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post May 4 2013, 04:21 PM

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Aww man, missed the last meet sad.gif I've always wanted to get a feel of those machines as I don't dare to try it without the feeling that something really wrong may happen. Gotta learn the correction techniques from the pros smile.gif

Btw guys, what's a good spray wax to recommend? I'm on OCW and it's fantastic with its speed and ease, but I will want to try something new once the I'm done with the bottle. DG Aquawax anyone?

I've got a sample of Surf City Garage's Barrier Reef liquid wax as well too, no experience with them yet but it'll be a good test for the car that sits outside in sun and rain 24/7 smile.gif
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post May 4 2013, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 4 2013, 05:28 PM)
pity man, having sifu krismas explaining everything in detail was a very unique experience  thumbup.gif

for cars that sits outdoor under sun/rain 24/7, spray wax isnt recommended, unless you're ok on waxing all the time after car wash weekly/bi-weekly hehe
then again there are some more expensive ones that could last slightly longer

personally i've never bothered on spray waxes before because of their durability (or price)
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QUOTE(GRexer @ May 4 2013, 06:11 PM)
Actually, I find that OCW is surprisingly lasting for "only a spray wax", personal experience is that it lasted easily a month(or more) for me, that is with only a single wash in between.

Have not tried other spray waxes so I can't comment on others.
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Just did a wax job on the sibling's car with the liquid wax - all I can say is it's back to the spray tongue.gif It was fairly easy on the flat surfaces but absolutely tedious at the gaps and tight corners where the wax kept getting into the crevices. Buffing was tiring too but at least I had another pair of hands to alternate the work. Gloss and slickness-wise, can't tell a difference but I'll find out quite soon about the durability - the last time I had OCW on the same car, it lasted less than two weeks sad.gif

What waxes do you guys use anyway?

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post May 4 2013, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 4 2013, 07:05 PM)
well if you did proper surface prep, id reckon more than 2 weeks or maybe 1-2 months could be very possible.

personally im on cheapo turtle wax biggrin.gif

once i gather up more skill/knowledge, ill move up a notch, then by next year or so ill probably be ready to detail my new car XD
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The car's paint was relatively clean which didn't facilitate claying, but it was during the rainy season so the wax was put to the test.

New car? That means this Iswara will be gone? sad.gif

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post May 5 2013, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(mav3rick @ May 5 2013, 10:51 AM)
i managed to try out the OCW sample that was provided to me by Bro KrisMas. The only other spray wax that i've used is Meg's UQW. So i'm only able to do a premature comparison between these 2.

What i liked about OCW is that it is easy to use, just like the UQW, its just mist and wipe off. Streaking will be present if you use too much, so do not overspray. 2-3 sprays should cover one door panel. It also does not within trim. In fact it darkens the trim. I like this effect. Not able to see durability results yet smile.gif

to be honest, i prefer the gloss and 'darkening' of the paint effect of the UQW. But i'm willing to trade that for more durability.

oh ya, i noticed that OCW has some larger white particles which are quite noticeable when sprayed on the paint surface. no biggie though, easily wiped off.
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The best part about OCW is the ability to work on trims, which is really important for a mist sprayer like myself smile.gif I used it quite sparingly at that time of my tests, but perhaps a stronger mist may well contribute to the durability.

Also, it was mentioned by Optimum that it should be left for 30 minutes to set.

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post May 7 2013, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ May 6 2013, 09:23 PM)
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This is the reason why I want to apply coating on my car. What you are looking at is after effect of after driving during heavy rain.

I still wax my car, really. Car detailing is just an exercise for me.

Sorry for the hologram, amateur detailer is like that.
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Same here. It's a good way to sweat it out, and what's best is all of your effort goes to your car. nod.gif

There was a time where the waxed car was so dirty after short showers of rain, a few days later the skies poured out and tada, the car came out cleaner than it was before laugh.gif

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post May 8 2013, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ May 8 2013, 10:59 AM)
Our dirty environment. Also, you didn't wipe off the water and just let it dry by itself.

