Currently using 3M Crystalline about 7years+ still going strong. No comments on other brands, most tint Brands fresh install new very good heat rejection with shown IRR99% with meter test but not sure of the durability IRR after few years (some cheap tint might drop irr faster after few months)

This post has been edited by dog999: Apr 25 2024, 10:41 PM

even vkool has year on year degradation...

irispro is an unknown... unless they disclose manufacturer n full spec...

guys,

do you install front windscreen with films to protect from stone chip?
Any brands recommended?

appreciate for your help.

This post has been edited by Colinlim75: Apr 26 2024, 11:08 AM

Better not install Windscreen Protection Film(WPF) coz during emergency Rescue team hard to break in will cost ur life (incase of fire or the car Upside down). If full car comes with safety film , ur large windscreen+rear large windscreen is ur emergency break out. Also insurance company might not cover you, if front windshield install PPF.

PPF/thick safety film takes longer time to break the glass . Just my opinion.

This post has been edited by dog999: Apr 26 2024, 04:22 PM

I just go and checked their website. Their diamond series is 3mil thick where security is usually >4 mil thick. This series is too thick for front windscreen right? Their tints are basically thicker than usual solar tint, is it they make thicker to get higher heat rejection?

Come to think about it, it never crossed my mind to ask them about it. I don't think thicker means more heat rejection tho. I figure it might be due to the multi layers used listed in the website's Technology's Patent #1 and #2.

Anyway, I search thru internet last time when I saw the 3 mil thickness too, car windows tints can range from 1.5mil to 3mil, although most tint are at 1.5mil to 2mil tho. 3mil likely borderline but still within limits of standard car windows tint thickness. From what I know (I may be wrong), most stays at 1.5mil and 2mil for better visual and clarity management. Although the D60 that I used are very sharp and clear. So got no idea if 3mil makes any difference with 2mil on that, I guess it depends on tints quality kuah.

Mm..now that u raise the 3 mil issue, I am curious also why? I see if I can get respond from them on this.

Update : I asked a few questions as I raised my own doubt as well after some questions certain things about the tints I installed and the boss called me instead to explain,

1. Irispro tint is their own tint design, materials with patents and sirim-certified (not just sirim tested). Sirim testing certified it can last 5 to 10 years. Once confirmed that it can perform up to standard only can be Sirim certified. You can check out what Sirim certified means vs Sirim tested. They did the performance test on Sirim as well thus their extra 10 years Performance Warranty. Not sure how this Sirim certification goes tho, I am not sure how it worked, go figure yourself. haha

2. The 3mm is because of their multi-layers designs as stated in their website's Technology link.

3. DX still used nano-titanium layer in the middle but the outer sputter layers are have more sputtering of silver for DX. Diamond have 6 metal inlaid layer in the sputter film, DX have 12 silver sputter inlaid layers in the sputter film. Silver are the best heat resistant metal available for tints (gold cannot afford) with weakness that is is more corrosive. Give and take.

4. The tint itself are 3mil (both Diamond and DX), for side windows, they added an additional 2mil UV layer making it 5mil. They lacked the technology to mold the extra 2mil directly to the multi-layer 3 mil original tint. Also making it 5mil directly will make it very difficult to install in FWS and RWS. So they defaulted back to 3mil. Their layers does not include any anti-break feature but all thick tints with good mold and adhesive will hold longer against glass shattering and the thicker ones will just shatter in 1 pieces inside the tint rather than splattering the glass.

5. Main reason for 1.5mil to 2mil for FWS for most brands are easier installation. FWS and RWS are curved glass, the thinner the tint, the easier to install. 2mil are the sweet spot for installation. It's all depending on adhesive that they used, the better quality the adhesive, the thicker it is, the better it can hold against breaking of glass to pieces. In terms of FWS, 2mil and 3mil makes not much difference in safety. The difference is how they strong they hold the glass together to avoid glass splattering. So no issue for FWS and RWS installation. Most tints including this are shatter resistant, not break resistant.

6. When you break FWS during emergency, you don't really break from the middle coz it is technically the hardest part to break and most good tints with good adhesive and mold will hold and prevent the glass from splattering. You break from the side or corner of FWS or RWS, it will crack the entire FWS, then you smash the entire windscreen in a single piece (the better tint will HOLD the whole windscreen together instead of splattering it all over). So 3 mil makes not difference than 2mil except for harder installation and better holding power against glass splattering.

