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dstl1128
post Sep 24 2007, 07:08 PM

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Do you use a lot of highway cruising? Mine is basically 100% city driving (SPRINT and LITRAK don't count as highway coz always jam!!! LOL).

Not always highway. A mix city of journey to chowkit, cheras, lowyat from melawati. My average is around 360~370km for RM50.

If I go for highway melawati-puchong (+ jams), I get 380~390km for RM50.

If I go from melawati-wangsa maju lrt, I get 260km for RM50.

I usually drive with a very consciously right foot, cruising smoothly in the city. Only occasionally rev high right after toll (can't resist sometimes).

When I pass myvi to my sister, she got 320km for Rm50 and complain to me FC high. I make fun of her having elephant leg, and then teach her. Now she can get 360~370km. I have no idea where she drive to but she came back and says "... now is better."


p/s: My max is 15km/L for EZi. wink.gif I usually let my petrol refill auto-stop. When the pump stop usually RM50.xx +/- RM2.


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post Sep 24 2007, 07:11 PM

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@Matrix for sprint highway, if it is jammed, use the eastin hotel bypass, less headache because the road even if really jammed up is just 2 lanes.. not like after pay toll still jam and 7 lanes squeeze into 2 lanes. There was not much FC difference using the eastin way even on offpeak.

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post Sep 24 2007, 07:20 PM

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Mine morning jam in subang as usual from USJ out to Subang i get around 350 for RM50.
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post Sep 25 2007, 12:35 AM

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For the sake of all owners..

I had to repost my warning from Savoc. Becareful when washing your engines, check the rubber sealant at the edge of the bonnet. Hose spray the bonnet to find if there's any leaking

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This is savvy's connector, pic posted by nerdeliteonline ..I had a similar hole on my 4th connector though a little smaller where my 3rd and 4th plugs oxidised badly. Rough idling, engine misfirings and power loss happened right just after a heavy downpour. Solved with insulator tape and a new set of spark plugs.

My badly oxidised plugs.
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3877
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/518755

Check out the link
http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/techbull...ch_mrbishi1.htm


Same problem found on other types of connectors! And at the same location!

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Spark plug connector shown above has been damaged by water inside a spark plug well. Red arrow points to an arc-hole burnt by the spark arcing through the plastic tube to reach the water on the outside of the tube at times when the spark finds it easier to ground out to the water than it is to fire across a widened spark plug gap (from wear or adjustment) when the engine is under load.


An arc-hole in the plastic tube can be hard to find, and a magnifier will help (it is not always as obvious as the example shown at left) - but usually it will appear at the location marked by the red arrow (anywhere around the plastic tube). The example connector shown also had oil all over it from a leaking valve cover gasket, and the car had been driven a great number of miles in this condition with the engine misfiring each time the connector became wet and arcing occurred.

Hot engine oil can also cause the bottom seal to swell.


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Example of latest version all silicone rubber one piece spark plug connector shown above (also covered in engine oil) can withstand more abuse from water and oil than the OE style connector, although too much water and/or oil in spark plug well will also cause this style connector to become damaged over time. If water is not removed from well soon after an engine miss is first noticed, an arc-hole can also be burned by the spark wanting to ground out to the water on the outside of this connector in preference to firing across a widened spark plug gap (from wear or adjustment) when the engine is under load. Red arrow indicates area where an arc-hole will most likely be found (anywhere around the connector's shaft).



How to solve/repair the problem


1. wrap the connector's affected area (the hole) with insulator tape.
http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2439

or

2. Repair it with RTV silicone adhesive. Clean the connector with a solvent, and open up the hole with a small nail or paperclip so that the RTV can be pushed into and around it. Allow RTV to set for about 12 hours. Remove all water and oil from spark plug well before re-installing. Also check condition of spark plugs.

http://www.magnecor.com/magnecor1/techbull...ch_mrbishi1.htm


How to prevent the problem from happening in future.


