Peeps,

This is the 1st official thread for jazz petrol ckd. Pls share your experience and thoughts!


Cheers!

This post has been edited by ReVolVolution: Sep 21 2016, 07:31 PM

i just seen a dark purple one. looks like small mpv and more aerodynamic front. sporty it seems.

www.mudah.my/Honda+Jazz+1+3+Hybrid+A+NEW+PRICING-22035920.htm

Thanks but no thanks. Don't like hybrid.

So, any owners here want to comment on their new car?

I drive the previous gen,thinking of getting a Prius c.

Nobody got their jazz 1.5 ckd yet??

Ya, nobody..

I'm also wondering whether it's a good buy. If anyone can share their experience

Price wise it's a good buy. I would have gotten my 2nd Jazz if it's not because out of stock!

Saw one on the road with WYX plate, have to say it somehow looks better than the previous CBU one

tested and worth every penny....GOOD BUY for that kind of $$$ and reliability...

cheers

When did you tested the car? As I know, there are no stocks in the whole country! Unless, you tested when it launched in July...

how you know the reliability when it's a new car???

this is not the same as the previous thai CBU although it does look quite the same... HM says there is 30~40% parts being localized which lead to a cheaper price tag...

actually the CKD bumper looks quite good...

one of the specific thai CBU models had a bumper that made the car look a big roundish from the back...at least this one was not too bad even without the skirts and bodykits...

hey guys, i would like to know the same, anyone tested the jazz ckd?

i m interested in changing my car and the jazz ckd price is very attractive

K. After a looooong wait, I finally collected the jazz for my wife. 1st impression :-

1. Comfortable suspension - better than myvi 1.5 SE (was using that before)
2. Good and acceptable sound system
3. Outstanding FC. I filled it up to the brim and the range states the car can go 670kms till empty!!!! Wow... But I need to test this la...
4. Switches more solid.

Now the cons:-
1. Side mirror cannot retract using remote
2. No buzzer sound for alarm

Erm... That's all for now. So far, of course it's better than myvi 1.5se. But price of course different also.

imo, the steering is a bit light do u feel the same way ts?

Agree. Light but light like all EPS nowadays, except those cars that can control the 'heaviness' of the steering feel eg cerato etc.

To me, still acceptable la. No difference with myvi steering feel.

U wont get 670km, trust me... I would be very surprise if u can get even 570km in 50-50 road...

This post has been edited by nova_freak: Nov 7 2013, 07:34 AM

Haha... What's your best FC?

I don't mind if it's 570km coz myvi's best is only 400kms. Petrol tank for both are the same.

On sedan city, presumably almost equivalent to jazz, i'm getting 500-550km (60% rural 40% town driving). for highway, i think 600-650km is possible with careful feet

This post has been edited by kucingfight: Nov 7 2013, 11:18 AM

the side mirrors don't auto fold on car lock... even the previous accord didn't have this feature if i am not wrong...

the buzzer sound is a mystery... not sure why they came to this decision to have lights blinking as the indicator instead of sound... but, it's no longer the cobra alarm they previously used... but, it's no deal killer...

EPS is speed sensitive... it is lighter and less sensitive on slow speeds to help with parking and stuff... and it will load up as speed increases...although it will never be as heavy as some cars...

i doubt it can do 570 even.... it depends on how and where you drive the car...

the range cannot be trusted when you first reset it after a pump.. you need to drive it a while as it's calculated based on your KM/L if i am not wrong...

that's why i always calculate by dividing (trip traveled since last refuel)/(liter of fuel filled now) to get the KM/L for measure...
or u want L/100KM also can...
but never RM/KM or whatever $/$
coz price will change...as we will experience more soon...its more difficult to compare measure...

personally also helping gf to check out for 1...i m surveying if jazz is ok...
my own city i average clock 14km/l ++

i think in term of size/appearance/features/etc, its a good car for her...but problem is with the 5000km service routine...which i also find costly for myself last time...
quite not a good deal for a cost-conscious her... especially she travels short distance...sure no 5000km in 3months...

wonder if everyone stick so well with the schedule...

What I was advised from my SA is that after the 10k service, the next service is 20k and so on?

