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 [WTA]Fiesta vs 208 vs Inspira vs Prius C, <RM90k car for Single late 20s male

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TSLeoWillis
post Jul 6 2013, 08:22 PM, updated 13y ago

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Waiting for the 1.5L Fiesta this year & 1.0L Fiesta next year before make decision.

For now...
1st choice - 2.0E Inspira
2nd choice - 1.0L Fiesta
3rd choice - 1.5L Fiesta



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This post has been edited by LeoWillis: Aug 11 2013, 08:22 PM
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:28 PM

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Love the fiesta.
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:30 PM

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car 1,2,3 are fun to drive.

fast car? 3.

but i have seen car 4 doing 180kmh and cucuk all the way, so...its really up to u and salesman
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:30 PM

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What is the difference between Fiesta 1.6 S 2013 and 2014?

We're not even sure yet which variant will arrive at our shores for the facelift.
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:37 PM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 6 2013, 08:30 PM)
car 1,2,3 are fun to drive.

fast car? 3.

but i have seen car 4 doing 180kmh and cucuk all the way, so...its really up to u and salesman
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for city drive(with so many corners & traffic lights), I consider all 3 cars as fast car...Except in highway
then i should see which salesman service me better & giving me better offer~ lol biggrin.gif


QUOTE(dares @ Jul 6 2013, 08:30 PM)
What is the difference between Fiesta 1.6 S 2013 and 2014?

We're not even sure yet which variant will arrive at our shores for the facelift.
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true, it's not announce yet. But based on the Europe ver & US ver, the "Aston Martin" grille like Fiesta is really is a charm... I hope the 2014 ver. provide even more & better interior from the 2013 ver.
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:39 PM

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Maintenance for Inspira is not cheap... If I am still single, will go for Fiesta or 208. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 6 2013, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 6 2013, 08:37 PM)
for city drive(with so many corners & traffic lights), I consider all 3 cars as fast car...Except in highway
then i should see which salesman service me better & giving me better offer~ lol  biggrin.gif
true, it's not announce yet. But based on the Europe ver & US ver, the "Aston Martin" grille like Fiesta is really is a charm... I hope the 2014 ver. provide even more & better interior from the 2013 ver.
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those 1.6 car are not fast in city. even 2.0 are not fast.

those milotin car like myvi/vios are fast in city.


i suggest you try each car with 3 test drives with frens around, because if you test drive with 1 round and high speed test means nothing. try corner corner at the shop area, traffic light, and bring frens.

just do more test drives. it help. btw, aston martin grill on small car is shakehead.gif even the grill on cerato kia(looks better on K5) is not favorable to many.

do endless of test drives, until you smile when you imagine you really driving that car, then, thats the car you want.
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post Jul 6 2013, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(ironfolic @ Jul 6 2013, 08:39 PM)
Maintenance for Inspira is not cheap... If I am still single, will go for Fiesta or 208. thumbup.gif
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Although I don't have actual facts. But i think the small cc continental cars are as expensive as the 2.0cc inspira.


QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 6 2013, 08:41 PM)
those 1.6 car are not fast in city. even 2.0 are not fast.

those milotin car like myvi/vios are fast in city.
i suggest you try each car with 3 test drives with frens around, because if you test drive with 1 round and high speed test means nothing. try corner corner at the shop area, traffic light, and bring frens.

just do more test drives. it help. btw, aston martin grill on small car is  shakehead.gif  even the grill on cerato  kia(looks better on K5) is not favorable to many.

do endless of test drives, until you smile when you imagine you really driving that car, then, thats the car you want.
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lol, thanks for the advise... I would try it when i reduce the shortlist to 2 cars... rclxms.gif
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post Jul 6 2013, 09:59 PM

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Have you considered the Fiesta sedan? The looks is... not so nice, but you get much better safety features (since that may decide whether you'll be alive or not a few years down the road I'd consider it important smile.gif ). Price is a bit lower than the Fiesta Sport.
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post Jul 6 2013, 10:17 PM

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does fiesta sedan come with ESC?
TSLeoWillis
post Jul 6 2013, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(kadajawi @ Jul 6 2013, 09:59 PM)
Have you considered the Fiesta sedan? The looks is... not so nice, but you get much better safety features (since that may decide whether you'll be alive or not a few years down the road I'd consider it important smile.gif ). Price is a bit lower than the Fiesta Sport.
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you mean more airbags?? i think these extra airbags are for the sake of the passanger...lol

