nice. any vacancy?

I never thought that anybody can get more than 5 figures as a System Admin.

I have friends with Senior level and doing same as u, only achieve less than rm6k.

How depreciation his company value to his experiences and loyalty. He should try to find better oppo outside.

yes, he should, loyalty is often overrated, it's ridiculous to expect other to care about your future when oneself don't even has the initiative to look for better job. Whether he willing to look or not is another question.

i didn't get it straight away, there were many jumps in between to reach this.

This post has been edited by meme00: Aug 27 2015, 01:37 PM

Job Title : Account Executive
Job Desciption : Accounts
Years spent in company : 2 months
Age : 24
Industry : Forklift
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Entry level
Experience before joining : 1 year+ inclusive of call centre & banking line
Highest paper qualification / education background : Degree in accounting
Salary : RM2,800 (under probation)
Location: KL


Hye guys. Is my payout reasonable or can I demand higher after being confirmed?

After probation can ask for extra 200-400.. Depending on your company's overall performance also.

To be honest, new offer RM5,100 is very tempting and position also higher than current.

There are two option

Stay - If you got the chance to promote to supervisor then it is big prospect to your future. And after promotion there will be likely 10-20% increment (or greater) where it will be on par or higher than your current new offer. As you had working for long time with current company, you are familiar with all the function and well handle all issues. When you are supervisor next time your reputation will make you being respect by your subordinates and greater team spirit. After another 2 years staying in supervisor role you may advance to manager position or seek outside opportunity with higher value.

Quit - new offer is attractive with higher position of assistant manager and if the responsibility is bigger mean good for learning and up skill your capability. However as the first year joining new company, the increment always lower than other colleagues who work longer time there. Beside, it always take 6 months or 1 year to familiarize your job function and it takes time for you to prove your performance. It is very hard a new employee joining the company for less than 2 years can perform well to get 1st grade of KPI rating.

My personal opinion if you confident will get promotion in current company then I advise you stay. Internal promotion value is stronger than jumping new company to get promotion. Internal promotion is that you had proved your performance to company and yourself whereby jump to other company get promotion may not justify your capability.

What makes you feel you should demand higher when there are tens of thousand fresh grad degree in accounting (highest graduates course) out there seeking RM 2k only. Even if there were 1-2 years experience jobseeker the salary of accounting student are around 2.5k (small or medium company).

My advice is before age of 30 years old you should sharper your skill even though the salary is moderate. If you are asking for high salary which not justify your contribution, your market value is low.

* Accounting course having highest population which include LCCI, ACCA, CPA, CFA, Degree etc. You may find it surprise that there are accounting graduates from University Mxlaya getting RM1,500 salary. Reason being there are oversupply of accounting students.

Job Title : Product Executive
Job Description : To manage and oversee the entire process of a product
Years spent in company : 1 year
Age : 25
Industry : FMCG
Tenure : Permanent
Employment Level : Junior
Experience before joining : 6 months internship
Highest paper qualification / education background : Degree in Marketing
Salary : RM 3,200
Location: KL

Am I underpaid?

This post has been edited by kwang0026: Aug 27 2015, 08:51 PM

Last mth I just conduct Interview with a candidate
She requested RM2.5k as starting salary w/o xperience
Reason given was cost of living is very High

Which is true and please, 2.5k was 5-10years ago fresher pay.

What do you expect when you are inexperience, 4k salary? Your current salary definitely not underpaid instead consider above average. Do you own survey at job market compare to your current salary to find out whether you really underpaid. Nowadays youngster always asking high pay though they are not productive yet.

10 years ago 2.5k is big mnc fresh grad payout, but there were thousand of candidates fighting for a post. Average fresh grad salary was 1.6-2k only for business stream grad.

In fact 10 years ago maybe got 30k fresh grad came out society but now each year produce probably 100k fresh grad a year. And now there are more and more companies collapsed even the so called best paid out industry like oil and gas get serious impact due to global crude oil price drop tremendously. Shxll is considering move out most of function and will slash their employee numbers. MNC IT companies in msia almost every year have layout due to high operating cost and market slow issue (I spent 6 years in this industry).

No offense but I am talking about majority of gen Y are different. Many of them are demand for high pay, low workload, unable stand for stress, express their thought freely to their leader without second thought. A real case happened to my customer, he got the a staff age 20+ said can't work till 8pm because his mum will worry about him work late and without experience asking for 2.5k.

Job Title : Assistant Architect? / Architect Intern?
Job Desciption :
Years spent in company : One month
Company : Local firm
Industry : Architecture industry
Tenure : 1 year
Employment Level : Fresh grad (Part 1)
Experience before joining : N/A
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Degree (Part 1 Architecture)
salary : RM1500
Location: KL

Before saying anything, I know I did the wrong move. At first, I only decided to enter this firm as my friend recommended his father's firm. Thus, thinking that I already had a secure job position, I didn't apply to other firms. However, on my first day of job, I just realized the firm treated me as an intern, not a full time employee. I'm not looking for internship, cause I am a full degree graduated student.

For architects out there, is it normal or do I need to find somewhere else? RM1.5k (allowance not salary!) is a joke for a degree graduate. Even sales assistant at cyber cafe downstairs below of my office can earn more for just SPM qualification. The problem is I will be continuing my Part 2 studies within a year, so seeking a full time job for just 7-8 months doesn't sound plausible.

lol I guess I am really out of touch with the current market trend

whereby my first job as a freshgrad salary was more than 2.5k

I got a friend who is a freshgrad work as a software developer getting paid at only rm2.5k he already complained like no tomorrow, luckily after confirmed he has rm300 rise, but the expectations put onto him is same as someone who already has 3 yr experience, typical chinaman company eh

it is true that the number of degree holders is increasing but how many of them are of good quality.. we shouldn't generalize all Gen Y as having bad attitudes and judge them for only qualified for getting rm2.5k and below

I freshgrad 7 years ago also RM2.5k first pay. No experience and work extra 2 hrs/day only at chinapek company. Tea time eat fried rice kosong, no egg.

WTF now you complain pay worker RM2.5k. HELLO!

It's like that bro. There's already a disconnect between those experienced and fresh grads. To be honest 2.5k for a respectable MNC is already considered ok but from what I see here many are saying it's very high. I guess most that lurk here are Gen x or those in the early gen y generation.

When I start working I only got RM2k and I ain't even complaining. People these days expect high salary but low workload. Funny people we have among us.

My sister got 2k when she was fresh grads in 2012

have you actually grad? Cause your putting part 1 and 2 is confusing me as if you haven't finish the whole degree how could you consider yourself fresh grad?