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LOREAL
post Mar 1 2010, 07:42 AM

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Hi guys...i jus finnish my SPM last year !!!!

and i'm new to this forum and i have a question in mind to ask u guys...


if i study Diploma in Aeronautical Engineering in one of Singapore's college...
can i still be LAME rather than if i study in NILAI/MIAT......


Could any one help me ??? cry.gif

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post Mar 18 2010, 03:08 AM

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QUOTE(LOREAL @ Mar 1 2010, 07:42 AM)
Hi guys...i jus finnish my SPM last year !!!!

and i'm new to this forum and i have a question in mind to ask u guys...
if i study Diploma in Aeronautical Engineering in one of Singapore's college...
can i still be LAME rather than if i study in NILAI/MIAT......
Could any one help me ??? cry.gif
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it actually depends on the singapore college management on how to bring up their students.....
the most important part in order to become a LAME, no matter where u study also is the license cat.
When u go inside the industry no 1 wanna look at ur marks that u get for ur diploma or ur degree but rather they all will ask u "WHAT WHAT license u got haa.."
then wat's the point studying diploma wasting 3 years doing teori..
if u have got ur 1st license ur registered under world recognition by CAA that's for EASA, but for BCAR section L which is malaysia u need to undergo another test.....
which is air legislation... or law of the country.... this BCAR conversion license is done in DCA too...
as for malaysia...

*so if u ask me like nilai/miat or even singapore all this colleges are just like driving school... u learn then u get ur driving license issued by JPJ, here JPJ is like CAA issuing license for qualified engineers.. so better think twice.... b4 u step ur foot in a ditch..... once ur down there is no way turning back.. icon_question.gif

TOP 6 REQUIREMENTS FOR EASA PART-66... thumbup.gif

* EASA LAME LAE-Should be 21 years of age. flex.gif
* ONCE U FAILED THE PAPER, U CANNOT RE-SIT THE PAPER BACK FOR ATLEAST 90 DAYS. shakehead.gif
* EXAMS CAN BE CONDUCTED 1st, THEN ONLY WORK EXPERIENCE COMES IN. rclxub.gif
* ONCE U HAVE DONE A EXAM U ARE REGISTERED UNDER THE UK CAA, BUT THIS RECORD WILL BE FLUSHED OFF
EVERY 5 YEARS, IN OTHER WORDS U MUST COMPLETE ALL THE MODULES WITHIN 5 YEARS TIME PERIOD FROM
THE DATE U STARTED THE 1st EXAM. sweat.gif
* DRESSCODING SHOULD BE IN FORMAL. cool2.gif
* WHEN U ARE GETTING WORK EXPERIENCE ITS NOT THE COLLEGE PRACTICAL BUT U MUST BE EMPLOYED BY A
AVIATION INDUSTRY.. PAY SYSTEM MUST RUN.... mark my word haa.... u must be employed, no matter what in order to get the 1st LAME
license.... icon_idea.gif

--so the bottom line here i would say ur wasting time on 3 years for ur dip in AA which ur gonna do and then only u go nna find for work experince which is another 3 years... think properlly ur wasting 6 years just for the 1 st license.... hmm.gif

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post May 25 2010, 05:25 PM

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i asked my fren who is now working with MAS about engineering degree holder (mechanical or aerospace/aeronautical) who wants to become maintenance engineer with MAS

he told me that they can join, but they will have to go study/train for 5 years before they can become one. Is this true ? If it's true, do u get paid while ur studying/training ?
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post Jul 8 2010, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(ewin @ Feb 5 2007, 04:49 PM)
LOL...VERY TRUE
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except for the misai and earn something with drilling..wtf?! metc's nonsense..kah kah kah
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post Jul 24 2010, 04:57 AM

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QUOTE(munky @ May 25 2010, 05:25 PM)
i asked my fren who is now working with MAS about engineering degree holder (mechanical or aerospace/aeronautical) who wants to become maintenance engineer with MAS

he told me that they can join, but they will have to go study/train for 5 years before they can become one. Is this true ? If it's true, do u get paid while ur studying/training ?
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as far as i'm corncern mate... it is very true despite any field u were in, you have to qualify the CAA requirements or EASA requirements but if ur an aviation degree holder, you should refer to section D cat. B1 and B2 licensing.