QUOTE(chemistry @ Jul 6 2013, 10:17 PM)
does fiesta sedan come with ESC?
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i believe in Ford, they called it ESP
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post Jul 6 2013, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(chemistry @ Jul 6 2013, 10:17 PM)
does fiesta sedan come with ESC?
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Yes

QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 6 2013, 10:29 PM)
you mean more airbags?? i think these extra airbags are for the sake of the passanger...lol
i believe in Ford, they called it ESP
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The driver will benefit from the side airbag, curtain airbags and knee airbag as well.
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post Jul 6 2013, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 6 2013, 08:41 PM)
those 1.6 car are not fast in city. even 2.0 are not fast.

those milotin car like myvi/vios are fast in city.
i suggest you try each car with 3 test drives with frens around, because if you test drive with 1 round and high speed test means nothing. try corner corner at the shop area, traffic light, and bring frens.

just do more test drives. it help. btw, aston martin grill on small car is  shakehead.gif  even the grill on cerato  kia(looks better on K5) is not favorable to many.

do endless of test drives, until you smile when you imagine you really driving that car, then, thats the car you want.
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Cars that feel fast aren't really fast. Because of lightweight, less stable give you the impression of fast? Cars that can really go fast would not feel fast at all as it is too stable and you'll only notice when looking at speedometer.

The bigger heavier C-segment Forte 1.6 and Elantra 1.6 actually beats Vios in 0-100km/h acceleration by 0.3s. You play hard cornering, you'll trust the old Forte and current Elantra better. Corner around shop areas is dangerous to pedestrians and other road users. Do it at somewhere secluded not open to public better.

Back to TS request:
If this car is his only source of bread car where every1 depends on, he should void hybrid at all cost. Based on his list, I suggest he go for Fiesta for handling, safety, easy drive, reliability/durability, FC and ease of maintenance.

If he really wanted C-segment to ferry parents around and wanted hassle free, go for Elantra 1.6. If he finds C-segment 1.6L not enough power, he can consider old Forte 2.0L if he doesn't mind being phased out soon.

This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 6 2013, 11:00 PM
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post Jul 6 2013, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 6 2013, 10:56 PM)
Cars that feel fast aren't really fast. Because of lightweight, less stable give you the impression of fast? Cars that can really go fast would not feel fast at all as it is too stable and you'll only notice when looking at speedometer.

The bigger heavier C-segment Forte 1.6 and Elantra 1.6 actually beats Vios in 0-100km/h acceleration by 0.3s. You play hard cornering, you'll trust the old Forte and current Elantra better. Corner around shop areas is dangerous to pedestrians and other road users. Do it at somewhere secluded not open to public better.

Back to TS request.
If this car is his only source of bread car where every1 depends on, he should void hybrid at all cost. Based on his list, I suggest he go for Fiesta for handling, safety, easy drive, reliability/durability, FC and ease of maintenance.
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u dont go 0-100 in city, city. remember, city. stop and go.

and the 0.3S is typical korean bs la.

0-60 can forte or elantra beat any milotin like myvi/vios ??

see my avatar.

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post Jul 6 2013, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 6 2013, 08:22 PM)


BTW, I'm at my late 20s single male.

P/s: The segment of the car, Resale value & fuel consumption are not crucial here
I'm look for a better overall performance/exterior/interior car which can last me longer(until i can afford better & bigger car)
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from your words..only one answer inspira 2.0p
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post Jul 6 2013, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(dares @ Jul 6 2013, 10:39 PM)
Yes
The driver will benefit from the side airbag, curtain airbags and knee airbag as well.
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icic... but i don't trust these airbags anyway, even though scientific proven it is true~ tongue.gif
most important is, the sedan looks.... yucks rclxub.gif


QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 6 2013, 10:56 PM)
Back to TS request:
If this car is his only source of bread car where every1 depends on, he should void hybrid at all cost. Based on his list, I suggest he go for Fiesta for handling, safety, easy drive, reliability/durability, FC and ease of maintenance.

If he really wanted C-segment to ferry parents around and wanted hassle free, go for Elantra 1.6. If he finds C-segment 1.6L not enough power, he can consider old Forte 2.0L if he doesn't mind being phased out soon.
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Thanks for your suggestion. But i don't understand about the "source of bread" part. Do you mean it has a higher maintenance cost?


QUOTE(stinger82 @ Jul 6 2013, 10:58 PM)
u dont go 0-100 in city, city. remember, city. stop and go.

and the 0.3S is typical korean bs la.