1. Seal with O-rings to prevent moisture/water going into the hole. Tobyboy's method.

http://www.savoc.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=155378#155378

2. Reinforce the connectors with hi temperature insulator tape ( can be bought at Jusco at RM7 per roll. Wrap at lower part of the connectors, where the holes could possibly appear like shown in the pic. That's what I did to the unaffected connectors.
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post Sep 25 2007, 02:35 PM

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Thanks for the guide bro.*Thumbs UP*
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post Sep 25 2007, 03:40 PM

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my gf is thinking bout getting savvy highline,but i couldn't find what is the difference of highline compare to standard line,anyone please advise me?hypermount?

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post Sep 25 2007, 03:42 PM

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Hi Line have ABS and Air BAG while ML do not have those two.
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post Sep 25 2007, 05:01 PM

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Yeah, Hline equiped with ABS, Air bag, and Diffrent design rims. There are a little diffrence on interior too just the colour. Nothing much. Go to a showroom have a sight of the car better.
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post Sep 26 2007, 07:49 PM

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Check out Proton Savvy going up hill in Fifth Gear Season 12 episode 4.. smile.gif
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post Sep 26 2007, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(maxsteel @ Sep 26 2007, 07:49 PM)
Check out Proton Savvy going up hill in Fifth Gear  Season 12 episode 4.. smile.gif
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lucky they didnt do it on Viva


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post Sep 27 2007, 01:42 AM

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i would take savvy as my second car for my wife icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 27 2007, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(maxsteel @ Sep 26 2007, 07:49 PM)
Check out Proton Savvy going up hill in Fifth Gear  Season 12 episode 4.. smile.gif
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Link please??
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post Sep 27 2007, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Sep 27 2007, 05:55 PM)
Link please??
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It's at the end of here:
Part 3

Continues here:
Part 4

The guy said the Atoz has better handling than Savvy.. shocking.gif
Guess Lotus' not as good as we all thought... sweat.gif
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post Sep 28 2007, 12:11 AM

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Johnny say the atos is nicer to drive than the savvy, well maybe i agree because atos is more for comfortable and more refine towards town driving compare to savvy which is more rough. But as for winding road, he said the savvy handle better than the savvy? shocking.gif, if u had sat in both car before u will know.
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post Sep 28 2007, 12:53 AM

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That FL Savvy is on 15'' wheels with 50 series tyres...of course more bumpy than the rest.

I went all the way up to the Genting peak with 4 grown up passengers+luggages, with 1 passenger up gunung brinchang with no issues..

Now I'm on lighter 13'' wheels, pickup could be better.

Maybe the steering was too heavy for him or his 2 fat buddies at the back affectted the handling too much..see how the rear of the cars lowered that much. Savvy has heavy steering and soft rear coil spring.


Added on September 28, 2007, 1:24 amSavvy is wider than the Atos Prima..if you look at the shoulder gap between the driver and front passenge. I'll always thought Atos is roomier.

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post Oct 4 2007, 01:26 AM

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Wondering if the warranty will be void if we add on a voltage stablizer?
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QUOTE(Benjamin1213 @ Oct 4 2007, 01:26 AM)
Wondering if the warranty will be void if we add on a voltage stablizer?
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I think better not...furthermore, who knows what it'll fry if ur VS is not installed properly.....especially with our cars like Savvy with lotsa propriatery tech and not so common wan...

Anyway, what benefits can get from VS? Better radio reception? Don't think it'll have any effects on FC.
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post Oct 4 2007, 09:52 AM

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voltage stabilizer is overhyped and overrated
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post Oct 4 2007, 10:47 AM

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Uh oh yeah, thats what my friends been telling me its full of Bullsh**ing
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post Oct 4 2007, 11:39 AM

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yeah....proton savvy FTW biggrin.gif

guys....look at paultan latest update
savvy on 5th gear biggrin.gif

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