you don't get what a license holder gets when ur employed u will get allowance, your job will be more to probationary aircraft engineer... something like junior tech....

always remember fixing an aircraft doesn't need paperworks but u need experience....

so even having PHD in aviation industry without a license u can't go far .... u will just sit in office just like the aircrash investigators..... do u think their pay is quite high.....trust me their not even 1/3 the pay of fully licensed engineers pay....

i got my frend working in MAS he's like a mentor for me lar.... he has all the license, he's on the QA department, his age now almost reaching 50.... and u know what was his pay quite some time ago, i saw his payslip it stated there after deduction and blah blah blah....RM49,050.00 per month.

so the conclusion here is :

part 145 organization u require 3 years experienced.
part 147 organization u require 2 years experinced.
no jar organization u need 5 years in any aircraft field provided that u have to submit ur logbook.

all the above information can be true or might not be true. sorry if i had any mislanguage on pointing the sentences.
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post Aug 9 2010, 06:37 PM

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can anyone tell me which school is the best aircraft maintenance school in malaysia?
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post Aug 12 2010, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(git0926 @ Aug 9 2010, 06:37 PM)
can anyone tell me which school is the best aircraft maintenance school in malaysia?
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Hmm..its hard to tell actually because for me all is same. You just have to pass your exam with flying color and get a good grade/CGPA. There's a lot of choice in Malaysia. Miat, Tafe, Poli etc..
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post Sep 8 2010, 11:32 AM

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HYE..

IM REALLY INTERESTED TO APPLY TO METC. BUT... IM HOW DO I GET MAS TO SPONSOR??
AND WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS?
CAN SOMEONE PLS TELL ME?
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post Sep 12 2010, 03:15 AM

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i got diploma in mechanical engineering..i want to have a LAE...can anyone tell me what to do to achieve that?
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post Sep 12 2010, 09:09 AM

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Haha..After reading all the post, i dont think that i can enter this field anymore..i have a degree in electrical power engineering, and getting married soon...Its too late for me...arghh..Btw i am 26 and have 2 years ++ experience...Also in aviation i guess...Doing the radar thingy at airport..

Hurm...do u guys have any advise?? Should i pursue this license?? How am i going to support my wife after diz...haha cry.gif

Btw, do any of u guys know is there any part time class for taking the license??

Thanks a lot guys.. brows.gif


Added on September 12, 2010, 9:23 am
QUOTE(Joann_Raj @ Feb 9 2010, 03:33 AM)
hi there, i would like to ask some of u guys opinion on age wise to become a LAME... coz currently i'm 25 this year and i'm finishing my course in june....my course major in turbine, piston, and avionics..... i took up aircraft engineering course when i was 22... got long story behind tat... coz u might ask why i did not enrolled after my SPM, it was due to personal family problems... tat's why i delayed...so the question is am i to late to qualify as an aircraft engineer.... and further more does the industry take in fresh graduates like me at the age of 25... and if yes where am i positioned.... but currently i'm doin EASA too as part time dun rather waste time..... i've gone through only human factors so far..... it makes me look that i couldn't go far coz of age wise.... pls help me to drop in ur opinion, advise or suggestion what should i do from here.... thank you,
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Hye bro joan_raj..

U said that u take part time in EASA..mind if i ask where?? Kind of interested biggrin.gif ..

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post Sep 12 2010, 09:58 PM

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Ok.. Here's my story. I'm a mechanical engineer with 2years experience in aircond sales and 1 year at construction site working as M&E engineer. Now i feel that i have the interest in joining aviation industry. Reading from the thread, i found out technical service engineer suits me the best ( i can liaise with manufacturer or supplier easily ) as i don't have to start all over agian. So wat is the pay for technical service engineer? isit as good as LAME?? If i were to earn big buck from this industry? How should i start? Do i really have to start all over again?

p/s : I am 25 this year and earning around 3.8k per month. Is moving into aviation industry a good move?