Your coating also like worst case scenario, which car coat have you applied?
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ May 8 2013, 11:23 AM)
Rain/hard water containing contaminants/minerals...left on paint then water would evaporate leaving the concentrated contaminant/minerals. The contaminants/mineral can be acidic or caustic and, if left exposed to heat & rain for too long, can etch the clear coat/coating.
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What I'll do in a rush is to spray the recently-rained car with water to wash off the rain - at least pipe water would be much less of contaminants but the water hardness may vary. Or better yet if you have a distiller, pouring two 1.5 litre bottles over your car should do the trick.
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post May 8 2013, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(uexpress @ May 8 2013, 10:28 PM)
Hi guy,

Where can I buy OCW?
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There are a few online retailers here, or you can look at www.ultimateshine.com.my - but then again, I have never seen them restock their items.
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post May 9 2013, 04:24 PM

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Looking for a bottle of Opti-Seal. If you got extra, PM me smile.gif
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post May 14 2013, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 14 2013, 08:12 AM)
yeah it is disheartening a bit, but since the dirt's etched deep (over 2 weeks no wash, or lol bird dropping/treesap that i didnt qd off) it can't be helped sad.gif
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I usually keep a small spray bottle of ONR in wash dilution ratio in the car- when I spot sap/droppings I give it a spray to soften the crud then wet a piece of tissue with the same ONR spray to remove the softened dirt off the car.
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post May 15 2013, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(acefreakz @ May 15 2013, 07:10 PM)
Yellowing become white LOL. so far now stil not yellowish look yet <3 yeah did the whole car, then meg wax on top biggrin.gif i nv so happy man after 2 weeks LOL, btw i didnt wax last week as i do waxing every week before this. Duragloss kinda clean the surface, makes the wax even long lasting, that's wat i feel la haha

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Just curious, when buffing the remaining wax off the body - is it normal for the residue to end up black on the microfiber cloth? Or does that mean the body surface is still dirty? No matter how much I had washed, stripped and clayed the area the residue still turns dark.

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post May 20 2013, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(lonewolf @ May 20 2013, 08:18 PM)
i wish i could get the 1 gallon, but don;t know where to get. The last i contact KC from detailien, they said their stock is stuck in custom, and i was not sure is he carrying in any 1 gallon OPC or not.

i need maybe around 1litre, need to keep some and do some major work next month.
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Speaking of OPC, I used it today to do spot cleaning at a 2:1 ratio on paint to clean stains. I have white paint, and the spot immediately took a lighter color than the uncleaned areas wink.gif

I know it is possible to use it as a pre-wash to remove wax and such, but how much of a dilution ratio should I use for paint cleaning? Should I spray and wash off, or place some mixed with water in a bucket and wash normally?

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post May 20 2013, 09:16 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ May 20 2013, 08:54 PM)
Optimum's recommended dilutions are neat - up to 1:3. I've tried with 1:5 & it still worked well. I don't know how the pros do it but, for me, I would wet the panel, then spray on the panel and lightly wipe with a damp cloth, then rinse the panel with a hose. Later on I would wash the whole car again with normal shampoo to make sure NO residue left whatsoever. Just don't let it dry on the paint or work if the panel is warm. The residue left *could* be a little difficult to remove later. Oh...and make sure no loose grits ya...they could be picked up by the mf then scratch the paint. Call me OCD but I'd rather be safe than sorry......
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ May 20 2013, 08:55 PM)
You can also try your method using the bucket...it might work too...maybe better...
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Got it - I'm leaning more towards the spray method or I will soon be another person to ask you for OPC wink.gif It's becoming a precious commodity nowadays...

You can see the color lightening below the curve - ignore the black spot, phone camera problem sad.gif slightly difficult to see it from the browser due to the poor color gradient but it's visible under the OS picture viewer.

