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[WTA]Fiesta vs 208 vs Inspira vs Prius C, <RM90k car for Single late 20s male
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botack
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Jul 15 2013, 11:47 PM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 11:32 PM) Yes, sway bar is anti-roll bar. Even the cheap aftermarket thingy bought from kaki motor or brothers is also called anti-roll bar that is real light and fit to Wira suspension. Avoid using the word anti-roll bar or sway bar seems it led to confusion to many. Just call the bone like bar in the rear METAL BAR for the time being. How many of you really remove the entire rear suspension set and try to lift with hands for real? By the way, despite so many disagreement, how come none ever mention where did the 50kg extra weight in Lancer GT come from? Inspira & Lancer GL are actually at the same weight at 1335kg while Lancer GT at 1385kg. Back then people said its the bodykit which is incorrect. Then they relook to the chassis, they don't find anything different between GT & GL. Exhaust pipe, resonator, catalytic convertor and manifold also not that heavy. Where else? I guess, for a start, the Lancer GT rims is 11kg where as the inspira stock rims is 9.8kg..the anti roll bar is only around less than 10kg for lancer 20mm..the bodykits of inspira and lancer GT is not that much of difference at all, so I would say a difference between 5-10kg? That is the only thing that I could think of. For your info bro, Lancer GL chasis is different from inspira..inspira chasis code is CY4A same as lancer GT. Lancer GL's chasis code is CP9A which has the same chasis code as evo 6. Oh ya, my cousin owns a lancer GT and based on the lancer's forum..it is confirm that inspira is lancer GT but with a proton badge on it.
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ngjx
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Jul 15 2013, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 15 2013, 11:39 PM) you can weight the smell? yes.. gt have better quality smell ma.. so heavier lor.. inspila 1 like tin losong... so lighter lor...
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ckk125
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Jul 15 2013, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(edison1437 @ Jul 15 2013, 11:39 PM) you can weight the smell? my professional friend told me can. this is fact, my professional friend told me
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ckk125
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Jul 15 2013, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(botack @ Jul 15 2013, 11:47 PM) I guess, for a start, the Lancer GT rims is 11kg where as the inspira stock rims is 9.8kg..the anti roll bar is only around less than 10kg for lancer 20mm..the bodykits of inspira and lancer GT is not that much of difference at all, so I would say a difference between 5-10kg? That is the only thing that I could think of. For your info bro, Lancer GL chasis is different from inspira..inspira chasis code is CY4A same as lancer GT. Lancer GL's chasis code is CP9A which has the same chasis code as evo 6. Oh ya, my cousin owns a lancer GT and based on the lancer's forum..it is confirm that inspira is lancer GT but with a proton badge on it. your friend is not professional. fact not accepted.
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jnick
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Jul 15 2013, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE(ckk125 @ Jul 15 2013, 11:49 PM) my professional friend told me can. this is fact, my professional friend told me Yes I agree. I got a professional friend told me so! Must be true d!
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Xabi14Alonso
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Jul 15 2013, 11:52 PM
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QUOTE(botack @ Jul 15 2013, 11:47 PM) I guess, for a start, the Lancer GT rims is 11kg where as the inspira stock rims is 9.8kg..the anti roll bar is only around less than 10kg for lancer 20mm..the bodykits of inspira and lancer GT is not that much of difference at all, so I would say a difference between 5-10kg? That is the only thing that I could think of. For your info bro, Lancer GL chasis is different from inspira..inspira chasis code is CY4A same as lancer GT. Lancer GL's chasis code is CP9A which has the same chasis code as evo 6. Oh ya, my cousin owns a lancer GT and based on the lancer's forum..it is confirm that inspira is lancer GT but with a proton badge on it. Your evo x code is what?? Sold d??
