result in crappy Internet. Same applies to the best Modem being paired with a crappy Router. That's where Modem-Router combos come in.. Try to balance both worlds in one device.. Now, since you are all too familiar with the Networks and Broadband section.... You get what needs to be done next!  biggrin.gif
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Will try the aliexpress as u said 😊...this router thing I have to slowly decide too many option kinda confused πŸ˜‹..thank you bro
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post Jul 28 2016, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 28 2016, 04:45 PM)
hey guys, not to hijack the thread, but just wanna tumpang and ask a quick question related to androids...

i know android boxes, i have android tv and use an android phone.

using an ipadmini but planning to buy a samsung galaxy tab s2 9.7.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_tab_s2_9_7-7438.php

anyone using this device?

will this tablet do (almost) everything a box does?

how similar is an android tablet to an android box?

the ui/navigation more similar to android phone than android box, i suppose?

what will it NOT do compared to a typical android box?

any samsung special bonus feature or drawback to be aware of?

just wanna get a few quick comments... thanks.
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I own this tablet, bought it before raya to replace my ageing samsung 10.1. Installed kodi in it too and it runs properly. Tried installing ahem iptv apk and was ok too. It is a 4:3 ratio similarly to ipad size, nice to hold either sides.
Since it is a samsung, you will get few bloatwares but not too annoying. Battery life is ok too
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QUOTE(komandermaut @ Jul 28 2016, 09:51 PM)
I own this tablet, bought it before raya to replace my ageing samsung 10.1. Installed kodi in it too and it runs properly. Tried installing ahem iptv apk and was ok too. It is a 4:3 ratio similarly to ipad size, nice to hold either sides.
Since it is a samsung, you will get few bloatwares but not too annoying. Battery life is ok too
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alright, thanks!
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post Jul 29 2016, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 28 2016, 10:08 PM)
alright, thanks!
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Sifu, this one mcm off topic liao a bit.... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Anyway should consider Huawei M2 with Harmon Kardon speakers top of line

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post Jul 29 2016, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ Jul 28 2016, 12:09 PM)
I feel my innacomm modem hang while using and having poor WiFi signal..im using streamyx 8 mbps...how about dlink performance.
Bro my house is single story..20/70 house..im using streamyx 8mbps..any modem recommendations or adding router will solved my problem..i have weak signal and sometime hang while streaming...
Thank you bro for the link but I didn't have experience buying from aliexpress actually now I'm searching for local seller first if cant find here I have no choice have to learn how to bought from aliexpress
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i using TP Link Archer D2.
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post Jul 29 2016, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE(ranger2020 @ Jul 29 2016, 10:26 AM)
i using TP Link Archer D2.
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Looks interesting bro...so far the tplink performance ok for you....I will look into it..TQ 😊
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Jul 28 2016, 06:44 PM)
An Android box is basically an android tablet with a full HDMI out, Ethernet in, USB ports, etc.. With Samsung devices, you get TouchWiz UI, rather than stock or the box manufacturer's home screen/page and UI. Oh yeah, with a tablet you don't have to deal with certain apps that are designed not to run properly on boxes.. Example of some are the ones which don't want subscribers viewing their content on the large screen.
OR... You type in the box's model or brand in the search bar below and see real world usage reviews & thoughts already typed. No? OR You head over to YouTube, search for an unboxing review or comparison video of the model(s). Why?

I believe this thread is for sharing info, having certain needs met and not ranking who's box is the fastest, etc.. Here's an example, I have 3 Kodi variants installed on my box; one is left as stock (Minix_few MB), the other I use to test builds/play around (Jarvis_sometimes over 2GB), while the last one is considered as a stable installation, having about 10 core addons (Official Jarvis_under 1GB). Pray tell, which do you think would launch or quit the fastest? Which has the higher potential to crash or be buggy? Does that then speak for the box? So I believe even after answering the above questions (you've painstakingly thought of... much effort  notworthy.gif ) per box, it still doesn't really answer what the typical newbie is interested in.. Seasoned Android box users pretty much know what they want and how to go about getting it..