This post has been edited by ReVolVolution: Nov 7 2013, 05:19 PM

Pls update us on the actual FC. I would be interested to know.

not an option... warranty issues...

i do 10k in my current car.. estimate the mileage remains the same...it's not cheap for me as well especially comparing the cost of my current car against it...

but, she should do what she think is worth it... if she feels nicer driving in a better car albeit short distances.. it might still have a chance of worth to her... if she thinks of it as a mode of transport and it is strangling her financially... better of getting something less expensive and still sensible like a myvi and live with it...

that's what i think of the situation... but, frankly to say... 75k ain't too far from a full spec 1.5SE myvi which is 56k + the higher interest rates... the question of money is as always cannot be avoided... it's just whether if she can see it as a worthy purchase over time...

there is no 10k service for jazz... there is fully synthetic option.. but also same 5k interval...

she kind of a bit tempted for jazz also...jz tat not sure if she willing to up the budget...
but found there are some offering for year end where some branch may hav 10k disc for jazz hybrid too...
with the 3yr service as well, if true...worth considering...but budget again up a bit...lol
i basically compiled all info for her
jazz hybrid = disc 10k (mayb can or cant find) + 3yr free serv
jazz petrol = 73k+ with no disc n free thing...
of coz as usual ppl will come to concern of reliability of hybrid...
so see la...plan to bring her around to check out all n see she happy with wat

all in all the lowest n cheapest would be going myvi..lol

the jazz hybrid is still having a 10k discount on all branches... but car has to be registered before 31st december 2013 and they are currently lacking of stock as far as i know... the wait list is actually lined up until mid jan already... so, you need to hunt a dealership that can give it to you sooner...

price wise for the hybrid... it's 90k - 10k discount - 3.5k (if i am not wrong service labour charges over the duration of 3 years) meaning the car + ownership cost is about 76~77k over the first 3 years

while the ckd petrol is 75k with no discounts and a 3.5k service labour charges over the first 3 years to retain the warranty... which comes to about 78~79k car + ownership cost over the first 3 years..

the only major difference is the lacking of 4 disc on hybrid (cosmetic thing) and a different center console and chrome grills....

reliability wise.. it's anyone's guess.. i doubt the car will fail... but the battery lifespan is more or less a worry... but, as it is an assist motor rather than a full EV capable one like the prius... the utilization of the battery is lower compared to prius which should mean the battery can retain charge for a longer period of years... hence, honda giving it 8 years warranty if i'm not wrong...

fuel saving wise, some people says it helps, some says it doesn't....i think it depends on how you drive...

Best if you could test drive both. Unfortunately, jazz petrol no test drive unit. I booked my wife's car with faith that it's a good drive. So far, am not wrong. Didn't test drive jazz hybrid coz like I mentioned before, few things turned me off:
1. Air con off while stuck in jam
2. No rear disc brake
3. Hybrid cars seems to depreciate more. Look at insight. It's now rm70k plus. My friend bought 1 unit last year and disposed of it recently. Lost of rm20k in 1 year.

Anyway, this is just my opinion.

Cheers!

Based on how much petrol? Rm 60?

As long as there is still 10k+ disc + 3yr free serv... waiting 2mth not an big issue i think...
even some part may fails someday later due to wear n tear, in 5 years u would hav sufficient spare part from chop shop for that i guess...
FC is all about drivers, it helps if you make good use of it...no use if u treat it as like an electronic version of turbo and drive like ah beng...

the (1) is it even on normal mode, or jz eco mode? (3) this is for longer period of ownership, so depreciation is not in concern much here...n (2) also out of concern...(1) can be a problem...albeit not for me...lol

the aircond compressor thing is automatically in effect as long as your are in D-mode... if you are in S or neutral... it doesn't kick in if i am not wrong...

as for the depreciation... that is due to the pricing kept on lowering with the introduction from CBU japan to CBU Thai to CKD local... that is why the car depreciated fast as far as i understand...

K. I've installed the buzzer + side mirror auto fold. Not bad!

On FC record, I'm still on my 1st tank after 1 week!!!! Haha... My wife seldom use the car since she only travel 5-7kms per day!

you can select to turn of Engine Auto Start/Stop, and therefore the aircond will not off. I know its a shame/waste to turn off an Eco feature but, just so you know, it can be turned off. But i imagine if jam in early morning then no problem since the surrounding temp still cool

How much left in your tank now? And how much your mileage with the tank so far?

