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Cavino
post Apr 22 2024, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Apr 18 2024, 06:50 PM)
oops my bad.. but yeah informative, just that very bias to irispro… one with clear eyes will know the differences between a genuine buyer vs not, but not to share what he said is wrong, but need to filter appropriately..
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Bro, of course need appropriate filtering. I don't just trust what I read on surface value too. The thing is when I read about tints other people installed, it is not detail enuf on daily life. I don't want just technical aspect, coz that can be pure...b@llshit but real life experience on usage of the tints.

If you have clear eyes, you would read that I installed on not just 1 but 2 cars recently, I detailed my experience out. When I find it good, of course I want people to know about it, read it, evaluate it. Then can consider or not to put into list of consideration rather than just ignore what I think is a good tint when it is out there.

Why the detailed description ONLY on Irispro and not other tints becoz they are the ONLY TINTS that I installed after VKool Elite when surveying for metallic tint alternative. I can't bloody well comment in detail with experience on tints that I did not use.

If you call that bias becoz I commend lots on it (becoz again that is the ONLY tint have I installed after I survey for long while) and recommend them whenever ppl ask for tint to be considered, I really don't know to say. I am just bloody active in this forum and too free during this period, so most post asking for tint to recommend within 2-3k budget, I recommend them as another tint to be considered coz I love them....for now...a few years later...see how.

Why keep recommending Irispro, coz I find it working very well and feel greats about it with some hiccup like colour hue, long term reliability unknown but got great tint shops service. It is all written in my posts, both the strength and weakness.

If it is branded one, I likely won't do that coz everyone knows them and will recommend them without me adding to it. For poor Irispro, yeah, it is really only me. So of course I do that since people don't know about them.

Most would just skip over or after read still feel unsecure due to local branded but that is for them to evaluate. I do that myself when I browse for tint replacement but would always appreciate a detailed life experience post for a tint. I read about the Irispro here but no detail experience except for it being a metallic based tint that I am looking for. I cannot find much comment on it, much less detail review. So when I have such experience and love it, I do just that.

To think I would be branded a fake buyer and salesman? Haiiz....that is frustrating. I guess being too enthusiastic about a product can also be condemn.

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post Apr 22 2024, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Apr 18 2024, 06:56 PM)
Thanks for sharing bro. We’re probably around the same age (I won’t be surprised if I’m actually older than you are), and I thought that was a good and informative post
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I too long winded, I know that too.....when I younger, I usually posted a 1 liner or 2 liner posts..
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post Apr 22 2024, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(edr1c @ Apr 21 2024, 11:07 AM)
Penang 🙃
All like +400 compared to what KL offers
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Rare option. Buy rolls and get up to 3-4 cars to install using 1 roll. Only pay installation at your location 😄

https://tintedfilm.com.my/product-category/automotive/

Last time bought here 2 rolls tint for my house, thanks to big sliding it make sun penetrate to living hall like bright room

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Underhill
post Apr 22 2024, 11:10 AM

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Quoted:

IrisPro Elite - RM3800
3M Crystalline - RM3200

Opinion?
Cavino
post Apr 22 2024, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Underhill @ Apr 22 2024, 11:10 AM)
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IrisPro Elite - RM3800
3M Crystalline - RM3200

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What range of vehicle is this? Irispro Elite already so expensive?

If you use smart tag a lot, in general, 3M crystalline got problem with smart tag. All Irispro top range got no issue with smart tag.

If you don't mind smart tag issue, between the 2 ranges, 3M (make sure its real 3M Crystalline) will be more worth it at that price. If it is Irispro DX or Diamond, maybe still can fight but considering that pricing, a bit hard to swallow vs 3M pricing.

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post Apr 22 2024, 12:53 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 22 2024, 11:36 AM)
What range of vehicle is this? Irispro Elite already so expensive?

If you use smart tag a lot, in general, 3M crystalline got problem with smart tag. All Irispro top range got no issue with smart tag.

If you don't mind smart tag issue, between the 2 ranges, 3M (make sure its real 3M Crystalline) will be more worth it at that price. If it is Irispro DX or Diamond, maybe still can fight but considering that pricing, a bit hard to swallow vs 3M pricing.
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Thanks for your feedback!

SUV, comes factory tinted cap ayam god knows what tint.

IrisPro Elite is expensive, but they do not quote me the price "after discount". It can go down cheaper I suppose. IrisPro Diomond was quoted RM4000.

I really hate all these after before "discount" non published pricing.

As for 3M, it's a full Crystalline from an authorized dealer listed on https://www.3m.com.my/3M/en_MY/automotive-w.../find-a-dealer/

I use RFID all the way. SmartTag is a non issue, just that I do not know where my car GPS antenna is, if that matters.


