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post Jul 25 2013, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Jul 25 2013, 11:45 AM)
Kia Forte 2.0..
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Jul 25 2013, 01:09 PM)
I see. Thanks
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Just bare in mind that Forte 2.0 is not a 5 star. The A pillar bent on frontal collision.
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post Jul 25 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jul 25 2013, 02:54 PM)
VIos is B-segment smaller but still safe.

Try the ViosTRD, I read in FnF that its a C-Segment car, hence bigger and much safer.
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Without ESP, vios probably only achieve 3 star rating.
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post Jul 25 2013, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(nagflar @ Jul 25 2013, 04:33 PM)
JPJ msia should create the law . every new car must be equip by atleast 2 air bag , abs etc safety feature . I guess msian wont mind pay extra few k to save thier family life .
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There is. But it was put on hold because of cars manufacturer are not willing/or not ready.

But Proton EDAR urged the government to withdraw this exemption and enforce the rule. So, it shows that Proton cars are more comply than import cars for malaysian specs.

Some of the car listed in JPJ which been given exemption, but not comply with UN R94 and UN R95.

http://www.jpj.gov.my/c/document_library/g...5&groupId=10157

http://arminbaniaz.com/2013/02/peda-called...thdraw-all.html

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post Jul 25 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2013, 04:52 PM)
Kinda ironic, since Proton is one of the few carmakers in the M'sia market that still sells single airbag cars (alongside Suzuki and Nissan)
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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 25 2013, 04:55 PM)
Saga SV got 2 airbags, no?
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SV 2 airbags but there is one variant of Saga (executive i think) with driver's airbag only.
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post Jul 25 2013, 04:59 PM

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Proton GSC will follow strict latest Euro NCAP requirement. brows.gif
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post Jul 25 2013, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 25 2013, 05:04 PM)
Let's hope it is not another 5-star safety, 1-star quality like how Preve did in Australia  doh.gif
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laugh.gif 2 star quality la.

Btw, the car that caradvice received was horrible. The dash was not fitted properly. It is still proton fault for not giving them the good car.
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post Jan 24 2015, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Jan 24 2015, 11:26 AM)
So, what's this safest car for the not so rich? On paper I m seeing Picanto, iriz, rio, jazz, city (both v spec).. In terms of increasing price.. Any other?

Anyone knows why kia and Honda cars are listed in jpj exception list even though they check all the boxes on paper?
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You mean the R94/R95? That was when most manufacture sell their car with less strength steel for ASEAN market. Because there is no body regulate or conduct any assessment for frontal impact.

Even though the R94/R95 was gazetted, many automakers are not ready. Not sure if it is still apply or not but it think it is. We still can see 3 star rating car sell here. R94/R95 at least 4 star AOP point.

Asean NCAP will encourage automakers start to make their cars complied with those. Consumers start comparing these result.
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post Jan 24 2015, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Jan 24 2015, 01:01 PM)
Hmm in that case does it mean if your main concern is safety you shouldn't buy a car that is not Asean ncap tested even though ancap or euro ncap 5 star with full safety feature?

Cause maybe they use low quality steel?

But then asean ncap no test side impact so it's not complete also.. So how?
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Automakers only put what's needed just to score the rating. Since Asean NCAP only test frontal, then they only improved on that. Other things consider 'untested' or 'unrated'.

Asean NCAP to get 4 star, need to have at least 11 points AOP score. Even though no ESP or ABS, still can get that score.
5 star rating must have at least 14 AOP, and ESP is a must. If the care scored 16 in AOP, still 4 star if no ESP. ASEAN NCAP will further improve. They are very new. They do not do side impact test by they provide passed/failed based on the automakers own crash data.

We follow ASEAN NCAP because that's the origin of the car (factory) and the required homologation. Car made in EU will not score the same in AU. Example, In india Polo can score 0 star in GNCAP, despite full score for Euro NCAP.

The passo/boon have better jncap rating compare the the pre-fl myvi.

This how automakers cut corners. Not only steel, but safety equipment level too.

This post has been edited by ruffstuff: Jan 24 2015, 02:23 PM
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post Jan 24 2015, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(lin00b @ Jan 24 2015, 09:27 PM)
where can i get more info on what AOP are tested? the result posted on Asean NCAP website is too brief compared to what was posted in ANCAP an Euro NCAP
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AOP = Adult occupant protection.

Can get it at Asean NCAP web.

 

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