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post Aug 31 2013, 12:01 AM

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megs ultimate polish cant cure mark and scratch?
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post Aug 31 2013, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 30 2013, 04:44 PM)
if money no issue and just want something that is easy/works:
1) megs clay kit
2) megs ultimate polish (and ultimate compound if swirl marks severe or even got scratches)
3) megs ultimate liquid wax (or paste wax. feedback tend to side with paste wax for ease of buffing off if you don't intend to go for DualAction/rotary machines)

steps:
wash > clay > compound > polish > IPA wipedown (optional) > wax

then weekly/bi-weekly or so maintenance:
wash > megs ultimate quik spray wax

in between wash/bird droppings/tree sap/tar:
Ultimate quik detailer

optional:
- headlamp protector (beefed up sunscreen rofl)
- endurance tire gel
- megs wheel brighterner
- megs interior detailer/leather products
- megs all purpose cleaner (damn awesome for fabric seats/carpet/door jambs or sills or interiors or basically general all purpose (as the product name implies) cleaner
- megs/turtle wax glass cleaner? or just plain old ipa/natural white winegar, then after rinse off, apply rain-x (make sure original)  thumbup.gif

other brand to take note would be sonax, osren, dodojuice, autoglym etc
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Hi bro, let say I just done polishing and wax outsider (dunno use what product)

Can I use meguiars wax with it after a month?
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post Aug 31 2013, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 31 2013, 01:01 AM)
sure. recommend to clay prior to waxing though
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If without clay It will damage to our paint? B4 this I never clay my car and just done polish and wax once a year, now I plan to polish once a year by shop and wax myself


Is that ok to direct wax after polish ? As the Quick Detailer if skip ok or not?

1 more question bro, do I stil need to use Wash & wax shampoo after wax? Or the Gold class shampoo will done thr job?

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post Aug 31 2013, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 31 2013, 10:25 PM)
may or may not damage.

the thing is, if you still have contaminants on your surface, you will be waxing on top of them, and the wax won't last long smile.gif

QD is for maintenance pruposes. if you don't maintain properly, you can have the best polish/wax and you'd still get ruined by bird droppings/tree sap/road tar etc.

wash and wax shampoos are nice for regular maintenance and serve as a topping up on your existing wax so they last much longer smile.gif
you only need to do a full (clay) and wax every 2-3 months or so btw smile.gif
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Will the Clay Bar scratch our surface ? Since it will absorb dusty right?
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post Sep 2 2013, 12:25 AM

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Meguiars clay is far more exp than normal clay, is that worth to get it?

I go for pg clay bar with meguiars quick detailer, waiting to clay it on friday and see the result
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post Sep 5 2013, 12:40 AM

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Guys, I get my ultimate liquid wax , actually after apply it, need to let it dry , wait a few minutes only wipe it off?


Any tips on applying wax? I do clay first b4 wax
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post Sep 5 2013, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 5 2013, 08:33 AM)
1. You wash your car thoroughly....

2. Then you clay thoroughly...

3. And you suppose to do a wipe down thoroughly using IPA...

4. Then only you apply the wax.

But most people skip step #3, that's what I noticed. But if you want your wax to last, do all.

Maybe these basic steps can be pinned in 1st thread.
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Yup , i think that day u send me the full detailing car in PM should pin on the first pages , so newbie won't keep on repeating same question hehe


Actually i plan to do on this coming weekend by HAND


1. Wash Car

2. Clay whole car with Ultimate Quick Detailer

3. Ultimate Compound on scratch place only (the proper way to use Ultimate compound is , apply it thru small part area is better to take care , do not leave the Ultimate compound until dry , quickly wipe it off)

4. Ultimate Polish to polish compound area and other area (I actually not sure how to proper polishing , is that same way as WAX let it dry off? or same as Ultimate Compound do not let it dry and wipe it off immediately?)

5. i will skip the wipe down step and direct apply Wax (Proper way to wax is , After application, swipe with your finger. If the residue come off cleanly (no 'oily' streaks underneath - like wiping off dust/powder off) then it's ready to be wipe/buff off Credit to KrisMas)


So is that my step is done correctly?


