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zweimmk
post Aug 19 2013, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 19 2013, 09:19 AM)
i cut and pasted here

Why do we need another NCAP in ASEAN since most cars are tested in other NCAP programs around the world?
Since safety standards may vary in different parts of the world, there is a need to evaluate cars’ occupant protection based on NCAP requirement in the region. Though a car model had been evaluated in other NCAP program in the world and scored a good rating, it will not necessarily mean that the car will perform as good in ASEAN NCAP due to the manufacturing origin and quality. Some car models are developed with minimum safety specifications for certain market due to less demand on best safety performance.

and the UNECE R94 vs Asean NCAP frontal collision test also has a bit of difference, also from FAQ
One can't help but wonder how many corners all these manufacturers cut to sell their cars here, especially all the locally manufactured CKD cars.
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(EnergyAnalyst @ Aug 19 2013, 11:39 AM)
hey latest small lap test a week ago from U.S. of A.

http://www.livelifedrive.com/malaysia/news...ntal-crash-test

The small overlap crash test is a classic example of how different/more stringent requirement can yield what is good and what is not.

Take Kia Cerato as example

rated as poor just less than 2 weeks ago in USA, it is praised by ANCAP TODAY

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/AK1308/S005...-crash-test.htm
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Odd, if this is the same US accord that scored 5 stars in the IIHS test, why did it perform worse in the ANCAP?
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post Aug 19 2013, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Aug 19 2013, 12:37 PM)
Slightly different testing conditions, different rating. I think the photo can tell us quite a bit if the car is made the same way. The difference is often how the results are interpreted.

I wish EuroNCAP would update their old test results to also show what the current rating would be. As far as I understand with the exception of a few added tests (ESP and whiplash) the tests are the same.

End of this month there should be the next batch of ASEAN NCAP results...
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So the question now is, which of all NCAPs, is the strictest?
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post Aug 20 2013, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Aug 19 2013, 06:05 PM)
Yeah. Those would make up for a good headline. But if you bring such a headline, do you think you'll still get ads? Nope sir.

You can see sites as Paultan... the only place where they would actually criticize a car during a review is when another car is being reviewed. Say they review a Golf... then in that review they'd say it is a bit better than an Altis. In an Altis review it'd be better than a Golf. laugh.gif Car journalists are a bit useless, sadly, because most of them do want to get those nice all expenses paid trips to Europe, America, ...

The new Mazdas shouldn't be related to Ford anymore, right?
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Well, they have mouths to feed. And in this country, pissing off manufacturers means losing advertising revenue.

Actually, when Paul Tan's site talked about the new Camry last year, they didn't have anything bad to say about the car. But immediately came out with an article about the importance of VSC, that is an indirectly effort on their part to criticize the Camry's lack of VSC and TRC. Too bad, they didn't talk about the lack of airbags in comparison to some of its other rivals though and the price of the car. But this isn't just limited to them alone, all other car motoring sites are the same.

If it was a review overseas, you can expect the same Camry to be bashed beyond redemption.
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post Aug 20 2013, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(izutaisa @ Aug 20 2013, 10:10 AM)
which camry lack vsc n trc?
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All XV50 models before this year May didn't have it. Then again, it also cost RM1015.30 more... those early adopters got the shaft because the G spec models also now sports it also adds keyless entry and start.

http://paultan.org/2013/05/06/toyota-camry...nally-gets-vsc/

Way to rip your customers a new one Toyota.

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post Aug 20 2013, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Aug 20 2013, 05:14 PM)
Nah. They do the same overseas. Everyone has mouths to feed.

ESP/VSC is more important than airbags, cause it can help avoid accidents. If you don't have an accident you don't need airbags. smile.gif

As for overseas reviews ripping apart the Camry... yes, that would probably happen cause the specs are so ridiculously bad... there's no way reviewers can avoid being ridiculed and marked with a bad reputation if they don't bash the car for that.
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The problem is manufacturers overseas are afraid of bad reviews and there are some very credible sites such as Consumer Reports that a lot of people go to and they don't get pushed around. Even if you look at the Internet penetration rates, most Western markets are more saturated as compared to Malaysia, the more savvy people are still concentrated around the city areas.

Over here, it's the opposite.

I suppose it also has to do with the people being less bothered by how safe the car is as long as it is reliable. On top of that, you have a government that really hasn't done its part in educating the public about road safety, it all contributes to the heck care attitude..

 

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