Note: The above is just my opinion, others can feel free to take on the survey..  smile.gif
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noob question here, anything wrong with the stock Minix's kodi? y do you need another Kodi? Stock Kodi have limitation?
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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ Jul 29 2016, 02:07 PM)
Looks interesting bro...so far the tplink performance ok for you....I will look into it..TQ 😊
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so far it works well. this is one of the few cheaper router + modem for dual band wifi.

But if you intend to upgrade to unifi in the future, this modem may not suitable for you. Unifi need other compatible router
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post Jul 29 2016, 08:13 PM

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QUOTE(khan @ Jul 29 2016, 02:38 PM)
noob question here, anything wrong with the stock Minix's kodi? y do you need another Kodi? Stock Kodi have limitation?
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Nope... Not necessarily... I tinker a fair bit and would always like to know that the default non-corrupt Minix version is there as a backup. Particularly for local media playback. Plus it helps that Its been developed specifically for the box's hardware.. 90% of the time, when Kodi is required (online streaming), I use the official Kodi from the Google Play Store and its been great. Then sometimes, I like to mess around with certain builds and hush addons... So I test first on my third Kodi installation and if all good, I transfer what I need the most to the Official Kodi app.. Doing this isn't for everyone as it can be troublesome, But i'm one who likes to know exactly what and when something is installed or deleted. Good for troubleshooting.
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 28 2016, 09:07 PM)
don't conclude anything with that.

take time to monitor.

things can change over time with more usage, updates, garbage that gets into kodi.

1 min? many experience kodi simply won't shut down! biggrin.gif
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My comparison on A and B are with about the same Kodi build & apps. So I have some faith in the time difference.

I also encountered in the past where Kodi or Android would not shutdown. Have to switch off the power.


QUOTE(Xnet @ Jul 28 2016, 09:31 PM)
Clear cache & clear packages prior to shutdown to improve the shutdown time
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Thanks. Will try that and see.

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jul 29 2016, 08:15 PM)
My comparison on A and B are with about the same Kodi build & apps. So I have some faith in the time difference.

I also encountered in the past where Kodi or Android would not shutdown. Have to switch off the power.
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When that happens... Typically means that there's something preventing Kodi from properly executing its shutdown protocols. It could very well be within or outside Kodi... Going thru its logs will help narrow down the culprit... Eh.. So will an app data wipe or factory rest.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(ranger2020 @ Jul 29 2016, 04:26 PM)
so far it works well. this is one of the few cheaper router + modem for dual band wifi.

But if you intend to upgrade to unifi in the future, this modem may not suitable for you. Unifi need other compatible router
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Its a ac modem..price also cheaper...but streamyx only support N right or the N and AC is related to modem...in network and broadband thread member suggest me Tp Link WR841HP V3 high power router...still confused which model to choose πŸ˜‹...sorry guys for asking about networking in this thread wanna njoii my kodi without buffering issue actually 😝

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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ Jul 30 2016, 01:13 AM)
Its a ac modem..price also cheaper...but streamyx only support N right or the N and AC is related to modem...in network and broadband thread member suggest me Tp Link WR841HP V3 high power router...still confused which model to choose πŸ˜‹...sorry guys for asking about networking in this thread wanna njoii my kodi without buffering issue actually 😝
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This modem is compatible with streamyx
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QUOTE(ranger2020 @ Jul 30 2016, 08:25 AM)
This modem is compatible with streamyx
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Oh ok πŸ‘Œ I will look for this modem too..thank you bro
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QUOTE(sivanathan04 @ Jul 30 2016, 01:13 AM)
Its a ac modem..price also cheaper...but streamyx only support N right or the N and AC is related to modem...in network and broadband thread member suggest me Tp Link WR841HP V3 high power router...still confused which model to choose πŸ˜‹...sorry guys for asking about networking in this thread wanna njoii my kodi without buffering issue actually 😝
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Meaning the streaming will be more stable by using better / more powerful router ?
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Anyone subscribe to hdtv? Been trying now, surprisingly stable and quiet smooth smile.gif

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