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post May 21 2013, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ May 21 2013, 03:44 PM)
It's the same glass coating that I'm currently using on the rest of my car. The original (1st version) Opti Coat and CQuartz lasted me around a month maybe two, others (not many) are a dissapointment.
Note: I gauge the durability by how water bead/sheet so the coating might (or might not) still be there.
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QUOTE(arj @ May 21 2013, 04:01 PM)
Wow.. was expecting more from Opti Coat and CQuartz since on the American and British forums it is claimed to last more than a year sweat.gif
Looking at the feedback from KrisMas above, maybe the conditions here are too harsh for the coatings to survive on our rims sweat.gif
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I've had Sierra Glow on my wheels, it's just another glass coating in the market similarly to Opti-Coat and I'm still experiencing good beading on them... never used any sealants or waxes, just a good clean scrub every week. smile.gif
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QUOTE(arj @ May 22 2013, 07:00 PM)
Stop tailgating! tongue.gif

I use to do that and have quite a number of rock chips on my hood and lots of tiny marks on my windscreen. After touching up the hood and polishing the windscreen I no longer drive so close to the car in front. Problem solved laugh.gif
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This.

Had many unfortunate incidents with driving behind concrete trucks, even with a reasonable distance - huge mess to deal with, even harder when dried. Solution? When you see a concrete truck, slow down, switch lane. If single lane, take alternative route laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ May 23 2013, 10:29 AM)


It did feel smooth for a while, then when the screen gets dirty they start to judder a bit, clean again, smooth again, dirty then judder again, clean then smooth again....then after a few rainstorms and wiper usage, beading on those wiper area got weaker and those area where the wipers didn't reach got hard waterspots. Water run-offs also not as good as RainX (fresh)....expensive....so back to RainX.
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If you have ONR, just mix some into a QD dilution and spray onto dried and cleaned windscreen, then wipe off. Works as a good cheap repellent too. I'm not sure about the durability though, I reapply it after every wash.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 23 2013, 09:43 AM)
first time heard of it from arj, autogeek sweat.gif
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Read it on Autogeek too. Wipeless - looks pretty amazing. Would be a very good idea for the wheels smile.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 23 2013, 12:50 PM)
the chemicals/materials involved/mentioned in the product is quite capable on handling heat, so it's very VERY convincing smile.gif
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Now when will this item reach our fair shores...
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post May 28 2013, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(arj @ May 28 2013, 02:28 PM)
The longest lasting tyre dressing I've tried so far, Meguiars Endurance Tyre Gel. Applied it a week ago and the picture below was taken after washing the car this morning, still looking very good. The car did over 500km in between. Tyres and rims was cleaned with only a wool mitt and leftover shampoo from washing the car.

Price per bottle might look a bit pricey at RM50+ but you only need very little and only need to reapply every 2-3 weeks, 4 if not much rain and don't travel long distance. I usually apply 3 coats with 5 minutes drying time in between. I bought my bottle over a year ago and only used half!

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 28 2013, 02:47 PM)
eh so all of them you're using = crappy stuff? or you're referring to the glass polish only? which glass polish in particular btw? please elaborate as much as you can  notworthy.gif

oh and i plan to get megs tire gel too once my random castrol tire dressing that came as a free gift when my mom changed her tires finishes XD
good to know it's performing well biggrin.gif
so does the gel version and the spray version have any differences? im guessing the gel would last longer...
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FYI, Meg's Endurance Tyre Gel is solvent-based - those damage rubbers over time, but I think your rubbers would go botak first before you see any adverse effects tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 28 2013, 10:31 PM)
that is a valid concern; however yes as you probably already know: my tires only lasted me a year, about 30-40k km, and its due for change next month with me driving very reservedly during rains as the treads are very close to TWI on all 4 tires sad.gif
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I'm on a cheapo RM10 water based dressing - given enough drying time and prep, it works - dare I say - as well as Meg's. But Meg's does retain its wet look for much longer.

I actually prefer my tyres with a slight matte look - I apply the dressing sparingly, and it's only after a few days when the dressing wears off a little which I get my intended effect. Keeps the car body as the center of attraction biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ May 28 2013, 10:47 PM)
oh my car body is just a box, don't need that much attention  rolleyes.gif
in fact the tires and rims, actually worth 2/3 of the car's market value LOL
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lol box.

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