Don't ask me why i wana move kinda stuff, i'm fine with my current job, but wish to try out something new while i still have the time. nod.gif
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post Sep 21 2010, 07:58 PM

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Can anyone help me. Wanted to know that Can i take B1 and B2 at a same time or i need to complete either one first? if i complete all B1 module i need to retake what module to get a B2 and vice versa?

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post Sep 28 2010, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(pa'li @ Sep 12 2010, 03:15 AM)
i got diploma in mechanical engineering..i want to have a LAE...can anyone tell me what to do to achieve that?
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since u're not from an approved training organization, u must collect 4 years of experience working in aviation first as a junior tech or technician.. and then u can apply for your license... that's the requirement...


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QUOTE(lonelyboyboy @ Sep 12 2010, 09:58 PM)
Ok.. Here's my story. I'm a mechanical engineer with 2years experience in aircond sales and 1 year at construction site working as M&E engineer. Now i feel that i have the interest in joining aviation industry. Reading from the thread, i found out technical service engineer suits me the best ( i can liaise with manufacturer or supplier easily ) as i don't have to start all over agian. So wat is the pay for technical service engineer? isit as good as LAME?? If i were to earn big buck from this industry? How should i start? Do i really have to start all over again?

p/s : I am 25 this year and earning around 3.8k per month. Is moving into aviation industry a good move?

Don't ask me why i wana move kinda stuff, i'm fine with my current job, but wish to try out something new while i still have the time. nod.gif
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no.. technical service engineer are usually highly experienced LAE... r u an LAE??

3.8k is more than what a junior technician get's in MAS..

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post Oct 14 2010, 03:34 PM

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nak tanya sikit. Misal kata :

1) Jikalau seseorang tu sudah memperolehi Bachelor Of Aircraft Engineering Technology (BAET) atau Bachelor Of Aviation Management, adakah individu tersebut akan terus menjadi manager atau perlu menduduki peperiksaan untuk memperoleh LWTR sebelum menjadi manager?

2) Dan jik...alau individu tersebut mempunyai BAET adakah dia akan menjadi manager setelah dia mempunyai LAE atau SEKADAR KETUA ENGINEER dikalangan engineer-engineer yang lain?

3) Bayaran terhadap Aircraft Maintenance Engineer atau Manager yang lebih lumayan?

harap dapat membantu, terima kasih (:
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post Oct 15 2010, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(jeng jeng jeng @ Oct 14 2010, 03:34 PM)
nak tanya sikit. Misal kata :

1) Jikalau seseorang tu sudah memperolehi Bachelor Of Aircraft Engineering Technology (BAET) atau Bachelor Of Aviation Management, adakah individu tersebut akan terus menjadi manager atau perlu menduduki peperiksaan untuk memperoleh LWTR sebelum menjadi manager?

2) Dan jik...alau individu tersebut mempunyai BAET adakah dia akan menjadi manager setelah dia mempunyai LAE atau SEKADAR KETUA ENGINEER dikalangan engineer-engineer yang lain?

3) Bayaran terhadap Aircraft Maintenance Engineer atau Manager yang lebih lumayan?

harap dapat membantu, terima kasih (:
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jeng jeng jeng, better cakap dalam english
sebab aviation ni semua dalam english
apa2 pon pelik betul soalan
kalau nak banding gaji mestila manager lagi bayak
tapi lae kerja lagi seronok
yang lain x geti nak jawab
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Thanks a lot everyone, sorry if i was using BM previously, love to use proper English / National language rather than mixing it up or in another term, 'rojak-ing' it, however does anyone knows the answer on my second question? Thanks a lot! biggrin.gif

Last but not least, let's say if someone is currently an Aircraft Maintainenance engineer, can he later be promoted, as a manager?

