But you can't beat Japanese car reliability still, and that buys customers' heart.

I think the Waja Campro is DOHC (DOHC that appeared in 1980s that is).

*wrong post*

This post has been edited by dstl1128: May 19 2006, 03:41 PM

So, Savvy have these keywords associated for safety:
1. Godly handling
2. Godly suspension
3. Godly tough chasis

Compare to the safety keywords other (eg Vios) cars have:
1. ABS
2. EBD
3. SRS (Dual) Air-bags.
4. Retention seat belts
5. Crumple zone
6. GOA

This is one of the reason I fear of buying Proton, cheap plastic everywhere eventhough Gen2 Hi-line/Neo seems like a sweet deal.

Cars recently use a lot of hard plastic.

The problem with Proton using hard plastic is that it feels more cheap skate. Even with Satria Neo, the feel is still there.

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Jul 25 2006, 11:31 AM

Come to think of it, the Campro definitely needs AMT to perform better otherwise it is so unresponsive.



Yep, cars now uses hard plastic. But unlike Proton they have it touch up, while Proton leave it bare naked... that's the problem.

You must remember for clumsy-foot driver, carburator consume a lot of fuel.



I think hypermount too happy with using Savvy overtake Civic'06. Remember Savvy has lighter body and would be anytime zippier than Civic'06. I also expect Ferrari loose to you as the Ferrari driver can't afford to trash his car. Just take your Savvy touge with another Savvy on downhill more fair like that. If you pass him, that means his Savvy have lousier setups or defects?!

Be ready to use the 'O/D off' button on slop when you are between 60kmph-80kmph for MyVi 1.3 AT. Now I wish Perodua should have include SuperECT for its AT.

With that interior color, I might get one to play.

You can't compare the price directly as countries have different buying power.

£.98 per litre for them isn't that bad having that they earn on everage £2000 per month on the average. Considering that they could buy Savvy with around £6000~£7000, they don't even need bank loan to buy a new car. And in that price range, they got whole lot of other choices.

In Malaysia,
RM1.92 per litre for us, and average RM2000 per month. Savvy cost RM45k (I'm guessing), with years of loan. Remember the choices we could have in RM45k range. Now that's a big different.


So the interior is black. Cool. What's the price for Savvy AMT right now (I can't find the price in the Proton website, not even in the PDF)? And when is the Hi Line (with ABS/EBD/BEBD) coming?

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Oct 27 2006, 04:22 PM

Now this is what Savvy's rear should looks like.

goldfries, the blue Savvy looks good. Should have been like that.

MyVi 1.3 EZi:
35km +/- 5km distance daily: RM50 -> 360km~390km
< 10km distance daily (very short trip): RM50 -> 260km~290km
Avg city driving would be in the middle of these two settings.

I haven't try going long distance trip > 100km.


p/s: with rate RM1.92/L

This post has been edited by dstl1128: Dec 7 2006, 11:58 AM

I suppose a straight road condition.



Very good. Just wanna ask, is this mostly in highway or city? I think this is the main selling point for Savvy, not 'build tougher'. Another thing Proton could improve its Savvy sales is to ensure 'cheaper parts cost' mindset for its Savvy's french engine/mechanical parts.



Yep. It shouldn't be locked, but any bashes or anti-bashes should be deleted from now on. The word 'sux' and 'filmsy' and 'cheap plastic' and 'poor quality' appears too often. What we need here is the experience from Savvy owner, especially figure regarding FC, part costs, problems, and how to improve the rides.

From here:


Non-national vs national cars having a big shift. If Proton still haven't wake-up, by all means they can still sells their dated models and continue complain the parts' price increase causes them to nail a net loss. Wira and Saga/Iswara are still the same since the beginning of time. Even Kancil already improve a lot vs the 1st model.

On the quality issue... by giving some hope, I was going to book a new Waja next month but having my friend's new Neo front-left door leaking water on the 2nd weekvery recently, I lost my hope and planning Honda or Toyota. :sigh:


Glad they change Savvy's butt a little but, they should have improve more as well as the interior. And above all else, quality and reputation are still an issue for Proton.

I tried 30km/h 4th gear on my KE70 before, no jerks and smooth. Nothing special here.

I notice a cracked windscreen there, very dangerous, shouldn't have happen in such collision. This is bad safety.


The 4-point strut bar may have been the cause of the cracked windscreen.

There is slightly more delay for AMT to engage a gear vs a seasoned manual driver. So manual FC should be only slightly better, but not far apart I guess.

The best Savvy color is still the silver metallic. Cheers.


mystvearn, and mictang_suingau.