already going on? sonax or the megs? or both? (i want both, lazy scrub wheels liao LOL!)

hmm if you dilute WB enough, it could be used as an APC too id reckon. im planning to use that for really stubborn stains on the car itself XD

Meg's WB. We are sharing the gallon down to probably a quart per person.
Actually, the WB is Alkaline based, it's caustic. And, yes, I would suggest APC is a better choice, if you want decently cheap and good, then give the OSREN Multi-Purpose Cleaner a good, very affordable even for the gallon.

ohhh.. is it Optimum Car Wash? not the ONR..

Look nice, how much is this product? Don't think can find at Kuching...

Someone do sell 3M clay here. But never use before ...

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2684606&hl=clay

Do you know how much is the 3M?

BTW, here local also got clay mitt.

Tak sampai hati to tell him that....especially the price. Should have shown it to him at the machine session....that place also using it.

The one available here is not like yours....more like this one: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2448036/all

Price? Well....errrr....can get it at around RM80, and I think it's almost twice the size of that one from Chemical Guys....

You are getting the mitt from the URL, and ask them to ship it over?

Osren (looks like I'm sounding more and more like their reps now ). Yup. I think it's a little bit on the aggressive side and can marr the paint a little (though can easily be removed with a light polish). But you can clay the whole car in as much time as it take to wash it.

thanks to sifu KrisMas i totally found the holy grail of wheel cleaner:

basically sonax wheel cleaner and/or megs WB combo (atm i'm using TW until i can get my hands on megs)

1) just the sonax alone, spray product (i spray a lot, basically almost finished KrisMas febreeze in just 2 front wheels, rear drums anyways)
2) leave on 30sec - 1min +/-
3) water down (slightly high pressure)

VOILA CLEAN NO NEED SCRUBBING LOL

i then proceed to spray some TW wheel cleaner (http://www.turtlewax.com/detail-F21%20Wheel%20Cleaner-44-117.aspx) just to further wash off sonax and whatever else that sonax loosened up (but isn't meant to clean, kinda complicated and it took a while for krismas to explain it to me haha) and yeah, i finally get what everyone meant by sonax wheel cleaner's smell LOL

anyways after i did a second water down for the TW wheel cleaner (obviously did this for the rear wheels as well haha), i did a minor test by poking in my finger to the rotors, did a few rubs on the surface and guess what...


i totally and absolutely no longer need to use the wheel brush anymore! effectively cut down AT LEAST 20-30 minutes on scrubbing all 4 wheels!

now... where can i get more of that product? need a gallon or something keeping stock
oh and what should i do with the wheel brush

Just use enough to make sure you spray it on every single inch of the areas you're cleaning

The retail price I think you already know la...around RM80 for 500ml. I'm afraid you won't be able to get the 5L one over here......yet

Oh....how about trying out one of those spray waxes on the rims. Might not last a week but it is very convenient and doesn't take much time. I used to apply sealants on the wheels (before all these spray waxes came out) but surrender also....just too much hasle and one round of APC wash and it's all gone. And none of the coatings (except for one) that I tested also can last more than a month.....

that's what i'm gonna do for my 2nd set of rims LOL! (ETA this june/early july)

bring rims home first, slowly prep it nice nice... clay, wax 3-4 layers ROFL

It's the same glass coating that I'm currently using on the rest of my car. The original (1st version) Opti Coat and CQuartz lasted me around a month maybe two, others (not many) are a dissapointment.
Note: I gauge the durability by how water bead/sheet so the coating might (or might not) still be there.

Except for the glass coat (trying it on one of my wheels only), this was quite some times ago (especially the Opti Coat). Now I just clean them and use one of my spray waxes when I'm not that lazy....

hmm i wonder what kinda long lasting coatings available out there that can withstand extremely high temperatures rofl...

i remembered patrick from dodo juice mentioned something for wheels, however it was extremely expensive so i kinda forgotten about it

http://www.autogeek.net/optimum-opti-glass-coating.html rock chip resistant... hmm.... costs half the price of my windscreen... though if including tint that's another story

rain isn't my concern since got rain-x, i want it to be rock chip resistant because my car's a rock magnet for some reason

Where do you guys get new Optimum product / refills?

eh bro since you seem very experienced with duragloss, have you tried their coating/sealant etc? looking for a product for my new set of rims before i fit them with tires around mid june or so

hmm what products have you tried? (btw asking you since your face kept appearing on their facebook liked thingy at their website ROFL!)

I thought we have local distributor? They are grey importer meh?