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khen911
post Apr 22 2014, 11:50 PM

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Hi all, which 1 of the following should I buy?

plextor M5S 256GB rm564
sandisk ultra plus 256GB rm499
Intel 530 Series 240GB rm629

Saw many rig built comments said Intel 530 series good. Pls advise. Thx.
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post Apr 23 2014, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(khen911 @ Apr 22 2014, 11:50 PM)
Hi all, which 1 of the following should I buy?

plextor M5S 256GB rm564
sandisk ultra plus 256GB rm499
Intel 530 Series 240GB rm629

Saw many rig built comments said Intel 530 series good. Pls advise. Thx.
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if you're looking at warranty of 5 years or relatively better performance, go for intel 530. if your budget is tight, sandisk looks viable. (unless there are some reasons behind, sandisk's price is a steal if you asked me)
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post Apr 23 2014, 10:48 AM

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guys, new to ssd here..jsut got mine
i heard it's not encouraged to download torrent or any big files into the ssd as it can wear down it easily..is it true?
khen911
post Apr 23 2014, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 23 2014, 09:33 AM)
if you're looking at warranty of 5 years or relatively better performance, go for intel 530. if your budget is tight, sandisk looks viable. (unless there are some reasons behind, sandisk's price is a steal if you asked me)
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Noted. Thx for ur advice. smile.gif
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post Apr 23 2014, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Apr 23 2014, 10:48 AM)
guys, new to ssd here..jsut got mine
i heard it's not encouraged to download torrent or any big files into the ssd as it can wear down it easily..is it true?
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yep, SSD have limited writes so its best not to keep writing too many files on it

though ofc, the writes are sometimes super huge until itll take a while before it dies. even by then, youll prolly upgraded to a new SSD laugh.gif

usually MLC are rated 10GB writes per day (i could be wrong) so provided you dont exceed that, your SSD more than capable enough to outlast most of your PC parts

EDIT: sorry my bad, bolded part is incorrect. they are rated more. for example Crucial M500/M550 at 66GB per day

This post has been edited by marfccy: Apr 23 2014, 04:00 PM
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post Apr 23 2014, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(infrasonic @ Apr 23 2014, 10:48 AM)
guys, new to ssd here..jsut got mine
i heard it's not encouraged to download torrent or any big files into the ssd as it can wear down it easily..is it true?
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I would not use SSD to download torrent due to such software perform lots of small writes while SSD is great for reading, only ok for writing. SSD probably can still last for a long while torrenting. But since SSD is so much more expensive compare to HDD, I would rather wear down a HDD while running torrent than a SSD.
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post Apr 23 2014, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 23 2014, 03:52 PM)
yep, SSD have limited writes so its best not to keep writing too many files on it

though ofc, the writes are sometimes super huge until itll take a while before it dies. even by then, youll prolly upgraded to a new SSD laugh.gif

usually MLC are rated 10GB writes per day (i could be wrong) so provided you dont exceed that, your SSD more than capable enough to outlast most of your PC parts

EDIT: sorry my bad, bolded part is incorrect. they are rated more. for example Crucial M500/M550 at 66GB per day
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The bigger the SSD capacity, the longer lifespan, http://www.pcworld.com/article/2043634/how...sd-storage.html
Write to SSD is okay, just don't write and erase repeatedly(like you filled up the SSD 70% of capacity and moved the big files to HDD)
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post Apr 23 2014, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Apr 23 2014, 03:52 PM)
yep, SSD have limited writes so its best not to keep writing too many files on it

though ofc, the writes are sometimes super huge until itll take a while before it dies. even by then, youll prolly upgraded to a new SSD laugh.gif

usually MLC are rated 10GB writes per day (i could be wrong) so provided you dont exceed that, your SSD more than capable enough to outlast most of your PC parts

EDIT: sorry my bad, bolded part is incorrect. they are rated more. for example Crucial M500/M550 at 66GB per day
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yes, usually permitted writes are larger than 10GB per day for consumer ssd's. for common usage, that's a huge number to overcome. everyday.

for things like torrents, plus the limited internet bandwidth that we have, hdd is still a better choice. spacious and affordable.
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post Apr 23 2014, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 23 2014, 06:05 PM)
+1
The bigger the SSD capacity, the longer lifespan, http://www.pcworld.com/article/2043634/how...sd-storage.html
Write to SSD is okay, just don't write and erase repeatedly(like you filled up the SSD 70% of capacity and moved the big files to HDD)
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yeah that's the same reason why i suggest to take up larger ssd's.
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post Apr 24 2014, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 23 2014, 09:33 AM)
if you're looking at warranty of 5 years or relatively better performance, go for intel 530. if your budget is tight, sandisk looks viable. (unless there are some reasons behind, sandisk's price is a steal if you asked me)
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I found these sources from google.
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsu...20GB/1886vs1934
http://ssdboss.com/ssds/Samsung-840-EVO-vs-Intel-530

In performance wise, Samsung 840 EVO is better than Intel 530...Is it true?
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post Apr 24 2014, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(khen911 @ Apr 24 2014, 04:04 PM)
I found these sources from google.
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsu...20GB/1886vs1934
http://ssdboss.com/ssds/Samsung-840-EVO-vs-Intel-530

In performance wise, Samsung 840 EVO is better than Intel 530...Is it true?
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in terms of performance (which most of us translate to speed and iops), yes it's true, you can say samsung 840 evo hands down intel 530. (the samsung drive also include ram-based enhancement, RAPID mode, and when enabled i think none of the sata-based ssd's can beat that).

previously i compared the three ssd's that you have listed. intel 530 was a relatively better option. but if you included samsung 840 evo, then i will choose the samsung drive.