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post Apr 22 2024, 04:37 PM

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QUOTE(Underhill @ Apr 22 2024, 12:53 PM)
Thanks for your feedback!

SUV, comes factory tinted cap ayam god knows what tint.

IrisPro Elite is expensive, but they do not quote me the price "after discount". It can go down cheaper I suppose. IrisPro Diomond was quoted RM4000.

I really hate all these after before "discount" non published pricing.

As for 3M, it's a full Crystalline from an authorized dealer listed on https://www.3m.com.my/3M/en_MY/automotive-w.../find-a-dealer/

I use RFID all the way. SmartTag is a non issue, just that I do not know where my car GPS antenna is, if that matters.
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Besides smart tag that uses IRR signal, 3M crystalline has no issue whatsoever with GPS as it is non metalized.

FYI, good metallized sputter tints also no issue with GPS nowadays. The old phones GPS maybe got problem but not the recent years phones, no issue. GPS signal on devices such as some dashcam might have some interference tho, meaning slower to lock but usually once lock, its good to go.

This post has been edited by Cavino: Apr 22 2024, 04:38 PM
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post Apr 22 2024, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(Cavino @ Apr 22 2024, 10:11 AM)
Bro, of course need appropriate filtering. I don't just trust what I read on surface value too. The thing is when I read about tints other people installed, it is not detail enuf on daily life. I don't want just technical aspect, coz that can be pure...b@llshit but real life experience on usage of the tints.

If you have clear eyes, you would read that I installed on not just 1 but 2 cars recently, I detailed my experience out. When I find it good, of course I want people to know about it, read it, evaluate it. Then can consider or not to put into list of consideration rather than just ignore what I think is a good tint when it is out there.

Why the detailed description ONLY on Irispro and not other tints becoz they are the ONLY TINTS that I installed after VKool Elite when surveying for metallic tint alternative. I can't bloody well comment in detail with experience on tints that I did not use.

If you call that bias becoz I commend lots on it (becoz again that is the ONLY tint have I installed after I survey for long while) and recommend them whenever ppl ask for tint to be considered, I really don't know to say. I am just bloody active in this forum and too free during this period, so most post asking for tint to recommend within 2-3k budget, I recommend them as another tint to be considered coz I love them....for now...a few years later...see how.

Why keep recommending Irispro, coz I find it working very well and feel greats about it with some hiccup like colour hue, long term reliability unknown but got great tint shops service.  It is all written in my posts, both the strength and weakness.

If it is branded one, I likely won't do that coz everyone knows them and will recommend them without me adding to it. For poor Irispro, yeah, it is really only me. So of course I do that since people don't know about them.

Most would just skip over or after read still feel unsecure due to local branded but that is for them to evaluate. I do that myself when I browse for tint replacement but would always appreciate a detailed life experience post for a tint. I read about the Irispro here but no detail experience except for it being a metallic based tint that I am looking for. I cannot find much comment on it, much less detail review. So when I have such experience and love it, I do just that.

To think I would be branded a fake buyer and salesman? Haiiz....that is frustrating. I guess being too enthusiastic about a product can also be condemn.
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no worry, u can continue promoting the brand, but when too much then the hard sales is too obvious.. being an user for one brand for more than 10 years across few different cars, i didn't do hard sale for any as I'm not their SA.. but as baby user to certain brand who already keep praising it, then it is a bit hard for one to agree with as the tint's long term reliability were yet to established... to end, i wouldn't spend 3k on local or OEM brand when others are just selling it at 2k or lower. for 3k, i will pick branded only.
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post Apr 22 2024, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Underhill @ Apr 22 2024, 12:53 PM)
Thanks for your feedback!

SUV, comes factory tinted cap ayam god knows what tint.

IrisPro Elite is expensive, but they do not quote me the price "after discount". It can go down cheaper I suppose. IrisPro Diomond was quoted RM4000.

I really hate all these after before "discount" non published pricing.

As for 3M, it's a full Crystalline from an authorized dealer listed on https://www.3m.com.my/3M/en_MY/automotive-w.../find-a-dealer/

I use RFID all the way. SmartTag is a non issue, just that I do not know where my car GPS antenna is, if that matters.
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are you getting a 6-7 seaters suv? for 5 seaters jap brand SUV, i was quoted for less than 2.8k in KL area... you may need to ask quotation from different seller then.
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post Apr 22 2024, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Underhill @ Apr 22 2024, 11:10 AM)
Quoted:

IrisPro Elite - RM3800
3M Crystalline - RM3200

Opinion?
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I don't know anything about Iris brand, but at least you can trust 3M quality... for this price, I will go for latter... but 3M crystalline, most installer told me it will block SmartTag but not GPS.. im still waiting my new car to test out 3M or llumar tints.. or maybe Vkool if budget permit

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post Apr 22 2024, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Underhill @ Apr 22 2024, 12:53 PM)
Thanks for your feedback!