A question here , if leave the wax too long on surface will make any damage or side effect? icon_question.gif
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post Sep 5 2013, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 5 2013, 12:24 PM)
Do lot leave the UC or UP to dry. Wipe off immediately after you've finished each passes of compounding/polishing.

By itself, no harm in leaving the wax for too long without wiping/buffing off. Like I said, if done properly, they're just access wax/sealant/carrier in the form of very fine powdery residue that are not bonded to the paint. Unless, you've applied it too thick, then it would be a little bit harder to wipe/buff off. When I was using Megs NXT/Megs Synthetic Sealants/Zaino/Duragloss/etc, sometime I would just leave it on for hours before wiping...no issues. I know of this one very prominant detailer who even left the sealant he applied (SmartWax) overnight before wiping.

The only risk would be if you're living around dusty area. Leave it for too long, particle of dust *might* settle on the surface and this *could* be picked up by the cloth you're using for wiping/biffing - swirls/scratches when wiping/buffing off.
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So Ultimate Compound can be reapply if we found the scratch stil havent reappear ? I heard that it's max re-apply twice only , dont use too much as it will damage to the paint , is that true?
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post Sep 5 2013, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Sep 2 2013, 11:21 PM)
I first bought my stick of PG Clay even before I got my car... I've not used any other brands but it does do as advertised.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 5 2013, 04:47 PM)
First of all, you'd need to understand what 'removing scratches' mean.

Technically, you're not removing the scratch. You're actually removing the clear coat so that the clear coat surrounding the scratch is level with the bottom of the scratch. Something like when you have scratches on wood/timber. You'd need to sand of the surrounding area so that it is level with the scratches. So scratches are actually shallow cut or cleat coat that's been scraped off. In order to 'remove' it, you need to scrape off more clear coat around it so that it's level with the bottom of the scratch.

How many time can you safely remove the scratches without damaging the clear coat would depends on how deep the scratch or cut that went INTO the clear coat. The more you 'remove' the scratches, the more clear coat you are removing and the thinner it would become until, to a point, you'd be removing the clear coat altogether and exposed the color coat underneath it. This is what we call a 'strike through' whereby the color coat is now exposed to the harsh weather without the clear coat protecting it from harm. Without the clear coat, the color coat stands no chance against our harsh weather before also getting damaged. A rough guide would be, if you can catch the scratch with your fingernail, the scratch is already dangerously deep to be safely 'removed' without risking a strike through.
(Move the tip of your fingernail AGAINST (not ALONG) the scratch and when your nail hit the scracth, see whether you can feel the scratch 'catching' your nail).

So, if the scratch is not too deep (doesn't catch your nail), you can use UC as many times as you like until you're satisfied with the result. But if the scratch is too deep (catches your nail), my suggestion would be just to remove enough clear coat so as to make the scratch less visible or let the pro have a look at it first before attempting to totally remove it.

Regards.
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Then if compound removed the clear coat, the polishing and wax cant help to protect the surface?

Just now I try the scratch with my fingernail, can feel a little of deep but not that deep actually, but I would like to try it first hehe
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post Sep 6 2013, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(colinwong89 @ Sep 6 2013, 01:28 AM)
If you aren't sure of how to polish a deep scratch like I am, you clean out the scratch and fill with clear nail polish (the name is contradictory, somewhat) and let it cure. This will keep moisture and dirt out of the scratch for several weeks, months even until you have time to rectify the problem. To remove the polish, just use a little bit of nail polish remover.
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QUOTE(arj @ Sep 6 2013, 06:07 AM)
Usually when you can feel the scratch, no matter how little, it is very very difficult to safely remove them, even with a machine. You best bet is to try and minimize the appearance of the scratch and then move on.
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Sep 6 2013, 08:26 AM)
Protection offered by the clear coat is far far more superior in every way (and thick) than any wax/sealant/coating available.