0-60 can forte or elantra beat any milotin like myvi/vios ??

see my avatar.
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You got the point though sweat.gif
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post Jul 6 2013, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 6 2013, 11:19 PM)
icic... but i don't trust these airbags anyway, even though scientific proven it is true~  tongue.gif
most important is, the sedan looks.... yucks  rclxub.gif
Thanks for your suggestion. But i don't understand about the "source of bread" part. Do you mean it has a higher maintenance cost?
You got the point though  sweat.gif
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Hi LeoWillis,
Source of bread is like breadwinner. Meaning that you'll depend on the car for going to work, fetching brother, sister or parents around where that car must keep running and running without breakdown. If without the car, you will have hard time, example if you do outdoor marketing where you need that car to move from places to meet clients, etc. If this is your only car, you should focus on cars with easy maintenance.

Airbags are proven as there's 1 idiot I knew that often got into serious accident for reckless driving. He said airbags saved him few times. Feel like wanted to tear his driving license preventing him from driving forever than let him endangering innocents.

Ignore stinger82, at 1 time he said going fast is important and at the other end, he said 0-100km/h is not important under city driving. Don't know what he wanted. Acceleration 0-100km/h and handling are not meant for reckless driving but for safety especially in defensive driving. You'll need them to safely evade unexpected obstacle and to get you out of harm's way.

This post has been edited by jayraptor: Jul 6 2013, 11:32 PM
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 6 2013, 11:32 PM)
Hi LeoWillis,
Source of bread is like breadwinner. Meaning that you'll depend on the car for going to work, fetching brother, sister or parents around where that car must keep running and running without breakdown. If without the car, you will have hard time, example if you do outdoor marketing where you need that car to move from places to meet clients, etc. If this is your only car, you should focus on cars with easy maintenance.

Airbags are proven as there's 1 idiot I knew that often got into serious accident for reckless driving. He said airbags saved him few times. Feel like wanted to tear his driving license preventing him from driving forever than let him endangering innocents.

Ignore stinger82, at 1 time he said going fast is important and at the other end, he said 0-100km/h is not important under city driving. Don't know what he wanted. Acceleration 0-100km/h and handling are not meant for reckless driving but for safety especially in defensive driving. You'll need them to safely evade unexpected obstacle and to get you out of harm's way.
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i understand what is source of bread. So, you mean the Prius C are harder to maintenance?

'cause from what i see in the LYN Prius C club, the maintenance cost is quite affordable. Just not sure about the "easy maintenance" you meant compare to conventional car~

i believe stinger82 has his point, as what i mentioned was using the car for city drive. For handling, i haven't try about the Prius C. But for the 3 cars yes, decent handling especially the 208, where i felt it when hard cornering at around 90kmh when test drive. (the only test car done this)
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I did not vote. As diff people have diff needs.. Its better for u to specify what you are looking for? What are more important for u? Safety? Size? Driving pleasure? Mod available? Maintenance? Fc?

mind you inspira is not cheap to maintain! (Dont you think it is a proton and cheap to maintain) smile.gif
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QUOTE(LeoWillis @ Jul 6 2013, 11:49 PM)
i understand what is source of bread. So, you mean the Prius C are harder to maintenance?

'cause from what i see in the LYN Prius C club, the maintenance cost is quite affordable. Just not sure about the "easy maintenance" you meant compare to conventional car~

i believe stinger82 has his point, as what i mentioned was using the car for city drive. For handling, i haven't try about the Prius C. But for the 3 cars yes, decent handling especially the 208, where i felt it when hard cornering at around 90kmh when test drive. (the only test car done this)
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Are you rich in the first place? If you don't have problem forking out RM30k if anything goes wrong after warranty ended and this is your spare car, then you can go for hybrid.

If you go for hybrid, you'll have to stick to it for long term till end as its RV will not be good. Those who buy used cars aren't so rich and they ain't gonna risk buying hybrid at the moment.

Remember, warranty is not guarantee and you still have to pay for maintenance and spare parts. Battery is not issue but the electric engine, inverter, high tech electronic components/modules are your concern.

As our local technician/foreman are highly underpaid like blue collar job earning only RM1.5k after working over 5 years despite highly educated, most of them won't stay in the field for long. This means there won't be many experienced engineers in SC and anything faulty, they'll ask you to replace the parts rather than fixing it. Hybrid cars if involved in accident, will have much to worry should there be collateral damage to nobody knows how to fix electronic parts, undetected at that time of insurance claim. This is why they have tax exemption on hybrid cars as they know many won't dare to buy unless rich.

Check with SC directly for the interval service cost and also check spare part price with those spare part suppliers outside to evaluate cost of overall maintenance and ownership before you even think of buying any of the cars.
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