To be honest, new offer RM5,100 is very tempting and position also higher than current.

There are two option

Stay - If you got the chance to promote to supervisor then it is big prospect to your future. And after promotion there will be likely 10-20% increment (or greater) where it will be on par or higher than your current new offer. As you had working for long time with current company, you are familiar with all the function and well handle all issues. When you are supervisor next time your reputation will make you being respect by your subordinates and greater team spirit. After another 2 years staying in supervisor role you may advance to manager position or seek outside opportunity with higher value.

Quit - new offer is attractive with higher position of assistant manager and if the responsibility is bigger mean good for learning and up skill your capability. However as the first year joining new company, the increment always lower than other colleagues who work longer time there. Beside, it always take 6 months or 1 year to familiarize your job function and it takes time for you to prove your performance. It is very hard a new employee joining the company for less than 2 years can perform well to get 1st grade of KPI rating.

My personal opinion if you confident will get promotion in current company then I advise you stay. Internal promotion value is stronger than jumping new company to get promotion. Internal promotion is that you had proved your performance to company and yourself whereby jump to other company get promotion may not justify your capability.

What makes you feel you should demand higher when there are tens of thousand fresh grad degree in accounting (highest graduates course) out there seeking RM 2k only. Even if there were 1-2 years experience jobseeker the salary of accounting student are around 2.5k (small or medium company).

My advice is before age of 30 years old you should sharper your skill even though the salary is moderate. If you are asking for high salary which not justify your contribution, your market value is low.

* Accounting course having highest population which include LCCI, ACCA, CPA, CFA, Degree etc. You may find it surprise that there are accounting graduates from University Mxlaya getting RM1,500 salary. Reason being there are oversupply of accounting students.

What do you expect when you are inexperience, 4k salary? Your current salary definitely not underpaid instead consider above average. Do you own survey at job market compare to your current salary to find out whether you really underpaid. Nowadays youngster always asking high pay though they are not productive yet.

10 years ago 2.5k is big mnc fresh grad payout, but there were thousand of candidates fighting for a post. Average fresh grad salary was 1.6-2k only for business stream grad.

In fact 10 years ago maybe got 30k fresh grad came out society but now each year produce probably 100k fresh grad a year. And now there are more and more companies collapsed even the so called best paid out industry like oil and gas get serious impact due to global crude oil price drop tremendously. Shxll is considering move out most of function and will slash their employee numbers. MNC IT companies in msia almost every year have layout due to high operating cost and market slow issue (I spent 6 years in this industry).

No offense but I am talking about majority of gen Y are different. Many of them are demand for high pay, low workload, unable stand for stress, express their thought freely to their leader without second thought. A real case happened to my customer, he got the a staff age 20+ said can't work till 8pm because his mum will worry about him work late and without experience asking for 2.5k.

For most generation Y they have same thought like you saying stay back mean inefficient. If you are in corporate especially big MNC, you will find out the company giving lots of workload which we hardly finish the task before 6pm. That's why some MNC allow employees to take their laptop back and continue work from home. I am not asking the youngster to stayback but there are many work remain pending and yet they still insist to go home on time.

I do not agree to stay back OT however finish the task within the day is an obligation as employee are receive wages from company to do their job right. Nowadays youngster asking for higher salary but less workload and go home on time, what about the senior when their salary is just about 10% - 20% who have higher workload need stay back and more stress. Do not tell me the gen Y is guarantee more efficient than previous gen, if yes please prove it with evidence.

e.g. admin staff general comparison

fresh grad demand for 2.5k, 1 experience
senior current pay RM 3k, 5 years experience

So how the senior will feel when they contribute more than the junior yet the salary was only 20% higher than fresh grad. Senior are proven capable to work but fresh grad performance is remain unknown until they stay more than a year to justify.

I believe to get fresh grad in productive always take at least 6 months, learn and practice during the period. But nowadays there are numbers of fresh grad always wanted to go home on time. It is not an easy task for senior to guide them because senior also has their own workload to handle. To delegate to job to junior easier said than done if they are not good learner and not so hard working. Imagine if the senior delegate a task to junior though junior has practised, but the junior asking the same question over again to senior and always seek senior to guide, this actually take longer time to complete the task.

That is why when I give training to junior, I show them how to do. The next time if they ask me it is fair because they first practise the task, but if they ask second time the same question it means they don't pay attention. Asking the 3rd time on the same question mean they do not know what they are doing. If you have ever met a junior who is type of spoon fed you will find it not easy to work with those junior who not pay attention while learning.

Seeking guidance from senior is good, but junior should not always dependant to senior to solve their problem.

Are you new to the corporate society? How many companies will give a raise to senior that is considered fairness. That is why many senior staffs quit and join new company to seek for 20-30% jump of salary. I can tell you this apply not only in chinaman company but also many MNC. Most of the time it is not because of the manager but the company HR policy that not allow such a huge rate of increment. There is a so called salary range especially in big corporate or MNC where staff cannot simply ask for big jump which not comply with the policy.

As a fresh grad they can say joining new company is seeking learning opportunity to pick up experience and skills. As company is expecting fresh grad to learn more than contribution, it is fair the company paying fresh grad salary rather than paying a senior salary to fresh grad. when company hire a senior, company is not expecting senior take long time to learn instead company expect senior in productive within short period of time, that is why they are paid for senior salary.

I am working in KL and I had been working in IT MNC like IxM and Hewlxtt Pxckard for number of years. I am Gen X when I join the IxM as fresh grad and I leave Hx the fresh grads were occupied by Gen Y.
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My own personal opinion. Gen Y is generally creative than previous Gen and they tend to think of the box too. There are many fresh ideas from Gen Y which might be or might not be accepted by company. Gen Y open to speak their thought out freely and communication is better as well. However there are few things I discovered myself where there are comment weakness of Gen Y.

1. Careless - Working on the task is quick but less precise.

2. Less hardworking - Gen Y always emphasize on work life balance no matter in what situation. Thanks to Airasix always has promotion and Gen Y are more enjoy their life in travelling than working. I almost find none of the Gen Y willing to share the workload of other colleagues and they claim it was not inside their responsibility.

3. Less considerate - Gen Y commonly found as much ego compare to Gen X or earlier. They can argue and talk loud and rude to their senior or leader without considerate other's feeling.

4. Demanding - I am wondering how the fresh grad or Gen Y junior dare to ask for high salary or increment when they are yet to prove their performance to the employer. I have met few Gen Y asking for more than 8% increment where their KPI is average or below but even the better KPI worker is getting about 6%.

We are not saying to pay fresh grad at RM1500 but not as high as somewhere RM3000, have to be realistic figure for inexperience person. If fresh grad thinking to pack their bags to go SG it is up to them. There are many people went to SG earning big exchange rate to enjoy better lifestyle which is good thing. However my advice to those who ambitious may think twice before moving to SG as the corporate ladder for Msia is least when come to think there are many elite from SG, MY, China, Philippines, Thailand, Japan, Korea, HK, Taiwan etc countries. Many of the management posts are held by either SG people or Caucasian. There maybe 70% of Msia end by earning average of 5-7k (at least degree holder) till their retirement age and yet still stuck at senior officer role. In SG there is very least opportunity to become entrepreneur even a small retail shop, the competition is intense and small enterprise or small player unable to survive as few big players capture the whole market.

FYI, there are many big corporate or listed companies in Msia paying more than 10k salary for manager or senior manager role. For director level the remuneration can be anything more than 20k per month excluding bonus. Beside if individual want to self-employ, there are opportunities to become entrepreneur but it subject to condition such as capital, location (much bigger than SG), products etc.