Not too sure coz my wife use the car. I think it's about 250km dy and the range shows 300km - half tank. This is good for me coz my wife only uses this car for really short distance. So, FC should be quite high on normal cars. Will update when I refuel next round.

if you mean the eco button... i remember it doesn't turn off the engine start stop function...

it just makes the brake regenerative function less aggressive and make the idling time longer before it cuts out the engine...

i remember i read somewhere in the owner's manual during the short brief time that i 'own' a jazz hybrid... i think the engine has to be off, and there's some input, like press the ECON for 5 sec or something.. don't remember.

but i never tried it la.

Thumbs up for the design, jazz design always ok for me especially the 04 05 model compare to the very recent one. the latest design I not sure which one, but should be bettering since u guys seyz so.

but I cant imagine the aircon turns itself off in eco mode in jam...

I'm the kind of guy who use aircon is warmest temp and lowest fan level...sometime i get in my car, aircon is often the lastting i remember to switch on till my passenger beh tahan n on it themselves but in hot days, realy need to on the aircon first Lol...

all that said, i think a/c off feature is damn @#$%

Jazz auto stop can be disabled by shifting into S gear

Honda SA Ipoh branch told me minimum need to wait 3 month for this car if take now. Was hoping to choose Jazz as my 1st car but no choice need to look into other brand.

3 months for jazz petrol or hybrid?

I hope to get jazz CKD also, can anyone share with their FC with full tanked?

My full tank is rm31l for 360kms. That translate to 11.6km/l. Bear in mind that this is used for approx 9 days on short trips. Will need to monitor since this is the first tank and the car is still new.

U booked yours dy?

RM31 for 360km?

Whoops... No rm in front... 31l for 360kms!

Didn't I say, you wont get the 670 km shown on your MID, lol.. anyhow, 31L for is not rreally good.. Keep us updated on your next FC... It should improve...

I believe possible la bro. Just that it's for highway use!

31L 360km is veerrryy bad

any comment on the back seat?

Back seat is surprisingly spacious. It's more spacious than myvi SE. Comparable to sedan cars.

back seat of jazzP can be slightly reclined, (u can find this feature in 1st gen myvi).

surprisingly, this is why i chose jazzP over vios2013.
well not fair comparison eh?
i dun really need space & my priority is comfortable back seat.

also, please check the telescopic steering column, u can adjust the reach of the steering wheel to ur liking.

I went to honda dealer to test drive Jazz Petrol but they say only have Hybrid version. Tested the hybrid it was ok and silent and smooth.

So the SA let me test City to test the engine since jazz and city share the same engine. I found the engine noise to be much louder than the Hybrid version.

Any idea if the Jazz Petrol radio/cd sound system is ok? Does it sound cheap?

Yes, there are no test drive unit for Jazz P. So, you need to "agak agak" with City. I also found that the engine noise is a tad louder but it might be new, so cannot do a fair comparison. I'm comparing this with other 1.5l petrol engines. Of course if you compare with hybrid, it would be louder coz hybrid uses the electric motor when low speed or stationary.

The sound system on Jazz P is great, in my opinion. Good balance of bass and treble.

peringgit motor jln klang lama only jazzhyb for test drive.
& i can live with the noise of jazzhyb +- like 1stgen myvi.

hopefully jazzpet doesn't vary much with jazzhyb.

You tested jazz petrol before?

Reason is because the engine is much nearer to the cabin in the jazz compared to city. So i believe jazz will be even noisier if compared to city. Above 3k rpm in the honda city i already find the engine to be buzzy. God knows how it will be when vtec kicked in the jazz

still deciding between going for better design(jazz) or going for better driving experience(almera/vios/polosedan)

nope, no TD jazzpet since no unit available.

valid reasoning. that's why i hope it would as quiet as myvi.
my expectation isn't big.

i only interested in polosedan, for better driving. i'm haven't td polosedan yet.
but if u r going for a sedan, try preve cfe. it's surprisingly quiter than jazzpet.
& if hiway travel is my concern, preve cfe anytime..or perhaps suprima s.

maybe later...haha

preve not so fuel economically because i'm doing 80% city all the time

When I rev my JH above 4k rpm, I feel like I am driving aeroplane, cos of the noise.. I think the vtec already kicks in.. But no doubt it is very smooth..

