Yeah. Those would make up for a good headline. But if you bring such a headline, do you think you'll still get ads? Nope sir.

You can see sites as Paultan... the only place where they would actually criticize a car during a review is when another car is being reviewed. Say they review a Golf... then in that review they'd say it is a bit better than an Altis. In an Altis review it'd be better than a Golf. Car journalists are a bit useless, sadly, because most of them do want to get those nice all expenses paid trips to Europe, America, ...

The new Mazdas shouldn't be related to Ford anymore, right?

2013 myvi will be safer unless its a 2000 volvo
then size and weight will matter

I think not all hope are lost though. With launching of Proton Suprima S ( I still can't get over the naming of the model---first it is preve that my spell check with always prompt pervert , then a Suprima that looks like subprime) any way as I was saying , with Suprima ad on radio/ main media kept emphasising on its 5 star ANCAP score, with one radio ad featuring a guy thanking Proton about 'teaching' him the idea of NCAP, so I see that as good sign. So don't get discouraged, road safety warrior, soldier on!

Sky activ' Mazda 6 and CX5 is not but the current out going Mazda 2 and 3 on Msian soil is very much based on fords

Fiesta & Mazda 2




Focus & Mazda 3


This post has been edited by EnergyAnalyst: Aug 20 2013, 10:21 AM

whats the difference?which one better

Anything except a Camry!

The VW, Ford, Peugeot and K5 all have good safety ratings. The 2013 Optima K5 obtained higher frontal crash ratings by the NHTSA than even the mighty 2014 BMW 528i although both got the overall 5 star rating.

On the IIHS test results, the 2013 Optima K5 is currently among only 25 vehicles worldwide who have received the Top Safety Pick (+) rating which even the Audi A6, BMW 5 Series and Mercedes E Class failed to get. The other Korean car which was rated Top Safety Pic (+) was the 2013 Hyundai Elantra.

http://www.iihs.org/ratings/tsp_current.aspx

anything but korean car. i even willing to take preve

Well, they have mouths to feed. And in this country, pissing off manufacturers means losing advertising revenue.

Actually, when Paul Tan's site talked about the new Camry last year, they didn't have anything bad to say about the car. But immediately came out with an article about the importance of VSC, that is an indirectly effort on their part to criticize the Camry's lack of VSC and TRC. Too bad, they didn't talk about the lack of airbags in comparison to some of its other rivals though and the price of the car. But this isn't just limited to them alone, all other car motoring sites are the same.

If it was a review overseas, you can expect the same Camry to be bashed beyond redemption.

New Mazdas are completely separated from Ford now. Skyactiv is the buzzword now

Our Korean Apple polisher cybermasyer forgot mentioned Preve too earn 5 stars in ANCAP.

This post has been edited by jolokia: Aug 20 2013, 09:56 AM

lol.

which camry lack vsc n trc?

All XV50 models before this year May didn't have it. Then again, it also cost RM1015.30 more... those early adopters got the shaft because the G spec models also now sports it also adds keyless entry and start.

http://paultan.org/2013/05/06/toyota-camry...nally-gets-vsc/

Way to rip your customers a new one Toyota.

This post has been edited by zweimmk: Aug 20 2013, 12:19 PM

Nah. They do the same overseas. Everyone has mouths to feed.

ESP/VSC is more important than airbags, cause it can help avoid accidents. If you don't have an accident you don't need airbags.

As for overseas reviews ripping apart the Camry... yes, that would probably happen cause the specs are so ridiculously bad... there's no way reviewers can avoid being ridiculed and marked with a bad reputation if they don't bash the car for that.

The problem is manufacturers overseas are afraid of bad reviews and there are some very credible sites such as Consumer Reports that a lot of people go to and they don't get pushed around. Even if you look at the Internet penetration rates, most Western markets are more saturated as compared to Malaysia, the more savvy people are still concentrated around the city areas.

Over here, it's the opposite.

I suppose it also has to do with the people being less bothered by how safe the car is as long as it is reliable. On top of that, you have a government that really hasn't done its part in educating the public about road safety, it all contributes to the heck care attitude..

try look as subaru cars ~ is the 1car manufacture was creat the crash test by them self ~

What are you trying to say?

Many car makers have their own crash test facilities. Volvo has, Renault has (2006 they celebrated their 10000th crash), Mercedes has, Toyota has (a few), ... I suppose all major car makers have.

I recently saw this:
http://www.20min.ch/schweiz/basel/story/Un...eihung-21734569

What happened basically was that a woman was driving, her husband suddenly was unconscious, green in the face, tongue hanging out, and she tried to revive him, tried to help him breathe again by showing him. She couldn't stop at the road side thanks to construction works, and then entered a tunnel. Her heavy breathing led to her getting unconscious, and she crashed into a car coming the other way in the tunnel. She got rescued out of her car, then ran towards the car she crashed into. The driver of the other car died.

A judge found it wasn't her fault. Clearly not the other cars fault either.

As far as I can recognize the cars involved are a 2002 Renault Megane and a 2002 Citroen C3.

http://www.euroncap.com/tests/renault_megane_2002/146.aspx
http://www.euroncap.com/tests/citroen_c3_2002/133.aspx

5 stars vs 4 stars, and C segment vs B segment. The Citroen clearly was at a disadvantage, and the results show. Keep in mind that both cars are not too bad. But the safer car won. Especially for small cars a good safety rating is important, because they are at a disadvantage already when the rating is the same.

Safety first...above all else. Great constant reminders.

So, what's this safest car for the not so rich? On paper I m seeing Picanto, iriz, rio, jazz, city (both v spec).. In terms of increasing price.. Any other?

Anyone knows why kia and Honda cars are listed in jpj exception list even though they check all the boxes on paper?

You mean the R94/R95? That was when most manufacture sell their car with less strength steel for ASEAN market. Because there is no body regulate or conduct any assessment for frontal impact.

Even though the R94/R95 was gazetted, many automakers are not ready. Not sure if it is still apply or not but it think it is. We still can see 3 star rating car sell here. R94/R95 at least 4 star AOP point.

Asean NCAP will encourage automakers start to make their cars complied with those. Consumers start comparing these result.