SUV, comes factory tinted cap ayam god knows what tint.

IrisPro Elite is expensive, but they do not quote me the price "after discount". It can go down cheaper I suppose. IrisPro Diomond was quoted RM4000.

I really hate all these after before "discount" non published pricing.

As for 3M, it's a full Crystalline from an authorized dealer listed on https://www.3m.com.my/3M/en_MY/automotive-w.../find-a-dealer/

I use RFID all the way. SmartTag is a non issue, just that I do not know where my car GPS antenna is, if that matters.
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i would use factory cap ayam brand first... if really tak boleh then only change...

maybe culprit is just fws... so just vkool that...

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post Apr 22 2024, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(Underhill @ Apr 22 2024, 12:53 PM)
Thanks for your feedback!

SUV, comes factory tinted cap ayam god knows what tint.

IrisPro Elite is expensive, but they do not quote me the price "after discount". It can go down cheaper I suppose. IrisPro Diomond was quoted RM4000.

I really hate all these after before "discount" non published pricing.

As for 3M, it's a full Crystalline from an authorized dealer listed on https://www.3m.com.my/3M/en_MY/automotive-w.../find-a-dealer/

I use RFID all the way. SmartTag is a non issue, just that I do not know where my car GPS antenna is, if that matters.
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Installed IrisPro Diamond on my mum’s car (Corolla Cross Hybrid) middle of last year.
RM2,600 if I remember correctly. Price included removal of factory tint. One benefit of this brand is that the warranty is company based, not shop based. Meaning you can claim at any authorized branch across the country. With majority of other “branded/international” films, you can only claim at the shop you installed it.

3M Crystalline quote was around RM3,500 for the same car. But I had bad experience with 3M on a previous car so skipped. 3M a lot of fakes around (especially in JB where I’m based, in order to scam Singaporeans) so very hard to verify.

V-kool Elite/Serendipity combo was quoted RM4,500 for the Cross. I trust this brand and have it on my own car, but it’s pricey (Harrier XU80 RM5k whole car including pano roof) and warranty claims only applicable to the shop you installed it.

My advice to you;
For an everyday commodity car (ie; not luxury level) if you intend to comply with JPJ (or maybe just front windscreen slightly darker than 70% vlt rule), then go with one of the reputable brands and make sure the installer has a good history of honouring warranty. If you don’t care for JPJ rules, then just go with a local brand 30% vlt for whole car for around RM700. Change every 1.5 - 2 years when you notice performance degrading. Even across 5 or 6 yrs of car ownership, the total cost will still be lower than a single installation of a reputable brand.

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post Apr 23 2024, 01:07 AM

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The amount of time we have to waste on a car is just mind-boggling. And, of course, money! If the amount spent on plastic films is higher than the cost of my recent trekking trip in the Himalayas, I'm starting to question my sanity. biggrin.gif

It's just a Proton X90 FS, and the factory tint comes with a 5-year warranty.

I'm somewhat reluctant to re-tint, but I can tell the heat rejection is poor. I also do not like the flawed look, where the rear window is much darker than the front; it doesn't seem seamless.

I had a bad experience with an installer's workmanship on my other car (which I won't name); they pried open my car door panel with a test pen, and I had to live with the scratches.

Oh yeah, FWS is a major culprit.

Thanks for your valuable insights, folks.
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post Apr 23 2024, 08:01 AM

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QUOTE(Underhill @ Apr 23 2024, 01:07 AM)
The amount of time we have to waste on a car is just mind-boggling. And, of course, money! If the amount spent on plastic films is higher than the cost of my recent trekking trip in the Himalayas, I'm starting to question my sanity. biggrin.gif

It's just a Proton X90 FS, and the factory tint comes with a 5-year warranty.

I'm somewhat reluctant to re-tint, but I can tell the heat rejection is poor. I also do not like the flawed look, where the rear window is much darker than the front; it doesn't seem seamless.

I had a bad experience with an installer's workmanship on my other car (which I won't name); they pried open my car door panel with a test pen, and I had to live with the scratches.

Oh yeah, FWS is a major culprit.

