i was using 3M Crystalline for my SUV in 2010.... after about 6-7 years- the film starts to deform/distord.

perhaps coz i park outside under the sun everyday.
i would take it as good enough- for anything that last for 5 years

Hi sifus, wanna ask - is it ok if my tint doesn't comply with JPJ specs? SA advised that if i go ahead with JPJ spec tinting, will feel very hot (I'm just getting the cheapo RM500 tinting, so IRR will be very low). He suggested that i get windshield 50% VLT (JPJ: 70%), front seats 30% (JPJ: 50%) and back seats 20%.

Wanted to hear everyone's opinions on whether it's a common practice to not comply with JPJ specs, and what are the risks of kena saman? Heard that saman cases due to tinting is less rampant lately.

Appreciate any kind of sharing or feedback or advise as I'm a first time carbuyer. Thank you in advance!!

Afaik with JPJ roadblocks the officers are issued one of two types of meters;

The first type is similar to the one our tint installers use, meaning the need to put the glass in between it to measure, which technically means they only have the ability to measure side windows. In those instances, you’ll pass as long as your front side windows measure above 50% VLT. Do note that many 50% VLT films will end up measuring lower once combined with the window glass, so in this case a 55% - 60% VLT film is a safer bet.

The second type is a two piece device that’s like two sticks. That one can measure any glass. The officer will hold one end outside over the windshield car and pull the other end inside (through your side window) to align it under your windshield. The problem with that decice is that they’re the same models Puspakom uses which are (I suspect intentionally) calibrated in such a way that they will fail those inspected vehicles that are below 76 or 77% VLT (some places only 80% VLT will pass), so there’s a high chance you’ll fail that test anyway even if your tint is legal.

Usually they let you off if they can see your face. If not, just be polite about it and tell them that in this weather sticking to 70% “tak boleh hidup lah bang” and they will close one eye most of the time.

TL;DR = “Kalau dia boleh nampak you punya muka suda boleh lah” as most of the tint installers will tell us

The affordable price make people question mark for the quality. I gambled this brand 3 years ago cz spec decent but price cheap. Luckily it still work on 3rd year

So I guess most windscreens bare without any tint is in the range of VLT 75% to 80%.

I've not encountered any roadblock for the past 20+ years in nabbing vehicles with dark tints. Touch wood. I have seen such operasi before but my car wasn't stopped. But with the most recent announcement by the government in 2019 it was mentioned RM2k fine or jail, so if they take it seriously this time I presume a lot of vehicles will not pass in a JPJ roadblock.

That's the reason I am asking if anyone here has experienced his/her vehicle being tested in a JPJ roadblock. I will surely not put any tint on the front windscreen if JPJ is going all out on the operasi. For the front side windscreens, it is still ok to pick one with VLT 75% I guess since the limit is VLT 50% Better than nothing.

I see, thanks for the pricing. So, V-kool Elite (front), VK55 (front side) and VK30(rear side and rear) costs RM4850 and V-kool Elite whole car only costs RM2388? Big difference there. Might as well just do whole car with V-kool elite if it's just RM2388 and just stick a 2nd layer of cheap dark tint on the side rear and rear. maybe just adding RM200-300 to make it darker for anyone who desires darker windscreens at the rear?? Much cheaper that way than doing the full optimal V-kool option at RM4850?

Looks like Irispro is much cheaper.

Good information thanks. Will inquire when the time is right.

Used rhinepro for almost 4 years. Cheap (got mine done for less than 1k)

Pros:
Good heat rejection, felt really cooling
My shop got quite good workmanship, no bubbles up till now
Cheap

Cons:
The 70vlt had a blue tint that i didn't like. Obstruct visibility during rain. I went back to shop, they say they never had anyone complain this issue. But nevertheless willing to redo for me. Since they say tint no issue, i also dun doubt them, i jz retint to 50%vlt (since all other windows are fine.) Not jpj compliant but ok la, better than poor visibility during rain (strong light dispersion)
Color fade really quickly. Mine is almost illegal type of dark esp at night. In 2 years, faded a lot. In 4 years, almost completely gone d
Heat rejection also will decrease, but not by alot. Maybe about 20-30% after 4 years.

If I've not mistaken Totalgard's top 2 range is around this price range. I took the Infusion Pro. Even the top-of-the-range most expensive tint, for whole car it's less than RM1k if I'm not mistaken.

Original quoted prices for Titanium Plus are RM3k+ but in reality it starts at RM1.2k+. There are further discounts too if you are lucky.

I was looking into ceramic films from 3M, Huper Optik and XPEL. If based on TSER% XPEL would be the highest among the bunch not to mention the most expensive too. But how are we to make sure these figures are not cooked up ?

My priority would be to have a better heat rejection

Original quoted prices for Titanium Plus are RM3k+ but in reality it starts at RM1.2k+. There are further discounts too if you are lucky.

DX series has a obviously better heat resistance than D series, not on paper but on real life feel. You can seriously consider it if the price is not too much difference.

Diamond 60X (DX60), not in website. Instead of titanium double sputter, it add upgraded additional silver sputter to the nano-titanium sputter layer. Silver sputter is one of the best heat metal used for tint for heat resistant but do come with oxidization risk. Nano titanium has no such risk tho.

They added extra layer of material (whatever that is) to minimize oxidization of silver. It has noticeable better heat resistance but also noticeable dimmer with hazy light greenish internal lighting vs golden Diamond 60 (D6). It terms of brightness, I prefer D60 better but DX60 does really better heat resistance. My civic has D60 FWS, DX60 side. Persona DX60 FWS...so sort of can compare under direct sunlight on the back of the palm. On paper VLT only 2% lesser for DX60 but it is noticeable in real life, still the meter VLT reading is indeed only 2% less than D60. Maybe is the colouring make it somehow dimmer (some might like it) but I prefer brighter if possible. At night both very clear, no difference.

for my car...initially wanted to go 15% only for FWS...then think about it again, when driving at night might be a hazard when it's too dark

in the end, installed 40% for FWS

during roadblocks like you said - if driver is visible to police/jpj outside, they won't whip out the meter device to test

At current climate will suggest 40% VLT 😄

3M crystalline should be ok lah... even vkool elite if everyday in the sun also have problems eventually... anyways these are the known top brands and top product line...
iirc not jpj legal...   i think their films are from Japan... went to check them out a while ago so memory not so clear liao... a lot of ppl swear by them few yrs back... relatively cheap but irr not good on their cheaper range...