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jayraptor
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Jul 15 2013, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE(carrera_gt @ Jul 15 2013, 11:36 PM) So, ur forte is much better than Inspira/Lancer? Itu awak mau kan selama ini? Don't know why you drag Forte into this. The discussion at the moment is about trying to find out the difference between Inspira & Lancer. Metaphorical meaning: If the colour is red, I say red. If the colour is blue, I say blue. If the taste is sour, I say sour. If the taste is sweet, I say sweet. If it is hard, I say hard. If it is soft, I say soft. If it is loud, I say loud. If it is soft (voice), I say soft. People comment based on what the senses detect. So, what is your reason to get mad and personal in the first place if you are not sellman or marketing staff? Refer botack's comment. At least he still replied properly what his guess. How about the rest? Thanks to botack for proper reply. This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 15 2013, 11:59 PM
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edison1437
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Jul 16 2013, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 11:58 PM) Don't know why you drag Forte into this. The discussion at the moment is about trying to find out the difference between Inspira & Lancer. Metaphorical meaning: If the colour is red, I say red. If the colour is blue, I say blue. If the taste is sour, I say sour. If the taste is sweet, I say sweet. If it is hard, I say hard. If it is soft, I say soft. If it is loud, I say loud. If it is soft (voice), I say soft. People comment based on what the senses detect. So, what is your reason to get mad and personal in the first place if you are not sellman or marketing staff? Refer botack's comment. At least he still replied properly what his guess. How about the rest? Thanks to botack for proper reply. botackhe likes you
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WilliamHoo
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Jul 16 2013, 12:04 AM
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Woooohoooo noob-arse Craptor
You are the noob-arse that stated the 'Metal Bar' thingy made up for the 50kg difference, you noob-arse
After making the statement of the so-called noob-arse 50kg 'metal bar' and now you cameback telling you dunno where came the 50kg noob-arse difference
Omg...you noob-arse
Where is alex? Upgraded summore professional alex
you are officially crowned 'Noob-arse JayCraptor'
Ptuiiiiiii
find the answer sendiri, u so high metal bar
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nzh0920
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Jul 16 2013, 12:05 AM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 15 2013, 10:58 PM) You are the dumb here. You wanted facts, I checked with professional and gave the answer from him. Yet you go mad and personal. Can't face the fact still? What else do you need? That is the part that we are debating here and you out of nowhere go and talk about the arm. Aiseh! Talking to people like you have to use downgraded to basic English. Else, you would misinterpret and think aftermarket something else. Do you know what is swaybar? You can go lift the BMW 5-series, Mazda 3/6, Lancer GT rear suspension METAL BAR (try not to use jargon with dumb KIASU like you) then you come and tell me how heavy. You think that Metal BAR so light? The so called lighter Torsion Beam one is not that light neither. Then can you explain where the 50kg come from? The rims and wheels ain't that much big difference from 16" wheels neither. The spoiler? FYI, FF cars that wanted to improve handling, they would distribute more weight to the rear by adding more metal to the back. OK? fck u la, even stock infiniti G37 35mm front sway bar about 14.2lbs,which is about 6.4kg http://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sedan/2249...bar-weight.htmland u fcking tell me that thing weight 50kg! i use 2 fingers lift up that so called 50kg 20mm bar at half cut shop before! This post has been edited by nzh0920: Jul 16 2013, 12:08 AM
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WilliamHoo
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Jul 16 2013, 12:08 AM
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QUOTE(botack @ Jul 15 2013, 11:47 PM) I guess, for a start, the Lancer GT rims is 11kg where as the inspira stock rims is 9.8kg..the anti roll bar is only around less than 10kg for lancer 20mm..the bodykits of inspira and lancer GT is not that much of difference at all, so I would say a difference between 5-10kg? That is the only thing that I could think of. For your info bro, Lancer GL chasis is different from inspira..inspira chasis code is CY4A same as lancer GT. Lancer GL's chasis code is CP9A which has the same chasis code as evo 6. Oh ya, my cousin owns a lancer GT and based on the lancer's forum..it is confirm that inspira is lancer GT but with a proton badge on it. bots no need to tok sense into this fella all info oledi given by K3 still he is langsi reading the brochures Ptuiiiiii beh tahan
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jayraptor
