I have both wash-only and wash-and-wax shampoos for the daily drivers - to keep the wax going longer, I use the latter but when I start afresh I use the former. Again, it depends on what you require and what you want to achieve.

Thanx bro

I don't even want to know if my claying affected the paint, cause if I knew I'll go crazy like you finding the right torchlight and polisher to get rid of any defects And I know that will definitely burn a black hole in my bank account

This is a hard one to answer. I agree that the waterspots is just sitting on the protection layer of Permanon and not even reached the clear coat and paint. But the thing with claying is that the surface will always be smooth when your done hence the assumption that the coating was scrape off when claying, and maybe the clear coat or paint as well (but I don't think so, that is why you have wet sanding and polishing for that). So its hard to tell especially when you have someone like me who coats the surface 3 layers every month, I only did this 3 month straight, and must have build up a full 1cm of coating (if that is even possible).

The only way to answer your question is to measure the thickness of the surface like Larry showed in this episode before and after doing the claying. At the moment I am blind, and clueless, as to how much my claying took out the coating. All I can assume is it did and I need to coat it 3 layers and do it 5 months straight Talk about being kiasu

solution to dilemma? get both.

Anyway, I get the meguiars starter kit which come with ultimate wash wax shampoo, but the wash wax shampoo do really help wax? My experience tell me that it doesnt really help because after wash my car, my surface wont smooth as I apply ULW, maybe I should give a try to gold class to compare

Between 2, which give better lubricant?


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I'm wondering whether there's really that much of a difference.....

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Anyone has any good recommendation for a good car wash and polish around Damansara Heights/Bangsar/Hartamas or PJ area?

My budget is around RM200-300 for a full polish. Not sure if that is possible.

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what do you guys use as a cleaner? just done wash + clay + wax yesterday and i found there were a few "spot" on my paint. cant remove it with only clay and quick detailer. is there any good cleaner? and i having some issue with those plastic exterior what should we apply on them? ca we apply UWL on them?

I'm not sure about other products but I used optimum power clean for removing stubborn marks.

Would u get Ultimate Wash and wax shampoo

Or

GOLD class shampoo + Ultimate Quick Wax after wash?

2 have different price tag too

UWW rm65
GOLD CLASS RM45

That rm20 make different?

Water spots? Try an AIO or light polish like DG501 or Megs SwirlX or the like. Or, if you want to try cleaning them up with a 'liquid', for water spots you'd need something acidic like vinegar, lime, etc. or dedicated water spot remover like DG505 Water Spot Remover (which smells very similar like vinegar).

For plastic exterior, you'd need a dressing that's meant for rubber/plastic. Silicon/gel type would last longer, water based dressings won't but they're easier to apply. Plenty of them out there and my favourite for exterior is Megs Ultimate Protectant if silicon/gel or DG321 if water based.

I have heard people claimed that after using UWW car surfaces lack of slickness.

UWW containing wax whereas gold class is pure car shampoo.

For me I prefer gold class + quick wax compared to only UWW.

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Thank you

my car only 2 month old so should i polish it using ultimate polish? or just use megs swirlX to remove those water spots? will vinegar hurt the paint?

gonna get Ultimate protection this weekend. really like megs product. they smell so good.

what i suggest will be UWW + UQW as weekly maintenance, gold class + Ultimate liquid wax as monthly maintenance.

By hand, they're just *very* mild polishes and not aggressive enough to remove much of the paint. And vinegar also won't harm the paint.

mind to show me the way to remove using vinegar? for new car with water mark which one will be better? polish or using vinegar?