Thanks for your valuable insights, folks.
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Try get what is the spec installed by proton on factory tint. If it is Mazda CX-5, the all windows apart from front windscreen, its getting 97% IRR while the windscreen is 55% IRR. Hence everyone complaining it hot.
https://ice-u.com.my/activ-e/

For that car, just replacing the front windscreen also does major difference due to IRR percentage

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post Apr 23 2024, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(dwRK @ Apr 22 2024, 08:02 PM)
i would use factory cap ayam brand first... if really tak boleh then only change...

maybe culprit is just fws... so just vkool that...
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Actually for me, the rear windscreen tint should be the best quality, FWS is very important but it really can be easily changed, not to mention over the lifetime of the car, you "might" need to change them due to cracks especially if you are a highway user in Klang Valley. Rear windscreen preferably once installed will stay there perfectly for a long time.

As for why Rear Windscreen need the best quality first, the risk of demister damage every time you remove the tint. If the cheap tints's adhesive are of low quality or the tint quality are very brittle, the possible risk of damage on the demister is higher during removal. So I always emphasis good quality tint for the rear windscreen first opposite most ppl only concentrate on FWS although in terms of heat, FWS makes the largest impact. I'm looking from the point of view of car care rather than just comfort for that.

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post Apr 23 2024, 08:26 AM

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QUOTE(Sir_Jim @ Apr 22 2024, 07:46 PM)
no worry, u can continue promoting the brand, but when too much then the hard sales is too obvious.. being an user for one brand for more than 10 years across few different cars, i didn't do hard sale for any as I'm not their SA..  but as baby user to certain brand who already keep praising it, then it is a bit hard for one to agree with as the tint's long term reliability were yet to established... to end, i wouldn't spend 3k on local or OEM brand when others are just selling it at 2k or lower. for 3k, i will pick branded only.
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When you said it that way....it makes sense. Ok, my bad.

When I install this, its 2.6K tho,,,then upgrade 2.8K to DX. It included a perfect job of removing old tints from both my 16 and 18 years old cars. Demister for both still worked like a charm. The pricing also included full arrangement of windscreen replacement directly in the center. When I look at that pricing included the excellent services, I can't help but try to help promote the brand a bit when I can because I think they are worth it. That is from the pricing view of a sedan...tho coz when it goes SUV, the high pricing, not sure.

Unfortunately I did not think it would look like that to a sceptic of premium price local brands, but I accept as it does look like that when I look from your POV now that you mentioned the reason. I am never a sceptic of any brands local or international, just look at their price range and then the review on quality of tints.

For metallic sputter tints, my bias preference, not much choice at that. So I would still recommend them if ppl looking for good metallic sputter tint alternatives coz I found one that I like and think the company doing this is ok.

Maybe try not to sound so enthusiastic tho, my bad on this, as I did not look from a neutral point of 3rd party but one who have used them and are excited about it... sweat.gif whistling.gif
And you are also right, I run the risk of recommending one when I have not use it long term, I may or may not regret a few years later...mmm, let me think about it.... rolleyes.gif hmm.gif

As for the pricing, I think I have to disagree that local brands have to sell at 2K or lower if they think their quality are on par with the premium ones. Maybe you are not into metallic sputter, you might not care, I do, so it will appeal to people with the same bias. I won't recommend them over nano ceramic tho as both have their pro and cons aka premium metallic sputter are usually more expensive in general but against advancement of technology of nano ceramic, I can't be sure of premium nano ceramic cost.

My 2 cents is good metallic sputter tints cannot be sold too low a price coz its generally more expensive to produce real good metallic sputter. If sold at low price, I would definitely think there is something wrong with material they used for sputtering or the sputtering process is not what they say they did. It would be harder to sell at premium price tho, unfortunately but when the selling price is too low for a premium metallic sputter tint that the owner really believes is good, they would drag the brand name to 3rd rate brands and would likely never be able to achieve the premium brand name that they aim for. Its a dilemma for them if you think about it.

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post Apr 23 2024, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 23 2024, 08:01 AM)
Try get what is the spec installed by proton on factory tint. If it is Mazda CX-5, the all windows apart from front windscreen, its getting 97% IRR while the windscreen is 55% IRR. Hence everyone complaining it hot.
https://ice-u.com.my/activ-e/

For that car, just replacing the front windscreen also does major difference due to IRR percentage
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The spec as below, worth to re tint?

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QUOTE(Underhill @ Apr 23 2024, 01:32 PM)
The spec as below, worth to re tint?

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iiwu. will do the windscreen tint only with better IRR%. Take 95% IRR
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post Apr 23 2024, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(Underhill @ Apr 23 2024, 01:32 PM)
The spec as below, worth to re tint?

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Do note the original FWS tint is not working very well coz is JPJ compliant.

You can actually live with them, many does but if you want max comfort clear tint, then change lor but effective tints like VKool and 3M that listed 70+% have very high risk of failing Puspakom test. These tints won't be stop in operasi tho coz very clear, operasi only aim for cars with much darker front tint.

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Hi guys. One question, IRR 96% can lepas smart tag or not?

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