7. I can't remember now what else I asked, its all explained verbally, so hopefully I did not deviate from the real explanation. This is what I'm told and I'm no expert in this, so I might be wrong in some info. If info is correct, hopes it helps our layman understanding on tints.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Apr 29 2024, 03:42 PM

Hi everyone,

Finally buying my first new car in 1-2 weeks!

I'm looking for tinting + coating services that will help me protect the car and keep the car cool under the sun. Currently budgeting around RM3k for the works.

Does anyone have any recommendations (product/workshop)? Do let me know if the budget does seem unreasonable for what I'm looking for.

I consulted few other brands, and I kinda agreed with their responses. IF one tint needed 3mil to achieve the same heat rejection that can be provided by another tint at 2mil, indirectly means 2mil tint is way better due to quality material. Similarly, a tint with VLT30 that provide same heat rejection as VLT70 tint, indirectly saying that VLT70 tint is way better as it don't need to make the car so much darker to achieve the same target. Of cause, it may not be the case for this IP brand, but I will skip it. Thanks for asking

Lifetime bubble wrty

Any review on alatin tinted or any recommendation on other branda with alatin price range

salam .
recommend kedai tinted HQ yang boleh claim windscreen + tinted .
Takaful Etiqa
Area : Sungai Petani sampai Penang

Np, I also want to know since you raise it also.

Not sure what you mean by VLT30 giving same heat rejection as VLT70, unless the materials quality differs greatly, VLT30 will almost always have better heat rejection than VLT70 coz VLT % contribute to over 50% of TSER result. If VLT30 giving same TSER as VLT70, I would abandon that VLT30 brand straight away....hahaha

Based on the patent tho, I saw 2 layers of UV400 (giving 100% UV protection, as if usual 99% vs 100% really makes any difference in real life at all???) and HEV Blue light resistant films, 2 layers of anti-aging film along with double sputtering (2 main layers of metal sputters). Not sure how other brands layered theirs, they might have different advance tech to melt them, so no comment there. Unless the other brands have same exact features and stated ratings, then I will say 3mm vs 2mm lose out but with double sputters and double layers of most features, it make sense to me for the extra thickness but then again it does not matter for others. I like this tint a lot after I installed them but then there are indeed many good brands outside to compare, none can really say they are better than each other.

Based the listed TSER, it is quite high on TSER with HEV protection features that other tints don't have. Again, HEV blue light filtering might not matter to others, not most priority anyway. For me the stated TSER is just stated indicator to have initial gauge on what heat resistant for the tint might be (some stated more realistic score, some unbelievable high), I would also take it with a grain of salt unless tried and experienced in person.

This post has been edited by Cavino: May 2 2024, 09:56 AM

i heard Ceramic Pro buddle the tinting and coating around 4k for mid size SUV
u can explore ba, if sedan will be cheaper.

i was using 3M Crystalline for my SUV in 2010.... after about 6-7 years- the film starts to deform/distord.

perhaps coz i park outside under the sun everyday.
i would take it as good enough- for anything that last for 5 years

how long is the warranty, should ask for replacement

Google maps windscreen replacement. And call/whatapps each shop if they throw in tint together if replace there. Most Windscreen shops smile happily if claim under Etiqa, but Takaful Etiqa also has no issue as long coverage is enough. If in KL, will suggest one shop in Jalan Klang Lama and another in Subang, cz both manpower skills are top notch and they bundle it with good high IRR tint. My car of 8 years old already had 6 times windscreen replacement under insurance cz heavy travel + if heading Lumut using old kampung road sure hit rock by the lorry there Most windscreen shops skip or cheapskate on the tint when replacing it under insurance.

worst insurance claim for windscreen belongs to P&O those with capped mileage, even coverage enough, most shop turn away cz payment slow/ kene cut by that insurance.

This post has been edited by ayamxxx: May 2 2024, 11:44 AM

My car (8 years plus) with Huper Optic since day 1. Park under hot sun during work days, so far no bubble or peeling or distortion.

right, if VLT30 give same TSER as VLT70, means that VLT70 material is more superior. similarly for thicker tint, it should outperform the thinner thin. So i go for other brands at the end since IP needed thicker tint to perform as those thinner tint.

As someone who’s never tinted my cars before, I’m planning to finally get it done. Was wondering what your experiences are with regards to the darkness level beyond the legal levels. Do you get harassed by the coppers/jpj? Or is it a nonissue unless severe blackout tints?

install mine above JPJ legal but not that high until too obvious. VLT front window and Windscreen slightly above VLT requirement, never caught by roadblock. but this thing is not sure if bad luck kene. installed my car back in 2015 up until now ok