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post Apr 25 2014, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(khen911 @ Apr 24 2014, 04:04 PM)
I found these sources from google.
http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Samsu...20GB/1886vs1934
http://ssdboss.com/ssds/Samsung-840-EVO-vs-Intel-530

In performance wise, Samsung 840 EVO is better than Intel 530...Is it true?
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Intel use SandForce 2281 controller, which incompressible data might affect the SSD performance(reduced write and read speed.) There're plenty of cheap SSD use SandForce 2281 if i recall correctly.
while the other use either Marvel or Samsung controller didn't affect much.
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post Apr 25 2014, 10:30 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 23 2014, 06:36 PM)
yes, usually permitted writes are larger than 10GB per day for consumer ssd's. for common usage, that's a huge number to overcome. everyday.

for things like torrents, plus the limited internet bandwidth that we have, hdd is still a better choice. spacious and affordable.
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while HDD are cheaper, their life span are unpredictable according to my experience, i RMA-ed 5 Western Digital HDD, and i'm done with this HDD maker.
Backing up the data from almost dead drive is pain in the arse, RAID drive even worst, random drop-out.
Just hope the NAND price keep dropping like mad and soon affordable 3TB SSD will be priced close to current HDD price lol sweat.gif
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post Apr 25 2014, 11:33 AM

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ADATA SP900 128GB is good ? please advise . newbie in ssd info. biggrin.gif thanks
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post Apr 25 2014, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Apr 24 2014, 11:15 PM)
in terms of performance (which most of us translate to speed and iops), yes it's true, you can say samsung 840 evo hands down intel 530. (the samsung drive also include ram-based enhancement, RAPID mode, and when enabled i think none of the sata-based ssd's can beat that).

previously i compared the three ssd's that you have listed. intel 530 was a relatively better option. but if you included samsung 840 evo, then i will choose the samsung drive.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 25 2014, 10:25 AM)
Intel use SandForce 2281 controller, which incompressible data might affect the SSD performance(reduced write and read speed.) There're plenty of cheap SSD use SandForce 2281 if i recall correctly.
while the other use either Marvel or Samsung controller didn't affect much.
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I will go for Samsung Evo 840 then. Cheers! smile.gif
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post Apr 25 2014, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 25 2014, 10:25 AM)
Intel use SandForce 2281 controller, which incompressible data might affect the SSD performance(reduced write and read speed.) There're plenty of cheap SSD use SandForce 2281 if i recall correctly.
while the other use either Marvel or Samsung controller didn't affect much.
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imo lsi sandforce is here to stay. although it's true that this controller had some bad histories previously, with certain characteristics that are not perfect, we still cannot deny the fact that it helped bring down the costs during the early development of consumer ssd technologies, so that we can benefit from it. until now, if we cannot afford those higher-price brands, we still have cheaper options. (relatively not that efficient but still better than hdd)

by the way some notes: the current trend of ssd development is further segmentation into more specific usage. (maybe they think we are not confused enough hehe).

QUOTE(1024kbps @ Apr 25 2014, 10:30 AM)
while HDD are cheaper, their life span are unpredictable according to my experience, i RMA-ed 5 Western Digital HDD, and i'm done with this HDD maker.
Backing up the data from almost dead drive is pain in the arse, RAID drive even worst, random drop-out.
Just hope the NAND price keep dropping like mad and soon affordable 3TB SSD will be priced close to current HDD price lol sweat.gif
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yeah i have read about your incidence before and that's really worrying because i also have some 3tb drives from the same maker lol!

the current sweet spot in terms of ssd size is now 512gb (performance/price ratio is shifting dramatically every year. good sign). however the one thing we wish for, the price drop, is not at the same pace :/
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QUOTE(sibun @ Apr 25 2014, 11:33 AM)
ADATA SP900 128GB is good ? please advise . newbie in ssd info. biggrin.gif thanks
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maybe someone with that drive can give you a better insights.

QUOTE(khen911 @ Apr 25 2014, 12:21 PM)
I will go for Samsung Evo 840 then. Cheers!  smile.gif
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oh nice i am getting some, too hehe
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post Apr 25 2014, 05:38 PM

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hi guys, which msata ssd is the best bang for buck? i'm looking for 120gb size
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post Apr 25 2014, 06:44 PM

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best bang for buck.. AceCombat is selling plextor/liteon m6m (oem) for MYR 280. check out her thread at garage sales if you're interested.

if you want local retail stocks (with full manufacturer warranty), it's better for you check other sellers out.

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do i need enable intel rapid start tech and smart connect technology for ssd?

and also uefi thing? does it increase boot time?

This post has been edited by wansirpunk: Apr 27 2014, 11:22 AM

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