QUOTE(simon3041 @ Aug 9 2013, 03:31 PM)
Greeting all beloved satria owners~... i am a newbie and might be joining this club soon.. gonna ask for idea and experiences from all of u... thanks
I am kinda interested with the look of satria neo and the two door version. so yeah, i went for deep research on the online reviews, reading thru neo car clubs, pro and cons.. I am not tall, so the comfort is a no problem for me, and the i love two doors too. (have project for scissor door even though i know the two door is really heavy and heavier than the sedan 4 door but i am likey to see the scissors in neo, i noticed the hydraulic might not tahan, but then sigh, i hope there's solution for tat...) I am uni student by the way, but capable for downpayment of 2nd hand neo cps and the loan monthly and some heavy mod...
But then i am very concerned abt the
performance of the neo cps...
1. After a few days of researching, i found out tat most of em claimed tat (M) cps neo got
jerking problem. can the problem be solved?
2. is it the
auto neo cps loss much power due to the torque converter? of course i am into 3 pedals, but yeah, juz asking if i found a cheap auto 2nd hand neo cps... sigh.. i might but hope i dont, go for an auto if i found a cheap one? sigh... then save those money for mod...
3. I have requested reviews from my frens who are driving neo cps. and most of em are telling me tat the car is much underpowered although after 4.5k rpm.. sigh.. being honest,I am a freak who like speed, (more acceleration than top speed), love tigh corners, and challenging some random dudes on the road... So actually my question is this
neo cps engine is tat bad like they said? and the low- mid range power is okay rite? (i do noticed some of the cps engine like waja engage earlier.)
(drove 4age silver top 20V - Love the kicks, ZC engine sohc in integra 89, love the speed although it's a heavy car, 4g15 carb, nice but worry abt maintainance hassel... and my favourite k3vet in myvi, lol nothin much to say, powerful, but then auto/tiptronic) sigh...
I wanna something tat got potential when i dump in 5-10k of money to mod...
P/s : I don't like fart can, but love to have the
exhaust swapped for a bassy loud and sweet downpipe and exhaust,
any idea the cps engine can give me tat desired sound?
4. with lightened crank pulley, adjustable cam pully, highcam, aerospeed plug cables, iridium plugs, 4-2-1, and complete downpipe ( i think cost me around 8k?)
is it worth for this?or go for
strengthen the engine plus BOT? and cps engine
tahan mar for BOT? 
say if and only if i can find a guy who know and capable of doing campro bolt on in kuching area... (considering i change to forged pistons, new crank , fuel regulator, some better fuel injector and the unique piggy for the neo cps after turbocharged cause my fren told me the VDO prob which cant match with e-manage or any other ecu..) but i do notice that compression for this engine is kinda high... sigh)
5. yeah
i am hunger for power in this satria neo outlook,i understand bot might be more risky as i think n
eo cps will be fragile and more hassel than swapping in 4g92 mivec and 4g93t? though 4g63T is illegal. I juz wan it to be fast in neo... but of course better if can retain the cps engine.
6. heard the
handling is good in stock, but if looking forward for more, any idea? suspension wise... and the 16" rim will it be too
heavy for the accelaration?
Oh yar, this car will be my weekend car since i have a daily ride... I don't mind going workshop everyday as long as it's woth it.. though i used to skip all the classes and go to workshop and have my daily ride modded.. LOL...
Thanks for y'all for reading it and your time.. Selamat hari raya to those who celeberating raya~ ^^
P/S : 2nd hand neo cps will be enough for me and i am okay with NA, not a must to go for FI... Juz asking for details for the BOT cps engine, if a lot hassel, i will not go for tat of course =)Got a Neo CPS Auto with BOT here so I will answer a few of your questions based on what I have experienced so far. Yeah, I know people will say Auto is no good and etc etc. I agree up to a level but please bear in mind, my Neo is a work in progress, which means it will be upgraded as I use it in the future.
1) Don't know about that, so I'll leave that to manual owners to answer.
2) Standard Auto is of course, underpowered compared to manual. I have been in my friends' Neo CPS manual. The manual version does accelerate a bit better.
3) I believe CPS engine is designed to be revved high. It will become much more alive after 4400rpm. Changing your exhaust will make your Neo sound nastier
4) I started with small upgrades such as those listed and then I decided to go BOT after much advise. I did it in KK. Total damage is around rm9k. I didn't change anything inside the engine including the piston because I specifically ask the mechanic to boost low. My boost is just at 0.4bar but that's enough for my usage. My aim is to have higher torque, not top speed because I travel a lot going up and down the Crocker range roads. The stock CPS is really useless going up the mountains, I tell you. Always got tapau'ed by a lot of bigger cars and 4WDs. After BOT, well the situation is reversed
These are some of the upgrades done for the BOT:
Turbo header Campro CPS 4x1
Stainless steel piping kit with hose and clamp
Apexi delta fin intercooler HYBRID
Turbo rhf4 ball bearing
HKS SSQV 4 blowoff valve
Turbosmart wastegate 38mm
Original K&N air filter 3 inch
Hayden USA trasnmisssion oil cooler
Nozzle 550cc -injector change
Works Fuel regulator stage 1 w/ oil meter
Works Fuel Rail 10mm
E-MANAGE system w/ install
Velocity Intake CAMPRO
HKS Fully Synthetic Racing Oil
HKS oil filter Racing
Sard Thermal Wrap with Cable tie
Exhaust Change Steel
Piping throttle adjustment
Fuel rail adjustment
Brided hose inlet turbo
Fiiting intake copper
Hose elbow 2"-2.5"
OBD check at GREEDSPEED
Oil cooler hose samco
Sensor exhaust and Map change
Proton engine check and clear code
Gearbox flush and change oil 6 litre
Downpipe wastegate
The mechanic did indeed have some troubles with the e-manage but somehow he solved the problem. My 2nd time tuning (at another performance garage in KK, sent by the mechanic) has made the car much more powerful and smoother gear change plus better FC (before tuning: 300km full tank. After tuning: 350km+ full tank).
5) Change the engine if you think it's worth it. Some people want me to change the engine instead of doing BOT. This is just an experiment for me so, I just use the CPS engine until it dies then I'll change to something else. Last time I dyno, the car produces 176whp, so I think that's alright. The thing is, I have done more than 25,000km after BOT and it doesn't give me any major problem at all. This car has been to Kuching twice from Sabah and it's gone almost every week up and down the Crocker range when I go to KK from Tenom. I love it. You will be surprised but the engine is reliable and send to service when it's time to. I guess I can attribute it to the mechanic. If there's any problem, I will ask my mechanic first.
6) Invest in stabilizer bars. They are not that expensive and it's worth it. Got a few of them in front, at the back and inside the fender (that triangle thingy?) with 205/50/16 Yokohama tyres. Man, that car can take corners at high speed and without having any tail wiggling. Correct me if I'm wrong, smaller rims means they are lighter, so better acceleration. The main reason I don't go for 17" is because of the rough roads in Sabah here. I think Sarawak is much worse.
That's my opinion. Appreciate any feedback from the sifus here. Selamat hari raya aidilfitri
Jul 21 2013, 12:31 PM, updated 11y ago
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