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Jul 16 2013, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(WilliamHoo @ Jul 16 2013, 12:04 AM) Woooohoooo noob-arse Craptor You are the noob-arse that stated the 'Metal Bar' thingy made up for the 50kg difference, you noob-arse After making the statement of the so-called noob-arse 50kg 'metal bar' and now you cameback telling you dunno where came the 50kg noob-arse difference Omg...you noob-arse Where is alex? Upgraded summore professional alex you are officially crowned 'Noob-arse JayCraptor' Ptuiiiiiii find the answer sendiri, u so high metal bar WilliamHoo & nzh0920, Still stay hostile out of personal reason or interest? Minus the foul language, so where do you think the 50kg difference coming from? Chassis? And why MMC wanted to put in the extra weight in the Lancer GT in the first place? You know that weight put Lancer almost as heavy as D-segment. Even if you both are related to P1, you still have to answer as the public would love to hear from you 2. Relatively, people hate ruthless sellman & marketing staff that don't serve public interest. Would like to compare your answer with your technical department answer. You can't answer well, you should let those technical staff take over your place. This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 16 2013, 12:13 AM
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nzh0920
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Jul 16 2013, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 12:12 AM) WilliamHoo & nzh0920, Still stay hostile out of personal reason or interest? Minus the foul language, so where do you think the 50kg difference coming from? Chassis? And why MMC wanted to put in the extra weight in the Lancer GT in the first place? You know that weight put Lancer almost as heavy as D-segment. Even if you both are related to P1, you still have to answer as the public would love to hear from you 2. Relatively, people hate ruthless sellman & marketing staff that don't serve public interest. i fck u because u are fcking dumb. already told u curb weight figures, lancer gt 1360 , inspira 2.0P 1350, yet u claimed got 50kg different. then u telling me that swaybar/anti roll bar weight about 50kg??? have u hold one before??? i even show u how a 35mm arb or metal bar u called it weight about 6.xkg. yet u still telling me tiny 20mm hollow bar weight about 50kg i really salute u , u really champion  because u can make yourself believe the crap first and then crap like that is the fact, if other people dont know about car, they really possible will believe in u. This post has been edited by nzh0920: Jul 16 2013, 12:18 AM
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WilliamHoo
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Jul 16 2013, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 12:12 AM) WilliamHoo & nzh0920, Still stay hostile out of personal reason or interest? Minus the foul language, so where do you think the 50kg difference coming from? Chassis? And why MMC wanted to put in the extra weight in the Lancer GT in the first place? You know that weight put Lancer almost as heavy as D-segment. Even if you both are related to P1, you still have to answer as the public would love to hear from you 2. Relatively, people hate ruthless sellman & marketing staff that don't serve public interest. The journalist Noob-arse JayCraptor with his professional friend Alex is now asking where did the 50kg went. my friend Alex told me it is the 50kg metal bar la U must be a mitsu salesmen yo Phail
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WilliamHoo
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Jul 16 2013, 12:19 AM
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 16 2013, 12:15 AM) i fck u because u are fcking dumb. already told u curb weight figures, lancer gt 1360 , inspira 2.0P 1350, yet u claimed got 50kg different. then u told me that swaybar/anti roll bar weight about 50kg??? have u hold one before??? i even show u how a 35mm arb or metal bar u called it weight about 6.xkg. yet u still telling me tiny 20mm hollow bar weight about 50kg i really salute u , u really champion  because u can make yourself believe the crap first and then crap like that is the fact, if other people dont know about car, they really possible will believe in u.  Explain this before you tai chi it elsewhere, noob-arse JayCraptor hahaha
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ngjx
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Jul 16 2013, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 16 2013, 12:15 AM) i fck u because u are fcking dumb. already told u curb weight figures, lancer gt 1360 , inspira 2.0P 1350, yet u claimed got 50kg different. then u told me that swaybar/anti roll bar weight about 50kg??? have u hold one before??? i even show u how a 35mm arb or metal bar u called it weight about 6.xkg. yet u still telling me tiny 20mm hollow bar weight about 50kg i really salute u , u really champion  because u can make yourself believe the crap first and then crap like that is the fact, if other people dont know about car, they really possible will believe in u.  his professional source told him is 50kg difference ok! PROFESSIONAL!! ada paham?? PROFESSIONAL! what r u?? just a p1 ruthless salesman....