This post has been edited by nova_freak: Nov 25 2013, 03:56 PM

it's harder by comparison to other honda models due to the ultraseats...

actually... i trust the sound is actually more of the exhaust noise than the engine from the L15a unit...

it's no bang & olufsen on a merc, that's for sure... but it does a decent job for most people...

it's all based on your expectations...

dun set your expectations too high... the L15A is a single cam vtec with no cam lift... just variable valve timing if i am not wrong...

it just sounds louder than what you hear @ 3k revs...

apart from the looks for the current GE8... the plus point for me other than it being more feminine (jus jokin )... it is actually more flexible with the ultraseats.. people who have driven myvi and kenari's before this will understand it... it can ferry things no almera, jazz or even a camry or accord can carry...

i agree.

also agree

I've tested the Honda Jazz Hybird, and it was beyond my expectation in performance and handling section.

Maybe you want to consider that since petrol price will keep increase in near future

the cabin quitness of JazzPet is on par with myvi.

meet my expectation

My loan has been approved. 2.57%.
Probably could get the car by December 2013.
I choose petrol instead of hybrid because
1) I believe the current Jazz's hybrid is not there yet. Have a Prius in the house.
2) Easier maintenance after 3 years warranty is over. The mechanic outside knows petrol engine.
3) Petrol got more POWARRRRRRR!!!!! on highway.
4) Prefer manual aircond control on Jazz petrol.
5) Fuel consumption not a big deal coz I only drive ~300km a week.

One think I need to think after 3 years, how to change the ICE?

only on par???

it's actually much more muted than the myvi... from the closing of the door.. you already know the jazz passenger cabin will be quieter because the doors are much heavier to close and closes with a much more solid sound rather than a more metal against metal sound on a myvi...

that being said, it's not really that quiet if you have high expectations but being a 75k ringgit car, i don't think one should be complaining that much...

if you are aiming for a top of the line myvi... it's a worthy investment to consider forking out more for the jazz petrol since it's roughly 20k extra on top of the 1.5se and there is a better chance of resale value some time down the road...

the jazz hybrid is not a full hybrid car... .so, can't really compare to the prius... it doesn't even have EV mode... it is only offering energy recovery and power assistance...but on the other hand... you know that the cycle on the battery charge and discharge is not as heavy as a full hybrid car hence the possibility of a replacement is not as soon as well...

actually the hybrid feels quite OK trundling around the city... on highway, i guess the petrol is better but not by a mile...

good luck with that... you need a panel replacement to fit a single or dual din player into the car... a bit of hassle to do so... and there is possibility of gaps after your player goes in...

http://www.lelong.com.my/honda-fit-jazz-20...3-12-Sale-P.htm
not sure if this is the same one for the current GE8 that malaysia is selling... looks slightly different... but accessory shops should have them...

how long and how much is your loan?

Loan 45k, 7 years.

no offense my fren

my wive had just traded her pre-loved myvi mk1 premium ver for this JazzPet.
this is my opinion of 1day owning the car

if cabin quiteness, preve cfe wins!

(cabin quiteness at +- 90km/h for both JazzPet & CFE)

but your preve got rattling round inside or not ?

Read at Preve thread, it seem all the car with rattling sound ?

ah.. i dun have any preve. that was the shorum unit.

i've testdriven preve turbo after i testdrove JazzHyb.
my wife & I were amazed with the quiteness & effortless cfe was.

rattling sound in preve? i dun know.
i still reading in their forum, here, but it seems that they managed to solve it.

frankly speaking, if the fit&finish of preve was made better, it would be my pick.
wait n see lah...hehehe

Yes, I intend to buy preve but after following the Preve thread for past few months, I see so many complaining of rattling sound here and there.

Recently got one share that after he complain to SC, the SC ask him to sit in another preve and it is the same problem. Meaning seem like standard rattling sound.

i mean you have to look at it from a totality point of view...

in terms of NVH short and long term as you said it's a showroom unit.... resale value after x amount of years and whether do you really need the power you gain from the preve...

To tell you the truth, preve would be a better choice than jazz petrol. Simply being it's loaded with accessories and the ride is good. The only thing is the name - Proton!

oic.

i've testdriven testdrive unit preve cfe & testdrive unit jazzhyb.
both are testdrive units.
that is that. nothing more, nothing less.

i dun even know how jazzpet will perform over the years. not testdrive unit at that time.