This post has been edited by jeng jeng jeng: Oct 17 2010, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE(jeng jeng jeng @ Oct 17 2010, 01:29 AM)
Thanks a lot everyone, sorry if i was using BM previously, love to use proper English / National language rather than mixing it up or in another term, 'rojak-ing' it, however does anyone knows the answer on my second question? Thanks a lot!  biggrin.gif

Last but not least, let's say if someone is currently an Aircraft Maintainenance engineer, can he later be promoted, as a manager?
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yes, why not
in fact in mas there is someone who started working there as a cleaner/maintenance assistant (not sure what was the position really is) but slowly climb up and now he is one of the superitendant/manager
in fact a lot of engineering managers started from lae, IMHO they need to have hands on experience on aircraft to manage the company better
if u want to become manager faster, go to those small GA company, since there is not much employee and less competition biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(azameel @ Oct 17 2010, 03:04 AM)
yes, why not
in fact in mas there is someone who started working there as a cleaner/maintenance assistant (not sure what was the position really is) but slowly climb up and now he is one of the superitendant/manager
in fact a lot of engineering managers started from lae, IMHO they need to have hands on experience on aircraft to manage the company better
if u want to become manager faster, go to those small GA company, since there is not much employee and less competition  biggrin.gif
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Thanks azameel and e7471, rclxms.gif

Thanks to everyone else too cause i just finished reading all the 80 pages and because all of you, now i have increased valuable and 'gold' inputs in this field. And yes, I've acknowledged from the earlier pages, about just being a tech before a person can sit for an exam to obtain LWTR from DCA, despite whatever academic qualification he/she has (SPM/Diploma/Degree/PHD etc).My question is ;

*Why do a person wants to take 'Bachelor' of Aircraft Engineering Technology (BAET) if in the end he will still be a tech just like other dip graduates before becoming an LAE?

*Or do BAET graduates do something else besides maintenance engineering when he/she starts working?

*Sorry if this one sounds really noob but,between Technician and Mechanic in AVIATION, which one is on the upper level? Do Diploma in Aircraft Maintenance Engineering is required to be a mechanic or just SPM? And can a mechanic be an LAE later one , by going through step by step? blush.gif



P/S : Fuhhhhh, 80 pages are a lotttttt dudes i tell you!! sweat.gif
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Hi guys...long time since the last time i visited this thread or actually sent a post here...Finally, i sat for DCA's LWTR written exam last thursday...awaiting for result, maybe in 2 months time...
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QUOTE(jeng jeng jeng @ Oct 18 2010, 08:11 AM)
Thanks azameel and e7471, rclxms.gif

Thanks to everyone else too cause i just finished reading all the 80 pages and because all of you, now i have increased valuable and 'gold' inputs in this field. And yes, I've acknowledged from the earlier pages, about just being a tech before a person can sit for an exam to obtain LWTR from DCA, despite whatever academic qualification he/she has (SPM/Diploma/Degree/PHD etc).My question is ;

*Why do a person wants to take 'Bachelor' of Aircraft Engineering Technology (BAET) if in the end he will still be a tech just like other dip graduates before becoming an LAE?

*Or do BAET graduates do something else besides maintenance engineering when he/she starts working?

*Sorry if this one sounds really noob but,between Technician and Mechanic in AVIATION, which one is on the upper level? Do Diploma in Aircraft Maintenance Engineering is required to be a mechanic or just SPM? And can a mechanic be an LAE later one , by going through step by step? blush.gif
P/S : Fuhhhhh, 80 pages are a lotttttt dudes i tell you!! sweat.gif
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hii jeng jeng jeng.

for ur info,

BAET is highers ranking level. so its should not be a problem to find a jobs, if u have (BAET) u can work at higher level like in management, forgive me if i'm wrong, for BAET u can be as Operation manager in airlines.
but if you still insist. the requirement to be LAE is above 21, 3-5 years experience in life aircraft and complete all the exam and oral test in DCA.

1. mechanic ( trainee/ half skill worker)
2. technician (skill worker)
3. LWTR ( Licence without type rating)
4. Licence aircraft engineer (with type rating)

yes mechanic can become LAE with hard work and never give up. thumbup.gif



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