There is no harm (and not to mention fun also....errr...at least to me la) in trying, as long as you know what you're doing and understand the risks involved.
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i just get the Compound and Polishing Meguiars ultimate's line , i already read the way how to do it properly in the Meguiars Official Forum , they say keep on apply compound with a little of force , after this wipe it off , repeating until the scratch look better , at least it can improve the scratch.

Anyway , what scratch that can't feel with our fingernail ?

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post Sep 6 2013, 09:41 PM

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Today i just wash my car with Meguiars Ultimate Wash & Wax , did any of u face windshield haze when switch on wiper ?? Because i do use Wash & Wax on the windshield and all the window , i wonder why it will haze when i on wipe @@"
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post Sep 8 2013, 04:50 PM

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Guys , actually do u think Nanocoating vs Wax which more worth?

I mean when there is nanocoating , why stil do we wax our car?

Wan ur guys opinion
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post Sep 9 2013, 01:04 AM

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Hi guys , how many of u actually own the Ez water cannon jet? Is that make different in pressure?
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post Sep 9 2013, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 9 2013, 01:47 AM)
just buy a proper pressure washer
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Sorry ,I cant have a electric and water in the same time bro, the Ez really that bad? At least the water pressure is more than enough then is ok le

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post Sep 9 2013, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 9 2013, 08:22 AM)
Suggest you to look closely before buying, demo if possible.

Because we don't think by just having a nozzle, you can get such pressurized water lor...

Anyway, why can't you have water and electricity at the same time?

Or maybe this would be better : http://static.ph.groupon-content.net/81/88/1349079098881.jpg
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Because my pipe is at outside and I don have wall electric that near to my pipe there

That water pressure is wireless?

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post Sep 9 2013, 02:10 PM

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EZ cannon water jet really not worth to get? =.=

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QUOTE(arj @ Sep 9 2013, 06:43 PM)
I have one and the pressure is just like a normal garden hose sprayer attachment. Decent enough for normal car washing.
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i dont expect to be like those RM300~400 powerjet , but more than enough to wash a car more easy haha , i already place order , would be get it next week biggrin.gif , u know what , the garden hose sprayer u need to keep on press it , with EZ u just trigger it and let it do the job.
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QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 10 2013, 07:04 AM)
I thought you wanted something of a pressure washer. You only need a nozzle is it?

If it is not because of the soap chamber, I would say it is very expensive. I bought one from normal hardware shop without the soap chamber for RM10.00. Lasted 2 years until it cracks after it dropped onto the floor.
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But those Spray got like the EZ water jet can be Trigger on ? As i know alot of Garden spray u need to press and hold it , hand very pain after long term

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QUOTE(flowerhorn @ Sep 10 2013, 09:40 AM)
Bro, garden hose not as bulky. IMO the ez jet is just a gimmic. But do let us know the quality and performance once u started using it ya.
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garden spray is less bulky , but u can be solve by this connector if u use EZ water jet, only attach when u wan to wash car , deattach when u wan keep ur hose.

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 10 2013, 05:41 PM)
i got these prior to the PW:
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(bought the set which comes in a whole buncha connectors/long awesome spiral hose that's like phone cords, pretty compact stuff while able to extend/stretch very long)
http://www.claber.com/en/products/irrigati...?pn=2&fm=0&sz=3

mom was b****ing cuz it was expensive as hell however over time, she likes using it for her gardening tongue.gif
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how much did u bought it?

QUOTE(MyWifeCar @ Sep 10 2013, 06:01 PM)
Mine is almost something similar as the picture, but bigger. Also got 8 types of different water output.

And YES, all nozzles will come with a stopper to let the water continuing flowing. smile.gif
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because i looking at giant , those nozzles can't be stop and have to press it hard , that why i consider EZ water jet haha , if i break the EZ , will get this next time , where do u get this thing anyway?
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Sep 10 2013, 07:21 PM)
200-400? can't remember lol...

bought at some DIY/hardware store from centrepoint 1Utama
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SO expensive blink.gif , i rather get spray gun for wash car haha

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