& i highlighted my concern, while u may have ur concern also.

i really love the torque, the linear power delivery of that cfe.
have u, honestly, testdriven a cfe?

fyi, we bought a jazzpet since we only travel around the KL.

you wan total quietness you have to pay (more) la

don't misunderstand my stance here.

i have nothing against proton. i love the R&H of latest proton.

unfortunately, i'm not to keen in electronic/gadgets.

as for preve, when the time is right, i might buy 1 for long distance travel.

ps: i always swap my previous car wif my mom's gen2 for long travel.

hmm.. I don't get it. Why Jazz cannot be used for long distance travel? To me, I feel Jazz or Preve, both are good for long distance travel.

Preve only advantage is the boot size. If a family travels with less things, then Jazz also ok what...

i didn't say that jazz can't do long distance travel.
of coz jazz can. myvi can, kancil also can.

it's the level of comfiness or "selesa".

bigger car (class wise) provide more comfort.
preve is one class with altis/civic.
jazz is up-saga class. (well with the introduction of honda brio /saga/viva class)

ya bro. I know all can do long distance and I know you meant comfortness, but to me jazz also comfort as preve/altis/civic (c class segment) what. No meh?

it's subjective then.

there is no all-around car.

for me, as long as it can serve me as it should, it's worthy

i driven before both... the CFE was a journalist unit when it was a couple months after they launched it... so, it is what i should say quite well used... i for sure certainly didn't take care of it when i was driving.. so, you get the idea...

power wise is a very subjective thing... if you really need that amount of power delivery out of the car... then preve seems a better bet... but on paper, it doesn't seem much since it is only less than 20 horses more with 20kgm on tap and it is heavier than the jazz to begin with...

i am not saying the preve is not good... it is worthy from the perspective that it is a segment c sedan and it is priced lower than a jazz even after it was CKD'ed...

so, it's at the end of the day a question of what you prefer between both cars... one might look nice, one might be more powerful, one might be comfier, one might have more flexible room in the car...it's a question of balancing what you want as both might have a certain something that you fancy but for sure no one will find everything they want in one car...

actually the jazz also has quite ample space for things as there is no boot lid to prevent luggage storing... and if car is not fully loaded with people.. the ultra seats can be folded down to store more luggage... it might not be what most people want.... but it is a good thing to have sometimes...

going shopping for huge and bulky items is usually more easier with the jazz as the preve might find it harder to stuff chunky things into the boot...

comfort wise... i think the preve wins because the jazz ultraseats are never as comfortable...

dun feel it on short trips.. but definitely noticeable on longer ones...

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 29 2013, 05:29 PM

yup bro. it was a tough decision to make.

any different between this ckd n cbu version?

which CBU and version?

very obviously, the price... more parts on the car being localized (almost 40% according to honda) compared to the thai imports, lost 16 inch wheels, slightly different look compared to thai cbu grade v (face-lifted version)... and if you compared with the original ge8 (non face-lifted) grade v, then you lose even more things like audio control, paddle shift (but that's 100k easily)

it's practically the same car as the thai imported grade s that was sold for over 90k not long before the launch of the ckd jazz hybrid...

for a comparison, order in chronological of introduction....

Jazz Grade V and S (second gen, original GE8)

Jazz Grade V (face-lift)

Jazz Grade S (face-lift)

Jazz Petrol CKD

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 30 2013, 07:38 AM

thanks..the quality same?fitting,noise,etc.

I'm considering to buy Jazz hybrid.

However, is it true that hybrid cars resale value is low? Because you have to change the battery every 10 years and the hybrid car battery cost RM10,000+. So second hand buyers will be put off when they realized they need to change the battery in a few more years.

Car milage <1000km, not yet 1st service.
I travelled from KL to Mersing via Plus.

FC Report

Maintaining most of the time @90km/h, @2k rpm.
Average FC as shown on meter is 17.0 km/l, or 5.9l/100km.
from Plus Seremban petronas to Mersing, a little bit of 1/2tank.

R&H

Good control at ayer hitam-kluang-nitar road, I would rate it slightly below gen2.
But good power delivery above gen2 1.6 campro vanilla HL.

Space

Noticebly more spacious than myvi 1st gen & more comfort.

Congrats on your purchase. When did u collect your car? What color?

This is your solution ~~~~
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Thanks

It's my wife's car.

On thursday 28/11, Taffeta white.