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stewPik
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Jul 16 2013, 12:25 AM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 16 2013, 12:12 AM) WilliamHoo & nzh0920, Still stay hostile out of personal reason or interest? Minus the foul language, so where do you think the 50kg difference coming from? Chassis? And why MMC wanted to put in the extra weight in the Lancer GT in the first place? You know that weight put Lancer almost as heavy as D-segment. Even if you both are related to P1, you still have to answer as the public would love to hear from you 2. Relatively, people hate ruthless sellman & marketing staff that don't serve public interest. Would like to compare your answer with your technical department answer. You can't answer well, you should let those technical staff take over your place. Afterreading the thread for awhile almost all in here is being neutral.....personal attack on u...yes, cuz it seems u can't accept criticism from others, nobody said lander gt and inspira is the exact same car, we only stated that almost all of the parts is imported from Japan but assembled locally, besides the absorbers that is design n made by proton. We are claiming that inspira is no where inferior to Lancet gt, bsides the 2 is tune differently on handling. It seems u r the one trying to prove that inspira is a cheap knock off or worst quality/performance than Lancet gt. Which I believe strongly that u r very wrong. When ask u for ur facts to back up ur statement n believes, u r only giving nonsense and hear says or believe while k3nny actually gave u hard facts n proofs with specs sheets, parts number n photos which u still refuse to accept n believe, so tell me who is being the child here? So let me repeat my question, on what basis do u claim that inspira is a weaker/worst car compared to the Lancet gt? This post has been edited by stewPik: Jul 16 2013, 12:26 AM
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jayraptor
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Jul 16 2013, 12:26 AM
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 16 2013, 12:15 AM) i fck u because u are fcking dumb. already told u curb weight figures, lancer gt 1360 , inspira 2.0P 1350, yet u claimed got 50kg different. then u telling me that swaybar/anti roll bar weight about 50kg??? have u hold one before??? i even show u how a 35mm arb or metal bar u called it weight about 6.xkg. yet u still telling me tiny 20mm hollow bar weight about 50kg i really salute u , u really champion  because u can make yourself believe the crap first and then crap like that is the fact, if other people dont know about car, they really possible will believe in u.  Don't change the specs. Lancer GT declared kerb weight is 1385kg in here, in West Asia, in US and in Japan. Inspira and Lancer GL kerb weight at 1335kg. Stick to facts. Don't reply if you are here to stir trouble rather than car talk.
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ngjx
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Jul 16 2013, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE(stewPik @ Jul 16 2013, 12:25 AM) Afterreading the thread for awhile almost all in here is being neutral.....personal attack on u...yes, cuz it seems u can't accept criticism from others, nobody said lander gt and inspira is the exact same car, we only stated that almost all of the parts is imported from Japan but assembled locally, besides the absorbers that is design n made by proton. We are claiming that inspira is no where inferior to Lancet gt, bsides the 2 is tune differently on handling. It seems u r the one trying to prove that inspira is a cheap knock off or worst quality/performance than Lancet gt. Which I believe strongly that u r very wrong. When ask u for ur facts to back up ur statement n believes, u r only giving nonsense and hear says or believe while k3nny actually gave u hard facts n proofs with specs sheets, parts number n photos which u still refuse to accept n believe, so tell me who is being the child here? So let me repeat my question, on what basis do u claim that inspira is a weaker/worst car compared to the Lancet gt?50kg!!! This post has been edited by ngjx: Jul 16 2013, 12:30 AM
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WilliamHoo
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Jul 16 2013, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(ngjx @ Jul 16 2013, 12:21 AM) his professional source told him is 50kg difference ok! PROFESSIONAL!! ada paham?? PROFESSIONAL! what r u?? just a p1 ruthless salesman....  he is ghey lolxxxxxx bodoh craptor Professional Mitsu Salesmen Anti Roll Bar... jargon word? only u shallow-minded and stupid noob-arse calls it a 50kg metal bar Omg.... self claiming the 50kg difference... then ask for the answer BODOH Jayraptor
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